Survivors, a Matter of Mindset: Reminder of ZetaTalk, from BBS Archives

For my understanding I made a chart from "Survivors, a Matter of Mindset" in BBS Archives.

Thank you very much, Nancy, for the excellent lecture!

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The Blog Radio lecture series on Nancy's The Connection radio show began Aug 1, 2005. The sessions were designed as a lecture series, a guided tour through the ZetaTalk and Troubled Times material. Archives are provided by the Blog Radio site, and linked directly by session below. Transcripts of the sessions are also available, below as scripts, in almost all cases. The 80 sessions compiled through the end of 2006 are also offered by Nancy on a twinset CD.

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SURVIVORS, A MATTER OF MINDSET : Aug 31, 2005 [Script]

http://www.zetatalk.com/index/what0831.htm

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ZetaTalk: Machine Age, written on Apr 15, 1999.

http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p105.htm

Consider what is necessary to run the average manufacturing plant, which runs heavy machinery. … It's for these reasons that industry will not run, but will go idle. There are cities discovered in Central American and in China, found under the jungles or under the shifting sands, with no explanation for where the inhabitants went. These were great cities with grand steps. … These are remnants of pole shifts, where great civilizations have fallen in the past. The survivors wander, in search of a better life. They are often confused, as they don't know what has hit them. They are sure this is a local event and they are off to find out where the sun is shining and the grain is growing. They all wander. So your industries will be idle, for these reasons.

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ZetaTalk: Rescue Expectations, written Feb 15, 2001

http://www.zetatalk.com/transfor/t101.htm

As the cataclysms draw near, those who have taken the ZetaTalk message about the coming pole shift seriously will make their plans. For many, when these plans fall short of their expectations for a standard of living, or comfort, or security - the gap is filled in with their rescue expectations. … As concern that the ZetaTalk message might be true, to distress when the predictions seem to be occurring in the time frame predicted, to anxiety that their personal plans will not meet their expectations, rescue expectations, a form of denial, rise up. What are these expectations, and how likely is rescue going into or during the pole shift, or shortly after in the Aftertime?

The Lift … Government Operations … Space Brothers … Right Neighbors …

So what is an anxious human to do? Since the soul lives on, while the human body dies, the spiritual aspects of survival and life during troubling times is more important than any physical comfort. … Put aside desperation and casting about for rescue, and think of how you can help others. This is your ticket to better times!

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ZetaTalk: Survivors, written prior to July 15, 1995

http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p03.htm

The cataclysms will come quickly, and the great majority of deaths will be so instantaneous that there will be no time for anxiety. Concern should be for the survivors, who will be injured, in shock, hungry, and looking in desperation for their loved ones. … The grief that will result from the cataclysms will be no greater for any given human than the grief their normal life would sustain. … What will be different is that the anticipated assistance from wealthy countries or one's own government will not be available. … The cataclysms offer an opportunity, as does life in general, to be of service. These are times of great opportunity, to be greatly of service. These are times when one can grow, and discover strength within oneself previously unknown.

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ZetaTalk: Starvation, written Dec, 2002

http://www.zetatalk.com/xtime/x03.htm

… What will this modern man find he has to EAT, after the shift, when the super markets are looted and no new distributions on the way? We will address this by population type, as the results vary: Those in the cities, … Those in the suburbs, … Those in the country, … Coastal survivors …

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ZetaTalk: Death Rate, written Dec 14, 2002

http://www.zetatalk.com/xtime/x24.htm

The 90% die-off that we have predicted, as we have stated, will not occur simply because of the shift. Most will die because of depression, failure to thrive, sitting down with a slight injury and not eating or drinking, as occurs after all calamities. … In short, the highest ratio of survivors will be in rural areas where there is a low ratio of human survivor to land. …

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ZetaTalk: Starvation, written Nov 25, 2003

http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta49.htm

… Starvation is rampant around the world, in many countries indigenous, so it is only those in affluent environments who wonder such things. Those already starving know how these matters are settled. But the reaction to starvation differs immensely, based on spiritual orientation. Those in the Service-to-Self horde, jerk food from the weak and either sell it for whatever price the desperate market will bear or add it to their stores even if their stores are rotting for want of use. Those who have not decided their spiritual orientation dither between sharing a mouthful now and then with a friend or piteous soul, stuffing what they can hide in their pockets when around bullies, and otherwise wailing about the situation loudly expecting to be rescued. Those strongly in the Service-to-Others work more by plan, having sorted this out well ahead of time in previous lifetimes. … Given the situation where the culture is not highly Service-to-Other, but mixed, how then would a Service-to-Other leader proceed? …

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ZetaTalk: Great Equalizer, written on Nov 15, 1995

http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p56.htm

Tumultuous times like the coming cataclysms are great equalizers. … Survival is to a great extent based on the ability to adapt, and in this way those on the bottom today have an advantage over those on the top. The coming pole shift will be a great equalizer.

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ZetaTalk: Preexisting Health, written Mar 15, 2003

http://www.zetatalk.com/xtime/x35.htm

The shift will present many with preexisting health problems with challenges. At the same time, many will find their health improved, and be surprised by this. …

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ZetaTalk: What the Heart Seeks, written Jan 12, 2004

http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta59.htm

Forced separation will be one of the major reasons for mental breakdown, during the days of anguish leading up to the shift and in the weeks and months following. … In human cultures, expulsion from the group is considered a punishment known to bring pain. Exile. Excommunication. Divorce. Termination. These have impacts beyond the financial and convenient, the primary being emotional pain. … Beyond the worry for the other, is the anguish of separation, a matter not easily put to rest and properly grieved over as certainty is not at hand. Funerals are for the living, allowing them to come to terms with the death, the certain death, of a loved one, else the heart is trapped, suspended. What will occur in such instances? … Shelter and food are more easily gained than the connection, which when lost takes a period of grieving before substitutes are accepted, emotionally. Thus depression will be rampant, the sense of loss aggravated, the anguish unresolved. We have often stated that those heavily into the Service-to-Other orientation will be assisted, most often sight unseen, by guides in the Aftertime. This will include assistance in reuniting separated loved ones, if only via visits as contactees on space ships, for reassurance or closure, but often also as guided migration, to help the heart find what it seeks.

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ZetaTalk: Shock, written Dec, 2002

http://www.zetatalk.com/xtime/x02.htm

Shock, from a situation unexpected, exists in human society today. … Nothing new, in human society. The pole shift will bring about such shock, in great numbers, but with a difference. none will be spared, and all will be facing the same situation. … The recovery from shock takes two routes, depending upon the nature and resolve of the person affected, and this cannot be changed by others as it is a personal decision. … Those who have dependents, children or the injured or oldsters, but remain in shock and refuse to adjust or take action, should have their dependents removed from them. Let the person who insists on remaining in shock sit there, in shock, until death if this is their decision. Put your energies into the living, those who have chosen life, instead.

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ZetaTalk: Service-to-Others, written by Jul 15, 1995

http://www.zetatalk.com/awaken/a04.htm

Regarding what the future Service-to-Others Earth may appear to be, this will not be something strange. There are many groups on Earth already who operate in the Service-to-Others orientation. They share their resources, address the problems of each as though it were a problem for the many, sacrifice their own comfort for the better comfort of the many, and do not impede the growth or awakening to knowledge of each other. In the Earth of the future, these qualities will seem to increase in people, and groups will find less and less need for artificial controls on their behavior, and more and more allowance for trust among each other. There are no human societies, however, that exemplify the 4th Density spiritual Service-to-Others community. Human societies are, in the main, populated by the undecided. This colors the social structure, inevitably. … Thus, even in the average family, the Service-to-Others 4th Density spiritual existence cannot proceed. Thus, other than read what we have described as our existence, we cannot point to a human culture, a human philosophy, as a case in point.

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ZetaTalk: Prison Gangs, written Mar 15, 2002

http://www.zetatalk.com/transfor/t121.htm

… During the shift, prisons will spill out and prisoners escape. These will as expected become the primary Service-to-Self gangs in operation after the shift. … After the shift, supplies will run out quickly, and dead people offer no satisfaction to these marauders. They will quickly, as we have stated earlier, find themselves without the means to keep warm until the morning, and without anything but each other to eat. Weakened, and decimated by infighting, they will succumb to disease and defense by Service-to-Other communities who will give in return the aggression they sense in their attackers. …

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ZetaTalk: Aftertime Raids, written by Jul 15, 1995

http://www.zetatalk.com/transfor/t04.htm

Regarding attacks on Service-to-Other groups by Service-to-Self groups in the Aftertime. … We have stated that the Service-to-Self humans will die out on Earth, and this is in part because they do not nurture their young, but primarily because those prone to this orientation will not reincarnate here. … But what about the interim, when various humans of mixed orientation or distinct Service-to-Self orientation look to the Service-to-Other communities and consider a raid. There will be assistance in these matters, from ourselves and others. Primarily this assistance will be in the form of blockage, where the Service-to-Self humans either cannot find the communities, cannot see them, or are distracted in some way. … The best defense is a well chosen location. It is also advisable to be selective on who is allowed into the community. …

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ZetaTalk: Survivor Allegiance, written Sep 2, 2003

http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta27.htm

Decisions will have to be made. In an ideal situation everyone is good hearted, everyone is reasonable, they all share. This is the optimal situation. But in reality, life will not be that dissimilar from today, when decisions are made. … In this matter, think more of those you are protecting, the little children in the group, those who roll up their sleeves and are willing to do whatever is required. They deserve equal time, so to speak, and consideration with this person who is threatening the group. In some cases, you will have to move, you will have to pick up and leave, even in the dead of night, with your dependents, to get away from a situation that is overwhelmingly bad. Think less of your sense of responsibility to those who are trouble makers, or thinking of themselves and trying to get their larger share, or dictate to or dominate the group. Think less of your obligation to them and more of your obligation to those who deserve your time and attention in these matters. This would be our advice on those ethical dilemmas.

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ZetaTalk: Spontaneous Groups, written Dec 6, 2003

http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta53.htm

Distraught and frustrated at trying to convince family and friends that preparations for what seems to be surely upon mankind must be made, many wonder how they can join with others to enhance their survival possibilities when no one will listen. … Will everyone sincerely trying to join with others to form communities find they are standing alone, waving a flag, in the last days? … Existing Communities … Planned Communities … Spontaneous Communities …

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ZetaTalk: Government Collapse, written prior to July 15, 1995

http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p07.htm

… We are not describing a world where the established government is likely to continue as it was. We are describing a world where new forms of governing will emerge. The type will depend on the nature of the group of people. As we have detailed, there will be an increasing separation of Service-to-Other from Service-to-Self. Those groups oriented to Service-to-Other will not require the same controls that are required today. Rather than the problem of citizens stealing from each other, held in check only by the enforcement of law, these new communities will share. Consideration will be the rule, rather than the rule of law. … Any attempt to continue federal or state level government will in all likelihood be short lived. On the local level, there may be some continuance, according to the competence of the local government. Leadership will have to be earned.

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ZetaTalk: Government, written during the October 19, 2002

http://www.zetatalk.com/transfor/t142.htm

The Aftertime will find most of mankind in a dearth of government directives. … In these situations, leadership arises from the needy, natural leaders emerging. Often they are children, to whom most of life is startling and strange, the unfamiliar presented almost daily. To the child, this is more an adventure, an opportunity to act without constant parental admonitions. They will make suggestions, and be allowed to proceed, and often lead their dazed and depressed parents and elders about like rag dolls. Beyond the children, who will be inventive and energetic in the main, women will assume command by doing daily chores. … In like manner, after the shift, women will wash and clean, gather and cook a meal, and thus be looked upon as someone who can direct activities. When the depression clears, and survivors begin looking about them, determining if they should seek out a government rep or make a report, perhaps seek help from their government, a different conclusion will arise. Each initiating, others observing and offering to help, and sharing, has taken place. This is the Service-to-Other society of your future, and once established by survivor groups, should not be supplanted by ego driven directive by the power hungry. Tell them to sit back down and fall silent, as you did so much better before they found their tongue.

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ZetaTalk: Barter System, written Dec 15, 2001

http://www.zetatalk.com/transfor/t109.htm

We predict that long before the shift, a barter system will be replacing the current paper money system. … The common man will find they are pleased with themselves if they have had the foresight to secure goods of value, such as seeds or tools or dried food. … The value of items that can increase worth, such as a needle and thread which can repair clothing otherwise worthless, or a shovel that can create a garden otherwise a weed patch, will balloon. … We advise the common man, as we have in the past, to relieve themselves of stock and jewels and paper money that will fall in value, perhaps suddenly and without warning. Better to stock up on things that will have value, candles and matches, school books and a guitar, than what the rich treasure. In that one's skill sets can be considered a bartering item, one should examine their own skill set by the following exam. … What we are telling you is that you should mentally put yourself in this setting, and you will have no difficulty determining what is useless or most worthwhile, in a skill set. …

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* Blogs of "a chart from ZetaTalk" in the Ning

1) The Council of Worlds; from ZetaTalk

2) Sociological Changes; from ZetaTalk

3) The Year Before The Shift; from ZetaTalk

4) Undergoing a subtle Transformation; from ZetaTalk

5) Characteristics - Separation by Orientation; from ZetaTalk

6) Sorted Out; from ZetaTalk

7) Small Groups; from ZetaTalk

8) Why live? - Pole Shift; Aftertime; from ZetaTalk

9) You Can Relieve the Pain of Others - Death Wish; from ZetaTalk

10) Why is the cover-up loosening? - Cover-up; from ZetaTalk

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Comment by Kojima on September 19, 2022 at 1:15pm: * ZetaTalk for Pole shift fear

ZetaTalk Chat Q&A for July 17, 2010

https://www.zetatalk.com/ning/17jy2010.htm

http://www.zetatalk12.com/ning/17jy2010.htm

What do the Zetas think about the consequences of the extreme fear and sense of complete hopelessness, mankind will experience during the last weeks before PS, a situation that could quickly move millions of souls to STS. Benign Aliens have been very careful so far in this regard, and all visitations are recorded only in the subconscious for this reason. It is known that fear and hopelessness are the big weapons of STS crowds...

Mankind is faced daily with situations that cause fear, and to the extent of that which the pole shift will generate. Tornadoes devastate towns, cancer strikes a wage earner in the prime of life, children are abducted and never seen again - that type of thing. What is different during the pole shift is that those accustomed to thinking that their governments will rescue them will find this is not the case, that they are on their own to work things out with their neighbors. This of course goes on today for the many who are tossed out of their homes, lose their jobs, or are caught in great floods or droughts. Is their fear level raised, their sense of hopelessness overwhelming? This is the lot of man, and as we have pointed out in past ZetaTalk on this issue, is relative to one's expectations. For a family in India, barely holding on and able to feed itself, to be devastated by drought puts them into starvation. Most often they accept this with a fatalistic perception that this is man's lot in life. Yet a wealthy socialite in New York City, finding that her monthly stipend from an ex-husband is going to be reduced, may be driven to suicide. The thought of not being able to afford her current lifestyle, being able to purchase expensive clothes and travel abroad, is too much for her. Beyond the fact that the pole shift will only bring a greater degree of disaster, and to all, is the reaction of individual souls to the disasters. Those that are highly Service-to-Other in nature do not consider this a source of fear and hopelessness but rather an incentive to action, with helping others gratifying. In fact, this is an opportunity for action, where before this might have been considered interfering in other's lives. For those who think only of themselves, a self focus, the pole shift of course would increase a sense of hopelessness and potentially increase fear, but this is true of their life in general. Every gray hair, every social setback is likewise a disaster for these people. It's thus all relative, and in keeping with life in general.

Comment by Kojima on September 19, 2022 at 10:44am: * ZetaTalk for Spiritual growth

ZetaTalk Chat Q&A for July 24, 2010

https://www.zetatalk.com/ning/24jy2010.htm

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From 2003 ZT: (Many Incarnations) "Nancy is an example of someone who quickly made her orientation decision, having done so in a little more than 1,200 lifetimes, but there are others who require 50,000 or more incarnations to firmly decide. Thus, most reincarnating entities on Earth have been through repeated pole shifts, or horrors of natural disasters equivalent, so this experience is not different and certainly not new." If the STO - STS nature is the result of the decisions and actions taken during thousands past lives, the logical conclusion is that a single lifetime (1 out of 50.000) even if a PS is experienced, for most of mankind has a very limited relevance for the soul orientation. Unless a soul is on the verge of making the final decision (How many souls are now in this delicate position?) Is it so?

You are correct that experiencing a pole shift, in and of itself, is insignificant in the development of a young soul or in the spiritual orientation decision. Each lifetime presents a young soul with literally millions of decisions, opportunities to take action either to help another or to enhance the self. Violent accidents or tragic deaths are also prevalent, during each life. The young soul may not encounter violence to the self, but witness this, or be affected by this when it occurs. Most death is relatively peaceful, not due to an accident but rather old age or an infection or brain injury that results in a coma so life slips away quietly. But over many lifetimes, a young soul will have experienced accidental death or injury to the self. Nature on the rampage is also not rare, but occurs regularly in each life. In that incarnations vary between the sexes and around the globe, every climate and culture would have been experienced, so that floods and droughts, cold and blistering heat, earthquakes and sand storms, all would have been experienced. What is different about a pole shift is that all on Earth will be experiencing such times at once, none exempt.

Comment by Kojima on September 19, 2022 at 6:38am: * ZetaTalk for Greater sacrifice

ZetaTalk: GodlikeProduction Live

written March 27, 2010 on the GodlikeProduction live chat.

https://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta570.htm

http://www.zetatalk12.com/index/zeta570.htm

What is a highest degree of serving to others ? Is it when you sacrifice your life or there is no general rule and each person can have his / her own specific "highest degree" depending on the situation ?

It is often assumed that to give one's life is the highest sacrifice, but the opposite is true. To live a long life, in a constant effort to help others at the expense of one's own comfort and security, is a greater sacrifice.

Comment by Kojima on September 15, 2022 at 11:12am: * ZetaTalk for Happiness

ZetaTalk Chat Q&A for April 23, 2011

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This may sound like a strange question for the Zetas, but I have tried to find an answer and can't find it. I wonder, will there be any happiness once the shift has taken place? All I visualize is doom and gloom - dull haze in the atmosphere, people afraid for their lives because of wander bands of STSs, hunger, no hope for the future. Will there be any children laughing, people playing music, any expressions of love to our fellow man? Anything to be happy about at all?

You are coloring the future gloomy because your personal expectations for the future are unlikely to be met. Happiness for you does not include what we have described - cooperation between good hearted people, sharing, and an almost endless opportunity to help others who will be near at hand and reaching out to you. For those who are highly Service-to-Other, this is a time of great satisfaction, as their efforts can go almost exclusively to helping others and seeing the results. They will fall asleep at the end of a long and exhausting day with a smile, thinking of the infant who had a full meal for the first time in a long time because someone took time to mash the food into a puree. Or because they had the satisfaction of seeing an infected wound they had been treating with herbs clear up, or handing someone a home-made bar of soap for their first hot bath in months.

This is not happiness for you because you have been holding an expectation of a future life that you perceive the pole shift to be taking from you. A steady source of food, delivered to your kitchen table with no more effort on your part than a quick trip to the grocery. This in exchange for some contribution you now provide or social position that you now hold that will be, perhaps, relatively worthless after the pole shift. You will have to actually put forth effort of some kind to secure and deserve a meal! We have stated that those who find the future too awful to contemplate be allowed their decision, and to focus on helping those who have made the decision to live.

Some call this the glass-half-empty or glass-half-full view. For the good hearted, the glass may be reduced to being half full by the pole shift but they pour themselves into efforts helping others and soon their glass is overflowing. Others, who see their glass reduced to being half empty, and their usual method of filling the glass, their usual expectations, no longer available, will give up. Their pension is gone, their soft desk job gone, and their stocks worthless. This is their choice, their decision, and most often reflects directly upon their spiritual orientation, their spiritual maturity. Those who are Service-to-Other may of course feel anxious over what the pole shift has wrought, but they soon forget about worry, busy with the many opportunities to help others. The pole shift is an opportunity to grow, spiritually, or to focus on what you have lost. Your choice.

Comment by Kojima on August 24, 2022 at 2:54pm: * ZetaTalk for Star Children

ZetaTalk Chat Q&A for March 10, 2012

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People often wonder if they are Star Children, as they feel different from others or have other such clues. Is this a special status, and what does it mean, on a day to day basis, to be a Star Child?

The Earth is awash with Star Children, incarnating on Earth or acting as Walk-Ins, their numbers equaling those of terran born reincarnating souls - one billion each. They are in all walks of life, all cultures, and their history is as diverse as their current incarnations. There is an expectation and aura surrounding Star Children, who are expected to be as gentle and wise as Gandi, as profound and courageous as Jesus, and as long suffering and humble as Mother Teresa. Yet they come to Earth with their own sets of frailties and history of failed lessons, and with vastly different approaches on how to handle life's challenges.

In short, in any given arena, a Star Child or a terran sparked human, both having a plethora of Spirit Guides and/or incarnated visitors, may not operate that differently. Here is the challenge, and here is the human reincarnated with a young or old soul, and here is the prevailing lesson for that soul, and the situation thus is similar. The challenge, and the outcome, speaks to the wisdom and strength of the soul based on how that soul handles the challenge, not because of any label assigned. It matters not whether a soul came from another world or is terran born, and to dwell on that detracts from the issues at hand!

Obviously, Spirit Guides are from higher densities than the soul involved and obviously, their advice comes with immense history and thus wisdom. It is also true that Spirit Guides can move where they are most needed, so that where a given incarnated soul has them one day, they may be gone the next. But in life's lessons, this is the one true fact. Both a young soul and an old soul stand naked before the challenge. Both can rise to face the challenge, doing so with caring and wisdom and courage, promoting the better welfare of all, or floundering. Labels mean nothing.

Comment by Kojima on August 24, 2022 at 5:02am: * ZetaTalk for Spiritual 4D

ZetaTalk Chat Q&A for May 12, 2012

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The Zetas have mentioned souls that technically can graduate to 4th density, because of their spiritual growth but hold back in 3rd density to assist in the Transformation. Can some souls also go to 4th density and then return to Earth, for such service? They would not technically be Star Children because they came from Earth, very recently. They are spiritually 4th density but physically 3rd density. These Earth souls would have a tendency to be very honest with themselves and others. Does this happen, and what are the characteristics of souls returning souls. Could the Zetas clarify? It seems like this is about Star Children but in a different context, related to Earth souls who return.

We have mentioned the reluctance many in the Service-to-Other have about being promoted to 4th density Service-to-Other worlds, as they desire to remain and help their birth-mates make the grade. They decline the promotion, during the periodic harvests, and determine to remain with their birth mates until the Transformation, when all will in any case be sorted out into their future worlds. Those who linger in this manner are staying in a world fraught with danger and suffering, as all 3rd density worlds are, sacrificing their own comfort to help others, a true hallmark of those in the Service-to-Other. These souls are equivalent to Star Children, essentially from a higher density, yet are Earth born.

What is life like, after having glimpsed what the worlds of those fully in the Service-to-Other are like, the cooperation and support given to one another in a high tech existence? These individuals are quite clear on what the goal is, how life among those in a Service-to-Other community proceeds, and can see with great clarity the deceptive picture drawn by those in the Service-to-Self. Where the Service-to-Self claim that rituals and enforced ignorance and rules against personal freedom are for the betterment of mankind, those who have glimpsed what awaits after graduation are acutely aware that this is a falsehood. Thus these entities, who might be called a big brother or big sister, spiritually, can usually be found on the front lines of the battles with those in the Service-to-Self.

Comment by Kojima on August 21, 2022 at 4:21pm: ZetaTalk: Pending Partners

written Nov 24, 2004

http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta179.htm

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There are those who long for the pole shift to begin, as they have structured their lives around what they know, deep within them, will occur. As with all those who live double lives, this is stressful. Contactees live these double lives, many preferring to dampen conscious knowledge of their status, the visits they have with odd creatures bringing news of an expanding role for the Earth in the future, to avoid constant conflict with family or friends or co-workers. They live two lives, one in secret, shared only with close confidants who are having similar experiences, but unable to be open with lovers, parents, children, childhood friends, and priests. Those waiting for the pole shift have similar pain, not due to any fault of their own as they have no control over what is coming, nor any control over the cover-up that prevents open discussion about the physical facts, but their pain is similar because friends and family pull them in the direction of what they term normal living, while the one aware longs for more partnership with friends and family, a chance to talk about the issues without creating yet another argument, sympathy with the stress of trying to plan for sudden earth changes while simultaneously living as though this were not going to occur. Those who know the Earth changes cannot be avoided have arrived at this conclusion not only due to what they observe as facts in the world around them, the infinite number of clues that a cover-up exists, that a second sun has arrived, that an Earth wobble has set in, but often because they are contactees and have received this information well in advance of the occurrence. For them, each phase of the Earth changes, from the arrival of the Second Sun, to the constellations not being right for the seasons, to the Earth lurching about, makes their certainty stronger, their resolve stronger, and the pain likewise increased.

They feel dangled, twisting slowly in the wind, unable to extricate themselves by going backwards into ignorance and unable to go forward into partnership with others unless the cover-up is broken or the pole shift sequence begins. And neither seems to be in a hurry to happen! We have spoken often of the fragility of the cover-up, in that those who are participating have been told that panic is the larger enemy but primarily because they have also been told that no such cataclysmic event as we have described will occur. They have been told that the monster will pass, and that later, when the danger is past, the public could be told. Heads of state, media personalities, weathermen and astronomers alike are told this line, and mostly they believe it because the heart wants to believe this. But what happens when the lie is revealed, and the Earth tips into days of darkness for the northern hemisphere? This most certainly will be accompanied by a disturbed jet stream beyond what the weatherman can imagine, as cold air moves to warm zones of lighter, heated air, while simultaneously being pushed by the rotation of the globe, an unknown maelstrom of fierce and unpredictable storms. And what of the stress on the globe when parts normally aligned with the Sun’s magnetic influences find themselves straining in two different directions, under the dictates of two different magnetic giants? Will the crust protest? Will earthquakes and volcanism be the result? Will those participating in the cover-up maintain a calm exterior and believe the lie they have been told, that this will pass without cataclysmic uproar? The cover-up will drop, suddenly, into a yammering of emotional slips and tearful announcements.

And what of the seemingly endless progression of the Earth changes, a halted orbit for the Earth almost a year now with scarcely any movement toward the pole shift other than increased stress on the crust and a perceptible wobble. Will years pass with this the situation? Will change happen so suddenly that the long wait may be over in days? We would point to the progress of Planet X past the Sun and toward the Ecliptic, as evidenced by the earth’s response to this passing magnet. The tilting that occurred last January, putting Iceland first as the cold spot, then quickly shifting to Siberia, showed the planet passing the Sun’s S. Pole. The strength of the Earth wobble and in particular the direction of the wobble showing the retrograde movement of the passing planet. The odd pause in the wobble as the passing planet arrived close to the Ecliptic in September, all these show progress in the passage. Now we anticipate an increasing tip of the N. Pole away from the Sun, into the 3 Days of Darkness, already past the point anticipated for Winter in the northern hemisphere and Summer in the southern hemisphere. How fast this tipping will occur we will not say, as the establishment still is not sharing what they know with the public, and thus our information will preponderantly serve the elite who still harbor plans to exterminate large sections of the populace, unwanted mouths to be fed in the future, under the cloak of Martial Law.

But one thing is certain, for all the pain that an uncertain wait brings to those longing for partnership with friends and family, for the end to their double lives, there will be commensurate reward when the pace of change picks up. Those around each who wait in pain are noticing the changes, the strengh of their denial a brittle cover over their many concerns. When this cover cracks, like the cover-up the elite has foisted upon the world, there will be a rush to partnership. Plans suddenly made, resources available, love expressed among those who realize how short life can be and how precious moments in each other’s company.

Comment by Kojima on August 19, 2022 at 4:53am: * ZetaTalk for Zeta protection

ZetaTalk Chat Q&A for September 11, 2010

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You guys say that the Council of Worlds has deemed some people important to the Aftertime. How are such individuals determined? Is there anything particularly special about them, aside from being STO? What kind of roles would you expect them to play?

Someone who is important to others, and is also highly Service-to-Other, could be playing many roles. As we have stated, the criteria for protection is

1. the person is not thinking of themselves, nor asking for protection, and in fact would be the type of person to sacrifice themselves in an instant for others, should that be called for,

2. the person's Service-to-Other actions are important to a number of others, so the impact of their loss would extend to many others and be a loss to many.

Most Service-to-Other individuals who have qualified for protection are outside of the public view, and you would not notice them. They work behind the scenes, and are not self promoters, nor do they expect any reward or even recognition. Nor would they think to ask the question you have posed, as it indicates a desire to be one of the people who receive protection. As we stated "the best hope of being protected, or healed, is to not think of oneself, but of others, intensely, and take action to help others".

Comment by Kojima on August 19, 2022 at 4:05am: * ZetaTalk for Japan rescues

ZetaTalk Chat Q&A for April 2, 2011

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Did the Zetas pick up any Service-to-Others before the Earthquake/Tsunami in Japan? In order to prevent their death and allow them to continue their incarnation for the benefit of mankind. Or is this temporary lift only apply to the hour of the pole-shift?

We confirmed that highly Service-to-Other humans were rescued during the devastating earthquake that struck Haiti, where so many dead needed to be buried that mass graves were the only option. Under ordinary circumstances, where these humans were facing certain death, they would be merely moved to their next incarnation, in this case into hybrid bodies, as infants in the high tech hybrid communities. In essence, the souls of these highly Service-to-Other human have been given the choice to remain in human form, the better to serve their fellow man during the time near at hand, the time of the pole shift. Certainly, a hybrid infant could do little. But in human form, speaking the language and knowing the culture, these souls could assist others greatly.

We can certainly confirm that the same situation existed during the great quake that struck northern Japan recently. Those missing are presumed washed out to sea. No recovery is possible. Those taken in human form and given the choice of remaining in human form are those who would otherwise be dead.

The Earth will be home for the Service-to-Other in the future, regardless of the physical form these souls assume. Those in the Service-to-Other long to help others, and there will be immense opportunities in the coming times, not only during the hour of the pole shift but afterwards, when injury and starvation and despair will be rampant. There are humans, incarnated by highly Service-to-Other souls, who have chosen to locate in areas that will be devastated, where despair will be the greatest. Rather than seeking to save themselves, to ease their personal situation, these souls are seeking to be of the greatest service to others. It is these we rescue, to aid them in their quest.

Comment by Kojima on August 18, 2022 at 2:08pm: * ZetaTalk for Survival motivation

ZetaTalk Chat Q&A for April 2, 2011

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It seems natural that after any disaster such as a tornado or earthquake (and of course, the upcomming pole shift) that people work best with a goal in mind (such as rebuilding homes, restarting civilization etc.). Considering that the human species will for the most part be non-existent on Earth within 100 years, what is the best goal to focus on when considering a small community of survivors post-shift? Survival seems the most obvious as does reproduction and continuation of the species, but once a soul's lesson is complete, as in the poleshift, metaphorically speaking: what is the point of remaining in the classroom? I ask this because I am not someone who lies to others easily, even if doing so is for a good purpose, and I want to be able to give a clear reason for persisting to my fellow survivors after the pole shift.

Why not run away as quickly as possible, on whatever excuse? As we have endlessly explained, your life, your travails are not about gaining some material advantage for your physical situation! Those who think in terms of the physical think of returning to what mankind terms modern civilization, as though this were a worthy goal. Man is in the process of poisoning his environment in his greed and careless treatment of his biosphere. He spends his spare time playing video games and becoming obese while lounging in front of the TV. Each country builds a military so that war games can be used to keep the arrogant and greedy in power. This is the civilization you think needs to be rebuilt? If this is your argument when trying to motivate potential survivors, you are speaking the wrong language and to the wrong people. Those who deem this important are not those who are primarily concerned about others.

Likewise those who think about continuing the human race as a goal are hardly concerned about helping others. This is clearly a goal of the Catholic Church, which has done much to create a population explosion on Earth. This is the cry of those who wish to boost their sense of control over others, the larger the numbers, the greater their control. This is the mark of those in the Service-to-Self. Those aware of the soul, of the larger Universe, know that the physical form assumed does not matter. Continuation of the human species is the cry of those who resist the reality that intelligent life in many forms exists throughout the Universe and is currently visiting Earth. This viewpoint is narrow, territorial, full of fear and assumes somehow that the human body is superior to all others. If this is your argument when trying to convince potential survivors, your are again speaking the wrong language and to the wrong people. Those who deem this important are not focused on helping others.

How can it be imagined that once the pole shift has been experienced, that the life lessons have been completed, learned, and now one can run away? How do you know what your lessons are? This is soul knowledge, seldom something consciously known. This is not like your superficial experience with lessons on Earth. Your exam is over, so put down your pencil and paper and rush out of the school room to play? Soul lessons are never completed, they are just augmented, moving to larger and more complex lessons as incarnations proceed and the soul grows in mass and wisdom. Where you are hoping to run away, you are merely running to your next incarnation, where you will be faced with the same dilemmas. When faced with horrible situations, do you think of the others who will be affected, and how to help them? Or will you once again think of how to run away, as quickly as possible?

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