Characteristics - Separation by Orientation; from ZetaTalk

For my understanding I made a chart from "ZetaTalk: Characteristics" shown below.

ZetaTalk: Characteristics

Note: written Jan 15, 2001

During the Transformation, groups of humans will not be separated entirely by orientation at first. This is due to the mix of orientations in human society today, done deliberately to facilitate 3rd Density choices among humans who must decide their orientation - Service-to-Self or Service-to-Others. Often, a highly Service-to-Self entity is placed to reincarnate into the arms of highly Service-to-Other parents, so that both can become familiar with their future situation, where clear polarizing of the orientations will occur. In 4th Density spiritual existence, where the orientations are separated, there is no mix except during those occasions where an engagement is agreed upon, and then those in the Service-to-Other meet highly Service-to-Self oriented entities, and vice versa. Thus, it is often deemed an education, a preparation, to mix these entities together in family or small communities, during 3rd Density life just prior to a Transformation.

Thus, during the cataclysms, many highly Service-to-Other families or small communities may find they have a highly Service-to-Self child among them, or someone of this orientation who is physically dependent upon them in some way. Do they cast these young children or dependents aside, in order to become a fully Service-to-Other group? This is in conflict with the nature of those in the Service-to-Other, especially as there can be no certainty that the child or dependent person has truly decided on a Service-to-Self path. What if they are undecided, dithering, and abandonment would push them in the wrong direction? The Service-to-Other human wants to establish a tone of hope and caring, for all in the group. Should these individuals be punished, during the Aftertime, living in desperate circumstances without help from high tech hybrid communities, only because they are caring for some who are not fully Service-to-Other?

There are rules visitors and hybrid communities are under, set by the Council of Worlds to ensure that the Transformation proceeds apace and is not delayed unnecessarily. The line where visitors or a community of hybrids can assist their human neighbors, or not, is determined by who controls the community of humans. We will give examples.

  • If the community is led of a consensus of the adults, the majority of whom are Service-to-Other, assistance can be given. This community might include some highly self-focused adults, perhaps with young children whom those in the Service-to-Other orientation feel responsible for, and thus tolerate the adults parents for the sake of the children. However, these self-focused adults do not rule, or even influence, the course of affairs in the community.
  • If the community is so mixed as to have as its leadership undecided adults, who are as prone to listen to self-focused arguments as arguments with a strong Service-to-Other motive, they cannot be given assistance. This line is drawn as these communities would then gain strength, which would surely be misused by those in the Service-to-Self in the group, who would take any high tech assistance to further their power over others. Worse yet, this high tech advantage would be used to conquer other groups of humans.

After the Transformation, those in the Service-to-Self do have high tech advantage, but they are strictly quarantined from those in the Service-to-Others. This is controlled by the Council of Worlds, and prevents those in the Service-to-Self from conquering those they would make as their slaves. But during the Transformation process, where mixing can occur and frequently does occur, such a strict separation is not possible. Thus, where leadership is not under a Service-to-Other motive, these communities cannot have a technological advantage outside of that currently achieved in human society.

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Comment by Kojima on July 12, 2022 at 4:23am

* ZetaTalk for Separating from the mixed setting

ZetaTalk: GodlikeProduction Live

written August 2, 2008 on the GodlikeProduction live chat.

Is it really possible for Service-to-Self parents to give birth to a Service-to-Other? Or undecided to have Service-to-Other?

It is absolutely possible and occurring often during these last incarnations going into the pole shift. We mentioned previously the reason for this. Both Service-to-Other and Service-to-Self will be separating from the mixed setting (where they can encounter each other freely) will be moving into an isolated setting during their next incarnation where they meet only entities who share their orientation. Service-to-Other live with other Service-to-Other, and Service-to-Self are quarantined into their "prison planets" with each other.

Since polarization of the orientations is occurring already, this information is also helpful to the human mind and body being incarnated. Service-to-Other communities will encounter gangs who will try to take advantage of them. Service-to-Self individuals will find they are expelled from survival communities and forced to live with each other. Both future settings are facilitated when parents and child are educated in the family setting ahead of time.

Comment by Kojima on July 8, 2022 at 11:30am

* ZetaTalk: Incarnation Focus

written Oct 14, 2006

Since there are so many dysfunctional families in the world where parents and children do not bond well, it seems rather we are all being reincarnated together at the Birthing Envoys' choice and not by our own choice. After all, who the hell would choose to be born to an emotionally bankrupt, remote, abusive parent? No one. The Birthing Envoys must be arranging these family incarnations in order to teach simultaneous lessens to each of us and / or to test us. This existence is a test anyway, right?

We have stated that for immature souls the Spirit Guides dictate the circumstances of an incarnation, and the immature soul has scant input. We have stated that Out-of-Body experiences are discouraged, considered flitting out of school, with the young souls returned to their incarnation. We have stated that this type of monitoring or coercion by the Spirit Guides is done essentially by a force of will, but can the young soul rebel and refuse? What happens in these circumstances? We have stated that the Council of World relies on physical constraints to control souls in the Service-to-Self, using a substance that only very high level entities can control. This substance blocks the stuff of souls from moving about, if necessary, a type of jail. Immature souls leaning toward the Service-to-Self invariably challenge their Sprit Guides, as adolescents do their parents, testing their limits. They encounter this type of restraint, being either forced to remain in the incarnation, or assume the incarnation to begin with, and realize that protest is futile. 

The lessons to be learned during a forthcoming incarnation are clear to the Sprit Guides, and have been explained fully to the immature soul. Often, the lesson is one at the fore repeatedly, in the past, the young entity stuck and not making much progress in this regard. We use the word lesson because the Earth, as in any 3rd Density experience, is a schoolhouse for young souls, and work in school is referred to as lessons. But this is not akin to memorizing and prating back what one is expected to have memorized. Nor is it akin to solving puzzles, learning the mechanisms for solving puzzles, the sciences or the machinations of mathematics so that the soul understands the combustion engine, for instance, and can apply these concepts to future situations. Gaining in-depth knowledge of how the Universe works is, of course, a product of being incarnated, but the lessons of 3rd Density are primarily growth of the soul in how it positions itself vs a vs other souls. The young soul does this by migrating toward being Service-to-Other or Service-to-Self, by a series of decisions backed by actions taken.

That said, that the Spirit Guides can force an incarnation to occur. In that interaction with other entities is the primary determination to be made in 3rd Density, how are the circumstances of an incarnation determined? Rich or poor, strong and healthy or sickly and crippled, intelligent or retarded, with opportunities and freedom or in a restricted setting, and with a supportive family or in a setting of rejection and cruelty - how and why is the particular setting chosen for the young soul? An obvious reason is to teach the young soul empathy, or test the willingness to sacrifice the self out of empathy. Empathy is best learned by being in a position to experience distress, so that in a future life one recognizes the situation another is in, and can either act or decide not to act. Since the goal is to allow the young soul to make decisions, and thus take action, this setting is best done cyclically, with a life experiencing some kind of pain or restriction alternating with a life where opportunity to help those in such a setting exists. 

Depending upon the leaning of the soul, the lessons would move to present greater opportunities for sacrifice of the self, if leaning toward Service-to-Other, to conflicts with other opportunists if leaning toward the Service-to-Self. Service-to-Self is more than mere self centered enjoyment, it is the realization that life with others who are of a like mind will require a type of cooperation, establishment of a pecking order, and living with the consequences of having squandered resources in the unmitigated focus on enjoyment. Service-to-Other is likewise leaning to trust those of a like mind, to accept help as well as give it, and learning the consequences of unmitigated giving without consideration of the need to sustain the self. Thus both orientations are learning what their life in 4th Density, where the spiritual orientations are separated, will be like. Souls will be sorted out by spiritual orientation with those in the Service-to-Self carted off to their prison colony worlds and those in the Service-to-Other incarnated into high tech communities where all care for the common good and the Golden Rule prevails, and in the main these souls have been acclimated to anticipate the setting they are heading toward.

We have stated that going into the Transformation, family or community settings for an incarnation are chosen for exposure to the polarization to be expected during the last days. This polarization of the spiritual orientations presents a lesson in the type of interaction to be expected in 4th Density, where those in the Service-to-Other only encounter those in the Service-to-Self in strictly controlled settings and with delimiting parameters. Democrat and Republican today encounter each other, with the obvious leanings of the parties toward concern for the common man, or concern for the elite with cruel repression of the common man, exposed. But the tentacles where these philosophies clash are many, the opportunities for encounters many. In 4th Density, the battles are more intense, but the settings are tightly controlled and delimited. To prepare young souls for encounters they will have in highly polarized settings, and for future encounters in 4th Density, family settings may put highly Service-to-Other and strongly Service-to-Self souls within the same family. There is never any doubt, within the family, as to the focus of these highly polarized members. Depending upon how activist the individual soul is, these types of encounters may occur in the community, or national, setting, likewise with forethought by the Spirit Guides as to how the incarnations might assist in arranging these encounters.

The next incarnation is planned and plotted by the spirit guides, who give scant consideration to what the immature entity might be clamoring for. This is not the choice of the young spirit, but of the guides.

ZetaTalk: Next Incarnation, written Feb 15, 2002


The Birthing Envoys step in to start guiding incarnations, but do this without having to resort to the imposition of any physical restraints. Order is maintained by what we would best describe as a force of will.

ZetaTalk: Between Lives, written Jan 15, 1996


Once reincarnated, the young spirits are intent on learning experiences, pressing agendas forward, and the like. Incarnations are more than discussion groups, they are action oriented!

ZetaTalk: When We Die, written Apr 15, 1996


These temporary Out-of-Body exits are self limiting, as the guides force the entity back into its physical body after a time. No skipping out of school.

ZetaTalk: Out-Of- Body, written by Jul 15, 1995


Essentially, this is a block that prevents any physical or mental action not authorized. The Council of Worlds relies on a very high level density substance in this regard, which cannot be altered or interfered with by lower densities.

ZetaTalk: Keep In Line, written Jul 15, 1995

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