Why live? - Pole Shift; Aftertime; from ZetaTalk

[Kojima]

For my understanding I made a chart from "ZetaTalk: Pole Shift (o54) and Aftertime (o55)" shown below.

ZetaTalk: Pole Shift (o54)

http://www.zetatalk.com/orientat/o54.htm

Note: written Apr 15, 2002

A common reaction among humans when first contemplating the pole shift as presented by us, is to think that the better option is to go out with the tidal waves, go down under quake debris, or be blown against a wall by high winds and have it all over with quickly. Most survivors of multiple pronged disasters sit stunned until death overtakes them. Imagine the World Trade Center disaster, without rescue. No food stuffs brought in, no financial rescue, no media attention. This is in essence a depression, where less and less is done, as time passes. Illness sets in, and those stunned and unable to see a way out are at last given their way out, quietly.

We present a scenario of struggle to survive in the first place, with travel and terror and living a dual life of uncertainty due to the establishment cover-up. Getting past that as a short term problem, the larger problem looms like a dark cloud. Life in the Aftertime is fraught with dying forests, lack of livestock or flocks or wildlife to eat, and gardens that will not flourish. Add to this the description of a Mad Max world, where a set of laws and a governing body will be nonexistent or turned toward self-service, marauding gangs and the need to live forever in a low-profile mode to survive. Then the time frame of a 25 years volcanic gloom, with climate change requiring vegetation to adjust as well as try to re-grow, and it seems a long way off before one can sit on the porch in the evening, enjoying the evening. Those with children despair that they will be educated, will live to adulthood without health problems besetting them, rotting teeth, painful disease, only to find they are bearing offspring into a world that is a nightmare. Those in poor health envision that they will become a burden on others, fear this will occur in slow steps so they will be unaware of it, perhaps senile or comatose due to starvation, and unable to control their life at all.

Thus, there are huge worries to anyone taking the message semi-seriously, and the first though is that this is a nightmare to be avoided. So, given this perspective, what IS there to live for?

• Those strongly in the Service-to-Others have no problem with this scenario, as they quickly sort out what life for others will be, and make their decisions accordingly. This is no different than what they experience during everyday today. They may be told they have cancer, but consider who is dependent upon them and plot their life accordingly. They may be told someone in the family or a neighbor is going to fall on hard times, and adjust their own lifestyle downward to take them in and share what they have. They may be told someone nearby has defaulted on their responsibilities, and step in without hesitation to fill the gap, being a father to fatherless children or whatever. Thus, those strongly Service-to-Others would not be likely to utter a phrase such as "why live?" as they know why troubled times in particular require one to be there for others.

• Those strongly Service-to-Self sort this out in a similar manner, but in the other direction. As with their everyday decisions, they look over the situation to see how it might be taken advantage of for their own pleasure or power position. Since victims can be presented at any time, they assume many victims and looting and plundering and savaging potential galore in a post pole shift situation. Thus, those highly Service-to-Self will also not be likely to say "why live?" as they are licking their chops and rubbing their hands together.

• The undecided are the ones likely to make the statement, "why live?" as they do not polarize in either direction, but rather think of their own life, and how they interact on a daily basis with other, or what they have come to expect as their daily fare. The focus is the self, but as a child focuses on the self. How will this affect me, what will I do when presented with this or that without the resources I've come to expect will be available to me. The immature spirit pushes the post pole shift scenario out only so far, to the edges of the cocoon they see their life as, and see this cocoon not there. The job will be gone, friends and family may die or wander off, the store shelves empty, the government offices simply not staffed, and whom do they go to with their complaints? Thus, it is the immature, the undecided, who will present leaders in the Aftertime with motivation problems.

ZetaTalk: Aftertime (o55)

http://www.zetatalk.com/orientat/o55.htm

Note: written Apr 15, 2002

The undecided have motive in life according to immediate pleasures, in the main. When they see suffering, before them, they feel compassion and may be motivated to give of their own good, or assist, giving of their time, but this motivation vaporizes as soon as the painful situation is out of sight. They quickly react to a threat of having their lifestyle diminished, or expectations of them increased such that life becomes more work and less play. Thus, to motivate a spiritually undecided individual is, in the main, to present them with suffering, without a buffer, or to present them with a better life should they do this or that.

• In a survival group, where undecideds are mixed in with strongly Service-to-Others individuals, the undecided should not be allowed to avoid the sick room or pathetic crying of hungry infants. Force them into this presence, as choices will be made. They will either rise to the occasion and give of their time, being the better for it overall, or get hostile. If the individual gets hostile, they are making an orientation decision, that their comfort is more important than assisting the suffering of others. In this, the group can decide if they wish to have this member as a continuing drain, given the obvious orientation and mindset. If they grow toward empthy and assisting others in pain and need, then they may in fact make a rapid transit to Service-to-Others orientation, a bonus.

• In focusing on the future, making a clear distinction on how the life of the individual, as well as the group, will be better should this or that task be done, works well with the undecided. This is not unlike a parent motivating an immature child. They get desert if they do the dishes, get to watch TV if they finish their homework, or get to go to the park if they clean their room. In the case of a post pole shift survival group, the carrot can be more variety in the diet, less hunger, warmer or dryer quarters, or a chance to sight see a bit and travel.

[Kojima]

* ZetaTalk for Love the child

ZetaTalk: GodlikeProduction Live

written December 5, 2009 on the GodlikeProduction live chat.

https://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta549.htm

http://www.zetatalk12.com/index/zeta549.htm

Zetas have said that in 100 years there will be no human on earth. So what is the point of preparing for after times. What is the point of grow the saved childs trying to save the human race? Even we know that there is no death so the ones that didn't have the time to learn to be STO will have the oportunity in their next life, on earth or not!

This seems to be a question that is endlessly asked, almost every week. Even though the human race will die out, the souls currently incarnating human life will remember devastation and hopelessness, abandonment and pain. It is this you should be trying to avoid! Love the child, give it security and comfort. Or is letting it suffer in pain and anguish, crying itself to sleep, preferable in your mind? How can you not understand this?

[Kojima]

* ZetaTalk for Souls for human infants after pole shift

ZetaTalk: GodlikeProduction Live

written October 18, 2008 on the GodlikeProduction live chat.

https://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta479.htm

What will happen if a relatively large population of child bearing aged humans exists in the post passage future but not enough STO souls wish to incarnate into human bodies? Will the human fetuses naturally abort? Will the humans become sterile? Will non-sparking souls incarnate into the infants?

The opposite of what you describe will occur. There are currently approximately 1 billion reincarnating souls on Earth out of the approximately 6 billion humans alive. If 90% of the population dies as a result of the pole shift, this leaves fewer living bodies than souls needing their next incarnation. Then take into consideration that highly Service-to-Self souls, which comprise about 5-7% of the current crop of souls, will be taken to their prison planet homes and not need incarnation on Earth. Likewise undecided souls will be taken away to their new home. Service-to-Other souls will indeed be looking for incarnations on Earth, but these incarnations will be into hybrid bodies almost exclusively. Yes, there will be many natural abortions, as starvation will be rampant and nature takes this route to protect the mother. Starving women most often do not conceive, either. Many souls who have come to Earth to assist with the Transformation as Star Children will likely volunteer to incarnate into any human babies born, as such sacrifice is their nature. Thus, there will not be a lack of souls for human infants after the pole shift.

[Kojima]

* ZetaTalk for Real purpose of your life

ZetaTalk: GodlikeProduction Live

written October 4, 2008 on the GodlikeProduction live chat.

https://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta476.htm

Is going about our normal everyday life the best way to go into the shift? I am getting really sick of only discussing problems in the world and I'm getting antsy to start getting active in trying to change things, but if it's all going under in a few years is it really worth it? I mean, I probably will continue to do what I want to do, but I'm just curious if there's a recommended course of action, aside from learning a self-sustaining lifestyle and other survival things.

We have stated that the real purpose of your life is to sort out your spiritual orientation, between Service-to-Other and Service-to-Self. This is the real drama going on. Preparations for the pole shift, in this light, are to ease the anxiety of others, to assist them to accept what has happened, to envelope others in love, etc. Preparations should not be viewed as trying to save as many people as possible, but rather to envelope others with love during these times, regardless of the outcome. Thus, encouraging loving empathy among others is a worthy cause at present, regardless of how it plays out in the survival game.

[Kojima]

* ZetaTalk for Fear of death

ZetaTalk: GodlikeProduction Live

written September 19, 2009 on the GodlikeProduction live chat.

https://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta534.htm

After the Earth Transformation to 4D , to be completed in the next 100 years or so, will finally humanity be able to overcome the fear of death that has obsessed men for hundreds of 3D lifetimes?

Fear of death is at base a fear of the critique that will follow, when the Spirit Guides meet with the departing soul to discuss the incarnation and the lessons learned or accomplished. Those who have made little progress, or who have done harm to others, fear the conclusion. If little progress was made then future incarnation that will require the same lesson to be addressed can be expected. If harm was done to others, then the entity may fear they will be put into an incarnation where they might be the victim. Thus, fear of death is not necessarily a 3rd Density experience.

[Kojima]

* ZetaTalk for Not due to polarization

ZetaTalk: GodlikeProduction Live

written April 11, 2009 on the GodlikeProduction live chat.

https://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta505.htm

There has been a lot of soul polarization lately, (STS killings). Is this an increase or at a normal rate going into the shift as we get closer?

We warned that polarization would increase, but the increased suicides and shootings are not due to polarization. The times are hard, and will get harder as we approach the time of the pole shift. Earth changes will crumble infrastructure, job losses will continue to occur, crop shortages will drive food prices up and increase starvation among the poor, and the explanations given by the establishment will increase anxiety as clearly the truth is not forthcoming. Thus despair and anger will be on the increase.

[Kojima]

ZetaTalk for Forced into incarnation, not allowed to leave

ZetaTalk: GodlikeProduction Live

written December 19, 2009 on the GodlikeProduction live chat.

https://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta553.htm

What will happen if the soul is unhappy with the body, which embodies?

You can imagine that highly Service-to-Self souls are not content in a body which will not attain a powerful position in life, by which that soul can intimidate others or charm them into cooperation. Souls are forced into the incarnation their Spirit Guilds choose for them, and are not allowed to leave. If the human is about to commit suicide, then the soul is jumping out of the body and is allowed to do so. But this cannot be faked, the Spirit Guides are not fools. In these circumstances, if other spirits are about willing to incarnate into that body, then a Walk-in by a Service-to-Other soul or possession by a Service-to-Self soul can occur.

[Kojima]

* ZetaTalk for Incarnated into the hybrids

ZetaTalk: GodlikeProduction Live

written September 29, 2007 on the GodlikeProduction live chat.

https://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta404.htm

The zetas have repeatedly mentioned the human race and our current genetic makeup will die out after the next poleshift. However, they also mention that some humans will be allowed assitance from hybrids and other Service-to-Other aliens. Why would humans die out in such a situation? Would the Service-to-Other beings in service not be interested in preserving the humans and their natural reproduction if the humans so desired it? Please clarify.

This question arose early in the ZetaTalk saga, and was answered as we will answer today. Reincarnation in the future will only be for those souls firmly in the Service-to-Other. While those living at the time of the pole shift will be allowed to live out their lives, eventually only those in the Service-to-Other will be incarnated. Human babies born after the pole shift do not survive in great numbers. Thus, most Service-to-Other souls will be incarnated into the hybrids. Those human babies who survive and grow into adulthood, such that they might conceive and deliver babies of their own, will eventually be contacted by ourselves and our hybrids, be aware of our high tech cities, and will likely be already living among us. Thus, they will be aware of the advantages for hybrid children, and request their own offspring be enhanced. Little by little, it moves toward a hybrid race. No pure blood humans around. Advantages are a higher IQ, a longer life, and less disease. Why wouldn't a Service-to-Other parent want this for their child?

[Kojima]

* ZetaTalk for Human souls, incarnated into hybrid, placed on Earth

ZetaTalk: GodlikeProduction Live

written Jun 23, 2007 on the GodlikeProduction live chat.

https://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta380.htm

Will Service-to-Other souls that perish in the shift incarnate into the new hybrid bodies, or are there different souls already inhabiting said hybrids?

Some human souls have already incarnated into hybrid bodies, and even into full blood Zeta bodies. The issue of whether to incarnate again into human form is one discussed by the Birthing Guides and the soul in question. There are many variables. Those souls incarnating into Zeta or Hybrid bodies are preparing to be of service when the pole shift hits, are grown, and educated, in a role that will count. Those souls that need a lesson particular to 3rd Density on Earth, the battle between good and evil, are placed on Earth in an appropriate setting. This is very much dependent on the maturity of the soul, and their chosen roles.

[Kojima]

* ZetaTalk for Reincarnation, discussions with a soul

ZetaTalk: GodlikeProduction Live

written Sep 30, 2006 on the GodlikeProduction live chat.

https://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta323.htm

A question about reincarnation. When one becomes disincarnate, are they allowed to know what happened to them when they died? For instance, someone who died on 911. They may know that a plane (or whatever) contributed to their death. But, are they allowed to know the exact circumstances of their death included parties involved etc?

The priority in discussions with a soul leaving one incarnation and proceeding to their next incarnation include:

1. first, a focus on their life lessons or what they hoped to accomplish, and how they succeeded,
2. second, a discussion on what is to be accomplished or the focus in the forthcoming incarnation,
3. third, any lingering questions or concerns the entity might have about responsibilities left undone or dependents in bad circumstances, which might incline it to be a ghost and haunt so the resolution of these issues is desires by all,
4. an explanation of the circumstances of their death, which the entity might not be aware of if the soul departed quickly or before the last breath.

Thus, depending upon work load and the interest of the soul itself to learn all these details, the death may or may not even come up for discussion.

[Kojima]

* ZetaTalk for Souls learn empathy by being incarnated

ZetaTalk: GodlikeProduction Live

written August 22, 2009 on the GodlikeProduction live chat.

https://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta527.htm

It is written in the Zetatalk website: "Love may have a blooming going into the shift, as it ought, those with great love in their hearts responding to the realization that little else matters, ZetaTalk." and "The soul does not require food or nourishment as physical life forms do. The only outside reach required is to acquire more of the stuff of souls, present everywhere in the Universe, when growth in bulk is occurring." My Q. is: Has Love something to do with the stuff of souls, is it the best nourishment that makes it grow? Can intense love one gives another human being help his soul to spark or grow faster?

Souls learn empathy by being incarnated, as when they have a life of pain, they recognize this pain in others in later lives and sympathize. Being Service-to-Others obviously involves being empathetic, regardless of what form emotion took during their incarnated years. Mammals are emotional, where reptiles are not, but souls that have evolved in reptilian bodies are just as Service-to-Others as those evolving in mammalian bodies. Shedding love toward others does induce that soul to consider loving others. This is a decision of the soul, a growth of the soul, taking action to help others. A Service-to-Self soul, for instance, would only take advantage of love being thrown their way, and this would hardly help them realize the error of their ways.