ZetaTalk Chat for June 10, 2017

[Nancy Lieder]

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Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 70 [73] years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

[James Lechago]

It appears that the FCC chairman Pai is going to undo some of the rules that regulate the free and open web. This looks like it could be used to restrict access to and the flow of information regarding Nibiru and alien disclosure. He says that he is for a free and open internet but does not want it regulated. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/4/25/1656259/-FCC-Chairman-Pai-r...

Can the Zetas tell us if this is an attack on disclosure? If he is a part of this administration what is the purpose of removing the regulations that protect access?

[Nancy Lieder]

Declined. This is hardly a bold faced plan to stifle disclosure. Any blocks in the Internet are gone around, bypassing the local ISP via call-in to another. Trump is cutting the cost of Federal government, in all agencies. Forcing action into the private sphere. I quote from the article:

This plan would essentially put enforcement of net neutrality into the courts—if the companies aren't abiding by their voluntary pledges to keep the internet open, customers or presumably public interest groups would have to sue them. And be totally buried in the costs of fighting the very deep-pocketed telecom corporations.

Net neutrality is not going to go down without a massive fight. The Internet Association, the trade group that includes Amazon, Dropbox, eBay, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, Netflix, PayPal, Reddit, Spotify, Twitter, and about 30 other web companies, has already promised that in a face-to-face meeting with Pai. And they’ll  have millions and millions of us leading the charge.

James Lechago said:

It appears that the FCC chairman Pai is going to undo some of the rules that regulate the free and open web.

[Nancy Lieder]

Via email:

There was an article in the Daily Mail last night talking about postponing the election.
[and from another]
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4569880/Calls-election-susp...
Prime Minister Theresa May officially confirmed the election would proceed as planned in a major address from Downing Street after convening the emergency committee.
[and from another]
‘They shouted ‘this is for Allah’, as they stabbed indiscriminately’
June 4, 2017
https://www.infowars.com/they-shouted-this-is-for-allah-as-they-sta...
At shortly after 10pm, a white B&Q van being driven at speeds of up to 50 miles per hour mounted the pavement at London Bridge and ploughed into pedestrians, knocking them down. One eyewitness spoke of the men shouting “this is for Allah” as they stabbed indiscriminately.
[and from another]
149 Dead So Far In Ramadan Attacks
June 4, 2017
https://www.infowars.com/149-dead-so-far-in-ramadan-attacks/
Islamist terrorist groups usually use the holiday to mount more significant terrorist attacks, and promise their followers extra benefits for dying in such attacks during the holy month. The major attacks of Ramadan 2017 include twin suicide bombings in Baghdad and a massive suicide borne vehicle bomb in Afghanistan. An unconfirmed terrorist incident also occurred at a casino hotel in Manila earlier this week. These attacks occurred before a reported deadly incident on London Bridge Saturday.
[and from another]
Australia 'ready to assist' Philippines in Mindanao battle with Islamists
June 4, 2017
http://www.smh.com.au/world/payne-australia-ready-to-assist-philipp...
Australia stands "ready to assist" the Philippines as government forces battle Islamic State-linked militants in the country's south. The focus on terrorism coincided with a gunman who stormed and torched a Manila casino, killing 36 people, which has been claimed by Islamic State.
[and from another]
London’s New Mayor Warns Trump: Let In Muslims Or They Will Attack America
05/10/2016
http://dailycaller.com/2016/05/10/londons-new-mayor-warns-trump-let...
The new Muslim mayor of London has issued a warning to Donald Trump: Moderate your stance on Muslims, or they will launch more attacks against America. While Khan touted the liberal values of British Muslims, some polls have found worrying indicators that their assimilation is incomplete. A poll in April, for instance, found that two-thirds of British Muslims would not tell the government if a friend or family member became involved with extremists. Half of them said homosexuality should be illegal and over 20 percent supported establishing sharia in the U.K.
[and from another]
Two Days Before Terror Attacks, London Mayor Called Global Warming ‘One Of The Biggest Risks To Humanity’
June 3, 2017
http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/03/two-days-before-terror-attacks-lo...
Khan called global warming “one of the biggest risks to humanity” and pledged to work with other cities to meet the goals of the Paris Agreement, which is to keep future global warming below 2 degrees Celsius.



SOZT
France was under ISIS attack two years ago, during the Charlie Hebdo and Paris attacks, due in part to ridicule of Islam by Charlie Hebdo and also to France bombing ISIS in Syria. Why then is the UK suddenly the prime target? It is true that the start of Ramadan coincides with these fervent attacks, and they have within the past few days occurred in the Philippines, Afghanistan, and Baghdad. But the UK suffered the Manchester bomb on May 22 and the London Bridge was attacked by a swerving driver on June 4.

Europe has recently had an influx of refugees, the vast majority of which are young men. They lack identification or carry false ID, and are almost entirely ISIS sleeper cells awaiting the call. Despite attacks to date seeming to come from long-term residents who have been radicalized, the real danger is still to come. We have warned
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/08oc2016.htm
that the plan by Erdogan and Merkel to control Europe in the future, via these ISIS soldiers, is still pending. The upcoming June 8 election, called by May to strengthen her hand re Brexit, would also strengthen her hand re anti-terrorism measures such as limiting immigrants and deporting suspects.

Europe is at a cusp. The arguments against deporting the refugees, sending them back to Syria or their presumed homeland, are countered by sympathy. There are those, such as London’s new Mayor,
http://dailycaller.com/2016/05/10/londons-new-mayor-warns-trump-let...
who openly state that anti-refugee measures will incur terrorist attacks. May is not expected to lose during the June 8 election, so DELAYING the elections, permanently, is the goal. In a country where the police do not even carry guns, it will require a major shift to get the upper hand. In the meantime, the UK will gradually become a police state.
EOZT

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/08oc2016.htm
Meanwhile, ISIS was pouring into Europe with terrorism, with Merkel’s plans to use them as a militia in the future and Erdogan’s plans to expand Turkey into a new Ottoman Empire.

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/01oc2016.htm
Has Germany built secret bunkers to survive the passage of Nibiru? These bunkers in Germany anticipate housing Muslims almost exclusively. Merkel has been an aggressive proponent of bringing in Syrian refugees, who seem to be disproportionately young men rather than complete families with women and young children and the aged. This begs the question, why did these young men desert their families? This refugee welcome is deliberate, to sculpt the population into a worker force rather than a citizen base demanding social services. Was this Merkel’s plan, and has it failed? Yes.

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/09ap2016.htm
Erdogan has naked ambition to recreate the Ottoman Empire, which involves reaching into Syria and Iraq, retaining control of Kurdistan, swallowing Greece, and eventually taking most of Europe into his domain.

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email:

God bless you and the Zetas for the noble work and assistance to the weak and the helpless people of the world during this end of times. I have a very important question to the Zetas related to the end of times which we the Muslims could not find an answer to it since more than 14 centuries ago. As you know the Qur’an is the last divine scripture sent to all humanity and Jinn (spirits) after the Taourat (The Old Testament) and The Injeel (The New Testament ) to give them a last chance to believe in the soleness and the uniqueness of the creator Allah (God) of the universe and the Day of Judgment. Muhammad (peace be upon him) as The Messenger of God and as a star child according to the Zetas has explained and complemented some of the unclear ideas and verses  in the Qur’an and foresaw a lots of end of times happenings to his people and to humanity as a whole. These interpretations and actions have been gathered many years after his death which was called by Muslim scholars as the Hadith or the Sunna or Muhammed’s Talks and Actions. Among his predictions of the End of Times what Islam in the Qur’an and The Sunna (Muhammed Talk) called « The Hour » . Muhammed talked extensively about the coming of the hour and its consequences to humanity even though he admitted that neither him nor the Arch Angel Gabriel knew precisely about the exact timing of its happenings, but nevertheless he presented us with many approaching signs that will occur very close together: Prophet Muhammed more than 14 centuries ago stated that the fake Christ will rule the world for 40 days:
·       One day like a year
·       One day like a month
·       One day like a week
·       And the rest of the days like your days.
Since then Muslim scholars have been presenting hundreds of interpretations to this statement in vain.
Could the Zetas resolve to us this unusual puzzle and thank you.
[and from another]
The Qu'ran, as the Bible, does describe the coming Pole Shift. Book of Revelations in Bible, and Exodus for a past Pole Shift. We in ZetaTalk and in the pages of the Troubled Times documentation have acknowledged the information from the Qu'ran, the Hadiths, specifically.
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta163.htm
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/blog0801.htm
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/blog0913.htm
Your list is almost entirely sociological, but some items are geological, such as “The rising of the sun from the west.” This is part of the Last Weeks description in ZetaTalk, where the globe reacts so strongly leaning the N Pole away from the approaching Nibiru that it has 3 days of Darkness, but momentum temporarily turns the globe upside down.
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta582.htm
“A smoke to cover the earth” could relate to the intense drought and deluge, many wildfires, the world is experiencing as weather is disrupted during Nibiru's approach. “Sink holes in the West” and “Sink holes in the East” and “Sink holes in the Arabian Peninsula”. Well we certainly have sinkholes everywhere, the PoleShift.ning.com documents that well. And “A Fire from Eden (Yemen) who will drive people to Jerusalem?”  ZetaTalk described the African Roll, where the Red Sea splits open further, and there are volcanoes there.  Your other issues, which are sociological or based on religious prophecy, are not addressed in ZetaTalk beyond what they call polarizing of the spiritual orientations. Souls lean either toward evil (being selfish and trying to control others, take from others) or good (being empathetic and caring of others). As the End Time approach, these tendencies become more obvious, and humans group together with their own kind.
http://www.zetatalk.com/transfor/t00.htm
[and from another]
I would like to know what phenomena that causes a normal day to be equal to one year? And the second day to be equal to a month and the third day to be equal to a week? And then everything returns to normal? Could this be related to the rotation or to the three days of darkness or maybe Muhammed was talking about another distant future and not the coming poleshift? Salaam.
[and from another]
Much of what is relayed is allegorical. For instance in India Shiva is Nibiru, and Kali the Earth Dark Twin which appears blue in our view.
http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tworx608.htm
And in China, the Nuwa Legend described the globe coming to life again with new poles.
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue463.htm

SOZT
We in ZetaTalk have been allowed to describe a sequence of events, as the date of the Pole Shift is not to be known. Jesus and Muhammed, as well as other Star Children, were intent on giving humanity messages to help them grow, spiritually, toward being good hearted. As the Book of Exodus and Revelations in the Bible and the Muslim Hadiths show, these early religions also tried to convey wisdom about past and pending cataclysms. In Islam, this is documented in the Hadiths where sunrise West
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta163.htm
during the Last Weeks
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta582.htm
allows the hour of the Pole Shift to be determined.

That said, what would Muhammed have been referring to in his reference to 40 days? “One day like a week” is referring to the stopped rotation of Earth, which we have predicted will last 5.9 days. This seems like a single day as the Sun stands still over part of the globe. “One day like a month” preceding that would be the Last Weeks. Excluding the Severe Wobble leading into the Last Weeks and the Rotation Stoppage at the end, our prediction includes 34 days, a month that includes 3 Days of Darkness and 6 days of Sunrise West.  

“One day like a year” preceding the Last Weeks is predicting the confused weather and sunrise/sunset times that result from the daily Earth wobble gone wild. We have predicted that the seasons will “blend into one another”, thus that year will seem not to have distinct seasons, but a mix. The wobble can make the Sun rise and then set again, as has been documented, so night and day may become confused as the wobble worsens.  Muhammed is predicting this confused period to last at least a year. And then things go back to normal, rotation returns, and Nibiru is gone from the skies, having moved on.  
EOZT

ZetaTalk Prediction 9/30/2004:
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta163.htm
This is reflected in folklore as a period of darkness for the northern hemisphere, a Biblical prediction of 3 days of darkness, which is not related to the week of rotation stoppage as during this time Egypt finds itself under a blazing Sun. As the Earth continues to roll, in synch with Planet X, keeping its N. Pole pointed away, the Earth is unmistakably turned upside down, again well documented in folklore. During this time the core and crust are glued together, and the rotation of the Earth follows the rotation of the Sun, as always, in direction, thus sunrise West.

The rising of the sun from the west one of the things which must happen. Between the decline of the sun (at noon) and the time of the afternoon prayer, the sun will remain still.
Kitab al Irshad, The Twelfth Imam
 
The Hour will not be established ... till the sun rises from the West.
The Hadiths

[M. Difato]

Could the Zeta's comment on the Al-jazeera cyberattack?

Who is behind these attacks and what might the motive be?

Al Jazeera media platforms under cyberattack

The websites and digital platforms of Al Jazeera Media Network are undergoing systematic and continual hacking attempts.  "..A Federal Bureau of Investigations (FBI) team has been in Doha for the past week after the Qatari government asked the US for help following the security breach by hackers..."

and another, 

Al-Jazeera media network hit by massive cyberattack 'on all systems'

"..The attack comes just days after a handful of Muslim-majority countries cut off diplomatic ties with Qatar after Saudi Arabia announced its intention to do so. One pressure point for longstanding tension between Qatar and its neighbors? Al Jazeera, a Qatari media network often critical of Saudi and Egyptian authorities.

And Qatar (backed by U.S. media citing FBI officials) claims that the whole mess began after a hack of a Qatari news agency to plant what Doha called a fake story about the Qatari leader's views on Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Israel. (Oddly, what he is purported to have said is pretty much what Qatar has long held as policy.)..''

[Nancy Lieder]

Declined as you have answered your question by the quotes. Qatar wants to use Al Jazeera as a propaganda tool and everyone else in the world (who are currently attacking Qatar) want to take Qatar down. Thus, the hacking is no surprise. Why Qatar is under attack is also not a mystery.Sunni vs Shia, etc.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-05-30/gulf-spat-escala...

Qatar accused of undermining Gulf efforts to isolate Iran. Tensions in the Gulf were laid open for a sixth day, with the media in Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates accusing Qatar of supporting extremism and undermining regional unity. Below is a selection from newspapers and websites highlighting the deterioration in ties just a week after Gulf leaders met in Riyadh to greet U.S. President Donald Trump. Qatar has used the Arab Spring to spread extremism by bankrolling the Muslim Brotherhood. Iran is encouraging Qatar to leave the six-nation Gulf Cooperation Council as it seeks regional disunity. 

M. Difato said:

Could the Zeta's comment on the Al-jazeera cyberattack?

[Nancy Lieder]

As is our usual practice, we are closing this 6/10 Q&A so answers can be prepared for the web. Please post your new questions on the chat for 6/17. Thank you.

http://poleshift.ning.com/forum/topics/zetatalk-chat-for-june-17-2017