ZetaTalk Chat for December 31, 2019

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Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 78 years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

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Permalink Reply by Nancy Lieder on December 18, 2019 at 6:57pm

Accepted but to a VERY limited degree. We will address the Q's Gold Standard quote, Judy Shelton as nominee, and the long ZetaTalk response to your LAST Q here on the Q&A, which we addressed in the Newsletter as Cash Crunch. (http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue685.htm). What about that answer was confusing? The current status quo WILL NOT SURVIVE. So all your quote from the Washington Post or this or that economist will not be sorted out or included. They are all IRRELEVANT. Do the Zetas approve of President Trumps forced liquidity policy? Yes, in fact they recommended it to him, as a strong economy going into the disasters soon to hit is imperative.

Stanislav said:

Recently, Trump began to urge the Fed to lower rates to zero or even to negative values and resume quantitative easing. Radical budget cuts and higher interest rates are very unpopular and risky decisions although necessary. Very confusing! Could the Zetas explain? Q recently hints to us that the gold standard will be back.

[and from another]
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trumps-fed-pick-judy-shelton-gold-stan...
Trump Fed pick wants to revive the gold standard. Here's what that means
July 10, 2019
Judy Shelton is a believer in the return to the gold standard, a money policy abandoned by the U.S. in 1971. Shelton is raising eyebrows among mainstream economists for her views, which include slashing the Fed's benchmark rate to zero and pegging the value of the dollar to gold prices. But there's a downside: A country can only issue as much money as it has backed by gold. The upshot is that countries on the gold standard have less flexibility to respond to financial crises or economic downturns. Currently, the U.S. dollar isn't tied to any specific asset.
[and from another]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judy_Shelton
Judy Shelton is an American economic advisor to President Donald Trump. She is known for her advocacy for a return to the gold standard and for her criticisms of the Federal Reserve. Trump announced on July 2, 2019, that he would nominate Shelton to the Fed.
[and from another]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_standard
The Great Depression (1929–1939) forced countries off the gold standard. In the United States, adherence to the gold standard prevented the Federal Reserve from expanding the money supply to stimulate the economy, fund insolvent banks and fund government deficits that could "prime the pump" for an expansion. Once off the gold standard, it became free to engage in such money creation. The gold standard limited the flexibility of the central banks' monetary policy by limiting their ability to expand the money supply.

SOZT
We addressed the pending demise of the banking industry a month ago,
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/30no2019.htm
which Nancy called the Cash Crunch in a November, 2019 Newsletter.
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue685.htm
Is the banking industry prepared for their demise? They are used to the status quo, to the tools used to keep the financial industry profitable. These include preventing inflation so that bubbles do not burst into bankruptcies, all of which can disrupt the economy and industry and incidentally affect the jobs and profits of the banking industry.

The Earth, and her peoples and economies, are not in status quo times. This past year crop shortages struck worldwide, so easing the hunger in one country by importing goods from another is less and less possible. How will the people react? At first they will pay higher prices and then they will either learn to be more self-sufficient or starve. Thus, the banking industry will either learn to deal with less profit or face bankruptcy. As we detailed a month ago, a currency may be used as a medium of exchange, but banks and central banks will be out of business.

Would the Gold Standard stabilize currencies? Traditionally this practice was viewed as bringing stability and confidence, as a currency would be backed by Gold, thus many countries are stocking up on Gold. But the Gold Standard was abandoned by many during the Great Depression as it restricted stimulation of the economy. We predicted at the start of the ZetaTalk saga
http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p112.htm
that a second Great Depression would grip the globe. The solution is the same now as then, damn the bankers profits, ignore the bankruptcies, and stimulate as needed. Either way, the Fed is dead.
EOZT

Prior 12/15/1999: http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p112.htm
During the coming depression, which is in fact in place but denied by the media and powers that be, one should look to the past Great Depression as an example of things to come. Banks were insolvent, but allowed to operate, not called in. Homeowners and businesses were insolvent, unable to pay, but not called to term, allowed to continue. The reasoning was that there was no one to buy these insolvent entities, so why discontinue their operations! Thus, those insolvent entities were allowed to continue, and gradually came back into solvency, and thus business was reestablished. During the coming crash, this will repeat itself, but with a difference. There will be no re-solvency, no new health, but the shift, instead.

Prior 2008 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta477.htm
Frantic to avoid the mistakes made during the Great Depression, central banks and governments around the world are pumping liquidity into their banking systems - inflation dangers be damned. Will this work? It can't hurt, but the overall cycle will not change. We stated almost a decade ago that the world was heading into a depression, and this was based on an analysis of what business had to deal with as the Earth changes started to bite. For one, crop failures were about to occur. Second, physical damage to business and industry during earthquakes and storms have been on the uptick.

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/30no2019.htm
How do banks fail, softly or with a hard crash? Politicians and the wealthy would prefer the system survive the coming passage of Nibiru, and thus will do all they can to disguise the distress that banks are experiencing. They hope for the common man to learn of Nibiru late, preferably during the Last Weeks, so they have no time to stop paying their mortgage, else foreclosures would increase. This is anticipated to be a temporary burden on the banks, though they can then auction the properties off.

We have long predicted banking failures going into the Pole Shift, due to a worldwide economic collapse from crop failures, earthquake damage to the infrastructure, insurance company bankruptcy, and consequent job loss with loss of income to the individual and to the GDP. Governments will at first respond by printing or producing more money, though fragile countries will be forced to declare bankruptcy. Weak banks will be closed to be absorbed by larger and stronger banks, but this process does have an end point.

Central Banks are at present pumping more liquidity into their banks. Banks make their money when the loans they make are paid back with interest, but if loan failures occur, or the public fails to make new loans, then the banks do not have their anticipated income. Fat cat bankers and their stockholders are distressed. By pumping liquidity, the banks have more funds to loan and more funds for their expenses. This process can continue until the Central Bank can no longer risk running the currency at its base into insolvency.

We have predicted that the world will go into the barter system as the Pole Shift approaches. As foreclosures increase, banks will find they do not have the resources to monitor these properties, and they will be repossessed by their former owners or by strangers. Stocks and bonds will lose their value, with the Stock Markets being considered a joke. Tricks like a negative interest rate is already considered a joke. Why would someone buy a bond when it will cost them money? A currency, such as the Yuan or US dollar, or Euro will continue to be used as a medium of exchange on the street and in shops, however.

Permalink Reply by Nancy Lieder on December 19, 2019 at 5:45pm

Accepted via email:

It seems that Chinese are entering in a kind of second "Cultural Revolution" under President Xi's leadership. No doubt that Western media would spread such news as usual. Can the Zetas explain?
[and from another]
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/dec/09/book-burning-by-chine...
Book burning by Chinese county library sparks fury
December 9, 2019
A county library in north-western China has been criticised for burning books in line with a nationwide cull of “illegal” or “improper” materials used in school libraries. Earlier in October, the ministry of education had ordered all primary and secondary schools to “firmly cleanse” their libraries of reading material deemed illegal, improper or outdated as part of efforts to “create a healthy and safe environment for education”. Over the past year, China has focused especially on regulating what content young people see, from what can be posted online to how long minors can play video games. This year, officials have also called for an overhaul of “patriotic education” in schools.
[and from another]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Credit_System
The system is considered a form of mass surveillance which uses facial recognition system and big data analysis technology. In 2019, it is estimated that 200 million monitoring CCTV cameras of the "Skynet" network have been put to use in mainland China, with eight Chinese cities ranked among the world's top ten most monitored cities, while the number of surveillance cameras is expected to reach 626 million by 2020 when the Social Credit System becomes fully effective. As of November 2019, in addition to dishonest and fraudulent financial behavior, other behavior that some cities have officially listed as negative factors of credit ratings includes playing loud music or eating in rapid transits, violating traffic rules such as jaywalking and red-light violations, failure to appear at a doctor or dentist's appointment, or missing a job interview, restaurant reservation, or hotel reservation without making notification to cancel., failing to correctly sort personal waste, fraudulently using other people's public transportation ID cards, etc; on the other hand, behavior listed as positive factors of credit ratings includes donating blood, donating to charity, volunteering for community services.
[and from another]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-child_policy
China's one-child policy was part of a birth planning program designed to control the size of its rapidly growing population. Distinct from the family planning policies of most other countries (which focus on providing contraceptive options to help women have the number of children they want), it set a limit on the number of births parents could have, the world's most extreme example of population planning. It was introduced in 1979. As part of the policy, women were required to have a contraceptive intrauterine device (IUD) surgically installed after having a first child, and to be sterilized by tubal ligation after having a second child. The IUDs installed in this way were modified such that they could not be removed manually, but only through surgery.
[and from another]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_inequality_in_China
According to the “China Minsheng Development Report 2015” published by Peking University, the top 1% of households account for about one-third of the country's property, and the bottom 25% of households own only about 1% of the total assets.

SOZT
Is China repressive? It is practical. China’s population doubled between 1950 and 1979 when they imposed the one-child policy. They were dealing with starvation throughout the country. Is it better to have the citizens starve? The Hong Kong riots
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue674.htm
were incited by money laundering factions resisting arrest. Those in the west who lecture about civil rights cluck over the social credits system. But China does not have race riots or a draconian divide between the social classes as does India with its caste system and the West where the 1% has vast wealth.

Xi and the committees who control China are faced with the coming Earth changes, where the majority of their populace must be relocated from the flooded coastlines or frigid lands in southern China near India. They must prioritize which resident to move first, and are choosing to sculpt the spiritual orientation of their new Ghost Cities
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue228.htm
to be caring and helpful to others, rather than self-focused. By this they are ensuring survival of their citizens. Or is it better to have bullies and the indolent hamper the progress of these fledgling cities.
EOZT

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31ag2019.htm
The Hong Kong riots have been ascribed to fussing over extradition laws, whereby China can reach into Hong Kong and arrest those they consider criminals, thus allowing such individuals to be extradited to other countries as well as China. Why would the private citizens, crippling the airport with their rioting, care? The public is being told Hong Kong is about to become a police state, thus fanning fears. But it is the criminals being protected by the non-extradition laws who are behind the rioting. Why would China care? They view criminal activity like an infection that can spread, and with Hong Kong technically being under their governance, Hong Kong’s criminal element has been attempting to spread into China.

Permalink Reply by Nancy Lieder on December 20, 2019 at 2:52pm

Accepted via email:

Political leaders around the globe have celebrated the 16-year-old climate activist Greta Thunberg. The protests launched in big cities worldwide by the environmental campaign group Extinction Rebellion. She has won several honours and scholarships, but it seems that when there was a cash award she donated it to charity. For example she received the German Goldene Kamera Special Climate Protection award and Thunberg said she would donate the 25,000 euro prize money to organizations she feels are doing good work in the area of climate change. A French website said she's financed by Swiss Bankers (EFG International Private Bank) and by BMW. Neither are brands which are usually associated with climate activism. There are growing rumors she's a shill from the elite to promote the climate change agenda and distract people from discussions about the Earth Changes and the pending Pole Shift. Who is funding Greta Thunberg's world eco-adventure? What the Zetas say about her and Extinction Rebellion worldwide protests?
[and from another]
https://www.finews.com/news/english-news/37460-greta-thunberg-clima...
Greta Thunberg's Ties to High Finance
August 2, 2019
The Swedish teen activist is sailing to a major New York climate conference to make a point about flying. The high-speed yacht's sponsors including German carmaker BMW and Swiss wealth manager EFG International.
[and from another]
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-10-09/planet-earth-...
Greta Thunberg Going Radical Won’t Help the Planet
October 8, 2019
At the harsher end, U.S. President Donald Trump and his Russian counterpart, Vladimir Putin, have been mocking and condescending. Putin described her as a clueless victim of adult manipulation. Activism in support of Thunberg’s message could degenerate into the incoherence of antiglobalist protests, which have been loud and disruptive, but haven’t led to any meaningful change.
[and from another]
https://www.rt.com/news/476133-greta-documentary-rise-to-fame/
Surprise! Greta Thunberg BIOPIC reveals cameras were rolling from day one of her ‘viral’ rise
December 17, 2019
One might ask why, if Thunberg’s meteoric rise from her lonely sidewalk protests to hectoring the rulers of the world about her stolen future was as organic as it is presented, a documentary crew was already present to film her sitting alone on the pavement? Her rise has been meticulously choreographed. A year later, her larger-than-life image graces four stories of a wall in San Francisco, cafeterias in Tel Aviv (where her disapproving gaze is supposed to shame eaters away from plastic utensils), and London’s Trafalgar Square, where an ice sculpture carved in her likeness was raised in October.
[and from another]
https://www.autismparentingmagazine.com/greta-thunberg-making-most-...
Greta Thunberg: Making the Most of Your Differences
October 1, 2019
In 2003, a girl named Greta Thunberg was born in Sweden. When that girl was eight years old, she first learned about the very real threat of global warming. At age 11, Greta Thunberg fell ill. She stopped eating, stopped talking. She was deeply depressed. Later, she was diagnosed with Asperger’s syndrome, obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD), and selective mutism, which gave some of her views on the climate crisis more context.

SOZT
Greta’s campaign has indeed been planned and implemented by others from the start. She was chosen in part due to her Asperger’s syndrome which allows her to be fixated and inflexible. Her age, as a child, was deemed to protect her from attack. What is the goal of the Greta campaign? As we have often stated, the Global Warming fraud
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue542.htm
was designed to explain the Earth changes caused by the approach of Nibiru. When it became clear that the globe was not warming, but CHANGING, the term was changed to be Climate Change.

The side benefit of this fraud was that the establishment could collect money from corporations and individuals by charging them for their Carbon Footprint.
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue558.htm
Now there were dual reasons for resisting the truth about Climate Change – the cover-up over Nibiru and the profits from Carbon Footprint taxes. Greta’s sponsors are not her real sponsors, but act as a buffer for those behind the campaign. They want the Carbon Footprint profits to not only continue but increase. Thus Greta will continue to be promoted.
EOZT

Permalink Reply by Shaun Kazuck on December 21, 2019 at 7:47am

Hello:

I live on some of the oldest rock on the North American plate in the city of Rhinelander, Wisconsin and they had to shut down 2 of their remaining 5 active water wells due to PFAS contamination a few months back. Now an article comes out saying that sites all over the country, mainly on the fault lines, are all also suddenly contaminated with the same toxins. We got the same firefighter foam excuse but do not have a military base and have only a small airport.

But knowing it is nationwide, are we to believe that this only became a problem just recently and so suddenly and despite the chemical having been used for ages? Is this another side effect of the quickly intensifying rock strain that is showing up in the rapid uptick of gas explosions and other hard rock adjustments? Also seems a handy way to prepare people for the loss of basic services like potable water in the near future.

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/there-are-more-300-us-military-bas...

Thanks!

Permalink Reply by Nancy Lieder on December 21, 2019 at 12:45pm

It has long been known that the military ignores pollution on its bases, lets itself off the hook. This is yet another example. In the past few years, they turned over the Badger plant just south of Baraboo and the ground was so contaminated that private parties don't want to touch it, even turning away the land as a gift. This PFAS is just an other example, thus declined for new ZT.

Shaun Kazuck said:

I live on some of the oldest rock on the North American plate in the city of Rhinelander, Wisconsin and they had to shut down 2 of their remaining 5 active water wells due to PFAS contamination a few months back.

Permalink Reply by Nancy Lieder on December 24, 2019 at 3:17pm

Accepted from the Moderators chat.

Given this activity and the elite on their ships, I cannot help coming back to their timing and place, and the fact that there are so many of them in the same location. Couple of years back, George Webb explained how these nefarious ones use their sophisticated 'yachts' to conduct business. They, in the past have managed to evade the intell teams by anchoring and having pow wows with other yachts/business clients. Going back to the ships and billionaire topic. US law says: Title 18 U.S.C. § 1651 states: Whoever, on the high seas, commits the crime of piracy as defined by the law of nations, and is afterwards brought into or found in the United States, shall be imprisoned for life. Then the US Marines just posted this https://twitter.com/USMC/status/1209156719235874817 I think it's a go!!
[and from another]
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7819927/Superyachts-includ...
Where the billionaires are spending Christmas: Map reveals where the world's Superyachts including Roman Abramovich's 533-feet vessel are berthed for winter sun
December 22, 2019
Billionaires the world over have clearly decided the luxury islands are the place to be to see in Christmas and the New Year, as the amount of vessels has swollen from 16 in November to 52 in December. The Chelsea Football Club owner's Eclipse is currently in picturesque St Maarten along with 50 other yachts. The country of Sint Maarten is a constituent country of the Kingdom of the Netherlands, and forms part of the island of Saint Martin in the Caribbean. Joining Roman Abramovich's monster 533ft vessel, is mogul David Geffen's Rising Sun, in nearby St Barts.
[and from another]
https://www.jus.uio.no/english/services/library/treaties/08/8-01/hi...
The high seas being open to all nations, no State may validly purport to subject any part of them to its sovereignty. Freedom of the high seas is exercised under the conditions laid down by these articles and by the other rules of international law.
[and from another]
https://www.justice.gov/jm/criminal-resource-manual-670-maritime-ju...
The high seas, any other waters within the admiralty and maritime ... or to any corporation created by or under the laws of the United States or of any State, ... the right to complain of arrests, searches and seizures made without consent of the flag state or any subsequent trial.

SOZT
Why are the super-rich gathering at Saint Martin for Christmas 2019? Uninvited visitors and snooping can be controlled on a boat, unlike the many problems that regularly present during the annual meetings at Davos. What pressing subjects are on the agenda? In 2011
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/11fe2012.htm
it was the fear of the masses awakening to Nibiru. In 2015
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/24ja2015.htm
it was the fear of financial scandals engulfing the wealthy. But at present it is the rapid progress of the Tribunals in the US and UK, and many powerful and wealthy people who have been, essentially, vaporized.

The US is considered the strongest economy in the world, with the US military as large as all others combined. If anything, under President Trump, this has increased. The Junta, in control of the US since late 2015, has confiscated funds from the Clinton Foundation while the UK Marines have retrieved money laundered funds from the Queen’s personal coffers. Those committing treason in the US have been tried and executed, with many more in the docket awaiting sentencing. McCain is gone, Obama and Pelosi are doubles, and the Queen replaced by a double.

Moloch child rape and sacrifice, the Satanic practices prevalent in Hollywood and among the Khazarians in control of western banks, has gone from a game boosting the sense of power and control among the elite to a sense of intense fear. The Epstein scandal on its surface is purported to be dates with teen girls, but the elite know this network indulged in Satanic practices too. The Junta cannot be bought or threatened, nor can political or social connections sway the Tribunals. Avoiding extradition did not save Pelosi, so what to do?

Of note is that a criminal at sea is under the control of the flag state, the country of residence of the owner. A moored boat is under the control of the nearby country at anchor, unless in international waters. Thus this conclave of the super-rich is moored at Saint Martin, a Netherlands country. Moloch worship, in every form, sprang from the Netherlands. Will the super-rich begin living on their yachts to avoid arrest? Given the productivity of the Tribunals lately, they may never leave the Caribbean.
EOZT

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/11fe2012.htm
But more than the horror of life as they know it disappearing - the possibility of the very wealthy and their lackeys becoming irrelevant - was the fear of an awakened public. Those who imagined they could slide from their comfortable and controlled life styles into comfortable and secure bunkers are having a rude awakening. The common man is not going to be lulled into ignoring the signs, the Earth changes, and will be demanding answers and to be accommodated! The increasing wobble has placed the Sun and Moon where they ought not to be, and this is abuzz on the Internet, as is the moaning and trumpeting Earth.

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/24ja2015.htm
The elite, those who are wealthy and politically powerful, have been shaken by investment losses, sudden and unexpected market reversals such as the Swiss Franc debacle, scandals revealed via new witnesses and evidence, and a surprising lack of cooperation from those they formerly considered their partners. What is shocking them is that they are actually experiencing setbacks, when they were so sure they controlled their world.

Permalink Reply by Nancy Lieder on December 25, 2019 at 3:05pm

Accepted via email:

This looks legit! What is the message for those below?
[and from another]
Huge UFO Soaring Over Las Vegas - Just Now!
December 19, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr1MJ3nX3do
I shot this video from my backyard in the Summerlin area of Las Vegas, Nevada on the night of December 19, 2019. This one was heart pounding! If it began and ended where I think it did it made a 50 mile trip in 3 minutes which is a thousand miles an hour and that was from a dead stop. This night vision monocular will show red and green lights.
[and from another]
What Is Aerial Mystery Over Las Vegas, Nevada, Early Evening of December 19, 2019?
December 19, 2019
https://www.earthfiles.com/2019/12/19/what-is-aerial-mystery-over-w...
December 19, 2019 Las Vegas, Nevada – Near 5:20 PM Pacific time, 65-year-old retiree Steve Barone had a gut feeling that he should go outside his Summerlin South home in west Las Vegas. He has been monitoring the night sky in Las Vegas since 2014. His home is on a raised region of Las Vegas western foothills and at night he often sees strange moving lights that do not act like typical helicopters or small planes or jets or airliners or noisy drones.
[and from another]
Las Vegas Resident Spots 'Unidentified Object' over City
December 20, 2019
https://www.ktnv.com/news/viral-video-las-vegas-resident-spots-unid...
Vegas resident Steve Barone released a video of what he says was an unidentified flying object near the Mountains Edge community. Barone captured the bright object in about a six-minute video in what he shared on his social media accounts.
[and from another]
Secret Revealed: Germany Has Unveiled a Stealth Aircraft
November 29, 2019
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/secret-revealed-germany-has-...
Yet while LOUT looks exotic, there is still the question of whether Europe is capable of building sixth-generation stealth aircraft that are more advanced than the fifth-generation U.S. F-22 and F-35, Russia’s Su-57 and China’s J-20. France and Germany have the FCAS, while Britain has announced the Tempest, a laser-armed stealth fighter.

SOZT
This legitimate UFO capture is sending several distinct messages to those seeing this in process and those viewing the video afterwards.

1. One statement by those making the UFO display is that the alien presence is very real and present, and all the nonsense about mankind having secret planes is just more clinging by the establishment to their claim that UFOs are mankind’s craft. Thus, TWO bright orbs close together, despite the speed, and steadily throbbing light – both aspects that mankind has not and cannot duplicate.

2. Another statement apparent in the Las Vegas UFO display is the speed at which the globe will turn during the hour of the Pole Shift. At first, during the last weeks, the globe will fall back into the 3 Days of Darkness, thus the slow turn to the right in the video. Then, within the span of an hour, the globe will do a quarter turn - the crustal shift. Thus the phenomenal speed of the bright orbs rushing now to the left in the video.

3. And finally, an implied statement was to compliment and thank the videographer. The venue, in Mountain’s Edge, was chosen both for the backdrop of mountains, which help determine speed and distance, and the videographer, who was alerted to be on site that night. Those planning the display knew that Steve would be there, and his work would stand up under scrutiny.
EOZT

Permalink Reply by Juan F Martinez on December 26, 2019 at 5:05pm

Nancy, during the Annular Solar Eclipse various photos and videos surfaced of multiple rings. What's going on?

https://www.facebook.com/lipan.bara.568/videos/2466411886802322/

Permalink Reply by Nancy Lieder on December 26, 2019 at 5:52pm

Accepted.

Juan F Martinez said:

During the Annular Solar Eclipse various photos and videos surfaced of multiple rings. What's going on?

I see this video on the web: Moon shadow from last ECLIPSE projected on Earth. It seems that is going along a curve rather than a line and plus at one point when it was over the Vietnam seems that shift sudden north ,air masses move accordingly, you can see it on the Hurricane "Phanfone" Movement that is going on. Wobble at play.
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https://www.space.com/ring-of-fire-solar-eclipse-2019-photos-videos...
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https://www.facebook.com/lipan.bara.568/videos/2466411886802322/

SOZT
As noted during prior eclipses, the sky often looks black due to the camera attempting to dim the bright light of the Sun. Another camera effect is a dual image, called a ghost in the camera, as a bright object such as the Sun will appear more than once, reflecting back and forth on various lenses. Official photos will not show any evidence of Nibiru, but amateur photos are more revealing. As noted during the 2017 eclipse, the projected path
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue569.htm
did not hold due to the Earth wobble, which can be sudden and move within minutes
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue304.htm
or even seconds.
EOZT

Permalink Reply by Nancy Lieder on December 29, 2019 at 3:15pm

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SOZT
Of course the US is concerned about protecting the second White House in Denver, so President Trump’s joke about building a wall around Colorado
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31oc2019.htm
was not as much in jest as sincere. It is not a physical wall, but a drone guard that has been erected, as the Denver Post reported. This drone guard extends into states south of Colorado such as New Mexico, and into California where illegal immigrants proliferate. Starlink satellite launches have added to this confusion, forming a long string of lights in the night sky. Is any of this the new Space Force in action? No.

A characteristic of drones is that they can hover, like mini-helicopters. Thus, in California the bright lights in a group were engaged in scanning the ground below, in a grid like manner, while when viewed from a distance appeared to be standing still. These military drones can defend themselves. They can shoot down birds or any counter-drone offensives, as was noted on a New Mexico drone force film. Then there is the debris in the tail of Nibiru, which is wafting toward the Earth increasingly. Combined with the petrol elements in the tail, which form neon clouds
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue641.htm
and magnetic swirls, this debris can descend like bright snakes.

Then there are legitimate UFO displays done by the visitors communicating with Earthlings below. These are characterized by rapid maneuvers that could not be accomplished by drones or any of man’s devices. They can also disappear into another dimension. The recent Las Vegas UFO
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31de2019.htm
had such aspects. Was the red glowing bar seen in Kazakhstan a legitimate UFO? Clues that this was reflected sunlight on a high building sticking above the clouds are that the display was always low, essentially in the clouds, and no motion was detected.
EOZT

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31oc2019.htm
Given the speed of the Earth changes, such as the pending New Madrid adjustment, what if the nation is distracted before the wall is completed? Worst case scenario, those states bordering Mexico would be flooded with immigrants from Central America, who would arrive in such numbers that they would dominate the region close to the border. Given that the Western White House is in Denver, and most federal agencies are already headquartered there, a fall-back position would be to defend the Colorado border.

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31de2019.htm
Thus, two bright orbs close together, despite the speed, and steadily throbbing light – both aspects that mankind has not and cannot duplicate.

Permalink Reply by Nancy Lieder on December 31, 2019 at 1:35pm

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What is the agenda in the 2019 holiday attacks – anti-Semitic in New York and against a Church in Dallas?
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Suburban NYC synagogue reels from ‘act of terrorism’ as suspect held on $5 million bail for attack injuring five
December 29, 2019
https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/ny-monsey-anti-semit...
Thomas, armed with the machete, allegedly entered Rabbi Chaim Rottenberg’s home in Monsey’s Forshay neighborhood around 9:50 p.m. Saturday and wordlessly stabbed five people, including a son of the rabbi. Congregants, who had just lighted a menorah, threw chairs and desks at the assailant to try and stop him. Thomas, 37, was covered with blood he had tried to remove with bleach when cops nabbed him in Harlem hours after the attack — and a bloody machete was found in his car. He has no criminal record. But a law enforcement source said Thomas has three criminal cases from the early 2000s, some of which are sealed. They include charges of possessing an imitation pistol or air rifle in Brooklyn in 2000, possessing a loaded gun in Brooklyn in 2001, and punching a police horse in Midtown Manhattan in 2002.
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Gunman kills 2 at White Settlement church before 2 members fatally shoot him
December 29, 2019
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2019/12/29/2-dead-1-in-critic...
A gunman killed two people during a Sunday morning service at a church in White Settlement before members of the congregation fatally shot him. Changes in state law that ensured the right to carry concealed weapons in churches. The gunman had been arrested in different jurisdictions. Although the man had roots in the area, it appears he may have been transient.
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Dems rush to blame Trump for anti-Semitic violence
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dems-rush-to-blame-trump-for-anti-...
Anti-Semitism long has been prevalent on the fringes of both ends of the political spectrum. But Trump foes quickly seized on the New York area attacks to suggest the president specifically fanned the flames of hatred.
Rep. Eric Swalwell, D-Calif., pointedly blamed Trump for the rise in anti-Semitism in the US. However, Trump has condemned anti-Semitism. While his statement in response to the Monsey attack came later in the afternoon, he spoke out against bigotry against Jews in no uncertain terms. Trump also condemned anti-Semitism after the 2018 mass shooting at the Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh. Earlier this month, Trump signed an executive order that would cut federal funding to colleges and universities that don't curb anti-Semitism against Jewish students.

SOZT
The constant turmoil in the Middle East is not simply a matter of Sunni and Shia
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue480.htm
factions wanting dominance, it was deliberately fomented by the Bush Cabal to provide an excuse to invade for control of the Iraq oil reserves. Bush 41 invaded in 1990 after Iraq reacted to oil price disputes,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War
and Bush 43 invaded in 2003 because Hussein had been demonized. The constant attempts to demonize Russia has a similar financial basis, to support the military industrial complex with consequent spinoff of funds to various Deep State and political beneficiaries.

Animosity against Muslims has exploded into violence, as when Charlie Hebdo
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue478.htm
was attacked in 2015, or when the Mohammed cartoon charade
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue455.htm
resulted in violence in the US in 2015. Incited US race wars such as Black Lives Matter
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue512.htm
in 2016 or in Ferguson in 2014
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue427.htm
also had at its base trying to incite Martial Law in the US so the assets of the elite could be protected. But these incited race and culture wars did not succeed in forcing the US into Martial Law under Obama.

The arson attack on the Notre Dame Cathedral
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue656.htm
in 2019 was an attempt to pit one religion against another to ignite World War III, as the Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem was attacked on the same day. Is there a similar theme in the recent anti-Semitic attacks in New York and the White Settlement Church attack in Dallas? The nexus is religious hatred. Yes, these holiday attacks are not coincidental and are incited, but this time the source is desperation among Democrats, as they are losing in the polls and are about to be indicted on many fronts by the DOJ for treason.

The Mueller Report failed. Impeachment failed. Painting President Trump as a racist or sexist failed. Any Epstein muck did not stick. Assassination attempts failed. Coup attempts failed. Election fraud failed during Hillary’s bid in 2016, and they know that in 2020 the polls will be even more closely watched. The Democratic candidate lineup is pathetic, and even late entries by white male billionaires are not impressive. Those implicated in 2016 treason are facing Tribunal executions, and are desperate. They are trying to light a fire that will engulf President Trump. Of course, this too will fail.
EOZT

Permalink Reply by Nancy Lieder on December 31, 2019 at 1:40pm

As is our usual practice, we are closing this December chat and opening the January chat. Please post your questions there. Thank you.

(http://poleshift.ning.com/forum/topics/zetatalk-chat-for-january-31...)

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