ZetaTalk Chat for July 31, 2022

[Nancy Lieder]

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Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 78 years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

[Ryan]

Was it just a rain that caused the flooding or is the ground heaving affecting the drainage?

https://www.accuweather.com/en/severe-weather/at-least-1-dead-in-fl...

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted

Ryan said:

Was it just a rain that caused the flooding or is the ground heaving affecting the drainage?

[and from another]
https://www.accuweather.com/en/severe-weather/at-least-1-dead-in-fl...
[and from another]
Flash Flooding causes Water Rescues, Road Closures across St. Louis Region
July 26. 2022
https://www.kmov.com/2022/07/26/flash-flooding-causes-evacuations-r...
Heavy rains and flash flooding impacted the St. Louis region. The Missouri Highway Patrol recommended drivers to not travel on interstates in St. Louis and St. Charles counties until after the morning commute to allow the water to recede.
[and from another]
St. Louis Flood Shows Dangerous Potential of Flood Threat to Come
July 26, 2022
https://weather.com/storms/severe/news/2022-07-26-flash-flood-forec...
Historic flooding in St. Louis is just the first chapter in a multi-day flash flood threat that extends over a broad stripe from the Appalachians to the Front Range of the Rockies due to a classic, stagnant summer weather pattern.
[and from another]
How much Rain before South Florida Floods?
September 20, 2013
sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/fl-flooding-rain-20130920-story.html
In general, two or three inches of rain per hour creates only minor street flooding. Yet if eight to 10 inches pours down in an hour or two, roads usually are severely flooded and canals overflow. 

SOZT
Early in the ZetaTalk saga we predicted alternating drought and deluge in the years preceding the Pole Shift. We knew that the Daily Earth Wobble would develop and this would be one of the results. Rain gauges showed that indeed 9” of rain fell in the St. Louis area, but was this enough to cause the level of flooding that ensued? St Louis is directly on the Mississippi River and should have easy drainage thus, especially since the Mississippi is not flooding at the current time. What would it take to overwhelm the rate of drainage such that deep and lingering flooding would result?

We have stated that the New Madrid finale
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31oc2019.htm
will occur when the rock bridge
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue685.htm
above the New Madrid area snaps.
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/28fe2022.htm
St. Louis is above this rock bridge so heaving land due to tugging to and fro on the rock bridge could slow drainage. The rock bridge is being pulled taut. This type of interference with drainage has happened before, to the extent that the Mississippi was blocked
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue575.htm
temporarily above Memphis in 2017. Heaving at the rock bridge will be intense.
EOZT

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31oc2017.htm
Heaving land was noted during the last major New Madrid adjustment, when the river was reported to run backward. Rock strata being asked to rip on a diagonal will resist, and during this resistance will bunch up to create a heave. When the pressure to rip at a diagonal is eased, due to land elsewhere moving instead, then the heave relaxes and seemingly goes back to normal. 

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31oc2019.htm
When the hard rock above New Madrid can no longer adjust by rock layers overlapping, the New Madrid Fault Line will begin to tear the hard rock. The soft rock below New Madrid will likewise rip, rather than stretch. Each segment of the fault line will be put under intense stress, and quickly fail in a domino fashion. The New Madrid Fault Line will rapidly unzip toward Chicago and then East under the Seaway.

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/28fe2022.htm
When the rock on either side of the fault at the town of New Madrid has been pulled apart such that the rock under New Madrid has become thin and lost its ability to hold the two sides together, it will rupture. 

Prior ZT: https://zetatalk.com/ning/31mr2022.htm
It is not by accident that this bridge of hard rock is found above the Ohio River juncture. It has diverted and formed the New Madrid Fault Line in the past.

[Tracie Crespo]

Hi Nancy & Zeta's - Is this worth talking about?  Are our benign friends now facilitating the speeding up of the New Madrid vs. the opposite of what was done with the humming boxes?  Most notable from NOAA is that they are looking for peoples input as to what they are.  Also notable, the depth @ 1.7 miles down & the location @ Charlie-Gibbs Fracture Zone, Mid-Atlantic Ridge, and Azores Plateau. .  Thank you as always!

https://phys.org/news/2022-07-human-noaa-weird-lines-holes.html

'They look almost human made.' NOAA finds weird lines of holes in mid-Atlantic floor

by Mark Price

Credit: NOAA

Scientists exploring a submerged mountain range in the mid-Atlantic stumbled onto something they can't explain: An organized series of holes punched in the floor of the Atlantic Ocean.

The discovery was made July 23, and photos show the dots connect into nearly straight lines ... or trails ... or designs.

NOAA Ocean Exploration isn't yet sure how to explain it.

"We observed several of these sublinear sets of holes in the sediment. These holes have been previously reported from the region, but their origin remains a mystery," NOAA Ocean Exploration reported.

"While they look almost human made, the little piles of sediment around the holes make them seem like they were excavated by ... something."

The July 23 dive reached depths of 1.7 miles while visiting the summit of an underwater volcano north of the Azores. A remotely operated camera was used to safely record the discoveries.

NOAA posted photos that show the holes were found in what is otherwise a flat sandy surface.

Scientists invited the public to offer theories, but commenters have raised more questions, including some who wondered if the holes were made by someone taking core samples.

"Is that an object or animal inside the holes? Does that line run in the same direction as the current?" Anthony Narehood asked.

"Water from underground springs?" Mike Weathersby posted.

"What about gas methane?" Eduardo Pogorelsky said.

The discovery was made as part of the Voyage to the Ridge 2022 expedition, which is exploring and mapping the "poorly understood deep water areas of the Charlie-Gibbs Fracture Zone, Mid-Atlantic Ridge, and Azores Plateau."

The Mid-Atlantic Ridge stretches 10,000 miles from north to south, and is considered "the longest mountain range in the world and one of the most prominent geological features on Earth," NOAA Ocean Exploration says.

"The majority of it sits underwater and thus much of it remains largely unexplored. With active tectonic spreading, the MAR is the site of frequent earthquakes," NOAA reports.

"Hydrothermal vents may form where magma provides heat as it rises to the seafloor. These vents are known to support diverse chemosynthetic communities. However, little is known about life at these sites once vents go extinct, or what life lies beyond the vents, further away from the rift zone."

[Nancy Lieder]

An article is today being pushed in most newspapers. The seabed is far too clear, devoid of life in the pics I've seen. With all the quakes in the region and the wobble going on I would imagine the waters to be extremely cloudy to have such clarity of what appear to be perfectly fresh/undisturbed seabed holes
[and from another]
Scientists find Mysterious Lines of Holes 1.7 Miles below the Atlantic
July 26, 2022
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-11050569/Scientists...
Explorers with the National Ocean and Atmospheric Administration found some unexplained holes on seabed 1.7 miles below the Atlantic Ocean's surface. These holes have been previously reported from the region, but their origin remains a mystery. The Mid-Atlantic Range spans the north-south length of the Atlantic Ocean and stretches for 10,000 miles, making it the longest mountain range in the world.
[and from another]
Voyage to the Ridge 2022
July 27, 2022
https://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/okeanos/explorations/22voyage-to-the...
May through September 2022, NOAA and partners will conduct Voyage to the Ridge 2022, a series of three telepresence-enabled ocean exploration expeditions on NOAA Ship Okeanos Explorer that will include mapping operations and remotely operated vehicle (ROV) dives to collect baseline information about unexplored and poorly understood deepwater areas of the Charlie-Gibbs Fracture Zone, Mid-Atlantic Ridge, and Azores Plateau.

SOZT
The Atlantic Rift has been pulling apart for eons, and is actively pulling apart at the present time. The Pacific compresses while the Atlantic widens. We have described the rupture that the New Madrid Adjustment will cause to be primarily a roll of the Africa Plate such that from the Azores on down the Atlantic Rift will be pulled apart. At the Azores, which is a tri-plate connection, the rupture will create a void that will cause the Atlantic waters propelled by the Gulf Stream to rebound toward Europe.

But the N American Plate is firmly glued to the Eurasian Plate from Japan through the Far East and thence through the Arctic and down to the Azores. It is this section under scrutiny for “mysterious holes” on the Atlantic floor. This area under scrutiny is also aligned with the tsunami bounce recorded by Buoy 44403 to the West. Though the media is being asked to pose speculation on what would cause such holes, this is actually a deliberate attempt to initiate public discussion, and thus eventually to break the cover-up over Nibiru.

Clearly, these regular holes are along the line where the N America and Eurasia plates are pulling apart. Weak points rupture, and often cleanly rupture as sheer cliff surfaces and long crevasses show. The debris on the ocean floor falls into these ruptured openings, with the regular jiggling that accompanies earthquakes creating settling on the bottom of each new crevasse. Regular wave action propels sediment to settle at regular intervals, with the spaces in between left as a gaping hole. Mystery solved.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

Tracie we crossed on the way with this Q&A. I am just now seeing your Q!

Tracie Crespo said:

Hi Nancy & Zeta's - Is this worth talking about?  

[Shaun Kazuck]

Hello:

I was wondering about this big announcement that Trump is suing CNN for defamation unless they retract EVERY lie they stated about him starting with Russiagate in 2016 through calling the 2020 election fraud the "big lie".  This document is 282 pages long!  Trump states that other news outlets will soon see similar letters.  My question is, is this part of the prep for the public to learn the truth as court cases can be slow and avoid media attention?

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-files-notice-intent-sue-c...

Thanks!

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted in the bigger context of how to expose the media and fake news all at once. 
Shaun Kazuck said:

I was wondering about this big announcement that Trump is suing CNN for defamation unless they retract EVERY lie they stated about him starting with Russiagate in 2016 through calling the 2020 election fraud the "big lie". 

This document is 282 pages long!  Trump states that other news outlets will soon see similar letters.  My question is, is this part of the prep for the public to learn the truth as court cases can be slow and avoid media attention?
[and from another]
Trump Files 'Notice of Intent' to Sue CNN over 'False Statements'
July 27, 2022
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-files-notice-intent-sue-c...
I hereby demand on behalf of President Donald Trump that CNN (1) immediately take down the false and defamatory publications, (2) immediately issue a full and fair retraction of the statements identified herein in as conspicuous a manner as they were originally published, and (3) immediately cease and desist from its continued use of 'Big Lie' and 'lying' when describing President Trump’s subjective belief regarding the integrity of the 2020 election,
[and from another]
Republicans Are Finally Learning Not to Obsess over the Corrupt Corporate Media. Good
July 27, 2022
https://thefederalist.com/2022/07/27/republicans-are-finally-learni...
The corporate media had a collective meltdown this week after realizing that the Republicans they love to bash and smear are no longer giving members of the press the benefit of the doubt. Much to their dismay, some GOPers are even refusing to engage with or acknowledge journos desperate to write hit pieces.
[and from another]
https://twitter.com/FiveTimesAugust/status/1552066481931915267?s=20...
[and from another]
Biden’s COVID Diagnosis to hurt Dems’ Electoral Health
July 25, 2022
https://www.bostonherald.com/2022/07/25/graham-bidens-covid-diagnos...
According to the White House, President Biden’s case of COVID-19 is mild and the 79-year-old Democrat is diligently toiling away. “I’m doing well, getting a lot of work done,” Biden said.
[and from another]
Tucker Carlson: Biden's COVID-19 Positive Test Steps on Vaccine Message
July 21, 2022
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-bidens-covid-19-posi...
 Just take this shot and you will not get COVID. That's guaranteed." Joe Biden said that. He didn't just say it once. He said it many, many, many times. 

SOZT
How does one counteract the massive lies put forth by the Western media? These lies are coordinated and well woven so that they seem to be based on facts. But the facts are concocted and selected. Nevertheless, the American public is fed these lies via TV and radio and print, and unless they have an inquiring mind they are firmly of the belief that Biden won the 2020 election and many booster shots for the waning Covid pandemic are needed to ensure public health.

The Washington Post shocked the world when they reversed their position about Ukraine winning
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue820.htm
last June. Might CNN suddenly reverse their stance about the 2020 election, just ahead of the American people learning of a SCOTUS decision on the matter? NOAA is inviting the public to notice that the mid-Atlantic is regularly splitting open near the Azores, when just the day before Buoy 44403 nearby registered a 180 foot tsunami. Does the establishment hope an alert public will cooperate with an evac by these means?

To avoid inciting civil war in the US, the Secret War
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue647.htm
the Junta and White Hat Alliance has been conducting has required the use of Doubles while the originals went before the Tribunals at Gitmo. One by one the Doubles are being removed from public view, but will the truth ever be known? Is it by accident that the Biden Doubles have become more than obvious, or is this deliberate to allow the American people to understand the full context of the Secret War? Secrets weigh heavy, and perhaps the leadership wants to be free of this burden.
EOZT

[Carlos Villa]

AFTER TIME GROWING: Can the Zetas give us more detail as to the growing conditions in suthern Ontario after the pole shift? I am currently growing zucchini under a tree canopy to try and mimic future growing conditions but I'm not sure if that is a good enough simulation. Can we get an indication as to how we can simulate future growing conditions so as to better prepare?

[Nancy Lieder]

Declined as I and the Zetas must care for 8 billion people and I am only one old lady. Your request is what we call "hand holding". Asking to be stepped through every aspect, etc.

We give general infomation and YOU must fill in the pieces. For instance, what will your Latitude and Longitude be? Konstantine gave us a map ((http://www.zetatalk.com/lat-long.htm). What will your elevation be? Yje 7 steps guides you through that. (http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/determine-your-safe-locations). How much sunlight a given plant species needs can be Googled. Where will your prevailing Westerlies come from? Ah, what is now North. Moiture laden? Likely due to the many lakes Canada has. 

Carlos Villa said:

AFTER TIME GROWING: 

[39mo185h7h7oi]

Eastern Kentucky is flooding while other places are experiencing flash droughts

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/kentucky-flooding-07-28-22/index.html

It was St Louis and now it's Kentucky. Kentucky will be greatly affected by the New Madrid rip. Is the ground heaving there too?

[Nancy Lieder]

Doubtful. This is in eastern Kentucky, high ground, and the flooding occurred in places named Quicksand and Lost Creek implying unsteady ground. They had 10+ inches of rain there. 

Kamil Rak said:

Eastern Kentucky is flooding while other places are experiencing flash droughts

[Nancy Lieder]

http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/tsunami-buoys-the-latest-c...
[and from another]
http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/new-madrid-unzipping-3-wee...
June 12. 2022
The Sequence of Events that will trigger the New Madrid finale is in process. On June 12 more Antarctica quakes as the Anarctic Plate pushes into the lower Atlantic, popping up with New Land there eventually. The Atlantic quakes can be seen top to bottom but most along Africa where the Africa Plate slides into the void, encouraging the Africa Roll. The tension at the rock hook under Turkey can be seen almost daily. When this snaps off Africa will drop significantly down along the Dead Sea and Red Sea, tearing open the Azores. This will trigger the New Madrid adjustment. 

SOZT
As noted on the New Madrid Unzipping blog on June 12, there is a Sequence of Events
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue818.htm
that will occur for the New Madrid Grand Finale. As the Pacific compresses it squeezes the Antarctic Plate so that it is forced to emerge between the tips of S America and Africa. This has long been predicted by us, as the reason that New Land
http://www.zetatalk6.com/poleshft/p100.htm
will emerge there during the Pole Shift. This process forces open the South Atlantic so that Africa can slip into the void, allowing Africa’s top portion to roll to the East.

This has been in process but is held back by a rock hook that projects under Turkey, preventing Africa from dropping. Quakes are apparent near Greece where the rock hook must snap. Is this process gradually happening? As Africa rolls, it ruptures the tri-plate juncture at the Azores where the N American Plate, the Eurasian Plate, and the African Plate touch. Once the rock hook under Turkey starts to give way, and the Azores start to rupture, the New Madrid Grand Finale is highly vulnerable to the ongoing Severe Earth Wobble.

We noted in our comments on Buoy 44403 that the 180 foot rise and fall recorded there on July 24 should be considered a tsunami preview. Now just days later on July 29 we have Buoy 44402 showing waves. Buoy 44402 is also on the same Latitude as the Azores. The New Madrid Fault Line has separated from the Isthmus of Tehuantepec up through the Gulf to New Orleans and thence along the lower Mississippi River. There it seemed to stall some months ago but is again being tugged to separate up along the Mississippi. The finale is close.
EOZT