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Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 78 years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

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It appears in October 2018, a new type of aurora was discovered.  Instead of being vertical waves, these ones spread out across the sky horizontally.  The article uses the same falsehood on the origin of these phenomena they always have.  My question is, is this change related to the increasing influence of Planet X, and if so, how?


Accepted based on Alberto's latest photo. 

How close will the Lomonosov petrol balls come to the surface of the Earth? In February, 2019 they were landing on the surface of the upper atmosphere and appeared as pale orange balls in Alberto’s photos. Then in January, 2020 they returned both in Alberto’s photos and in other amateur photos. They showed up exploding in the inner atmosphere in Ohio skies on January 14 – not lightning or a meteor. Now Alberto’s photos are showing an alarming trend. They seem to be coming closer, more hot. How bad will this get?
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Red-Orange Flash Reported in Skies above Clermont County: ‘I thought it was an Explosion’
January 14, 2020
The colors in the sky are red and orange with a little pink and purple too. Clermont County Emergency Management had no explanation but did hear from plenty of people reporting the flash. Bethel Police had the same response. According to Duke Energy 584 customers lost power for two minutes. We also asked an astronomer if this could be a meteor. He says no because a meteor would flash above the clouds rather than below. As for lightning, the nearest strike was hundreds of miles away.
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The petrol in the tail of Nibiru has manifested as neon clouds or, as in the case of the neon swirl in Norway, as a bright swirl
twisting to the ground. The moons in the tail of Nibiru are in a gravity dance, and thus cling to Nibiru, being at a distance no farther than 5 million miles from Nibiru. Debris tends to be thicker and heavier near Nibiru or the moons, and thin toward the end of the tail. Petrol bubbles are not controlled by gravity, and just as oil floats on water and just as methane gas rises high in the atmosphere, will seek to stay high in the Earth’s atmosphere.

What then causes the neon clouds to descend, and what caused the lower atmosphere explosions seen in Clermont County? The petrol bubbles are chasing ahead of the rest of the tail trash, in essence trying to stay ABOVE the density of the trash. They would prefer to stay above Earth’s atmosphere, but during a heavy tail swipe, are caught between these two forces, and take the less dense route. More petrol bubble explosions can be anticipated, which will be excused as a type of lightning strike, accompanied by electrical disturbance.

Accepted, but it will probably be Tuesday before this is addressed. I have my monthly Homeland Security Hour show tomorrow, and produced a new YouTube from that promptly. 

Shaun Kazuck said:

It appears in October 2018, a new type of aurora was discovered. 

Instead of being vertical waves, these ones spread out across the sky horizontally.  The article uses the same falsehood on the origin of these phenomena they always have.  My question is, is this change related to the increasing influence of Planet X, and if so, how?  
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A new aurora? Researchers say 'the dunes' aren't like the usual lights in the sky
October 7, 2018
In October 2018, several aurora enthusiasts who regularly photograph the shimmering lights noticed something unusual. Where the lights of regular auroras are typically arranged vertically to create a rippling, curtain-like effect, the skywatchers instead saw luminous green arcs structured horizontally and extending hundreds of miles toward the horizon. In addition to their horizontal alignment, the lights appeared to undulate like a wave in the night sky.
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Mysterious ribbons of light dubbed 'Steve' are NOT auroras
August 20, 2018
STEVE was initially given its name in honor of the 2006 film Over the Hedge, and the title was later accepted in the scientific community as a ‘backronym,’ standing for Strong Thermal Emission Velocity Enhancement.

Early in the ZetaTalk saga we explained that Auroras
were caused by light rays being bent by the Earth’s Gravity Field. Where gravity particle flows have many aspects poorly understood by mankind, such as the Repulsion Force
where accumulated gravity particles explode outward from a gravity sink, a Gravity Field emerges at the poles
and returns at the Equator. Mankind’s probes have established this Gravity Field shape, modeled as a potato shape for the Earth, but mankind clings to the notion that Auroras are caused by magnetons emerging or returning to the poles.

In 2006 a new Aurora phenomenon emerged - a skyglow near the Equator which was dubbed STEVE.
While theories and speculation abounded, mankind remained tangled up in confusion because they could not switch from the magnetic theory to our gravity explanation. How could the large gravity sink represented by Nibiru, which is 23 times as massive as the Earth, cause increased skyglow? As is well known, light rays bend easily, as anyone looking at their feet while standing in water knows. Prisms are another such proof.

When two gravity sinks are in the same vicinity, a dance ensues. A single gravity sink dominates to form a single Gravity Field. This is a complicated symphony where the repetitive Repulsion Force is a drum beat but the steady flow of gravity particles downward toward the center of the gravity sink is a lilting soprano. Amidst this is a throbbing chorus of gravity particles flowing into and out of the center of the gravity sink. While still afar, the Gravity Field of Nibiru is interfering with Earth’s Gravity Field, creating discord.

If Auroras at the poles are light rays flowing with emerging gravity particles then what is the STEVE skyglow? Just as the Earth has lower and upper atmosphere levels, a Gravity Field likewise has levels of intensity. We stated that Nibiru is creating conflicting directives. The gravity particle flow normally involved with the Earth symphony is now being diverted, such that the particles returning to Earth’s center linger at the Earth’s gravity troposphere, undulating. Where the gravity particles linger, they bend light rays, which also appear to undulate. Thus this new phenomenon, still being called an Aurora.

Prior 1995 ZT:
The Auroras are caused by refraction, a refraction not thought possible as no light seems to enter on the dark side of the Earth. Little understood by humans is the degree to which energy particles are affected by gravitational pulls. And what has caused these light rays to be deflected at this point, to become Northern or Southern Lights, and why no other point on the globe? In fact, they are being deflected elsewhere around the globe, but are not visible because of the greater traffic in bright light. The Northern or Southern Lights, happening at the equator, are lost in the glare.

Prior 2002 ZT:
Like magnetism, gravity flows are not universal about a body, but have a field. This is not widely noted, as it is slight, but has been noted recently in the discovery by mankind’s probes that the Earth's middle would seem to be fatter, gravity wise, though no shape has changed. 

Prior ZT:
Mankind is puzzled by STEVE as they cling to the notion that the Auroras are caused by light rays being bent by magnetism. We stated at the start of the ZetaTalk saga that this was wrong. The light rays are being bent by gravity particle flows, which form a field around the globe similar to the Earth’s magnetic field. Where the magnetic field emerges from the N Pole and returns at the S Pole, the gravity field emerges at both poles and returns at the Equator.  Nibiru is enveloping the Earth’s gravity field into its own, thus light rays in the vicinity of Earth have conflicting directives. Where the Auroras are vertical ribbons, STEVE has horizontal ribbons of light, aligning with the gravity field of Nibiru, not the gravity field of Earth!

Hi Nancy and Zetas,

1) Could the Zetas say what is happening in Iowa? This is a complete failure for the Democrats. It is hard to imagine that Trump will not win the election. The only threat to him is a large-scale financial crisis that is about to happen.

2) Does the Trump team have a plan in case of a financial crisis? In the past, this killed the chances of a victory for the president. And Trump, of course, is not to blame (with the exception of the growing budget deficit)

Thank you very much

Accepted for the Iowa caucus. Declined for financial commentary as the last few times we addressed all this, no change.  

Stanislav said:

Could the Zetas say what is happening in Iowa? This is a complete failure for the Democrats. It is hard to imagine that Trump will not win the election. 

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Shadow, a tech firm that describes itself as a group that creates "a permanent advantage for progressive campaigns and causes through technology," is the company that created the Iowa Democratic Party's app. At least the COO, CEO, CTO and a senior product manager at Shadow all worked for the Hillary Clinton presidential campaign.
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An app created by a tech firm run by veterans of Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign is taking heat for the unprecedented delay in reporting Democratic caucus results from Iowa. State Democratic Party Chairman Troy Price blamed the problem on a coding error. The firm behind the app reportedly is Shadow, an affiliate of ACRONYM, a Democratic nonprofit founded in 2017. In addition to the tech systems being used to tabulate results, we are also using photos of results and a paper trail to validate that all results match.
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Acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf said that Iowa Democrats refused when the department’s Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency offered to test the app to ensure its security.
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The Sanders campaign reported that it received 29.7 percent of the vote, closely followed by former South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg at 24.6 percent. Sen. Elizabeth Warren came in at 21.2 percent, and former Vice President Joe Biden was fourth at 12.4 percent. 
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The 2020 Iowa Democratic primary caucus disaster was not a “coding error”, as claimed by the Iowa Democratic Party Chairman. Was the code not tested? There are many clues that this was a rigged election that blew up in front of the whole world. First there was the odd Des Moines Register poll withheld from publication. The excuse was a flawed survey, perhaps leaving off one of the candidates. How likely is this? The survey was withheld as it showed the true ranking of Biden, which the crooked DNC is pushing to be the front runner.

Then there is the aspect of the new software application, designed to ensure that photos of the paper trail matched the results reported. Coded by a software company born during the 2016 Hillary campaign, the code to switch votes to Biden was supposed to smoothly and simultaneously corrupt the paper trail photos. Thus any complaints by caucus goers who had recorded a different result were to be silenced. Of course Shadow and the Iowa Democratic Party declined Homeland Security assistance to vet the software.

What went wrong? The software was not hacked by human hands, but was hacked by ourselves, the Service-to-Other Zetas, just as we have assisted the integrity of all US elections since 2006.
Software code is, after all, just binary data, such that changing a few bits of key bytes can disable the code. Our goal was to cause any deletion of voting data to falter, so that the counts and the paper trail did not match. This froze the election fraud in the middle of a crime, before the evidence of a crime could be wiped away. The actual results have now been collected from the caucus managers.

Accepted via email: 

It seems it's much more dangerous than they pretend. Can we have updates please?
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To me there are similarities to when we had the concern regarding the spread of the Ebola strain. Which according to a nurse who was also following it on that forum, pointed out the eating habits=PH levels between Africans and Europeans, which negated the spread. Which can of course relate to the differences in DNA between different cultures, and the vitamin deficiency/differences which occur? Weaponizing a virus strain?
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Can the Zetas comment on the veracity/potential truth of the below report?
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How Coronaviruses Cause Infection—from Colds to Deadly Pneumonia
February 5, 2020
In 2003, when the pathogen behind the SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome) outbreak in China was identified as a coronavirus.  In 2012, when another virus jumped from camels to humans, causing MERS (Middle East respiratory syndrome).  SARS, MERS and the new coronavirus almost certainly all originated in bats. The most recent analysis of the 2019-nCoV genome found it shares 96 percent of its RNA with a coronavirus previously identified in a specific bat species in China. But there were no bats being sold at the animal market in Wuhan, China, where the current outbreak is thought to have begun, suggesting an intermediate host species was likely involved. The SARS virus binds to a receptor called ACE2, and MERS binds to one called DPP4—both are found in lung cells. Analysis of 2019-nCoV strongly suggests the new virus, like SARS, uses ACE2 to gain entry to cells. 
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Single-Cell RNA Expression Profiling of ACE2, the Putative Receptor of Wuhan 2019-nCov
January 26, 2020
2019-nCov was reported to share the same receptor, Angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2), with SARS-Cov.  A comparison between eight individual samples demonstrated that the Asian male has an extremely large number of ACE2-expressing cells in the lung.  Severe infection by 2019-nCov could result in acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS) and sepsis, causing death in approximately 15% of infected individuals. The Asian donor (male) has a much higher ACE2-expressing cell ratio than white and African American donors (2.50% vs. 0.47% of all cells). This might explain the observation that the new Coronavirus pandemic and previous SARS-Cov pandemic are concentrated in the Asian area.
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New Evidence Emerges: Coronavirus “Bioweapon” might have been a Chinese Vaccine Experiment gone Wrong. Genes Contain pShuttle-SN Sequences, proving Laboratory Origin
February 2, 2020
An analysis of the gene sequence for the coronavirus finds a peculiar sequence called “pShuttle-SN.” This sequence is is the remnant of a genetic engineering sequence that’s used to insert genes into viruses and bacteria. It provides irrefutable “open source” proof that the coronavirus now circulating in the wild was engineered in a laboratory. This genomic evidence does not, however, prove whether it was produced as a bioweapon or as a vaccine experiment. 
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Uncanny Similarity of Unique Inserts in the 2019-nCoV Spike Protein to HIV-1 gp120 and Gag
January 30, 2020
We found 4 insertions in the spike glycoprotein (S) which are unique to the 2019-nCoV and are not present in other coronaviruses. Importantly, amino acid residues in all the 4 inserts have identity or similarity to those in the HIV1 gp120 or HIV-1 Gag. The finding of 4 unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV, all of which have identity /similarity to amino acid residues in key structural proteins of HIV-1 is unlikely to be fortuitous in nature.
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Coronavirus Spread to Humans 'through Illegally-Trafficked Pangolins'
February 7, 2020
The deadly Coronavirus outbreak in China could have spread from bats to humans through the illegally-trafficked pangolin. Pangolins are the world’s only scaly mammals, and prized in Asia for food and medicine.  They are believed to be one of the world's most trafficked mammal, accounting for as much as 20% of all illegal wildlife trade. Although protected by international law, illegal trafficking is rife because pangolin meat is considered a delicacy in countries such as China.
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China Virus Crisis Deepens as Whistleblower Doctor Dies
February 6, 2020
Researchers at the South China Agricultural University have identified the endangered pangolin as a "potential intermediate host" for the disease, as the genome sequences of viruses found on the scaly mammal are 99 percent identical to those on coronavirus patients.
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Snakes Could Be the Original Source of the New Coronavirus Outbreak in China
January 22, 2020
The researchers used an analysis of the protein codes favored by the new coronavirus and compared it to the protein codes from coronaviruses found in different animal hosts, like birds, snakes, marmots, hedgehogs, manis, bats and humans. Surprisingly, they found that the protein codes in the 2019-nCoV are most similar to those used in snakes. Snakes often hunt for bats in wild. Reports indicate that snakes were sold in the local seafood market in Wuhan, raising the possibility that the 2019-nCoV might have jumped from the host species—bats—to snakes and then to humans at the beginning of this coronavirus outbreak.
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The evolution of HIV-1 and the origin of AIDS
August 27, 2010
The source of HIV-1 group M, the main form of AIDS virus infecting humans, has been traced to a virus infecting the central subspecies of chimpanzees.

We stated when the Wuhan coronavirus 2019-nCoV first emerged that this was not a weaponized or genetically engineered virus, but naturally emerging. There is no way to definitely prove or disprove either premise, because nature mutates and mixes virus material faster and more adroitly than man. Reports emerge that it seems the Wuhan virus took a trip through a snake,
or shares 99% of the virus found on the mammalian pangolin
but that 96% of its RNA is shared with China’s bat population.

A trip to the wet markets of Wuhan, where the guts and blood of various species are spilled on the floor to flow into the drainage system and thence back into the wildlife pool, shows how a virus mix and mutation could occur. The normal barriers that nature provides are broken down. A snake may eat a bat, and a pangolin may inadvertently eat the droppings of both, but the floor and drain of a wet market is introducing the virus populations of many species at a rate that nature could never match.

What does it mean, when multiple HIV-1 inserts
are discovered in the 2019-nCoV? This is asserted as proof of genetic engineering, because the HIV-1 comes from a chimp,
not found in China. Where would this sequence come from? Man, of course, an HIV infected human, as HIV is now resident in every human culture around the world. In the wet markets of Wuhan, a virus could move from live produce to a vendor and thence to yet another species of live produce, mutating and adapting freely.

Hi Nancy and Zetas,

A recent outbreak of coronavirus has shown how fragile human society is. A small pandemic and a global economy are on the brink of crisis and the government is rapidly losing credibility. Coronavirus also shows that the totalitarian management model does not work, although it seemed that it was precisely at such times of crisis that such a model should justify itself. In truth, I think we would have such a result in any other country, regardless of the political system.
Truly major earth changes have not even begun, and the economy is already destroyed. But what happens if an earthquake of magnitude 9 hits Sumatra and causes a tsunami now? Especially recently, we have some problems with large earthquakes according to statistics. Earthquakes Mag>9:
  • 1952 Kamchatka, 1960 Chile, 1964 Alaska
  • 2004 Sumatra, 2011 Japan

I think that we are not yet fully aware of this.

9 February, 2020. Death of whistleblower ignites calls for political reform in China
9 February, 2020. The coronavirus outbreak has exposed the deep flaws of Xi’s autocracy
8 February, 2020. Fear and panic can do more harm than the coronavirus, says PM Lee Hsien Loong

Thank you very much

I and the Zetas are replying to your valid concerns by pointing you to past ZetaTalk. When ZetaTalk first went on the web in 1995, over 20 years ago, these were issues that people brought up and they were address in ZetaTalk. But ZetaTalk is vast, so much written, so gets overlooked. Much of the quotes below are found in the Transformation section. Banks will fail, barter system replace it. Martial Law everywhere. Forced labor into the fields. Price fixing and controlled distribution of foods. Starvation rampant. Fat people refused food. Bankruptcy and failing companies everywhere. Gangs resisted by survival groups. Demands on governments result in riots result in martial law. Organized religion continues to fail and fade. Survival groups who cooperate and care for each other are the future.   

2002 ZT on Economic Collapse:

We anticipate a real impact where storms and quakes take out cities, insurance companies fail, and the government must step in or the homeless population increase. Those countries where the population is allowed to die, starve, get diseased and lay by the roadside in this state, will simply continue this practice. Those countries where the government is expected to step in and rescue tax payers thrown into this state will muster forth troops, supplies, and mostly promises. Thus, families will be thrown on the good graces of their neighbors, the extended family, co-workers, or philanthropic individuals. This is a precursor to the situation that will exist after the shift, so get used to it. The market is still artificially upheld, but panic will eventually take over. The need to simply survive, to meet payroll, and greed, the desire to have a quarterly profit bonus delivered, will cause individual actions that bump into each other, causing what we will call a plunge. What will be the trigger bringing this house of cards down? A panic of selling could occur. This can be stopped, the Market closed, but this is an obvious move. We have predicted some years ago, in late 1999, that price fixing, a freeze, might occur. But if the Earth changes are wide spread, across the West and East coasts of the US and Canada, for instance, affecting simultaneously the UK and western Europe, as well as Japan, this might be out of control. Thus, is it not manmade happenstance that will create the panic, but the Earth changes that will not stop, that could.


2014 ZT on Martial Law:

Martial Law will not be imposed automatically, but in stages. Earthquakes and tidal waves and crop shortages will begin to alarm the populace who will make strident demands on their governments, and when they discover that no solutions are being offered to them, rioting will indeed begin. Cities do not feed themselves, but rural areas do produce food and can be encouraged or forced to shift to produce that which is less lucrative but would feed more people. Hong Kong, as with New York City or London, has a massive population almost completely divorced from farming skills and knowledge. What to do with these citizens? Told to march into the fields and pick up a hoe, to eat bugs and tasteless vegetables when they are used to cuisine, they will argue and fuss. Their governments have few choices. Forced labor camps is one solution, and forced labor camps imply Martial Law. Another alternative is to blockade exit from the cities until the citizenry starves, resorts to cannibalism, and dies off. When watching the incremental march toward Martial Law, consider what choices the establishment has. They are few!


2008 ZT on Starvation:

This class of citizen - the formerly well fed - does not slide quietly or quickly into the stance of their chronically starved neighbors. They know about the underclass, the chronically underfed, but have never imagined themselves forced into these straits. In horror, they see themselves unable to afford enough food for good health, despite cutting back all budgetary items possible, so panic is just under the surface and explodes into hysteria with every rise in food prices. What are governments to do when a formerly quiet portion of the populace becomes noisy and hysterical? Price controls are one avenue, but even with price controls the shortages will continue and increase due to the worsening weather extremes we have so long predicted. In the US, soup kitchens are threatened as the US government cuts back on handouts of surplus food items. There are no surplus items, or they are fast disappearing. New rules are likely to be instituted everywhere. Those who are obese will be encouraged to diet, perhaps given only vitamin pills and minimum protein such as a few boiled eggs per day. Grains fed to cattle will be diverted to human consumption. All idle fields will be put into production. And of course price control instituted to prevent panic among those who can no longer afford to buy food. But in those countries where such measures cannot be instituted because there simply is not enough food to go around, riot control will be used. Those who ignored their chronically underfed neighbors, the underclass they took for granted were always beneath them, will now join them, a type of karma, so to speak.


2004 ZT on Gangs:

Brutality, genocide, and virtual slavery in economically depressed areas - all exist today because somewhere in the world food is being grown, products are being manufactured, and commerce flows. The pole shift brings an abrupt halt to that. All travel is impeded, fuel runs short so that even a means as flexible as the helicopter comes to a halt. Manufactured parts for maintenance are lacking, and the broken link effect sets in, machinery abandoned and rusting in disuse. Eventually, survivor groups that remain are hard at work, all growing or catching their food and cooperating heavily with each other. The occasional lone thug is encountered and either runs for his life to live in the woods on his own, with survival very iffy, or is killed attempting to loot the hard working group. A group that is keeping starvation at bay by intense cooperation and careful planning recognizes instantly those that are doing likewise, and also recognizes instantly a group that has survived by looting. There are a thousand clues. 


1996 ZT on Organized Religion:

The trend toward tolerance and open mindedness does not incline one toward rigidities and the acceptance of authority that organized religions rely upon. Where there are enclaves of control, as within Islamic states, the rest of the world has shown a steady trend toward free thinking and independence from the mandates that organized religions impose. What does this mean for the church? Shrinking membership means shrinking profits, but for many organized religions this does not represent a pinch as the numbers interested in devoting their lives as free workers to an organized religion are also shrinking. The Catholic church has long had a much underreported exodus from the priesthood and nunneries, and other religions with rigid doctrines have experienced similar trends. Thus, where the corridors of power are still filled with the same iron grip of the power hungry, the empire they rule continues to shrink.


1999 ZT on Wealthy Elite:

The wealthy elite are sitting on top of the pile and are not interested in losing this position. They have heard, either through innuendo or through their own paid research, that the coming cataclysms are very real. They try to imagine where they’ll be if the banks aren’t solid and they can’t just snap their fingers and order the services they need and intimidate people based on their money. Heaven forbid they should be leveled to the rest of the populace and have to grovel and scratch! They can’t have that! They are trying to figure out what they can do. In the past they could rely on the court system, which is in the main their friend, or large corporations which can threaten to fire or harass those failing to cooperate with the wealthy elite. And of course they have bought politicians right and left. What are they to do if all of this is aside, and they are just standing there with their useless paper money and their store of goods? Even if they hire people to guard them, that only goes so far. 

Stanislav said:

A recent outbreak of coronavirus has shown how fragile human society is.

Oh Lord, it is but a tiny part of the whole message. The home page paragraph, with links, has been there for 24 years, since Jan 1995. There are, by some countes, 10,000 or more pages of ZetaTalk material. We have a search engine to help the public find what they are looking for. I intend to feature my reply to Stan in a near future Newsletter, with a catchy title, so it will pop up on searches too.   

toekneetogo said:

Your opening paragraph could be placed on your website homepage Nancy, a concise representation of the message you're wanting to share regarding your perspective of our evolving surroundings and human society

Accepted via email: 

What is causing these hurricane force winds?
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Mr MBB Hawaii 136 mph winds
I'm telling you, up here in Glacier Montana we recorded record breaking winds last week. We registered 68 mph here in Missoula. But the Glacier winds were unearthly! … I'm from the Netherland. That Jumbostorm you showed and headed to New Foundland was also crossing the Atlantic Ocean to UK and Europe. Because she was a severe storm they named her Ciara. … Storm Ciara produced wind gusts of just over 100 mph along Parts of the English south coast last Sunday.
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What is causing all this high wind? The jet streams are lowering! Normally they reside are 250 hPa (mb) level, but they are now dipping into upper mountain regions and in some cases, even lower! Winds are going to keep getting worse!   

At the start of the ZetaTalk saga we predicted the weather changes – unexpected extremes in temperature, intractable drought or deluge switching about for no reason, snow in summer, turbulence in the jet stream,
and an eventual blending of the seasons. We attributed all these effects to the Daily Earth Wobble, which does a Figure 8 daily
and thus forces the globe under the Jet Stream in all directions in an erratic and unpredictable manner. These gyrations are of record,
and defy explanation with attempts to align the changes with Global Warming or Solar Cycles.

The wobble has gotten worse, as will be the case for Planet Earth as it heads into the coming passage. The sling to the right and left - a lean to the East and then to the West - affects the winds that travel across the Atlantic, such that hurricane force winds are creating snow bombs
in Newfoundland and Iceland and hurricanes landing on the coastlines of France and Spain. Is the Jet Stream dropping lower? This supposition has been floated since 2005
in an attempt to explain the changes in the weather.

As we explained, the rapid sling to the right or left creates turbulence in the atmosphere, which tears above the Stratosphere so that sudden adjustments must occur. High and low pressure differences are exacerbated during this tearing, and thus the increased hurricane behavior. These wobble storms are more prevalent in the Northern Hemisphere because it is the magnetic N Pole which is pushed back and forth, or side to side, during the wobble. The magnetic S Pole remains relatively fixed.

Prior 2005 ZT:
We have stressed, at the very start of the ZetaTalk saga, that the weather would get increasingly extreme, with droughts and deluges occurring and switching about in an unpredictable manner, and that this included unpredictable changes in the jet stream. The weatherman has historically offered predictions, but these predictions have become increasingly difficult, in part because of the Earth wobble which jerks the Earth about under her mantel of air, often at cross currents to the jet stream.  The turbulence in the volatile atmosphere is in response to sudden changes in the direction of flow, due to an increasingly violent Earth wobble. More of this will follow, as the Earth wobble is not going away or lessening its grip.

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Tartaria has been on my mind for some months now and has recently piqued again with this article and video. I have searched ZT but wasn't able to find any remarks on Tartaria/Tartars. Is it a topic that the Zetas would shed any light on? Searching on the net gives scant results on what appears to be a very advanced empire, race, with dome topped buildings and conical builds which are thought to be communication receivers/antenna. I think I read somewhere that church roofs made of lead were also similar devices at a later date than the Tartars. I'm certainly curious as to whether a whole part of history has been glossed over/rehashed and why.
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[and from another]
Tartary - an Empire hidden in history. It was bigger than Russia once
April 1 7, 2018
Tartary, a vast country in the northern parts of Asia, bounded by Siberia on the north and west: this is called Great Tartary. The Tartars who lie south of Muscovy and Siberia, are those of Astracan, Circassia, and Dagistan, situated north-west of the Caspian-sea; the Calmuc Tartars, who lie between Siberia and the Caspian-sea; the Usbec Tartars and Moguls, who lie north of Persia and India; and lastly, those of Tibet, who lie north-west of China. The official history is hiding a major world power which existed as late as the 19th century. Tartary was a country with its own flag, its own government and its own place on the map. Its territory was huge, but somehow quietly incorporated into Russia, and some other countries. This country you can find on the maps predating the second half of the 19th century.
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Tartary’s map of Putin: what West travellers saw in alien countries?
January 2, 2017
How often did Tartary appeared on the maps of the European travellers? The map illustrates the territory of North-East of Eurasia from the Volga River and the Caspian Sea in the West, to the ocean in the East. The whole territory of Siberia, Central Asia and the Far East is shown as under the authority of the great khan. The territory, formerly known as Tartary, in the modern European tradition is called Central Eurasia. Europe learned about the Tatars during the invasion of the troops of Genghis Khan and his descendants. However, until the 19th century, information about them and about their countries remained extremely scarce and fragmentary. 

Did the Mongolian Empire encompass Russia, China, and Turkey as some ancient maps proclaim? The Mongols carried Annunaki blood,
as the facial structure of present day Mongols and ancient Tibetan mummies attest. The Annunaki were forceful and ambitious, so carrying Annunaki blood Genghis Khan roared toward Europe in an attempt to expand his domain. Where the Mongols were dominant in the past in the region ascribed on ancient maps to Tartary, their empire imploded when these areas became more populous, their great leaders such as Genghis Khan unable to maintain control.

The mystique of the Tartary Empire has generated conspiracy theories because the footsteps of the Annunaki are ascribed to the Tartars. Of course the Annunaki built structures and had grand cities where they were in residence. Atlantis was one such city, and the Aztecs in Central America also held another Annunaki city. The Mongols likewise held a city inhabited by the Annunaki, but unless working as servants in these cities, the Mongols were not residents. The Annunaki were chased from Earth by a quarantine the Council of Worlds imposed. Atlantis, a city just off the coast of Portugal,
was destroyed at that time, and the Annunaki destroyed all the rest of their cities to keep mankind from adopting their technologies.

Prior ZT:
In the past Genghis Khan and Hitler and Stalin and the Khmer Rouge and the Argentina junta (so beloved of Thatcher and Kissinger) and even the Bush era in Iraq had long lives for their campaigns.

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What is behind Jeff Bezos giving 10 billion dollars to fight climate change?
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Jeff Bezos Pledges $10 Billion to Fight Climate Change, Planet's 'Biggest Threat'
February 17, 2020
Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos announced he is committing $10 billion to fight climate change, which he calls "the biggest threat to our planet." Bezos says the funds will go toward the creation of the Bezos Earth Fund. "This global initiative will fund scientists, activists, NGOs — any effort that offers a real possibility to help preserve and protect the natural world.” 

A year ago Bezos was busy handing his soon-to-be ex-wife half his fortune, to shelter these funds
from a possible confiscation by the Tribunals. Bezos, entrapped by the CIA in the past with blackmail material, had cooperated with human and drug traffic via his container shipments. Now, having given his ex 40 billion, Bezos is left with a paltry 130 billion and he is feeling insecure again. Technically, under EO 13818
the Tribunals can seize it all. By granting his Earth Fund 10 billion, what does Bezos buy?

Technically, these are not his funds, so he can employ himself and fund new Bezos endeavors via the Earth Fund. Using a foundation or trust fund to shelter a personal fortune and use it for personal means is certainly not a new concept. The Clinton Foundation is a model of money laundering and corruption and crime being run under the auspice of a humanitarian foundation. It provided 5% of its proceeds to charity, and the rest for personal Clinton use. The Clinton Foundation funds were seized by the Tribunals, leaving an empty shell behind. Bezos Earth Fund beware.

Prior ZT:
Is the Bezos divorce an attempt to shield much of the Bezos family wealth, estimated at 135 billion at present, from confiscation by Trump’s Junta? What crimes would be involved? Amazon has an international reach, importing goods from overseas and shipping goods throughout. What crimes are involved? Drugs, young children for Moloch sacrifice, and illegal immigrants, all of which can be ported about in shipping containers and housed at Amazon warehouses. Bezos per se is not a fan of any of this traffic, but the CIA secures cooperation by blackmail. An aging man with waning sexual prowess is often tempted by younger and younger partners, as they are less intimidating and less judgmental. The sense that the man is in control and powerful is enhanced. Having secured the cooperation of Bezos, the CIA set to using his company and fortunes. Among the unsealed indictments awaiting tribunals are those which would seize the Bezos fortune. By putting as much as possible into his wife’s hands, the couple hopes to minimize the damage.


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