ZetaTalk Chat for December 31, 2021

[Nancy Lieder]

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1. No personal counseling is done.This rule has been in place since 1996. Questions should be of broad interest to the general public.
2. Correlation or resolution of ZetaTalk with the work of other channels or authors is not done unless they predict and have a prediction accuracy track record, as otherwise they are not a peer of ZetaTalk which does so. This rule has been in place since 2002. Just because another website or author makes a statement does not make that statement true, nor will the Zetas explain to you why their statements are not true, as then they are taking time out to address the issue.
3. The Zetas, as all visitors, are under rules on how they interact with humanity. They are not here to rescue you. They cannot divert Planet X just as today they do not prevent droughts or floods. The Earth is mankind’s schoolhouse whereby he learns to help his fellow man.
4. The date of the pole shift cannot be given, but the sequence of events can be given. [ Link ] Check the ning pinned discussions and blogs for such information as the 7 of 10, the last weeks, etc.

Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 78 years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email: 

This double helix cannot have a connection to the wheels Ezekiel saw because he saw the wheels of a space vehicle, probably of Anunnaki. And, this "wheel" is of the Nibiru Complex. What Ezekiel saw must have been different than this cross in a circle. Will that - this specific cross in a circle - be visible in the sky by the naked eye? And when? Ezekiel is from some 6 or so century BC, and this was seen 1700 years BC. So Ezekiel cannot have any connection with this in the sky.
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http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue681.htm
[and from another]
Ezekiel 1:14 to 18 
https://biblia.com/bible/esv/ezekiel/1/14-18
14 And the living creatures darted to and fro, like the appearance of a flash of lightning. 15 Now as I looked at the living creatures, I saw a wheel on the earth beside the living creatures, one for each of the four of them. 16 As for the appearance of the wheels and their construction: their appearance was like the gleaming of beryl. And the four had the same likeness, their appearance and construction being as it were a wheel within a wheel. 17 When they went, they went in any of their four directions without turning as they went. 18 And their rims were tall and awesome, and the rims of all four were full of eyes all around. 
[and from another]
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue628.htm

SOZT
Ezekiel's wheel within a wheel vision was referring to these times when the Planet of the Crossing symbol is being seen in the skies by those looking closely at the Nibiru Complex. We stated in 2019
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/30sp2019.htm
when the issue of Ezekiel's wheel was seen worldwide in UFO displays that this UFO display was directed at those who would understand the Biblical context of Ezekiel. These are the clues that his vision relates to the current times.

* Ezekiel was a prophet who predicted destruction and restoration, such as the Pole Shift will bring.

* Ezekiel refers to the return of fish (living creatures darted to and fro) to the Dead Sea, (http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue628.htm) which has happened recently in 2016 and is a result of 7 of 10 pressure on the Saudi Plate.

* Ezekiel refers to the stability of the wheel, such that the rim could turn in all directions (they went in any of their four directions) without points on the rim needing to change their orientation. No matter which way the N Pole of Nibiru points - up, down, or to either side - the Double Helix retains its stability.

* Ezekiel refers to eyes all around the rim of the wheel, (and the rims of all four were full of eyes all around) which is what many minor moons trailing in the trash behind one of the Dominant Moons would present, when close enough to be visible from Earth.

* Ezekiel refers to a wheel within a wheel (appearance and construction being as it were a wheel within a wheel) which is what the appearance would be if the Double Helix were not in a straight-line view from Earth.
EOZT

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/30sp2019.htm
This circular UFO display has been used around the world, though always to those who would understand its meaning in the Biblical context of Ezekiel. The Ezekiel wheel vision is often interpreted to be the Astrology chart, so that the 4 creatures are understood to be the four solstice or equinox points and thus the 12 lights in the recent UFO displays are understood to be the 12 months in the Gregorian calendar.  What telepathic message is being relayed to those who see this display? The wheel clearly relays a sense of time. Ezekiel is known as a prophet who predicted destruction and restoration. He scolded those who did not take the right path. This is certainly what the coming Pole Shift will bring. The Earth will be ravaged by earthquakes and high tides, such that coastal regions will be washed away, the inhabitants drown, and modern infrastructure ruined. No grid, no food distribution, no communication. Take heed to warnings, as the world of the future holds promise. 

[Stanislav]

Hi Nancy and Zetas,

Looking at the government's actions, I start to think that they pose an even bigger problem than the Pole Shift. Nancy once addressed the issue of genocide in one of her newsletters:

http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue395.htm

https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE1.HTM

https://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/pol116/genocides.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Book_of_Communism

According to research by Rudolph Rummel, the state killed 170 million people in the 20th century! Although many researchers say that these numbers are grossly overestimated.

The Zetas have predicted martial law and forced labor camps in every country in the world. Obviously, this could end in genocide. So how far will it go? Should we expect literally hundreds of millions of people to be shot?

Thank you very much

[Nancy Lieder]

Declined as this is in the hands of man, and as the Zetas so often say, thus cannot be predicted.  There are almost 8 billion people on Earth and all of them have an agenda. No blanket answers possible. I addressed work camps in my Newsletters (http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue425.htm) and stressed that if people do not want to go there, then they should start saving seed and the like! As the Zetas said, the governments will have NO CHOICE if there is starvation in the citizenry. There is a lot of ZT in the /govmt/ section. Even though these early ZT pieces were written up to 25 years ago, they still apply. 

The Zeta talk about ... which way the Bureaucrats might run; whether Martial Law or Martial Law Attempts or Strongarm Tactics or Travel Restrictions  ... and Tagging Citizens  ...  Who Knows and Muzzling the Media a concern ...  why the approach of Planet X is an Impossible Message  ... 

http://www.zetatalk.com/govmt/g104.htm 

http://www.zetatalk.com/govmt/g134.htm

http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta383.htm

http://www.zetatalk.com/govmt/g156.htm

http://www.zetatalk.com/govmt/g181.htm

http://www.zetatalk.com/govmt/g194.htm

http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta72.htm

http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta182.htm

http://www.zetatalk.com/govmt/g85.htm

Stanislav said:

Looking at the government's actions, I start to think that they pose an even bigger problem than the Pole Shift. Nancy once addressed the issue of genocide in one of her newsletters:

[39mo185h7h7oi]

The date predicted by the Zetas for the New Madrid unzipping has now arrived. It will be only a few weeks before the adjustment occurs and the European tsunami will devastate Ireland. Irish minister threatens SEVERAL years of lockdown with only periods of freedom because of the new Covid variant which is very mild.

Is the elite in Ireland planning to enslave the people of Ireland after the tsunami and going into the pole shift? I have relatives in Ireland completely unaware of Nibiru!

Several years of lockdown!? This is insane!

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2021/12/18/irish-minister-threaten...

[Gerard Zwaan]

It is not just the New Madrid. If you read the latest Zt Nibiru will also be visible. http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/wobble-tornados and http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/subconscious-knowledge 

Kamil Rak said:

The date predicted by the Zetas for the New Madrid unzipping has now arrived. I

[Howard Boldt]

Adding to the unvaxxed people possibly going to prison topic with this report from Austria.

https://newspunch.com/austria-to-begin-shipping-unvaxxed-to-prisons...

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted, though what the elite are trying to do to control the public when Nibiru awareness is upon them was discussed at length in November. 

Kamil Rak said:

The date predicted by the Zetas for the New Madrid unzipping has now arrived. It will be only a few weeks before the adjustment occurs and the European tsunami will devastate Ireland.

Irish minister threatens SEVERAL years of lockdown with only periods of freedom because of the new Covid variant which is very mild. Is the elite in Ireland planning to enslave the people of Ireland after the tsunami and going into the pole shift? I have relatives in Ireland completely unaware of Nibiru! Several years of lockdown!? This is insane!
[and from another]
It is not just the New Madrid. If you read the latest Zt Nibiru will also be visible. http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/wobble-tornados and http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/subconscious-knowledge 
[and from another]
Adding to the unvaxxed people possibly going to prison topic with this report from Austria.
[and from another]
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2021/12/18/irish-minister-threaten...
[and from another]
https://newspunch.com/austria-to-begin-shipping-unvaxxed-to-prisons/

SOZT
The degree to which the elite will go to ensure they can continue to control the populace was detailed in recent questions posed to ourselves, the Zetas. Population reduction schemes by the elite are aimed not only at what is termed useless eaters such as the aged or disabled, but include shackling the healthy and independent minded among the populace. Elite schemes include pushing the Covid-19 mRNA vax boosters when it is known that the spike protein production exhausts the immune system and creates a type of temporary AIDS. In Europe, they also include enforced lockdowns that might ensure drowning during the forthcoming European tsunami.

Now we have the white-knuckle fear of the elite exposed. Their threats to imprison all who resist being weakened by the Covid-19 vax shows their true intent - they want to imprison all who would resist their continuing control. The elite at present are composed of the very wealthy and wealth management, politicians, corporate CEOs, the hierarchy in western religions, and most certainly those in the banking industry. They are at present at the top of the pile and intend to stay there. How will this play out when the Earth changes we have predicted are unleashed?

The elite rely upon the Police and Military to enforce their decrees and protect them. The Police and Military are in the main dedicated public servants. How will they react when they see undeniable proof of Nibiru in the skies and connect the dots? Add to this the factor that those resisting the vax and forced mandates are in the main resourceful and independent thinkers. They are natural leaders. The elite will find themselves ignored. Lockdown orders will be ignored by the public, and prisons for the unvax'd opened. We have predicted that the elite will escape to their bunkers and hide.
EOZT

Prior Agenda 2030 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/30no2021.htm
The crustal shift caused by the passage of Nibiru will indeed produce a reduction in population by an estimated 90%, but the survivors will not be those chosen by the New World Order. They wanted a compliant population, small enough to be sustained by the existing food stocks and smart enough to follow instructions.

Prior Tagging ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/30no2021.htm
The trend to tag people in some way so that they can be scanned and identified has been increasing as the End Times becomes obvious. The elite desire to sort out any desperate migrants into two basic camps -  those known to be law abiding and hard-working, and those with an unknown history or a criminal record or young males with an attitude. The two groups could be considered passive and cooperative or trouble-makers. The vaccines have long been identified as tagging a person so that the fact of their being vaccinated can be established. Those vaccinated would of course be considered sheep - passive.

Prior Smallpox ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/30no2021.htm
We have been warning that the elite, terrified of the populace becoming aware of Nibiru's presence, has been trying to sicken and thus weaken the general populace. They fear riots and demands.

Prior Omi Variant ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/30no2021.htm
The flu virus mutates readily, as is known, so the number of variants for the Covid-19 flu is not unusual. Nor is the fact that some variants fit into the lockdown plans of the elite, as the elite in panic over the visibility of Nibiru would grasp at any opportunity to prevent migration or even travel to the local grocery store. In their rush to be assisted in their lockdown and depopulation schemes, the elite have released several variants of Covid-19, but only the Delta proved viable enough to create a new wave of hospitalizations.

[Nancy Lieder]

I will add this to Kamal's Q

Howard Boldt said:

Adding to the unvaxxed people possibly going to prison topic with this report from Austria.

[Poli]

"A fifth Covid-19 vaccine comes onto the market in the EU. The drug agency EMA gives the green light for the vaccine from the US biotech company Novavax. The responsible committee recommends conditional approval.

The Novavax preparation is not an mRNA vaccine like the preparations from Biontech and Moderna, nor a vector vaccine like those from Astrazeneca and Johnson & Johnson. It contains tiny particles made up of a laboratory-made version of the Sars-CoV-2 spike protein. They are supposed to ensure that the body itself stimulates the production of antibodies and T cells against the virus."

The preparation could be an alternative for vaccine skeptics because it is based on a different technology? Also in Germany a general compulsory vaccination threatens.

https://www.n-tv.de/panorama/EMA-gibt-gruenes-Licht-fuer-Novavax-Im...

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted

Poli said:

The preparation could be an alternative for vaccine skeptics because it is based on a different technology? Also in Germany a general compulsory vaccination threatens.

[and from another]
https://www.n-tv.de/panorama/EMA-gibt-gruenes-Licht-fuer-Novavax-Im...
The Novavax preparation is not an mRNA vaccine like the preparations from Biontech and Moderna, nor a vector vaccine like those from Astrazeneca and Johnson & Johnson. It contains tiny particles made up of a laboratory-made version of the Sars-CoV-2 spike protein. They are supposed to ensure that the body itself stimulates the production of antibodies and T cells against the virus.
[and from another]
Novavax Covid Vaccine Is Recommended for EU Approval. But the Stock Is Falling
December 20, 2021
https://www.barrons.com/articles/novavax-nvax-stock-covid-vaccine-e...
The company's two-dose protein-based vaccine, branded Nuvaxovid, is the fifth coronavirus vaccine recommended by the EU. It's not yet been authorized for use in the U.S. by the Food and Drug Administration. Novavax's Covid vaccine showed a 90.4% efficacy in a study conducted in Mexico and the United States. A second study in the U.K.  showed a similar efficacy of 89.7%. Novavax and the Serum Institute of India were issued an emergency use authorization for their Covid-19 vaccine by the World Health Organization.
[and from another]
New Novavax COVID-19 Vaccine Found to be Safe and Effective in Trial 
December 18, 2021
https://scitechdaily.com/new-novavax-covid-19-vaccine-found-to-be-s...
An investigational COVID-19 vaccine made by Novavax was found to be 90 percent effective at preventing COVID-19 illness, according to results from a Phase 3 clinical trial published on December 15, 2021, in the New England Journal of Medicine. Most side effects were mild to moderate and transient. Fever was very rare. The most common side effects in the vaccine recipients included pain and tenderness at the injection site, headache, muscle aches, and fatigue that lasted a day on average. None of the recipients developed serious reactions like heart inflammation (myocarditis) or blood clots.
[and from another]
How the Novavax Vaccine Works
June 25, 2021
https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/moths-and-tree-bark-how-the-novav...
The Novavax vaccine uses a telltale piece of the coronavirus: the notorious spike protein. All alone, the spike protein is harmless and can't cause COVID-19. When your immune system encounters the lonely spike protein, it produces antibodies against it. This gives you protection against future COVID-19 infection.
[and from another]
COVID-19 Pills could be Game-Changer, but Doctors Worry about Early Access, Uptake
December 18, 2021
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/covid-19-pills-game-changer-doctors-w...
As rates of COVID-19 infections rise during the holidays and omicron cases surface across the United States, drug companies Pfizer and Merck are preparing to launch the first COVID-19 pills. If authorized by the Food and Drug Administration, these at-home treatments could be prescribed by doctors and picked up at your local pharmacy to reduce the risk of becoming severely ill. Both drug companies emphasize that their medications will likely be effective against the omicron variant.

SOZT
The elite in the West have figured out how to create a perpetual Covid-19 lockdown. Where Covid-19 was nothing more than a bad flu, via creating genetically engineered variants the elite have sought to perpetuate the crisis. The claim is that unless the public is 100% vaccinated and getting repeated boosters, the world cannot be safe. Of course, it is the spike proteins themselves that are creating the variants, so the Covid-19 lockdowns are to be a fact of life forever or until the elite say otherwise.

As we have repeatedly stated, the elite in the West are terrified that the public will riot and make demands once they become aware of Nibiru. That the Covid-19 vaccinations are harmful is now widely known, as is the fact that those countries like Sweden that declined any lockdowns are doing well. Herd immunity became established. Frantic in their plans to lock the populace down during the time when the public will become aware of Nibiru, the elite turned to their partners in the Pharma industry.

Pfizer is proffering a pill now because their mRNA vaccine is widely despised. Novavax - a newcomer to the Covid-19 industry - is featuring a vaccine also based on a spike protein. The spike protein production is the key to the immunity nudge in both Pfizer and Novavax, and both arrive at the goal in the same manner. At the current time the elite in the West seem determined to sicken humanity in order to retain control. By switching to a different spike protein vaccine maker, they hope to fool the public.
EOZT

[39mo185h7h7oi]

Large explosion heard throughout several cities in Central Illinois. 

Emergency personnel have received numerous reports of an explosion. Residents report shaking windows and car alarms being activated. The source is unknown and being investigated.

https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message4988692/pg1

https://twitter.com/IntelPointAlert/status/1473358496674586628

Has the unzipping of the New Madrid fault line began just like what the Zetas predicted by the end of 2021?

[Love is the answer]

Hi Nancy, why is president Trump promoting mRNA shot? He claims he's vaccinated and got the booster. What's his logic?