ZetaTalk Chat for August 31, 2025

[Nancy Lieder]

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2. Correlation or resolution of ZetaTalk with the work of other channels or authors is not done unless they predict and have a prediction accuracy track record, as otherwise they are not a peer of ZetaTalk which does so. This rule has been in place since 2002. Just because another website or author makes a statement does not make that statement true, nor will the Zetas explain to you why their statements are not true, as then they are taking time out to address the issue.
3. The Zetas, as all visitors, are under rules on how they interact with humanity. They are not here to rescue you. They cannot divert Planet X just as today they do not prevent droughts or floods. The Earth is mankind’s schoolhouse whereby he learns to help his fellow man.
4. The date of the pole shift cannot be given, but the sequence of events can be given. [ Link ] Check the ning pinned discussions and blogs for such information as the 7 of 10, the last weeks, etc.

Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 78 years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

[James of Idaho]

July 28th, 2025-Idaho.   A question for the Zetas as I am obtaining more images of a square pattern appearing of the Sun when I add light enhancements to the pictures, they aid me in taking.   We see the debris tail covering the Sun now forming a square pattern and I am wondering if this maybe a sign to come where men's thoughts may ask why the square peg does not fit into the round hole from the excuses NASA and the cover up crowd may use to deceive the nations?   Would the Zetas care to comment or explain what we are seeing and why?

[Nancy Lieder]

SOZT

This is a tail effect. The charged tail of Nibiru does indeed bend light rays. Light rays are among the most malleable particles, as any child standing in a pool or water and noting that his feet and legs do not appear where they are supposed to be knows. The square shape James is seeing are an overlapping region of reflected light that includes Sunlight and captured Sunlight being bounced toward the Earth. This is a tail effect that will only puzzle mankind until the tail envelopes the Earth. 

EOZT

James of Idaho said:

July 28th, 2025-Idaho.   A question for the Zetas as I am obtaining more images of a square pattern appearing of the Sun when I add light enhancements to the pictures, they aid me in taking.   We see the debris tail covering the Sun now forming a square pattern and I am wondering if this maybe a sign to come where men's thoughts may ask why the square peg does not fit into the round hole from the excuses NASA and the cover up crowd may use to deceive the nations?   Would the Zetas care to comment or explain what we are seeing and why?

[James of Idaho]

Thank you Nancy and the Zetas for your explanation

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Nancy Lieder said:

SOZT

This is a tail effect. The charged tail of Nibiru does indeed bend light rays. Light rays are among the most malleable particles, as any child standing in a pool or water and noting that his feet and legs do not appear where they are supposed to be knows. The square shape James is seeing are an overlapping region of reflected light that includes Sunlight and captured Sunlight being bounced toward the Earth. This is a tail effect that will only puzzle mankind until the tail envelopes the Earth. 

EOZT

James of Idaho said:

July 28th, 2025-Idaho.   A question for the Zetas as I am obtaining more images of a square pattern appearing of the Sun when I add light enhancements to the pictures, they aid me in taking.   We see the debris tail covering the Sun now forming a square pattern and I am wondering if this maybe a sign to come where men's thoughts may ask why the square peg does not fit into the round hole from the excuses NASA and the cover up crowd may use to deceive the nations?   Would the Zetas care to comment or explain what we are seeing and why?

[Nancy Lieder]

Huge Quake off Russia Sparks Pacific Tsunamis
July 29, 2025
https://insiderpaper.com/pacific-tsunami-alert-after-magnitude-8-ea...
The magnitude 8.8 quake struck off Petropavlovsk on Russia’s remote Kamchatka peninsula, and was the largest since 2011 when one of magnitude 9.1 off Japan and a subsequent tsunami killed more than 15,000 people. Russian authorities said a tsunami hit and flooded the port town of Severo-Kurilsk, crashing through the port area and submerging the local fishing plant. Authorities said the population of around 2,000 people was evacuated. The waves — which were up to four metres high in some areas — reached about 400 metres from the shore line.
[and from another]
Japan
https://insiderpaper.com/japan-records-1-3-metre-tsunami-nhk/
The Japan Meteorological Agency kept its tsunami alerts that waves of up to three metres (9.8 feet) were expected along Japan’s Pacific coast, after a magnitude-8.8 earthquake off Russia’s Kamchatka Peninsula.
[and from another]
Japan Fukushima nuclear plant
ttps://insiderpaper.com/workers-at-stricken-fukushima-nuclear-plant-evacuate-after-tsunami-warning-operator/
[and from another]
French Polynesia waves of up to 4 metres expected
https://insiderpaper.com/waves-of-up-to-4-metres-expected-in-french...
[and from another]
Colombia
https://insiderpaper.com/colombia-orders-pacific-evacuations-after-...
[and from another]
Hawaii
https://insiderpaper.com/pacific-warning-centre-downgrades-hawaii-t...
[and from another]
Peru
https://insiderpaper.com/peru-issues-tsunami-alert-after-powerful-p...
[and from another]
Whales
https://x.com/ZT_Followers/status/1950419403818094892
Several whales have mysteriously washed up on the coast of Tateyama City in Chiba Prefecture, Japan, just hours after the powerful M8.8 earthquake off Russia triggered tsunami waves.

SOZT
This mega quake on the Kamchatka Peninsula is a reminder to those who would survive the coming Passage of Nibiru to allow for sloshing in the oceans of the world when the Crustal Shift occurs. The Crustal Shift will turn the globe 90 degrees such that the current Bulge of Brazil is pushed North to become the new Magnetic North Pole and India is shoved South to become the new Magnetic South Pole. The shift occurs within the span of an hour and will not take mankind by surprise as the Last Weeks are detailed within ZetaTalk.

Jolting earthquakes occur during the Crustal Shift when the rapidly moving land masses STOP moving and crash into each other. Sloshing occurs during the Crustal Shift when the water is forced over the top of the land – a tsunami. Just as aftershocks follow a large earthquake, this sloshing goes back and forth for some time – the water retreating and then invading. We have advised that those who would survive be 100 miles inland
https://www.zetatalk.com/7steps.htm
and 200 feet up. Tidal Bore can climb high, and water on the move is fierce and should be respected.
EOZT

ZetaTalk 7 Steps:
https://www.zetatalk.com/7steps.htm
 Our advice to be 100 miles from a coastline and 200 feet above sea level to avoid the coastal tidal waves during the pole shift should be applied.

[Shanyn Carey Gene Wolfe]

Thank you for the information you’ve shared through ZetaTalk over the years. I’ve reviewed the archives extensively and would like to request clarification on a few points.

This is a request for clarification. The following definitions are not personal interpretations, but the baseline requirements that must be met in order for an action to truly be done in Service to Others (STO).

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 Service to Others (STO):

> Definition: Prioritizing the wellbeing, needs, and agency of another being, without coercion, deception, or intentional harm.

Required components:

Wellbeing: The condition of being physically, emotionally, and mentally stable, safe, and free from distress.

Needs: Requirements essential for the physical, emotional, mental, or spiritual survival, growth, or stability of a being.

Agency: The capacity of an individual to make independent choices and act according to their own will and understanding.

Coercion: The use of force, pressure, manipulation, or threats to influence someone to act against their will.

Deception: The act of deliberately causing someone to believe something that is not true, by withholding, distorting, or misrepresenting information.

Intentional Harm: Any action knowingly taken that results in damage, distress, or suffering to another being.

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 Request for Clarification:

Here are a few examples pulled from previous ZetaTalk that are contradictory, by definition, to Service to Others. Please clarify:

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Quote 1:

> “The soul agrees before incarnation. The human self may resist, but the soul’s choice prevails.”

— ZetaTalk, The Call – 1996

What makes this contrary, by STO definition:

Agency – The autonomy of the incarnated being is bypassed.

Coercion – Action proceeds despite the individual’s resistance.

Deception – The individual is unaware of the agreement and unable to verify it.

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Quote 2:

> “Many women are abducted to carry hybrid children. Their memories are suppressed to reduce trauma.”

— ZetaTalk, Hybrid Program – 1997

What is contrary, by STO definition:

Agency – Consent is absent; participation is involuntary.

Coercion – Use of the individual’s body without present-moment agreement.

Deception – Events are hidden from the subject through memory suppression.

Intentional Harm – Physical and psychological interference without consent.

If there is a different framework of definitions being used within ZetaTalk for these terms, I respectfully request clarification so that I can understand how these actions align with the stated principles of Service to Others.

Thank you.

[Nancy Lieder]

Declined. The basic definition to think of others as much as one thinks of oneself is clear. It also fits Jesus guide "do unto other as you would have them to unto you". 

Shanyn Carey Gene Wolfe said:

Thank you for the information you’ve shared through ZetaTalk over the years. I’ve reviewed the archives extensively and would like to request clarification on a few points.

[Howard Boldt]

As far as women being abducted and made to carry hybrid children goes, my understanding is that these women are agreeing to this on a soul level. So, the Zetas, in carrying out these abductions and "forced" pregnancies. aren't going beyond STO principles. Is that mainly what your question was about?

[Derrick Johnson]

Hi Shanyn 

If you are going to quote ZetaTalk please provide a link to the source of the quote so it can be read in its entirety, that way nothing can be taken out of context 

Here is previous ZetaTalk about how if a baby is going to be born that has DNA required for the hybrid program a soul that agrees to participate in the hybrid program will incarnate into the human and will have a pre-birth agreement, so they choose to do this they are not force against their will

ZetaTalk: Prebirth Agreement

Prebirth agreements are relatively rare as this represents an interference with the normal progression of spiritual development. The priority on Earth is for young souls to have every opportunity for their lessons. Lessons are chosen carefully, and are based on the young souls need. The fact of the Transformation is considered the concern of the adults, outside of the school room at present. Thus prebirth agreements have only been allowed to intrude as we approach the Transformation, within this last century, but as the Transformation progresses they will become increasingly common.

Our hybrid program, for instance, has been granted permission to institute more prebirth agreements than in previous centuries, where it was close to nil, because we need to ensure cooperation with those who hold genetic parentage. Without a prebirth agreement, its a toss of the dice on what might incarnate into a piece of genetic material, the babe, and that babe choosing not to cooperate with our hybrid program. So we have certain key DNA parcels, the babes, incarnated with prebirth agreements without too much hassle. Those who have a prebirth agreement become aware of it at a fairly young age. They sense something different, and become fully aware of it when the time is right. Nonetheless, they cooperate with this prebirth agreement remarkably well.

https://www.zetatalk.com/hybrids/h45.htm 

Here is more ZT about the hybrid program

ZetaTalk: Custody Rights

To those contemplating the hybrid program while not actually participating in it, the fact that the humans with parental interests are kept virtually apart from their offspring seems cruel. They hear emotional stories of mothers holding babies they instinctively recognize as theirs, where it seems the babes are torn from their mother’s arms to be returned to emotionless alien nurses standing at the side. Those who actually participate in these dramas understand the underlying framework, and where they may be expressing emotion, they do not express rage or even resentment, though perhaps some sadness.

Those who participate in the hybrid program are doing so because they agreed prior to their birth, prior even to their next incarnation being selected, to participate. They understand the situation, that their hybrid children cannot live on the Earth in human society at this time. They understand the rich and loving environment their hybrid children are being raised within. Being solidly in the Service-to-Other orientation, they do not wish to remove their offspring from this environment to be placed in a human setting where they in all likelihood would be maimed and killed and taunted. Custody rights over the hybrid children is not an issue of the true parents, but becomes an issue with those who are inserting themselves into the drama, outsiders as it were. In that they scarcely understand the many factors at play, and most certainly don’t understand the resolve and commitment made by the human participants, they are not even armed with the facts.

https://www.zetatalk.com/hybrids/h42.htm 

Here is ZetaTalk about how the abduction term was chosen deliberately by humans wishing to put the breaks on the transformation 

ZetaTalk: Abduction Term

The term abduction was assigned to our visitations with our contactees early in the present day heated discussions about the alien presence. Prior to the latter half of this century, visits from aliens were termed a glimpsed fairy, an invoked demon, a guardian angel, or perhaps one of God's chariots in the sky. Humans tended to ascribe their role correctly in calling for the contact. They were brooding alone in the woods, were openly wishing to sell their soul for assistance in ridding themselves of a rival, were feeling frightened or confused and wondering if they truly had a guardian, or were anticipating a sighting in the sky and looking up in anticipation. The term abduction implies no such participation, and was chosen deliberately for this reason by humans wishing to put the brakes on the Transformation by giving a subliminal message to the populace. One could refer to a job as one's chosen career, one's occupation, one's current employment, bringing home the bacon, putting in one's dues, or going to the salt mines. The term used influences the attitude.

The abduction term is perpetuated in part because the number of recent contactees, who are on the rise, are lately given only subconscious memories of the affair where in the past were allowed to remember consciously. Key indicators are thus missed, and the contactee remembers only their quiet day and then the sudden appearance of a scar or a vague feeling that something momentous has occurred. If hypnotized, the contactee will express emotions such as anxiety over the strange circumstances or longing for a hybrid offspring, and this is viewed out of context with their normal life. Are they not anxious when encountering strange circumstances outside of visitations? Would they not feel longing if seeing only briefly a child they were going to give up for adoption? Humans in a hypnotized state express their emotions openly, where normally controlled, and thus the emotions are registered by those in attendance as extreme. For contrast, hypnotize a contactee and take them to their wedding night, the birth of a child, or their first day on an important job.

https://www.zetatalk.com/visitatn/v27.htm 

Shanyn Carey Gene Wolfe said:

Thank you for the information you’ve shared through ZetaTalk over the years. I’ve reviewed the archives extensively and would like to request clarification on a few points.

[James of Idaho]

Good morning, Emissary.   Today I would ask the Zetas since I have a lined up shot of the Sun, Nibiru and a moon swirl  if they could give us a size comparison for the moon swirl?

[Nancy Lieder]

SOZT

The size of a Moon Swirl would depend upon the size of the Moons in a dance within the swirl. Nibiru has at least two dozen Moons the size of Earth's Moon, and based on this the Moon swirl might be quite large and would likely only form temporarily until the Repulsion Force between the Moons within the swirl drove them apart. Minor Moons are more numerous and they with accompanying debris form the majority of the swirls that display. Compute the size of all these Moon Swirls based on the mass and size of the Earth's Moon.

EOZT

James of Idaho said:

Good morning, Emissary.   Today I would ask the Zetas since I have a lined up shot of the Sun, Nibiru and a moon swirl  if they could give us a size comparison for the moon swirl?

[Nancy Lieder]

8/3/25: Very strong mag. 6.8 Earthquake - North Pacific Ocean
https://www.volcanodiscovery.com/earthquakes/22018591/2025-08-03/05...
[and from another]
https://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue818.htm
June 5, 2022
The far western part of the N America Continent is the portion that extends across the Bering Straits to the Far East of Russia, with a hook down toward Japan. Per the Zetas, this hook is indeed part of N America and is not going to snap off, no matter how much pressure is applied. So what action will trigger the final New Madrid rupture?
[and from another]
https://zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue827.htm
August 22, 2022
Meanwhile the 7 of 10 Plate Movements continue. Unlike S America and Africa, which can roll in place, N America and Eurasia are locked together at the top where their plate border runs through the Arctic. The pending New Madrid Fault Line rupture will result due to this lock. Meanwhile the N American Plate is under extreme stress, with the Mainland Portion steadily dropping down into the Pacific. Recently this unrelenting pressure made the news when a volcanic hot spot emerged under water near Kamchatka. Seen and filmed by pilots who passed overhead, and seen from the ISS, this seemed to be a mystery. But the Zetas point out that until the New Madrid rupture occurs, all parts of the N American Continent will be subjected to this pressure. That part of the N American Plate that lobs over the Far East and down past Kamchatka toward Japan is being pulled down along with the rest of the Mainland Portion.

SOZT
We have described the rock hook of the N American Plate that extends over the Far East of Russia to touch Japan as being solid rock unwilling to break. All else around this hook must give to accommodate the pressure. Thus the Pacific Plate to the East of Kamchatka is subducting. The Pacific Plate off the West Coast of the US is accommodating the Mainland Portion slide to the SW also, by subduction of the East Pacific Plate under the North Pacific Plate. During this process the New Madrid Fault Line is pulled further apart, resulting in the Rupture we have predicted.
EOZT

Prior 7/17/2022 ZT:
https://zetatalk.com/ning/31jy2022.htm
The constant pressure on the Mainland Portion of N America that precedes the New Madrid finale shows up on the Heliplots aplenty. On a given day, there are only 3 locations that consistently go black – Tiksi and Bilibino on the border in the Arctic and Big Sur where the Mainland is dropping. We have stated that the rock hook extending down toward Japan will not snap off, but the pressure there is extreme as the bubbling magma that rises along the plate border shows.  

Prior 5/31/2022 ZT: 
https://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31ma2022.htm
There is great pressure on all parts of the N American Plate as the time of the New Madrid Adjustment is at hand. That the Mainland Portion is sliding to the SW and landing heavily on the Cocos Plate is well established. This has caused a rash of quakes through the mountainous western half of the N American Plate. But the key to the New Madrid Adjustment is the snapping of a hard rock bridge just above the town of New Madrid. What these Okhotsk quakes mean is that all that can adjust has already moved or is already in motion, and naught is left but the New Madrid snap itself.  

Prior 2/10/2006 ZT: 
https://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta261.htm
The virtual hook of land in the N American continent near the Kamchatka peninsula is solid rock and will not snap off to become a separate land plate, nor would this ease the deadlock along the N American and Eurasian plates even it if did. These massive plates cannot move.  But the primary drama preceding the pole shift will be the ripping action that a plate unable to move must endure. The notable area of catastrophe during this is the eastern half of the continental US. From Houston to Chicago to New England, the diagonal pull will tear the underpinning of cities.

[James of Idaho]

Good morning, Nancy.   Today at lunch I was parked less than a mile west of the Snake River and it was partly cloudy overhead and then suddenly the quake clouds formed above me and towards the river.   I noticed a chemtrail plane do its thing and then the chemtrail started reacting to the vibrations it seemed.  I noticed helix shapes forming in the chemtrails and  I am wondering if the chemtrails are doing this due to the quake vibrations or has this particular spot where the vibrations originated grounding out with Nibiru and perhaps the particulates in the chemtrails are responding to that influence as I have not seen chemtrails react this way in the past.  Would the Zetas like to elaborate on what has been captured here for us?