ZetaTalk Chat for April 30, 2025

[Nancy Lieder]

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[Nancy Lieder]

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Matt B said:

Pope Francis has died at the age of 88. Do the Zetas have any comment?

[Nancy Lieder]

Pope Francis has died at the age of 88. Do the Zetas have any comment?
[and from another]
Pope Francis, the Head of the Catholic Church, Dies Aged 88
April 21, 2025
https://archive.is/JrThH
Pope Francis, the reforming head of the Catholic Church who sought to modernise the pastoral and public priorities of the Vatican, has died at the age of 88. The Vatican announced the death of the Argentina-born Francis, a ground-breaking and progressive figure on Monday. He was the first pope to be born or raised outside Europe in 12 centuries, the first from the Americas and the first Jesuit to hold the role. Francis, who had led the world’s 1.3 billion Roman Catholics since 2013, had been in increasingly poor health and physical pain, using a wheelchair or cane for more than a year after undergoing several operations, including major stomach surgery. Francis’ death will spark an official nine-day mourning period and weeks of intrigue as to who will succeed him in the role, with more than 140 cardinals to arrive at the Vatican within 15 to 20 days to begin the papal conclave, a secretive election process held to determine a successor.
[and from another]
Pope Francis has Died on Easter Monday Aged 88
April 21. 2025
https://archive.is/20250421081749/https://www.vaticannews.va/en/pop...
In 1957, in his early 20s, Jorge Mario Bergoglio underwent surgery in his native Argentina to remove a portion of his lung that had been affected by a severe respiratory infection. As he aged, Pope Francis frequently suffered bouts of respiratory illnesses, even cancelling a planned visit to the United Arab Emirates in November 2023 due to influenza and lung inflammation.
[and from another]
Black Hat Doubles
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue720.htm
With all the Doubles appearing these days during the Tribunal operations, it is hard to keep track. Many lists are developed and shared on the Internet, but none have the accuracy that the Dark Judge, the UK branch of Q, has on declaring who is or is not a Double. They have been unerringly accurate. Thus when they indicated the Pope had been replaced the Zetas were asked to confirm, which they did. The Vatican murdered Pope Francis, to assure that the truth about the Third Secret of Fatima would not be revealed. Thus the Pope Francis Double is a Black Hat Double.  
[and from another]
Prophecy of the Popes
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue691.htm
Saint Malachy’s Prophecy of the Popes predicts that the current Pope Francis will be the last. Though this is all open for debate, most who study this prophecy conclude that it has a lot of validity and coincides with the End Times prophecy in Revelations, which predicts disaster for the city of 7 hills. Though Revelations states this city is Babylon, Babylon does not have 7 hills. Rome, where the Vatican lies, does. 
[and from another]
Pompeii Redux
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue965.htm
Per Saint Malachy in his Prophecy of the Popes, Pope Francis is the last pope prior to Judgement Day and the destruction of Rome. This certainly seems to fit with the 2026-2027 projected date of Nibiru’s Passage and Pope Francis struggling with pneumonia and now a Pompeii redux threatening.
[and from another]
Pope Francis as Advocate
https://zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue431.htm
Setting those who are not Service-to-Other to grinding their teeth, Pope Francis has advocated allowing those who have divorced to find new love, allowing homosexual unions to exist in peace, allowing priests to marry, and welcoming alien visitors from other worlds. The Vatican, which must affirm these statements as doctrine, does apparently not have the Service-to-Other soul of Pope Francis. Why else would all that pedophilia have been tolerated and covered up for decades?
[and from another]
Prophecy of the Popes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes
The prophecy concludes with a pope identified as "Peter the Roman", whose pontificate will allegedly precede the destruction of the city of Rome. Benedict XVI (2005–13) would correspond to the second to last of the papal descriptions. The longest and final verse predicts the Apocalypse: In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church, there will sit Peter the Roman, who will pasture his sheep in many tribulations, and when these things are finished, the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the dreadful judge will judge his people. The End.

SOZT
The Pope Francis who has recently been pronounced deceased is a Double, replaced in 2020.
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/30ju2020.htm
The original Pope Francis was worried about an assassination in 2014
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/23ag2014.htm
and became increasingly paranoid about this possibility in 2020. He was at odds with the Vatican. In particular, Pope Francis had a penchant for speaking from the heart with compassion for the common man.
https://zetatalk.com/ning/19ap2014.htm
This made the Vatican fearful that he would blurt out the truth about Nibiru’s pending Passage. The Church hides many secrets, from the extent of Pedophilia to the Third Secret of Fatima, and considered the original Pope Francis a threat.

In keeping with Doubles management, the man chosen to replace the real Pope Francis had lung problems, and this Easter 2025 death was a natural outcome of that. Saint Malachy’s Prophecy of the Popes
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/28fe2025.htm
has proven remarkably accurate and given the pace of Plate Movements the Vatican will be busy trying to move the Church to a safer location. We predict selecting another Pope to be unlikely, given this.
EOZT

Prior 6/30/2020 ZT: 
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/30ju2020.htm
Pope Francis appeared frightened of assassination last January when a penitent grabbed his hand, almost removing his ring. We mentioned at that time that Francis felt that without his ring he would temporarily not be Pope and thus the assassins would have courage. The issue was the Third Secret of Fatima, which those at the Vatican felt that Pope Francis might reveal. His fears have proven grounded, with those intent upon having control of the message murdering him in his bath while his ring was temporarily set aside. The prior Pope, by default, is now the Pope again, never having fully relinquished his position as he only “stepped down” due to health problems.

Prior 8/23/2014 ZT: 
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/23ag2014.htm
We have predicted that the Catholic Church will not survive the Pole Shift, due to the cover-up they perpetrated for decades over the Third Fatima secret. The realization that the Vatican knew, and did not warn the flock, will be the final straw, coming on the heels of the Pedophilia scandal. Pope Francis knows this. If one takes note, his words run contrary to Vatican law, on many issues. He expects to be assassinated!

Prior 2/20/2025 ZT:
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/28fe2025.htm
The Africa Roll is now fully in process with the Mediterranean pulling open at the NE corner of Africa, accompanied by almost daily quake swarms in Greece and the Balkans. This is in conjunction with the Prophecy of the Popes, wherein Francis is predicted to be the last Pope. What awaits for Italy and the Vatican?

Prior 4/19/2014 ZT: 
https://zetatalk.com/ning/19ap2014.htm
Pope Francis is a different man, on many levels. Genuinely Service-to-Other in his orientation, preaching the Golden Rule and the importance of love and empathy in all aspects of interpersonal life, it is a natural reach for Pope Francis to begin to educate the Catholic flock on doing the same for the visitors. There are many Catholic challenges that remain.