ZetaTalk Chat for April 30, 2025

[Nancy Lieder]

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Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 78 years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

[James of Idaho]

Joyous spring day to you Nancy.   It is the end of March and expectations of seeing Nibiru in the sky is reaching a new phase.  My question for the Zetas is as the cover up crowd continues to chemtrail the skies will this have the effect of intensifying  the dust and petro elements blowing past Nibirus north polar region in the first 270 degree roll and hasten the sighting of Nibiru for the entire world?  In essence are they shooting themselves in their own foot  in their futile attempts at covering up Nibirus existence?   Would the Zetas care to comment on the images they aid me in taking?

[Nancy Lieder]

The Zetas have nothing to add, but the coverup crowd is indeed shooting themselves in the foot, as I note people increasingly see chemtrails as the coverup they are. Of course, Nibiru will announce itself in many possible ways and they cannot stop this - the sky ablaze with fire far beyond what the Petrol fires to date have provided, Nibiru itself so visible that there is no doubt it is a PLANET, or a wobble so bad that the Sun  rises at the N Pole. That sort of thing. 

James of Idaho said:

Joyous spring day to you Nancy.   It is the end of March and expectations of seeing Nibiru in the sky is reaching a new phase.  My question for the Zetas is as the cover up crowd continues to chemtrail the skies will this have the effect of intensifying  the dust and petro elements blowing past Nibirus north polar region in the first 270 degree roll and hasten the sighting of Nibiru for the entire world?  In essence are they shooting themselves in their own foot  in their futile attempts at covering up Nibirus existence?   Would the Zetas care to comment on the images they aid me in taking?

[James of Idaho]

Much appreciation for the input, thank you Nancy!!!

Nancy Lieder said:

The Zetas have nothing to add, but the coverup crowd is indeed shooting themselves in the foot, as I note people increasingly see chemtrails as the coverup they are. Of course, Nibiru will announce itself in many possible ways and they cannot stop this - the sky ablaze with fire far beyond what the Petrol fires to date have provided, Nibiru itself so visible that there is no doubt it is a PLANET, or a wobble so bad that the Sun  rises at the N Pole. That sort of thing. 

James of Idaho said:

Joyous spring day to you Nancy.   It is the end of March and expectations of seeing Nibiru in the sky is reaching a new phase.  My question for the Zetas is as the cover up crowd continues to chemtrail the skies will this have the effect of intensifying  the dust and petro elements blowing past Nibirus north polar region in the first 270 degree roll and hasten the sighting of Nibiru for the entire world?  In essence are they shooting themselves in their own foot  in their futile attempts at covering up Nibirus existence?   Would the Zetas care to comment on the images they aid me in taking?

[Nancy Lieder]

Sky Glitch. Go to the end of the video.
[and from another]
https://x.com/shipwreckshow/status/1906431967781855720
[and from another]
https://zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue648.htm
What are these explosions on the edge of the upper atmosphere, where the atmosphere and outer space meet? Never before seen, and unexplained by mankind’s scientists, these explosions were sighted by a Russian satellite, the Lomonosov satellite, and photographed. Red Sprites and Blue Jets are known, always associated with lightning and atmospheric turmoil below – storms. But the Lomonosov explosions are not associated with either lightning or storms. The mystery deepens, but the Zetas, as usual, explain.
[and from another]
May 18, 2024
https://x.com/ZT_Followers/status/1791836207280009323

SOZT
What is causing the sky to blink? This has been captured on video within the past year or so, but more often noticed by startled people who fail to capture the phenomena as it is so fast and fleeting. Lomonosov explosions
https://zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue648.htm
occur when Petrol bursts into flame upon touching the upper atmosphere. Lomonosov explosions are sighted by satellites, but burn so quickly there is nothing left to see in the lower atmosphere. But given the amount of petrol now being wafted to Earth, there is not sufficient oxygen to consume the Petrol, so these flashes are occurring where they are visible to man. This process will accelerate and force the reality of Nibiru into media discussion.
EOZT

Prior 7/15/1995 ZT:
https://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p38.htm
Static electricity in the atmosphere will not increase during the giant comet's approach, nor afterwards, but during the passage lightning will seem to be almost constant in some places. Humans are familiar with arcing, where two poles or points are electrified, carrying an electric current, and suddenly the air between them is filled with a minor lightning bolt - zap. This is, of course, what causes lightning in the first place, an uneven distribution of electricity between natural conductors, between a buildup in the clouds and the water table below the Earth. What allows lightning to find its path? It is using a little understood path formed by sub-atomic particles, electrical waves of a sort, that have not been measured yet by Earth's human scientists. These emanate from any highly electrified field, and when they touch the arc is now possible.

Prior 2/18/2019 ZT:
https://zetatalk.com/ning/28fe2019.htm
What is Alberto capturing in his recent photos? If neon clouds are touching down in New York City, causing transformer explosions, and the Lomonosov satellite is capturing explosions in the upper atmosphere, then is the charged tail of Nibiru manifesting a new phenomena close enough to the Earth to clutter Alberto's photos? The Lomonosov explosions are bright light because they touch the Earth's atmosphere where there is sufficient oxygen to burn the gaseous fuel. But further out in space, this fuel is but a potential, a charged clump of the petrol chemicals that are carried in the tail from having been gathered in the Asteroid Belt.

[Nancy Lieder]

Bill Gates: AI Will Replace Doctors and Teachers in 10 Years—Humans Won’t be Needed ‘for Most Things’
March27, 2025
https://insiderpaper.com/bill-gates-ai-will-replace-doctors-and-tea...
Right now, expertise is still “rare,” Gates noted, referring to skilled professionals like “a great doctor” or “a great teacher” whom society continues to depend on. However, he predicted that “with AI, over the next decade, that will become free, commonplace — great medical advice, great tutoring.” In other words, the world is stepping into a new era of what Gates described as “free intelligence”. He has emphasized that AI-powered technologies will soon become widely available and influence nearly every part of life—from enhanced medical treatments and diagnoses to accessible AI tutors and virtual assistants.
[and from another]
https://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue608.htm
It is possible for droids to be sentient, like R2-D2 and C-3PO in Star Wars, or little Eva and Wall-E? Can robots be programmed to think for themselves, and thus assume control of mankind? This is the presumption in I, Robot and Terminator. The Zetas were asked this early in the ZetaTalk saga, and clarified. Robots can only do what they were programmed to do, and the Council of Worlds does not allow slave creatures to be constructed out of sentient biological material.
[and from another]
https://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue912.htm
I, Nancy, included a photo that was being passed around the Internet to show the effects of the severe cold in China. But the photos were of Snow Geese frozen on a lake in S Dakota. These photos had been posted on the web on the same day the cold weather in China hit the news. This Snow Goose video and photos were first provided by a China news outlet which claimed they were from China. Numerous news outlets confused this issue, including Nancy of ZetaTalk. Note that the Zetas, in their response, did not say “Snow Geese” or “Geese” but only said “ducks”. But this an example of how AI can mislead.
[and from another]
https://zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue900.htm
Mankind in general and the elite in particular want a slave class. If not human, then robotic slaves. Movies such as Star Wars and Eva depict thinking and feeling robots, that can act on their own intuition. But is this realistic?

SOZT
Robots are much featured in the movies where they are as sentient.
https://zetatalk.com/rules/r47.htm
as R2-D2 or C-3PO in Star Wars or Wall-E, or combined with human tissue or DNA as in the Terminator
https://zetatalk.com/rules/r17.htm
series, or are a genetically engineered animal that as a sub-human
https://zetatalk.com/ning/31de2021.htm
will take orders readily as in the Planet of the Apes series. None of these variants will exist for mankind, as we have explained, because robots will only follow their programing,
https://zetatalk.com/rules/r50.htm
and the Council of Worlds would not allow sentient tissue capable of sparking a soul to be so enslaved.

Bill Gates is a Double at present, but is following orders as most Doubles are. The elite, and the Junta in control of the US, are intensely worried about panic in the public when the common man realizes that Nibiru exists and is aiming to make a passage within 2 years. Shelves will be bare, starvation rampant unless self sufficient survival camps are operational, martial law in full force in every country, and currency and jewels worthless. How will the elite keep control during such times? By issuing false promises.

NESARA is billed as a time when “all debts will be eliminated” and the mythical Medbeds will be available to all. Now we have the promise that surviving mankind will be served by robotic servants and treated by robotic doctors who have the skill of the best mankind could educate and deliver. A Harvard education at the push of a button by an expert robot tutor. Meanwhile the elite are hiding the reality of a Nibiru passage, and by this preventing mankind from preparing to be self-sufficient.
EOZT

Prior Aug 15, 1995 ZT:
https://zetatalk.com/rules/r17.htm
A goal of research scientists is to create robots so effective at running matters that all of mankind in essence becomes akin to the upper class - waited on hand and foot. To be effective in these roles, robots would have to repair and reproduce themselves, or each other, i.e. propagate; be able to adapt to changing circumstances, i.e. learn; and, since mankind can't be bothered, make logical determinations, i.e. think. Standing between the robot and sentient life forms, then, lies only emotion - hopes, caring, desire, rage - the motivators. In pursuit of this dream servant, scientists are casting a jealous eye on biological elements, which can propagate, learn, and think. But biological elements invariably carry the capacity for emotions. Even the amoebae reacts to defend itself, to escape, and moves toward that which it desires.

Where is the line to be drawn? Do we, the Zetas, not use a massive computer for data storage and communication between alien groups in the Service-to-Others orientation, and does this computer not use biological components? We equate this to your use of wood and leather, as the biological elements we use are not alive. They cannot propagate, nor do they move to defend themselves or move toward that which they desire. They do not have desire. They are dead. This is the ethical guidelines we use in creating robots, but these are not simply guidelines we have determined among ourselves. The Council of Worlds, which oversees all situations where one intelligent life form can enslave another, forbids the use of living biological material as components of thinking machines. The robot that propagates, learns, thinks, and as all life has emotion is alive, yet enslaved, as controls would surely be put into place to prevent the servant class from arising. Thus, media scenarios such as The Stedford Wives, or The Terminator, or Star Trek's Data would not be allowed to develop, not even if scientists in 3rd Density managed to develop them, which is far from likely. That those in 3rd Density, who are emerging souls in the process of determining a spiritual orientation, would attempt to do so is one of the reasons for limiting the capabilities during 3rd Density.

Mankind, in short, is too dumb to create a handy-dandy version of intelligent, sentient life. One, per their desires, which would never break down or talk back, would always look good, be compliant in bed, foresee one's needs, repair the car, be infinitely loyal, smart as a whip but never look down on the master, and never suffer from neglect. The child's dream.

Prior May 15, 1997 ZT:
https://zetatalk.com/rules/r47.htm
Robots were first thought of during human development as workers, other humans. As in most 3rd Density worlds, enslaving the others is a constant consideration, and this slavery takes many forms. Shackling the worker to his task and working him to death is the most obvious, but the shackles that are not obvious are still just as binding. The husband who cannot leave his wife without encountering a smothering monthly support bill will tolerate demands from his master just as a shackled slave would. Both cannot think of escape due to the pain it would bring. With the advent of programmable machines such as computers, the thought of having machines as slaves is irrepressible. They don’t require wages, never demand a day off, and can be relied upon to be consistent and do what they were told to do! Such a cooperative slave.

Programmed machinery is a natural occurrence in densities higher than 3rd Density also, and to a great degree. Where the passion to enslave another is not present in 4th Density Service-to-Others communities, the desire for a silent and reliable teammate to help one do one’s job better is more certainly ever present. Robots are developed and used up to but not beyond the point where they could be considered sentient or conscious, as the Council of Worlds does not allow thinking machines, in essence biorobots, to be developed and enslaved by other intelligent species. The line is drawn where including the components of life would enter in - DNA capable of self initiated thought, emotion, and most particularly a conscious sense of the self as separate from the surroundings.

* Intelligent machines, no matter how remarkable, are always following their initial programming. Their ability to learn from circumstances inevitably follows this initial programming, and cannot unshackle itself from this. Robots are not constructed without programming, to form their own idea, so to speak, of what to do in this or that circumstance. Such a master would be unleashing a monster, as the robot could conclude that the master should be eliminated, for instance. Thus, where the urge to have silent slaves is frequently present, the urge to allow them to decide their own tasks and purpose is never present.
* The complexity of DNA, which breaks from the original coding to mutate, and frequently, has the capacity to break from its original genetic programming. Only life, where the brain upon birth is unprogrammed, can sustain a truly original thought. Robots would be unreliable if allowed to mutate, and are thus never constructed in this manner. Robots also do not have the complexity that DNA sequences allow, as the very complexity allows for variance and unpredictability - the antithesis of the concept of a reliable mechanical and undemanding slave!

Prior Jul 15, 1997 ZT:
https://zetatalk.com/rules/r50.htm
Confusion over whether robots are alive, make choices, or might be incarnated with spirits lies in understanding what is seen versus what is unseen on the surface. On the surface, humans see robots able to entertain focus on a task at hand to the exclusion of all possible distractions, and thus, for instance, win at a game of chess over a human chess master. Is the robot not thinking? Yes and no, depending upon how one classifies thought. To primitive peoples, a simple computer program appears to be thinking, as it can rapidly arrive at a conclusion while entertaining a problem it has been programmed to address. Computer programs are not considered brains by most humans only because they can gaze at and understand the program, and can see that the computer is simply following instructions.

What is seen in robots versus humans is that:
1. Robots can go places humans cannot, such as the surface of Mars or the outer reaches of the Solar System.
2. Robots can concentrate on a bounded task, such as a game of chess, far better than humans.
3. Robots can operate without attention or direction from their human masters.
4. Humans get distracted by their biological needs.
5. Humans can have intractable prejudices or cultural viewpoints that they refuse to drop.

What is unseen is that robots are bounded in ways that DNA is not bounded. Humans are bounded by their biology, an inability to put aside their biological needs, so that they cannot travel where robots can, exclusively concentrate on a task as robots can, or remain calm in disturbing circumstances such as a burning building or the torture of another human might present. In overcoming biological imperatives, robots seem superior, especially since the average human does not understand how they have been programmed and are in awe. Robots, however, are bounded in what they can address. Even where robots are designed to repair themselves and make minor adjustments to their surroundings, they are still operating within their original programming.

Humans see their DNA in light of its limitations, an upper limit on IQ, on the speed an athlete can sustain, or on longevity. They see the end result of decisions as limited because the human can only maneuver about in their natural habitat, so the complexity of what went into decision making is not apparent. What is unseen is the spiritual struggle, the pondering of the workings of the Universe, or the multiplicity of factors that go into a single decision to walk down the street or stay in the house! A robot arrives at its decision quickly because it does not ponder. Humans are virtually unlimited in their ability to ponder, which is what makes their life form attractive to the stuff of souls so that entities form within humans. Robots are utterly boring, as they have an inability to ponder, being programmed to reach quick conclusions after considering a set number of variables, and thus do not attract the stuff of souls, regardless of appearances!

Prior 12/31/2021 ZT:
https://zetatalk.com/ning/31de2021.htm
The new fascination with Transhumanism is due to the elite facing the near future of the Nibiru passage with white knuckle fear. The populace will no longer listen to the establishment, who failed to warn them or to arrange a shelter for them. Machines such as Drones can be used by the Military for surveillance or even in combat, but drones do not cover all the functions the elite need under their control. The Manchurian Candidate concept - whereby hypnotic suggestion directs human drones has been tried and failed. Telepathy is innate and natural in humans, despite the efforts of Remote Viewers to control the soul or the innate agenda of the human.

Now what? The popularity of the TV series Planet of the Apes is based on a real desire of the establishment to increase the intelligence of non-human animals to the point where they would be a controllable slave class. Thus Transgenic Monkeys where human tissue is inserted into monkeys, or Frankenrobots - putting living tissue into machines. Our use of implants in our human contacts is akin to an on-board phone system, not to control the human. And where we use living tissue in our sky computers this is akin to mankind's use of cow leather for shoes.

The elite, who desperately want to create a human slave class, are stuck with the human body and brain. Mankind is not intelligent enough to genetically engineer a super race. Mankind cannot even eliminate genetic diseases or increase intelligence. Outside of selective breeding, whereby the defective genes are blocked or the desired genes encouraged, there is little mankind can do at present. The elite cannot cage or capture the human soul, nor can they direct the human will. Instead, a time of perfect karma for the elite awaits.