ZetaTalk Chat for November 30, 2024

[Nancy Lieder]

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Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 78 years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

[J A]

If the Democrats are going to pick someone who has trouble speaking off the cuff, barely does any interviews, and has all of these flaws that wouldn't have been an issue with other choices, then that means that Kamala is the better "puppet," and that they don't care about these negatives because they're going to commit voter fraud. But, will voter fraud be combated, like in past elections?

[James of Idaho]

Good morning, Nancy.  Today we have more multi-vectored earthquake clouds rolling through and we see how after passing the wave forms dissipate the cloud structure to where it now loses cohesion. and becomes just wisps of clouds before returning to a blue sky. Could perhaps the particle flow be heating up the water vapor due to assaulting the cloud structure from multiple directions similar to what a micro-wave oven may do?   Would the Zetas explain to us how this is made possible from these captures?

[Nancy Lieder]

SOZT Earthquake clouds will dissipate in wind, like any other cloud. EOZT

James of Idaho said:

Would the Zetas explain to us how this is made possible from these captures?

[Nancy Lieder]

Declined as this is in the hands of man at present and many agendas at play. They did anticipate illegals being Democrat voters, and as reported tons of election fraud attempted. Perhaps being an ex AG they assumed she would posture well against their attempts to make Trump a 'convicted felon' with all their lawfare. 

J A said:

If the Democrats are going to pick someone who has trouble speaking off the cuff, barely does any interviews, and has all of these flaws that wouldn't have been an issue with other choices, then that means that Kamala is the better "puppet," and that they don't care about these negatives because they're going to commit voter fraud. But, will voter fraud be combated, like in past elections?

[Nancy Lieder]

Satellite images show the devastation from Spain's deadly floods
November 2, 2024
https://www.npr.org/2024/11/02/nx-s1-5176508/spain-valencia-chiva-f...
Across Valencia, areas exceeded 11 inches of rain. One area that was particularly hard hit was the town of Chiva near Valencia, which accumulated nearly 20 inches in the span of 8 hours — the equivalent to what it usually receives in an entire year.
[and from another]
Subtropical Storm Patty forms in northern Atlantic, no impacts to Florida
November 2, 9:50 ET
https://www.wesh.com/article/subtropical-storm-patty-northern-atlan...
Subtropical Storm Patty has formed overnight near The Azores in the northern Atlantic Ocean, according to the National Hurricane Center.

SOZT
On November 2, Valencia, Spain had a massive rain storm that has killed hundreds. This was caused by drooping land above Gibraltar, which is ripping open during the Africa Roll. We have predicted that Africa will move 50 miles to the East during this process, and the renting open of the border between Africa and Eurasia at Gibraltar will open a void that will create a low pressure area, inviting rain storms. Sub-Tropical storm Patty suddenly appeared on November 2 at the quad-plate junction where the Africa Plate, the Eurasia Plate, and the SE Portion and Mainland Portion of N America meet. Patty did not cause the storm, the drooping land caused Patty.
EOZT

Prior 1/1/2011 ZT:
https://www.zetatalk.com/7of10/7of10-52.htm
The Straits of Gibraltar will widen by 125 miles, as Africa drops, and Morocco will move 50 miles further east. 

Prior 12/16/2010:
https://www.zetatalk.com/7of10/7of10-46.htm
Why would the floor of the Mediterranean just above Algeria be more vulnerable than other areas during this roll? The border of the African Plate slices across northern Algeria, and thus when the plate rolls and drops, the Mediterranean floor there will suddenly find itself unsupported. Where the land mass housing Morocco and Algeria will not lose elevation, in the main, retaining its floatation strength to ride on the magma beneath, the floor of the Mediterranean is of a different composition. It will sink there, unsupported on the African side where the plates will pull apart. 

[Shaun Kazuck]

Hello:

I live in northern Wisconsin and we had what seemed to be two motherships over my town of Rhinelander today (population under 9,000).  This was as earthquake clouds covered the ENTIRE sky.  My question is, if this was a pair of motherships, what was the message for the people of this region?  We live on strong rock, the oldest on the place, and are in a good position for survival.  Migration issues perhaps?

Thanks!

[Matt B]

Hello Nancy and Zetas.

Donald Trump has been declared the winner of the 2024 US Presidential election.

Do the Zetas have any comment on the conduct and outcome of the election?

Thank you for considering this question.

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Election 2024: Presidential results

November 6, 2024

Donald Trump will be America’s 47th president, after mounting the most momentous comeback in political history that will hand him massive, disruptive power at home and will send shockwaves around the world. Four years after leaving Washington as a pariah, following his attempt to overturn the 2020 election to stay in office, Trump’s victory defied two assassination attempts, two presidential impeachments, his criminal conviction and many other criminal charges.

https://edition.cnn.com/election/2024/results/president

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Donald Trump elected US president in stunning comeback

November 6, 2024

PALM BEACH, Florida, Nov 6 (Reuters) - Donald Trump was elected president, capping a remarkable comeback four years after he was voted out of the White House and ushering in a new American leadership likely to test democratic institutions at home and relations abroad.

Trump, 78, recaptured the White House on Wednesday by securing more than the 270 Electoral College votes needed to win the presidency, Edison Research projected, following a campaign of dark rhetoric that deepened the polarization in the country.

The former president's victory in the swing state of Wisconsin pushed him over the threshold. As of 5:45 a.m. ET (1045 GMT) Trump had won 279 electoral votes to Harris' 223 with several states yet to be counted.

He also led Harris by about 5 million votes in the popular count.

"America has given us an unprecedented and powerful mandate," Trump said early on Wednesday to a roaring crowd of supporters at the Palm Beach County Convention Center in Florida.

Trump’s political career had appeared to be over after his false claims of election fraud led a mob of supporters to storm the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, in a failed bid to overturn his 2020 defeat.

But he swept away challengers inside his Republican Party and then beat Democratic candidate Kamala Harris by capitalizing on voter concerns about high prices and what Trump claimed, without evidence, was a rise in crime due to illegal immigration.

Harris did not speak to supporters who had gathered at her alma mater Howard University. Her campaign co-chair, Cedric Richmond, briefly addressed the crowd after midnight, saying Harris would speak publicly later on Wednesday.

"We still have votes to count," he said.

Republicans won a U.S. Senate majority, but neither party appeared to have an edge in the fight for control of the House of Representatives where Republicans currently hold a narrow majority.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-vs-harris-us-voters-head-pol...

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted

Matt B said:

Donald Trump has been declared the winner of the 2024 US Presidential election. Do the Zetas have any comment on the conduct and outcome of the election?