ZetaTalk Chat for September 30, 2024

[Nancy Lieder]

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3. The Zetas, as all visitors, are under rules on how they interact with humanity. They are not here to rescue you. They cannot divert Planet X just as today they do not prevent droughts or floods. The Earth is mankind’s schoolhouse whereby he learns to help his fellow man.
4. The date of the pole shift cannot be given, but the sequence of events can be given. [ Link ] Check the ning pinned discussions and blogs for such information as the 7 of 10, the last weeks, etc.

Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 78 years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

[Kamil Rak]

Major IT failures reported across the Netherlands on Wednesday, which have resulted in grounded flights, civil servants being locked out of their computers, and police officers resorting to texting one another, have been blamed on a network outage at the country's Ministry of Defense.

The extent and the cause of the problems are not yet known, but a spokesperson for the Dutch defense ministry confirmed the issue can be traced back to one of their systems.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13786527/Nationwide-ATT-ou...

Is this another cyberattack coming from the cabal? Trying to ground planes! The cabal wants citizens to drown in the European tsunami!

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted. We were watching this yesterday and the phones were out, email out, airport down. Down Detector noted some of this too. No single problem, all at once. 

Kamil Rak said:

Major IT failures reported across the Netherlands on Wednesday, which have resulted in grounded flights, civil servants being locked out of their computers, and police officers resorting to texting one another, have been blamed on a network outage at the country's Ministry of Defense.

Is this another cyberattack coming from the cabal? Trying to ground planes! The cabal wants citizens to drown in the European tsunami!
[and from another]
Flights Grounded and Police Work Hampered amid Major IT Outages across Netherlands
August 28, 2024
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/flights-grounded-and-police-w...
The airport also serves as a military airport operated by the Ministry of Defense. The country’s largest airport, Amsterdam’s Schiphol, has not reported any problems.
[and from another]
Defense Ministry Network Disruption Causes Widespread Outages in the Netherlands
August 28, 2024
https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/defense-ministry-net...
Flights were grounded, civil servants were locked out of their computers and police officers resorted to texting one another in the Netherlands on Wednesday as a network outage at the Ministry of Defense caused major IT failures across the country. The alarm and the communications systems for emergency workers were also impacted. The country’s Coast Guard said they were not reachable by phone or radio. Police officers used mobile phones and text messaging to stay in contact rather than their normal communication system. Hospitals, the country’s tax office and the national emergency number 112 were not reporting problems.

SOZT
The Netherlands blackout was deliberate at the hands of the White Hats in Europe who were conducting extensive arrests of the Cabal leaders during the blackout. Where politicians such as Macron in France and Ursula von der Leyen as the head of the European Union
https://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue890.htm
are known to support immigration and Satanism and to support the WEF Great Reset
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue793.htm
plan to enslave mankind, these were not the targets. The real leaders are individuals unknown to the public who might be watching for who takes sick or suddenly dies.

The hours long outage in the Netherlands prevented these elite from escaping by plane or notifying each other of any arrests ongoing. Phones were down, regular communications via email were down, so the arrestees could be taken by surprise. Notably the EU has been thickly covered by military planes for over a week, busy doing a stealth deportation of migrants. Using military planes instead of commercial cargo planes prevents the public from being aware of the process, thus no warning for the migrants about to be arrested.
EOZT

[James of Idaho]

On August 8th we see a crop circle in Etchilhampton, Wiltshire England.  Would the Zetas care to confirm its validity and what it's possible meaning might be?lhampton, Wiltshire England.  Would the Zetas care to confirm it's validity and what it's possible meaning might be?

[Gerard Zwaan]

There were additions done to this crop circle. http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2024/lionsgate/lionsgate2024a.html phase 2 it's called on that page.  And you see that there are some small stones placed within one of the circles,  Either placed after the additions where done by those who made the circle or put there by a person who changed the circle. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrhbxJqcE38.  

James of Idaho said:

On August 8th we see a crop circle in Etchilhampton, Wiltshire England.  Would the Zetas care to confirm its validity and what it's possible meaning might be?

[Nancy Lieder]

This CC was addressed in August. [http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31ag2024.htm] as followes:

This Lion’s Gate design relates to the observation James recently made about the Nibiru Complex. He saw his images moving and swirling in a retrograde or clockwise motion – East to West. Note that Lion’s Gate shows the base rotation of Earth being driven from the Core of Earth to be counterclockwise, the normal rotation of the Sun and Earth – West to East. The upper atmosphere then curls to go into a retrograde swirl. This is a clash and will result in more lightning storms and violent weather.

James of Idaho said:

On August 8th we see a crop circle in Etchilhampton, Wiltshire England.  Would the Zetas care to confirm its validity and what it's possible meaning might be?lhampton, Wiltshire England.  Would the Zetas care to confirm it's validity and what it's possible meaning might be?

[James of Idaho]

Good morning, Nancy and our Zeta family.  I have some captures here with my Canon PowerShot SX130 and mylar and blue filter and would ask of the Zetas if they could explain what these lines are that I am capturing?

[Nancy Lieder]

SOZT The famliiar cross that forms over a light object is due to the disbursement of light particles to relieve crowding. This is not an even disbursement, as the location proceeds in a logical manner. First in one place so that on the opposite side another crowding occurs and so another disbursement occurs, so then the crowding occurs again in each of the half circles, etc. Thus the cross. When an object like Nibiru is in the mix, the disbursement is skewed, so the skewed cross is one of the way to determine if there is an object there. 

The blue lines you have noted are not related to photon disbursement but are the reaction of the mylar and blue filter to looking directly at the Sun. Note that these lines appear when the light from Nibiru is added to the mix. In a sense, it is the mylar and blue filter creating chemical waves, so that like waves in the water reducing the water pressure, the chemical "heat" from all the light sources formed into waves. EOZT

James of Idaho said:

I have some captures with my Canon PowerShot SX130 and mylar and blue filter and would ask of the Zetas if they could explain what these lines are that I am capturing?

[James of Idaho]

Thank you so much Nancy we learn more and more each day.

Nancy Lieder said:

SOZT The famliiar cross that forms over a light object is due to the disbursement of light particles to relieve crowding. This is not an even disbursement, as the location proceeds in a logical manner. First in one place so that on the opposite side another crowding occurs and so another disbursement occurs, so then the crowding occurs again in each of the half circles, etc. Thus the cross. When an object like Nibiru is in the mix, the disbursement is skewed, so the skewed cross is one of the way to determine if there is an object there. 

The blue lines you have noted are not related to photon disbursement but are the reaction of the mylar and blue filter to looking directly at the Sun. Note that these lines appear when the light from Nibiru is added to the mix. In a sense, it is the mylar and blue filter creating chemical waves, so that like waves in the water reducing the water pressure, the chemical "heat" from all the light sources formed into waves. EOZT

James of Idaho said:

I have some captures with my Canon PowerShot SX130 and mylar and blue filter and would ask of the Zetas if they could explain what these lines are that I am capturing?

[Nancy Lieder]

STS percentage used to be 7% then in 3 years from 2021 to 2024 it dropped to 3.2% what happened?

SOZT 
The reduction in highly Service-to-Self souls occurred because the STS were harvested. They were taken while incarnated, most in human form. Unless one is in their group, their absence would not be noted. That this would happen is recorded in earlier ZetaTalk
https://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta557.htm 
– the STS taken from the Earth in human form.
EOZT

Prior 1/16/2010 ZT: https://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta557.htm 
Your math is wrong. The Earth currently has 6 billion humans, of which only a billion have reincarnating souls. The rest are unlikely to spark a soul. Of the billion, 7% or so are Service-to-Self and will not be incarnating on Earth but will be taken to prison planets for their next incarnation, unless removed in human form to their new homes prior to the end of this incarnation. Of the billion, 30% or so are Service-to-Other and will be incarnating into hybrid bodies which we can produce rapidly, as incubation is assisted artificially so carrying to term in the mother is not required. The remainder of the billion are undecided and will go to a water planet for their next incarnation, and octopi have many eggs.

Prior 7/5/2008 ZT:
https://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta461.htm
Those contactees who agree to go early, before their deaths as humans, are doing so for their benefit. They find themselves in a bad setting, starving, unable to improve their lot by any means they are used to deploying. They are giving the Call to aliens in the Service-to-Self. If these humans are in a setting where their absence will not be noted by other humans, a rule the Council of Worlds has placed so as not to increase the anxiety of humans on Earth during the Transformation, then they may be taken early while in human form. Thus, the setting where this would happen would not be in a gang or a group or a community. The Service-to-Self human would be isolated, and furious about his or her circumstances, and thus by fuming is giving the Call to aliens in the Service-to-Self who would naturally offer a better setting. In their new home, these humans would find they no longer are starving, but life would not be what they expected at all!

Prior 8/18/2007 ZT:
https://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta393.htm
For this pole shift, a Transformation process is in place, where those fully into the Service-to-Self orientation will be removed, often before their incarnation as humans has ended, and taken to prison planets to live with their own kind. They will not be returning, will not be reincarnating on Earth. Likewise the undecided in their orientation will be taken elsewhere when the Earth incarnation ends, to a water world which is in 3rd Density to be a form of octopi. This leaves only those in the Service-to-Other orientation, who will reincarnate into the hybrids. These individuals will become acquainted with ourselves, the Zetas, well before their life as a member of the human species is ended in this lifetime. They will be absorbed into our or the hybrid communities. Thus high tech will return, but not in the hands of man, so to speak. Our communities will be high tech, man alone will not be.

Prior 4/30/2024 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/30ap2024.htm
As expected, since 2021 the percentage of souls solidly in the STS orientation has been reduced due to the tendency of those in the STS to attempt to control others. Haiti is an example of an STS takeover and the infighting engendered in a Mad-Max environment. This infighting in gangs and resistance from the ever-increasing STO communities has created casualties for the solidly STS, who are now approximately 3.2% of the souls on Earth.
The steady increase in STO incarnated souls has again increased, due to two factors – Undecided souls moving into the STO orientation as they react to the distress of others around them, and Star Children entering the fray. Some of the Star Child growth is due to an Undecided entity wanting out, requesting death so that a Star Child can step in. Thus the number of incarnated STO souls on Earth at present is approximately 52%.
We have stated that the Undecided will constitute the majority of those who die as a result of the coming Pole Shift. Denial is in sway, along with a desire to enjoy the comforts of modern living as long as possible. Like infants, wailing for attention, they will demand social services rather than focus on taking care of themselves or the needs of others.  Courageous Service-to-Other individuals will survive and prevail after the Pole Shift, so the population after the Pole Shift will be almost exclusively in the Service-to-Other.

[Nancy Lieder]

Is there something more behind this "story" than is being reported? Is it possible the Astronauts can see Nibiru coming towards Earth and with it its vast tail of debris that would pulverize the ISS?
[and from another]
Hello, Nancy and the Zetas. Could our friends the Zetas shed some light on a mysterious radio station that broadcasts coded messages at regular intervals. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UVB-76.
This radio station has been agitating the minds of radio amateurs and conspiracy theorists from all over the world for half a century. Just the other day, on 29.08.2024, it broadcasted as many as 8 encryptions at once, which has never happened before, in the entire history of observation. You can listen to it here. https://t.me/sehensiesee
[and from another]
NASA Astronaut Stuck in Space Reports ‘Strange Noises’ coming from Troubled Starliner Capsule
September 1, 2024
https://www.foxnews.com/science/nasa-astronaut-stuck-space-reports-...
A "Pusled Sonar Ping" is coming from the Boeing Starliner spacecraft. A NASA astronaut at the International Space Station (ISS) on Saturday reported hearing a "strange noise" coming from the Boeing Starliner spacecraft just days before it is set to leave the station and return to Earth on autopilot. NASA says it is coming from the craft's speakers. A pulsating sound emanating at steady intervals can be heard. The sound is emanating from the speaker inside the Starliner. 
[and from another]
The Starliner Spacecraft has Started to Emit Strange Noises
September 1, 2024
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/09/starliners-speaker-began-emit...
It was not immediately clear what was causing the odd, and somewhat eerie noise. As Starliner flies to the space station, it maintains communications with the space station via a radio frequency system. Once docked, however, there is a hardline umbilical that carries audio.
[and from another]
UVB-76
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UVB-76
UVB-76 also known by the nickname "The Buzzer", is a shortwave radio station that broadcasts in Upper Side Band mode on the frequency of 4625 kHz. It broadcasts a short, monotonous buzz tone, repeating at a rate of approximately 25 tones per minute, 24 hours per day. Sometimes, the buzzer signal is interrupted and a voice transmission in Russian takes place. From its first voice transmission in 1997 to 2010, the station identified itself as UZB-76.

SOZT
Why would a buzz from a short wave station in Russia and the radio communications from the Starliner parked at the ISS suddenly develop a loud buzz or pulsing sound? Both are communicating via radio. It is the presence of Nibiru coming closer and due to the 270 Roll swinging its N Pole toward the Earth. For lack of a better name for this phenomena, you can call it Nibiru’s Song. Radio has long been the communication of choice when trying to broadcast in space, so this should not be a surprise. Yes, this will increasingly interfere with mankind’s communications, but clever technicians might figure out how to filter out these frequencies while Nibiru sings on.
EOZT

[Kamil Rak]

I found this. This is interesting.

https://x.com/Trumpusa1A1/status/1830301633856573868

https://x.com/19Goldstein84/status/1829586719164776795

National Guard is being deployed in NYC again. Martial law to be imposed soon?

[Nancy Lieder]

The going theory is that Trump will be arrested on 9/18 and taken immediately to jail, and riots at the courthouse will occur. This is in the hands of man and could go in many directions, not predictable per the Zetas, who decline to speculate. 

Kamil Rak said:

I found this. This is interesting.