ZetaTalk Chat for September 30, 2020

[Nancy Lieder]

Questions can be posed on this discussion by a member, or posted to a ZetaTalk Question email address. Nancy will then post all accepted email questions from the general public to this discussion.

• Twitter: @NancyLieder1
  
• If your questions are just a demand for a hand-held tour, and it is apparent you have not even attempted to research or read the existing material, your post will be deleted.
• Commentary chitchat will automatically be deleted if it does not add to the questions already posed. The weekly Q&A chat is not a stage for opinions or rants. 
  

• Research the ZetaTalk WebSite and use the Search Engine dedicated to the site. Check the prior ning chats archives or the prior GLP chat archives. This Search Tips Primer will make you an expert after only a quick read.

Accepted questions will be noted as such.

• If Nancy indicates that your question is “accepted” then it will be answered.
• If not, assume it has been declined by the Zetas.
• The Q&A discussions just past and ongoing are pinned for easy reference.
• Answers will be posted monthly to the ZetaTalk websites. The discussion will be closed with a new discussion opened for the following month at that time.
• To find all prior chats on the ning, go to this list: https://poleshift.ning.com/forum/categories/zetatalk-1/listForCategory

Ning Rules that Apply

1. No debunking and disruption. Debunking and disruption will lead to suspension.
2. The existence of Planet X and the truthfulness of ZetaTalk are not debatable.
3. This ning does not focus on religion or politics, so these types of questions will be declined as a distraction from the issue at hand.
4. ZetaTalk only. Posting of or discussion regarding material alleged to be channeled or otherwise relayed by entities other than the STO Zetas to anyone other than Nancy Lieder of ZetaTalk.com is not allowed on this site

Zeta Rules that Apply

1. No personal counseling is done.This rule has been in place since 1996. Questions should be of broad interest to the general public.
2. Correlation or resolution of ZetaTalk with the work of other channels or authors is not done unless they predict and have a prediction accuracy track record, as otherwise they are not a peer of ZetaTalk which does so. This rule has been in place since 2002. Just because another website or author makes a statement does not make that statement true, nor will the Zetas explain to you why their statements are not true, as then they are taking time out to address the issue.
3. The Zetas, as all visitors, are under rules on how they interact with humanity. They are not here to rescue you. They cannot divert Planet X just as today they do not prevent droughts or floods. The Earth is mankind’s schoolhouse whereby he learns to help his fellow man.
4. The date of the pole shift cannot be given, but the sequence of events can be given. [ Link ] Check the ning pinned discussions and blogs for such information as the 7 of 10, the last weeks, etc.

Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 78 years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

[Nancy Lieder]

My question this month: 

Europe and Israel seem suddenly nervous about September 18, needing to go into a second draconian lockdown by that date. They cite a rise in Covid-19 cases, but if this is true, why wait until September 18? The Zetas have stated that Heads of State worldwide were informed about Nibiru by Bush in 2003, and have gotten regular updates. The Zetas state that these Heads of State have been told that by January 2021 Nibiru could no longer be denied. We formerly had the Prongs, where astronomers based in Europe and the US were preparing to announce and admit Nibiru. Has this been reactivated? Is there a group of astronomers planning to initiate a debate in the media by September 18?
[and from another]
Israel to Enter Full-Blown Lockdown, Shut Schools & Close Most Non-Essential Business from September 18 - Report
September 13, 2020
https://www.infowars.com/israel-to-enter-full-blown-lockdown-shut-s...
Israel is poised to declare the whole country a “red zone” due to a spike in Covid-19 cases, limiting people’s movements to a 500-meter radius from home and closing all non-essential businesses that serve customers in person. The sweeping lockdown is set to take effect on September 18 at 6am local time, multiple Israeli media reported.
[and from another]
Second Lockdown in Europe from September 18 According to Spanish Newspaper
August 14, 2020
https://commonsensetv.nl/en/second-lockdown-in-europe-from-Septembe...
Socialist Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez, who in his own words is 'militantly pro-EU', takes to the country, according to Euro Weekly News 18 September back into a strict lockdown, supposedly because of the 'worrying rising' number of Covid-19 infections. In Phase 1 there will be a regional lockdown first. Spaniards are then no longer allowed to leave their municipality or place of residence. The borders with France and Portugal are also closed to all 'non-essential' traffic.
[and from another]
It’s now Looking like the Lockdowns may have been a Huge Mistake
September 6, 2020
https://nypost.com/2020/09/06/its-now-looking-like-the-lockdowns-ma...
We’ve never before responded to a contagion by closing down whole countries. As I’ve noted, the 1957-58 Asian flu killed between 70,000 and 116,000 Americans, between 0.04 percent and 0.07 percent of the nation’s population. The 1968-70 Hong Kong flu killed about 100,000, 0.05 percent of the population. The US coronavirus death toll of 186,000 is 0.055 percent of the current population. It will go higher, but it’s about the same magnitude as those two flus, and it has been less deadly to those under 65 than the flus were. Yet there were no statewide lockdowns; no massive school closings; no closings of office buildings and factories, restaurants and museums. No one considered shutting down Woodstock.

SOZT
Why are Europe and Israel in a panic, going into a draconian lockdown on September 18? If this is about the Covid-19 virus going into a Second Wave, then why wait for the lockdown? One day it is not deadly and the next day, deadly? Despite the hysteria about Covid-19, statistically it has proven to be no worse than a bad flu. Historically, the world did not go into draconian lockdowns over a bad flu, so why is Covid-19 any different? It is being used to control the populace for the panic that the establishment fears is coming when the public becomes aware of Nibiru.

This was anticipated to be upon the establishment by January, 2021, but an international group of astronomers has decided to preempt this date by educating the public before panic can set in. After Obama failed to inform the world in 2015 that Nibiru was trending for a passage, an international group instituted what we called the Prongs,
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue617.htm
and set about to lead the people of the world to an understanding of the likely passage and potential crustal shift that would be caused by Nibiru.

This effort failed
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue545.htm
because the astronomers were from Europe and the US, neither of which was ready for their populace to hear this bad news. The Prongs were shut down, but never died. The new 2020 Prong effort is populated by dozens of astronomers from as many countries so that any political agenda cannot squelch it. The former Prongs were under western control, but this new group is beyond that. Israel fears banking failures and is quickly making amends with their Arab neighbors. Europe fears uncontrolled migration. A second wave of Covid-19 is thus being used as an excuse to control the populace.
EOZT

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31mr2019.htm
Is there such a worldwide program that has a deadline of 2021? Every country has one. They have been told, via face-to-face meetings between heads of state, that this is the year when Nibiru will be close enough that denial is no longer feasible. What programs are being put into place? As Nancy has noted, Russia and China have firm plans. The US will be dealing with the New Madrid by then, and fully into Martial Law programs with FEMA. 

[J A]

So why was it decided now for Ruth Bader Ginsburg to publicly die?

http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31ag2019.htm

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted. 

J A said:

So why was it decided now for Ruth Bader Ginsburg to publicly die?

[and from another]
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31ag2019.htm

SOZT
The Ginsburg Double has always been a White Hat Double, under the control of the US Junta, so why was the timing of her “death” chosen to be just ahead of the 2020 election? In that the Junta also has control of the Biden campaign, with both the Biden and Harris Doubles being White Hat Doubles, a withdrawal by Biden at the last minutes to spoil the fraudulent mail-in ballots can be arranged. What is not under the control of the Junta is the liberal media and public perception. Whatever the outcome of the 2020 election, the public should conclude that it was a lawful process.

What is the situation now where Ginsburg has been announced as dead and SCOTUS has 8 votes rather than the 5/4 tie breaker that would have been present if Ginsburg were alive? Any challenge to the mail-in ballot scheme that reaches SCOTUS would thus be deadlocked, and the public would accept this situation. Existing law states that should Biden withdraw the DNC must nominate a replacement, so any early ballot already mailed in has been spoiled and cannot assume the write-in of another candidate. Only a write-in at the polls would be legal. Trump wins.
EOZT

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31ag2019.htm
Chief Justice Roberts did report to Trump that Ginsburg was dead, so is not liable for fraud. Since Ginsburg was executed by a Tribunal decision, as with the McCain execution, there has been a determination to keep the circumstances from the public. Both were guilty of treason, McCain assisting ISIS, a US enemy, and Ginsburg subverting the law. The false story of yet another pancreatic cancer is setting the stage for her “death”, now that the 2020 Democrats have essentially selected Biden as their nominee. 

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email: 

Fulford says a Zionist mop up and Q is saying Rig for Red on 9/17 and then Running Red on 9/19. Is this the real reason for the 9/18 lockdown? Khazarian strongholds such as the European Union and Israel involved?
[and from another]
https://benjaminfulford.net/2020/09/21/as-zionists-purged-in-israel...
The rogue nation of Israel was put under lockdown at the start of the Jewish New Year to facilitate a purge of Zionists. In a counter-offensive, an estimated one-million Satanists in the U.S. are being mobilized to overthrow the government. The major anti-Zionist offensive was started with the announcement of the death of Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg.  Here is how Pentagon sources summed up the situation: “Trump announced a list of Supreme Court nominees on September 9th, so the Ruth Bader Ginsburg (RBG) death on Rosh Hashanah sends a New Year message to the Jewish mafia while Israel is forced into another lockdown to round up Zionists.”
[and from another]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDVT-8tUfiE
[and from another]
https://www.military.com/video/b-2-stealth-bomber-drops-massive-ord...
[and from another]
QAnon Rig for Red Meaning: Do You Understand These Q Posts?
https://joyinliberty.com/qanon/rig-for-red/
“Rigging for red” means using dim red lighting to preserve night vision (or “dark adaptation”). Red lighting has frequently been used on submarines since World War II.

SOZT
9/18 has many meanings, as there are many battles playing out. One operation can take advantage of the openings provided by another. For example, Ginsburg’s death not only providing an opportunity for Trump to fill that SCOTUS seat, but also to block the public expectation that the mail-in ballots could be supported by SCOTUS via her vote. That this was planned could be seen from Trump talking about his short list the week before she died. Ginsburg’s death on 9/18 was to flush out Democrats, who would react to the expected loss of a SCOTUS backing.

9/18 is also a date talked about by Q, in that he said Rig for Red on 9/17 and then Running Red on 9/19. Now on 9/20 a massive B52 Stealth bomber was depicted. Q would not refer to any Nibiru announcement that way. The UK inference that their lockdown might be brief and for only two weeks also implies a mop up rather than an announcement that would set hair on fire and require Martial Law. So in this regard, Fulford is providing valid insight, and is correct. So now we have the 2020 mail-in ballots scheme countered and a Satanist mop up operation in Israel and Europe, but could there be more?

In that at some point countries in the West, considered Democracies, are going to have to deal with the reality of Nibiru, this is yet another 9/18 opportunity. They are already experiencing riots, and know that Martial Law will eventually be required. Russia and China are not reluctant about Nibiru and in fact need this admission to motivate their people. Dictatorships like N Korea and Iran and the Philippines do not expect riots beyond what they can control. During the crackdown on Antifa riots and the anticipated Democrat riots over the loss of the 2020 election, essential Martial Law will be inserted.

Thus this is the perfect time to unveil Nibiru, when all is already in turmoil, the media already with their hair on fire over the 2020 election being stolen because Biden has withdrawn. The Satanists enraged and playing any remaining cards they hold because their networks have been tried and found guilty by the Tribunals. And creeping into this anarchy will be discussions about a rogue planet covered in red dust that has taken up residence in the Solar System. Nibiru will not dominate the discussion, but will be an issue that will continue to grow, having been introduced during the turmoil.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email: 

Comey and Brennan are going to be before the House soon, to testify about 2016 spying on Trump and related issues. It is reported they are both Doubles, under arrest and at Gitmo. Is this true? Hunter Biden’s role in scooping up cash from the Ukraine and China is also going to be investigated by the Senate, yet he seems to have a different face lately. And what about the Squad? They seem pretty quiet these days, and the Squad is reportedly in trouble too. Lots of faces changing around the Capitol in DC.
[and from another]
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue723.htm

SOZT
The End Times battles between Good and Evil are most intense when one side has their back against the wall and is literally fighting for survival. This is the case with the Satanists, who had been supported by the Pointy Head aliens
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue706.htm
in Antarctic who are now on the run and leaving the planet. The humans who were part of this Moloch worshiping enterprise are left without leadership and floundering. For some, it is a desperate need for more Adrenochrome harvested from tortured children, having become physically addicted. For most, it is the loss of the rewards they were promised - wealth and political control.

The White Hats worldwide, led by President Trump and his Junta and joined by like-minded forces in every country, have stepped in to stop this evil practice. Moloch worship
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue609.htm
is primarily a practice that sprang from the Middle East and thence to Europe and by extension to America. But the wider plan by those intent upon making the Earth a home for those in the Service-to-Self included a takeover of the US, long viewed as the prize as it houses the largest military in the world, equivalent to all other military forces in other countries. Biden was bribed early, via Hunter, toward this end.

Thus, the long list of politicians and notaries who give evidence of having become Doubles includes those who committed treason during their attempts to service the New World Order
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue533.htm
agenda. One example is the crimes committed in 2016 in an attempt to sabotage President Trump’s campaign. Where Brennan and Comey are scheduled to appear in the House, it will be stand-ins that are sworn in. Less obvious are the attempts by foreign agents to subvert the democratic process. It is this insurgency that has landed the Squad
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue670.htm
at Gitmo, where they currently await trial.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email: 

We are wondering here are these photos of the Nibiru real? If these are real, things are really progressing! This is getting really really interesting.
[and from another]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3ALlF24TIA
Strange Photo Surfaces of Sun Appearing to Eclipse Behind Wildfire Smoke! *Not the Moon*
Mr MBB333 I’m submitting photos of this “sun” planet as well from Nevada. Around the same date Sep 6 . Looks exactly the same. … I have some too that a friend took in Arizona. …
[and from another]
OMG. Left Picture is from Hawaii, right picture is from Texas wow. What we got here?
https://www.youtube.com/post/Ugyqx95dvldySI42LxJ4AaABCQ

SOZT
Photos of the Sun have begun appearing with what looks like an eclipse from an orange orb, approximately the size of the Sun itself. The eclipse can come from the right or left, where the poles of the Sun are located in mankind’s view from Earth at the latitude of these photos. This illusion is not caused by the dust from the West Coast fires, though they exacerbate the illusion. This illusion is caused by the red dust in the tail of Nibiru, which has been wafting the Earth since Nibiru arrived in the inner Solar System in 2003. How can dust in the lower atmosphere create the illusion of an eclipse?

As is known by man, light rays bend easily. Thus the spread of the spectrum in a rainbow or the appearance of a foot under water being distorted and disconnected from the body. Light rays are pulled by gravity or by a magnetic field, and thus during this time when Nibiru is hovering between the Earth and Sun near the orbit of Venus, the magnetic field of Nibiru casts its influence. This has distorted the Schumann Resonance and caused EMP disasters in mankind’s electronic infrastructure. The red dust in the tail of Nibiru is iron oxide dust, is charged, and thus encouraged to line up along magnetic flow lines.

In terms of magnetic field dominance, we have the Sun, then the Earth which aligns with the Sun, and finally Nibiru as an interloper. As Nibiru rises to the Ecliptic, it tends to align in a T formation
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta152.htm
with the Sun’s magnetic field. These alignments are temporary, but would affect the charged dust that lies between Nibiru and the Earth. What is being seen in these photos is the charged red dust in the vast tail of Nibiru aligning with the tilted magnetic field of Nibiru, averse the normal alignment with the Sun’s dominant field.
EOZT

Prior 2/8/2004 ZT: http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta66.htm
Might Planet X flop sideways, magnetically, on its way to the Sun’s middle where it can assume a side-by-side alignment?

Prior 9/30/2004 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta163.htm
These flow lines become tighter at the Sun's middle, so Planet X almost aligns horizontally just under the Ecliptic. 

Prior 9/11/2004 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta152.htm
Coming in at a 32° angle toward the Sun from the direction of Orion, it slings its S. Pole away from the Sun’s S. Pole, positioned along the strong Magnetic Flow Lines that surround the Sun, first at an angle that puts it almost in an end-to-end alignment, but increasingly into an almost horizontal alignment as it approaches the Sun’s middle, the Ecliptic. 

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted from Alberto.

Impossible translate this picture. For me I am confused. Orange and red colors next capture more clear. Now today rain rain and ciao ciao for you.

SOZT
Alberto’s close up of the petrol bubbles has captured what appears to be a line of white in the red dust clusters. What does the white represent? Light that encompasses all photons in whatever spectrum appears to be white. The light rays in amidst this petrol and red dust image capture have clustered along a magnetic field line. Alberto and Manuel have regularly captured these white lines along the magnetic fields that form around Nibiru and its Moon Swirls, but this is a close up.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

As is our usual practice, we are closing this September Q&A and opening October. Please post your questions there. Thank you.

(http://poleshift.ning.com/forum/topics/zetatalk-chat-for-october-31...)