ZetaTalk Chat for November 30, 2017

[Nancy Lieder]

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2. Correlation or resolution of ZetaTalk with the work of other channels or authors is not done unless they predict and have a prediction accuracy track record, as otherwise they are not a peer of ZetaTalk which does so. This rule has been in place since 2002. Just because another website or author makes a statement does not make that statement true, nor will the Zetas explain to you why their statements are not true, as then they are taking time out to address the issue.
3. The Zetas, as all visitors, are under rules on how they interact with humanity. They are not here to rescue you. They cannot divert Planet X just as today they do not prevent droughts or floods. The Earth is mankind’s schoolhouse whereby he learns to help his fellow man.
4. The date of the pole shift cannot be given, but the sequence of events can be given. [ Link ] Check the ning pinned discussions and blogs for such information as the 7 of 10, the last weeks, etc.

Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 70 [73] years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted. 

Brian Mas said:

I live in Morelia, Michoacán, in México.

I live in Morelia, Michoacán, in México. Yesterday I recorded what it seems to be an alien spaceship. My city is small, one million habitants on average. We are not used to this kind of phenomena in this city, it was very visible and lasted in the skies about one hour and a half. Could zetas comment if there is a message here? I've been thinking about a possible subconscious warning for us about the volcanic or seismic activity. Will this kind of sightings be on increase in this area? Any recommendations? 
[and from another]
https://youtu.be/TzdSsRr9yBs

SOZT
Mexico faces several dangers during the geological changes to come. It has several active volcanoes, but Michoacan is 100 miles from Paricutin just to the West and over 100 miles from Popocatepetl to the East of Mexico City. Mexico will also be assaulted by high waves as the Pacific compresses, and tidal bore can occur in the ravines along the coastline. Michoacan is both highlands and inland, and will be spared. Earthquakes are afflicting southern Mexico where it lies along the plate border with the Cocos Plate, but this is notably to the South and West of Michoacan, in the softer rock that lies along the coast.

Thus Michoacan will find itself with refugees from Mexico City when Popo explodes, refugees from the coastline during increasing earthquake battering along the coastline, and refugees from the coastline when the tidal waves begin washing in during any severe wobble sloshing or the sloshing of the Pole Shift itself. The singular UFO display witnessed by many was accompanied by a telepathic message to prepare for this role, of being a hub for survivors who will crowd into Michoacan and then migrate into the deserts of Mexico, which will bloom in the Aftertime.
EOZT

[Tracie Crespo]

Hi Nancy & Zeta's. Is the population as a collective being bombarded by remote viewers to try to negatively influence those on the edge?

[Stanislav]

Hi Nancy and Zetas,

The ambitions of the Russian Government were again interrupted?

Russia loses contacted with newly-launched satellite

Data: Roscosmos [3]; D3.js code [2]

28 November, 2017. "Russia has lost contact with a satellite just hours after it was launched into the space. The Russian space agency said it has failed to establish contact with the newly launched meteor satellite after it reached orbit." [1]

Image Sources: 1) Dmitry Rogozin - Deputy Prime Minister of Russia on defense and space industry. Chairman of the Supervisory Board of Roskosmos State Corporation (Roscosmos) - wikipedia.org  2) Roscosmos logo - wikipedia; 3) The Soyuz-2.1b rocket carrying Russia's Meteor-M 2-1 meteorological satellite lifts off from the launch pad at the Vostochny cosmodrome outside the city of Uglegorsk, about 200 kms from the city of Blagoveshchensk in the far eastern Amur region on November 28, 2017. / AFP / Kirill KUDRYAVTSEV - thepeninsulaqatar.com

References:

[1] Sykes, S. K. (2017, November 28). Russia loses contact with newly-launched satellite. Retrieved November 28, 2017, from http://www.euronews.com/2017/11/28/russia-rocket-launch-satellite-c...

[2] D3.js code: stackedbarchart; data.csv (Based on this example: https://bl.ocks.org/mbostock/3886208 and Released under the GNU General Public License, version 3.)

[3] https://www.roscosmos.ru/launch/2017/

[Nancy Lieder]

Declined as this is not a UFO but a person on some sort of hovercraft. I found a prototype that would fit, though not exactly. 

https://www.popsci.com/watch-first-manned-flight-tricopter 

http://madeinmarseille.net/15031-record-monde-flyboard/

https://www.theverge.com/2016/4/15/11439798/franky-zapata-racing-je...

Torsten Greifenstein said:

this UFO Footage seems to be real:

[Derrick Johnson]

HI Tracie

Here is previous ZetaTalk which explains who the targets are and that there are only a few hundred people in the world with the talent to connect brain to brain and deliver a message with enough impact that influence is possible

http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/07ap2012.htm

We have in the past explained the process of psychically attacking a person in a discussion on the White Brotherhood, who are a group of psychics targeting influential people such as authors. The techniques used are more commonly referred to as remote viewing. i.e. telepathy. Government agencies such as the CIA and KGB have long employed psychics with the talent to connect to others and snoop or deliver a message. The targets vary but are primarily authors, reporters, politicians, or those in the media in a position to influence public opinion. Influence is delivered subliminally. The target is unaware they are being targeted. 

ZetaTalk has been targeted from the start, but Nancy has proven quite resistant to all efforts. Nancy has almost constant contact with ourselves which of course counteracts negative thinking being interjected by establishment remote viewers. But even if this were not the case her resolve and understanding of the issues is unshakable. Nancy has a humorous example of what life under the barrage of remote viewing can be like, as she was chatting with ourselves and asked a question, getting both a “yes” and a “no” simultaneously. We have for years been doing official ZetaTalk at the keyboard because the hand-brain connection blocks the influence from others. 

How prevalent are these attacks and who might be a target? There are perhaps only a few hundred individuals with the talent to connect brain-to-brain with others and deliver a message with enough impact that influence is possible. Picking up information is more common, and as we have stated 10% of the populace has some ability to communicate telepathically, 2% at will. Realizing that the girl across the room at a party may be receptive to your advances or that your boss is thinking about firing you are the types of telepathic exchanges that are common. Professional remote viewers raise this to another level.  Snooping is one thing, but the professionals are used to cause a reporter to doubt his conclusions, or a politician to have thoughts of suicide. 

In that the ZetaTalk message about the coming Pole Shift is a high priority threat to the establishment, Nancy and those who support her message have been targets. We are not talking about the casual reader or even the avid fan. We are talking about keyindividuals like the owner of the Pole Shift ning and his volunteer staff, or authors or bloggers who espouse the truth of what ZetaTalk has revealed. Given that there are only a few hundred psychics in the world with the talent to make an impact, and given the number of targets needing to be influenced or repressed, perhaps only a dozen individuals associated with Nancy or the Pole Shift ning have been targeted.

How can you tell if you have been a target? First ask yourself if your sense of importance is putting you in this category, where your actual influence and contributions are insignificant in the scheme of things. Second, if you are a key player, examine your attitude and mood since becoming a key player. If you suddenly doubt everything you have observed with your own eyes, for instance, why would this be? If you suddenly find yourself distracted by worries, when nothing has changed in your life, why would this be? Be aware that remote viewers are merely people and telepathy is a two way conversation. Talk back, and tell them you do not want their opinions!   

Tracie Crespo said:

Hi Nancy & Zeta's. Is the population as a collective being bombarded by remote viewers to try to negatively influence those on the edge?

[Nancy Lieder]

Declined and thank you Derrick for the spot on ZetaTalk. Remote Viewers are few, and are used to influence persons of IMPORTANCE who have INFLUENCE with the course of events. You are presumably not one of those. Rest easy. 

Tracie Crespo said:

Is the population as a collective being bombarded by remote viewers to try to negatively influence those on the edge?

[Nancy Lieder]

Declined as thought this may or may not have been shot down by the Council of Worlds, this was well covered in the past and would likely be for similar reasons. Also, take note that NO nation is run top down, so that the top guys orders and all others follow. There are many agendas, and many groups with agendas, that function in the US and I'm sure in Russia too. Middle men, not the top guy. These satellites were also built by students, in Europe, in part. Lots of fingers in the pie! I'd blame European agendas, not Russia. Russia had failures in 2011, 2012, 2013, and 2014 brought down by the Council of Worlds. This issue thus is redundant to past ZetaTalk, and given all that is going on now, not a priority.  

http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/24ma2014.htm

https://sputniknews.com/russia/201711281059490197-vostochny-soyuz-rocket/

https://sputniknews.com/russia/201711281059496152-russia-loses-contact-satellite/

Stanislav said:

The ambitions of the Russian Government were again interrupted?

[Kris H]

Hi Nancy,
Russia may be creating their own Internet with the BRICS nations. Is this related to Nibiru disclosure? It seems like the BRICS countries may be more interested in a more widespread discussion of Nibiru and its various effects.
https://www.rt.com/politics/411156-russia-to-launch-independent-int...
Thanks.

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted, and will add the news that Russia has established a new Charge Card, the MIR, which all government employees are to use. Seems independence from the West is top priority. Very pregnant. 

Kris H said:

Russia may be creating their own Internet with the BRICS nations. 

Is this related to Nibiru disclosure? It seems like the BRICS countries may be more interested in a more widespread discussion of Nibiru and its various effects.
[and from another]
Putin signed amendments to currency control. Looks like addition to National Payment System promotion. Soon, everybody in Russia, who work in budget (noncommercial) sphere, should get new personal "Mir" payment cards, as replacement of international MasterCard and Visa. State Duma doesn’t provide choice to Russians, what card providers preferenced. So, now we have free-serviced payment cards "Mir" and if we need to pay for some international services, who are not support our payment system, we must to make second card of MasterCard or Visa and pay for service from own pockets.
[and from another]
https://www.rt.com/politics/411156-russia-to-launch-independent-int...
The Russian Security Council has asked the country’s government to develop an independent internet infrastructure for BRICS nations, which would continue to work in the event of global internet malfunctions. President Vladimir Putin personally set a deadline of August 1, 2018 for the completion of the task. The problem should be addressed by creating a separate backup system of Domain Name Servers (DNS), which would not be subject to control by international organizations. This system would be used by countries of the BRICS bloc – Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa.
[and from another]
http://en.kremlin.ru/acts/news/56127
Vladimir Putin signed Federal Law on Amendments to Articles 19 and 23 of the Federal Law on Currency Regulation and Currency Control and the Code of Administrative Offenses. November 18, 2017

SOZT
BRICS was established in 2006 to counter control
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue414.htm
by western banks such as the International Monetary Fund (IMF) which seeks to turn developing nations into slave states, owned by debt. Instead of draconian interest rates, BRICS operated almost like a non-profit. But debt slavery was not the only issue to be addressed. ICANN control
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue523.htm
was transferred from the US to international control just ahead of the 2016 elections, where the threat of control
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/08oc2016.htm
by Hillary and Soros was looming as a possibility.

Financial bribes take many forms, with the most common being trade arrangements. Punishment by banning trade is one such maneuver. Exorbitant prices in tight markets and back room deals to compensate trade partners is another. But for Russia and China, this is hardly a threat from the West, as the West is going bankrupt. Former colonial masters - the Deep State in the US and European countries - are not expected to go quietly into the night. When an animal is trapped, back to the wall, it gets vicious, and the West is expected to attempt control maneuvers as the End Times progress.

This includes draconian interest rates from western banks for credit card use or other banking services. Inserting the new Russian MIR credit card is addressing that issue, especially as it is free to Russian citizens. Establishing a BRICS Internet is a relatively easy task, as there is nothing to stop Russia from lofting its own Domain Name Servers (DNS) into the skies, so BRICS and other countries can access the Internet by this route. This is a redundant Internet service, but otherwise harmless, and prevents the games that may be planned from succeeding. Life goes on, outside of western control.
EOZT

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/08oc2016.htm
Should the public fear the loss of control by the US government over ICANN? They should rather have feared continuing control by the Bush/Clinton crime family, who are so ensconced in election fraud techniques that George W Bush became the President in 2000 and 2004 when his opponents actually won. So practiced in election fraud methods that Sanders in fact won the Democratic Primary, but was only allowed to claim his win in caucus states where there were too many witnesses for the Hillary theft to be successful. If Hillary cannot be stopped in the US, George Soros and the Hillary crime family would indeed use the Internet in their attempts to take over the world. Thus, this ICANN move was timely and necessary.

[Shaun Kazuck]

Hello:

While the Zetas did cover the revelations of Harvey Weinstein as being part of the attack on the Clinton crime cabal, what is to be made about the never ending revelations coming out about big names in network news, and both in front of and behind the camera in movies?  Most of these individuals were well known to be as they are for decades yet only now, things are being brought to light.  Is this an attempt to hurt the media empires that have, since 2012, blocked the announcement regarding Nibiru?  Will the continuous revelations lead the public to trust them less and less so when the truth about Nibiru comes out, it will be the last straw in the public's trust?

Thanks!  

[Nancy Lieder]

Declined as it is, as you have stated, kind of "on its face" obvious, plus recently covered in a November newsletter and new ZT. 

http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue579.htm

What is surprising is the number of people getting negative press in media outlets considered leftist, Hillary friendly. The Hillary hugging media was certainly willing to attack a Republican and certainly has tried to attack Trump in the past. Harvey Weinstein is both Jewish and a Hollywood legend, so both would qualify him as a Hillary backer, which he was. Meanwhile, exposing Hillary’s hand in the Uranium One deal is in process. What is the outcome of the exposure of misbehavior in both the Bush and Clinton clans?

As we have repeatedly stated, both the Bush and Clinton clans are part of the cover-up over Nibiru, and desperately sought the White House in 2016 for that reason. Both Jeb and Hillary were running. As admissions about Nibiru increasingly occur in the media, along with reporting on Earth changes and signs in the skies that point to Nibiru nearby, the cover-up is expected to counter. Surely former Presidents would have known! Now, recently disgraced, they will have less influence. Why is the media cooperating? 

All media outlets have top managers who can be threatened or bribed. The lie that was spread in years past, that the passage would only result in high tides and some minor earthquakes, has been disproven with the palpable Earth wobble and EMP assaults. Top managers have been offered safe haven, so the Junta in charge of the US and the Puppet Master’s vast financial network have more leverage. Expect these trends to increase rapidly, where Nibiru signs are featured and the Bush and Clinton cabals are discredited.

http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31oc2017.htm

[Nancy Lieder]

From Alberto, detail about a Bomerang object, this this new ZT: 

Are there two instances of String of Pearls? This latest by Alberto seems to show the usual cluster of moons close to Nibiru, where the String of Pearls has been found recently on Alberto’s photos, but yet another in a Boomerang shape flung up in the tail on the left! Both have shown up together in the recent past, in 2014 and 2016.

SOZT
As our early description of the Moon Swirls
http://www.zetatalk.com/science/s123.htm
stated, the Moons are simultaneously trying to cluster together, due to gravity draw, while keeping each other at a distance due to the Repulsion Force. As the Nibiru complex draws closer, the moons themselves become more defined. Yes, there is more than one String of Pearls, the first ranging closer to Nibiru itself and another, which Nancy aptly termed the Boomerang, flung at a distance. The Boomerang shows the string collapsing upon itself, as moons along the string reach across as well as along the string, thus the appearance of a V.
EOZT

Prior 2001 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/science/s123.htm
Why do the moons trail, and spin in a slow whirlwind behind Nibiru, rather than orbit the planet? They are all stuck in a corridor behind the planet, not able to leave, not able to pass each other, and not able to catch the planet to reinstated a circular orbit around it. This swirl, unique to man in any comets or planets it observes, is what caused the ancients to call the passing monster, red in the sky because of its illuminated red dust cloud, a dragon, lashing its tail, the swirl of moons.

Prior 1995 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/science/s34.htm
The reason mankind is unaware of a repulsive force, also inherent in gravity, is that for this to become evident there must be a semblance of equality in size and weight, i.e. the mass of the objects, and freedom of movement such as exists in space, and lack of undue influence from other nearby objects.