ZetaTalk Chat for May 13, 2017

[Nancy Lieder]

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This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 70 [73] years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

[Stanislav]

Hi Nancy and Zetas,

Don't have to be a genius to understand who is behind Macron (and what he is like as a candidate). The day before the election, "Unknowns" posted a Macronleaks (letters from his pre-election headquarters). Are they genuine? The headquarters of the Macron confirm the hacker attack. Much more interesting who did this.

Macrongeit: hackers have unearthed offshore accounts of Macron and the substance on the "c"

Source: vesti.ru

We have not yet discovered fakes in #MacronLeaks & we are very skeptical that the Macron campaign is faster than us. Source: twitter.com/wikileaks

Thanks

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted

Stanislav said:

Don't have to be a genius to understand who is behind Macron (and what he is like as a candidate).

The day before the election, "Unknowns" posted a Macronleaks (letters from his pre-election headquarters). Are they genuine? The headquarters of the Macron confirm the hacker attack. Much more interesting who did this.
[and from another]
http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=2885464&2885464
Macrongeit: hackers have unearthed offshore accounts of Macron and the substance on the "c".
[and from another]
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/860638153471918081
We have not yet discovered fakes in #MacronLeaks & we are very skeptical that the Macron campaign is faster than us.
[and from another]
https://twitter.com/hashtag/MacronLeaks?src=hash
[and from another]
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/emmanuel-macron-emai...
France's electoral commission has ordered media not to publish contents of Emmanuel Macron's leaked campaign emails to avoid influencing the election. It warned news outlets in France that journalists could face criminal charges for publishing or republishing the material, under laws that came into effect at midnight forbidding any commentary liable to affect the presidential race. As much as 9GB gigabytes of data were posted on a profile called EMLEAKS to an anonymous document sharing site under two days before the final vote. While French election rules forbid the media from publishing the emails, they also ban Mr Macron or his team from commenting on or denying any allegations.



SOZT
As with other email hacks, this was NOT done by Wikileaks nor any identifiable human agent, including any mythical Slavic employee whose fingerprints might be found amidst the hacked data. Once again, this hack was done at the behest of the Council of Worlds to counter the elite in Europe who still seek to remain above the common man and deny the public the right to information about the pending passage of Nibiru. The massive email dump provided is valid, as is already being admitted by the Macron campaign.

Will this make a difference in the election, which as most elections in Europe over the past few years is set to be stolen by fraud? Brexit reflected the valid voter intent, and it is possible to counter fraud, but as of this writing the outcome is not yet decided. Though the French media has banned discussion on the contents of the emails, the Internet it alive with discussion, and the emails made available to the public via this route. They show what the public suspects, that Macron is an elitist, with offshore accounts, and not ethical.
EOZT

[J Ph]

Hi Nancy and the Zetas,

Did the result of the French presidential elections reflect the real voter intent this time? 
Thanks!

[Stanislav]

Hi Nancy and Zetas,

I would like to add to the question above. Since the middle of 2016, we have seen many hacks by aliens. This warning to the elite (as in 2014) is something like: "Announce Nibiru"? Will this continue? What is the position of the Council of the Worlds in regard to the fact that announcements will most likely not be made?
Joseph said:

Hi Nancy and the Zetas,

Did the result of the French presidential elections reflect the real voter intent this time? 
Thanks!

[Nancy Lieder]

le Pen and Macron each got apx 25% on 1st run, so 50% were still to decide. Turnout was low, indicating that NEITHER candidate was that appetizing. Yes, the vote reported may not be 100% correct but Macron won. When the Zetas stated "it is possible to counter fraud, but as of this writing the outcome is not yet decided." they were saying: 

1. election fraud was being planned.  There was evidence of fraud intent in bad ballots for le Pen and double ballots for Macron, yesterday, but it appears this was not a close call.

2. election fraud would/could be countered, but if the vote counting centers report a lie anyway, the Council of Worlds efforts would be themselves countered. Man still has free will.

2. the French people have not yet decided. The Council of Worlds will not CREATE a false election, will only support the vote of the people. 

Joseph said:

Did the result of the French presidential elections reflect the real voter intent this time?

[Nancy Lieder]

Declined as thought I also would like to know the Council's plans, the Zetas will simply not give them away, as this only empowers the cover-up.

Stanislav said:

What is the position of the Council of the Worlds in regard to the fact that announcements will most likely not be made?

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email:

Any comments on this display? If it was more than just "Here we are, look at us", what were they doing?
[and from another]
https://youtu.be/HQHYGR5TJUM
Tulsa Oklahoma.? Gnats. I f/b messaged the guy. His name is Darren Stephen. He said it was gnats.?
[and from another]
https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/68451a/waterbased_ufos_26417/
Those crafts are using the extra generated energy (charged particles) that is stored in the clouds and somehow creating a low voltage point to draw in the energy, that's why you see these "thruster" like effects which infact are arching electricity.
[and from another]
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/67pnur/stormchaser_ufos/
We get tons of lightning (firefly) bugs during warm afternoons/evenings.  But it was a chilly day today across Oklahoma. I know here in OKC was mid 50's and I'd assume the same for Stillwater. Don't know how that/or if it messes with fireflys but just wanted to point that out. If it was bugs, the part emitting the light would have been dark in contrast to the background when it wasn't lighting up. In this case it's the space behind the objects lighting up in a flare. The "flare"/thrust component is certainly a little hard to explain and how fast one of the object zooms off.
[and from another]
https://www.universetoday.com/75695/how-do-tornadoes-form/
The cold air drops as the warm air rises. The warm air eventually twists into a spiral and forms the funnel cloud that we all associate with a tornado.
SOZT
The moving UFO’s captured on this weather cam are not gnats or fireflies, despite the association with a lighted cloud area near the dark dot on occasion. Note that the light area LINGERS, where a firefly would only record a momentary blink of light on the camera. Nor is the lit area showing, as some theorized, a UFO thrust, as though a propellant were the power source. The lit area falls behind the moving UFO as the UFO has CHANGED the cloud composition there. As was noted in October, 2016
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/29oc2016.htm
when UFO’s were captured breaking up chemtrails, a UFO can change the composition of a cloud.

What are the dynamics in place
https://www.universetoday.com/75695/how-do-tornadoes-form/
just prior to a tornado funnel cloud?  Temperature differences, with colder (heavier) air above a warm (less dense) air layer. The cold air drops creating a void for the light air to rise.  As all rapidly moving water or air masses do on the face of the globe, this rising air starts to rotate. To abort a tornado, one must change the temperature or density of the air, which is what the UFO’s are doing here. There are of course more UFO’s involved, in the dark clouds, but their activity cannot be seen.  
EOZT

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/29oc2016.htm
This is a valid video, and indeed a UFO disbursing chemtrails. This demonstration was done for several reasons. One was to register support for the public who had been furious about having their view of Nibiru blocked, lo these many years. The second was to show the public that the chemtrail haze could be disbursed in an instant by UFO’s. The Council of Worlds wants the public to be aware of the presence of Nibiru, and the pending passage, so they can make their spiritual choices, take action, prior to potentially dying in the Pole Shift. What would worldwide visibility of Nibiru bring, if suddenly made possible?

[Matt B]

Hello Nancy and Zetas.

Without detailing matters still in play behind the scenes, do the Zetas have any comment on President Trump's dismissal of FBI Director, James Comey? Is there more to this move than restoring "public trust and confidence" in the FBI?

Thank you for considering these questions.

Trump dismisses FBI director Comey

http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stories/2017/05/10/trump-dismiss...

US President Donald Trump has abruptly fired FBI Director James Comey, ousting the nation's top law enforcement official in the midst of an investigation into whether Trump's campaign had ties to Russia's election meddling.

In a letter to Comey on Tuesday, Trump said the firing was necessary to restore 'public trust and confidence' in the FBI.

Comey has come under intense scrutiny in recent months for his role in an investigation into Democrat Hillary Clinton's email practices, including a pair of letters he sent to Congress on the matter in the closing days of last year's election.

Trump made no mention of Comey's role in the Clinton investigation. But the president did assert that Comey informed him 'on three separate occasions that I am not under investigation.'

The White House said the search for a new FBI director was beginning immediately.

The stunning announcement came shortly after the FBI corrected a sentence in Comey's sworn testimony on Capitol Hill last week. Comey told lawmakers that Huma Abedin, a top aide to Hillary Clinton, had sent 'hundreds and thousands' of emails to her husband's laptop, including some with classified information.

On Tuesday, the FBI said in a two-page letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee that only 'a small number' of the thousands of emails found on the laptop had been forwarded there while most had simply been backed up from electronic devices. Most of the email chains on the laptop containing classified information were not the result of forwarding, the FBI said.

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted.

Matt B said:

Without detailing matters still in play behind the scenes, do the Zetas have any comment on President Trump's dismissal of FBI Director, James Comey?

Is there more to this move than restoring "public trust and confidence" in the FBI?
[and from another]
Does this termination have to do with Comey refuting Trump’s tweet about the FISA courts (which later proved to be correct) OR fact that Susan Rice was behind almost 2,000 National Security unmaskings during the Obama fishing expedition OR because Comey close Hillary’s home brew server investigation last July OR because FBI Deputy McCabe’s wife took almost $1 million from Hillary sources OR because Rosenstein just got confirmed 2 weeks ago? Or all of the above.
[and from another]
http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stories/2017/05/10/trump-dismiss...
US President Donald Trump has abruptly fired FBI Director James Comey, ousting the nation's top law enforcement official in the midst of an investigation into whether Trump's campaign had ties to Russia's election meddling. In a letter to Comey on Tuesday, Trump said the firing was necessary to restore 'public trust and confidence' in the FBI. Trump made no mention of Comey's role in the Clinton investigation. But the president did assert that Comey informed him 'on three separate occasions that I am not under investigation.' The White House said the search for a new FBI director was beginning immediately. The stunning announcement came shortly after the FBI corrected a sentence in Comey's sworn testimony on Capitol Hill last week.
[and from another]
https://www.infowars.com/breaking-trump-to-comey-youre-fired/
Over the weekend, Comey also called on the Justice Department to refute a Tweet sent by Trump that claimed the Obama administration had ordered a wiretap on Trump Tower. The White House issued a statement requesting committees also look into the possibility the previous administration may have abused its executive authority. Comey was appointed FBI director by President Obama in 2013.
[and from another]
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4489966/Trump-fires-James-C...
Comey, who was appointed in 2013, was dismissed after he provided false testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee about classified emails from Hillary Clinton aide Huma Abedin found on Anthony Weiner's computer. Attorney General Jeff Sessions told the president it was time for Comey to go after his evidence that Huma Abedin forwarded hundreds or thousands of emails to her husband Anthony Weiner, some of them classified, was wrong. The FBI deputy director, Andrew McCabe, will act as leader until there is a permanent appointment confirmed by the Senate.
[and from another]
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-comey-idUSKBN1852MV?il=0
U.S. President Donald Trump ignited a political firestorm on Tuesday by firing FBI Director James Comey, who had been leading an investigation into the Trump 2016 presidential campaign's possible collusion with Russia to influence the election outcome. The Republican president said he fired Comey, the top U.S. law enforcement official, over his handling of an election-year email scandal involving then-Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton. The move stunned Washington and raised suspicions among Democrats and others that the White House was trying to blunt the FBI probe involving Russia. Some Democrats compared Trump's move to the "Saturday Night Massacre" of 1973, in which President Richard Nixon fired an independent special prosecutor investigating the Watergate scandal.
[and from another]
http://nypost.com/2016/10/24/clinton-ally-gave-500k-to-wife-of-fbi-...
Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe, a longtime Clinton confidant, helped steer $675,000 to the election campaign of the wife of an FBI official who went on to lead the probe into Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email system. The political action committee of McAuliffe, the Clinton loyalist, gave $467,500 to the state Senate campaign of the wife of Andrew McCabe, who is now deputy director of the FBI. Associate Deputy Director McCabe was promoted to Deputy, where, in that position, he assumed for the first time, an oversight role in the investigation into Secretary Clinton’s emails.

SOZT
Why was Comey fired? The Democrats scream that Trump was trying to deflect and influence an investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 campaign. Recent hearings on the supposed Russian influence have not brought forth proof of any Trump wrongdoing, but rather proof that the Obama administration, in support of Hillary, used National Security excuses to go on extensive fishing expeditions, looking for connections. They found no Trump wrongdoing, but did find that Trump was correct in his tweets – FISA courts were used. Comey, notably, protested loudly that this fact should not be revealed to the public.  

The Republicans focused on the motive for Comey’s dismissal being due to Comey abortively closing the investigation into Hillary’s homebrew server last July, a motive laid out in the Comey dismissal letter. Comey had been appointed by Obama in 2013, and had a Deputy, McCabe, whose wife accepted close to a million dollars in campaign funds from Hillary associated sources, so had a taint in this matter. Where Comey laid out the problems with Hillary’s homebrew server arrangement, describing Hillary’s crimes as “careless” rather than criminal, he aborted the investigation, at least publically.

As we stated last July,  
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue511.htm
a plea deal for Hillary was in process at that time. Massive money laundering with the Clinton Foundation funds had been uncovered, and was being prosecuted by Dunford’s secret military courts. Since the matter of Dunford being in charge was to be kept secret, the Clinton Foundation prosecution likewise had to remain secret. Hillary was eventually placed under house arrest, still her current status, and prevented from escaping to Qatar.
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue527.htm
Meanwhile, Comey struggled to relay the facts to the public, as Hillary was still on the ballot, choosing to reopen the email investigation a week before the election due to Weiner’s laptop.

Comey has thus struggled with divided loyalties, wanting to protect the FBI’s image and the fact that Obama used the FISA courts to fish for dirt on Trump, while cooperating with Dunford’s secret courts behind the scenes. Does this not make him one of the good guys? During all of this maneuvering, he lost the respect of the field agents who wanted Hillary prosecuted. He also proceeded on his own during the July press conference, thus is now considered a wild card, not a team player.

The Trump administration just had public testimony on the Russian influence matter, now of record, and secured confirmation of appointee Rosenstein. Replacing Comey had always been planned, but confirming Trump appointments had to precede a termination. What of Hillary? Will her handling of her homebrew server be reopened, and prosecuted? This is highly likely, in part so that the public will focus again on HER crimes, rather than hypothetical Russian influence crimes touted by the Republicans.
EOZT

Prio ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/09jy2016.htm
What is to be made of Comey’s statements on July 5th, declining to recommend prosecution of Hillary over her homebrew email server setup? Notably missing during his very detailed explanation of the FBI process in this matter was any mention of the Clinton Foundation, which is under investigation for public corruption, a situation where a public official sells public assets for personal gain. There are two investigations that emerged as a result of the FBI confiscation of email scraps and deleted email on Hillary’s homebrew server. Only the server setup was addressed on July 5th by Comey.

[James Lechago]

This does not seem to be too serious on the face of it but it leaves me wondering if it was not an assassination attempt on Trump's life. there were some deviations from the standard operating procedure at the Boeing plant that services the planes of Air Force One during the maintenance of these planes. Here is the link to the article: http://www.businessinsider.com/mechanics-contaminated-air-force-one...

Can the Zetas tell us if this was an attempt on Trump's life? If so are there any details that they can share about the forces at work behind this?

[Nancy Lieder]

This article indicates the sloppy cleaning, leaving the potential for fire, was done in early 2016, when Hillary was expected to win, and in fact even before Trump was the nominee of the Republican party! So no way it could have been an attempt at Trump.

"The shoddy work took place during routine maintenance checks performed from April 1 through April 10 of 2016."

James Lechago said:

This does not seem to be too serious on the face of it but it leaves me wondering if it was not an assassination attempt on Trump's life.

[Nancy Lieder]

As is our usual practice, we are closing this 5/13 Q&A so answers can be prepared for the web. Please post your new questions on the chat for 5/20. Thank you.

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