ZetaTalk Chat for June 30, 2024

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Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 78 years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

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Permalink Reply by Shanyn Carey Gene Wolfe on June 9, 2024 at 9:16am

In this documentary about sun gazing, sun gazers make claims that, as they continue to spend time gazing at the sun everyday, the less they feel hungry. One man claims to have not eatten solid food for over 5 years as a result of his daily sun gazing ritual. Is there any truth in this? Is sun gazing truly an ancient practice?

https://youtu.be/ZM9iDdkKZ7M?si=f_VEwS_GuGU1KjPS

Permalink Reply by Nancy Lieder on June 9, 2024 at 3:04pm

Declined, Zetas dealth with this in the past, a fraud.

[https://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue292.htm]

ZetaTalk 7/15/1995: [https://www.zetatalk.com/myths/m17.htm] A falsehood promulgated by Yogis is that they nourish themselves not with the same food and water required by mere humans whom they would lead, but by the absorption of light energy, called Divine Nectar. This is a falsehood difficult for the follower to disprove, as to put in place the controls necessary to disprove the proposition, the follower would have to highly insult the master. Why do Yogi Masters purport that this practice works? What's in it for them? Most do so simply to raise their status among their followers.

Shanyn Carey Gene Wolfe said:

In this documentary about sun gazing, sun gazers make claims that, as they continue to spend time gazing at the sun everyday, the less they feel hungry.

Permalink Reply by Nancy Lieder on June 9, 2024 at 3:18pm

Declined as they completely ignore Nibiru and the effect of the Pacific Plate being 4 separate plates, as they Zetas have detail. We would just be repeating our prior predictions and explanations.

Kamil Rak said:

An underwater fault could devastate the West Coast with a major earthquake and tsunami. Researchers mapped it comprehensively for the first time.

Permalink Reply by Nancy Lieder on June 9, 2024 at 4:47pm

I run a Russian-language telegram channel of Zetatalk followers. Recently, I have been getting a lot of questions about Mt. Elbrus. In the site's safe places materials, nothing is mentioned about this volcano, which is located in the great Caucasus mountain range. We know that the Eurasian plate is stretching. We also know that all volcanoes will be active during the pole shift, hence the question for many people living in this region is how big an eruption should we expect from this dormant volcano and will it happen before the pole shift?
[and from another]
Volcanoes Awakening
https://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue611.htm
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Elbrus
Mount Elbrus is the highest mountain in Russia and Europe. It is situated in the western part of the North Caucasus and is the highest peak of the Caucasus Mountains. Mount Elbrus was formed more than 2.5 million years ago. The volcano is currently considered dormant. Elbrus was active in the Holocene, and according to the Global Volcanism Program, the last eruption took place about AD 50. Evidence of recent volcanism includes several lava flows on the mountain, which look fresh, and roughly 260 square kilometres (100 sq mi) of volcanic debris. The longest flow extends 24 kilometres (15 mi) down the northeast summit, indicative of a large eruption. There are other signs of activity on the volcano, including solfataric activity and hot springs.

SOZT
We have stated that all volcanoes active within the last 10,000 years will become active during the forthcoming Pole Shift, as many have during the current Plate Movements. The Alps were raised high during previous Africa Rolls, as were the mountains in the Caucasus range. But where the Alps are dormant at present the Mt Elbrus region is being aggressively stretched during this current passage of Nibiru.

Where a stretch should relieve pressure, it can also open new pathways between Magma chambers and the surface. In that Mt Elbrus has had lava flows within the past 2,000 years, it should be considered an active volcano, with an open path to the surface. If such a lava flow is deep and wide, this could result in the immediate 100 mile radius of Mt Elbrus to prove dangerous, as is our advice for all active volcanoes. We have mentioned that the Black Sea
https://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue739.htm
will open to the Mediterranean during the Pole Shift, but without trauma for those living on the shores of the Black Sea. But we have also cautioned that Istanbul
https://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx027.htm
can expect disaster during the stretch caused by the Africa Roll during the current New Madrid Adjustment.
EOZT

Prior 2/15/2000 ZT:
https://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p120.htm
All volcanoes that have been active within the memory of man will begin spewing and burping and oozing, and many that were not expected to become active will reactive. We have stated that all volcanoes active within the last 10,000 years can be considered candidates to blow, or ooze during the shift.

Prior 2010 ZT:
https://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx014.htm
Many small countries stretching east of Italy will find themselves distressed during the pole shift, due to the volatility of the volcanoes in Italy that will explode during the plate movements that accompany the pole shift. The Alps were built during such plate movements, and Italy is in the subduction zone. Adjustments in plate positioning made around the world will be felt in this region. Land lying to the east of Italy will thus find themselves in the path of heavy volcanic dust. The foothills and mountains to the east of the Balkans, including inactive volcanoes have not experienced problems during recent prior shifts, however, nor will they this time. It is safer to move to the East, as this also removes one from the larger volcanoes in the Mediterranean, which will blow toward what is now south afterwards, which will become the new east. However, any trip east it a bit further into colder climate, although Slovenia will be temperate enough in the Aftertime.

Permalink Reply by Nancy Lieder on June 9, 2024 at 7:34pm

The sky in Shenyang, Liaoning this afternoon!
https://x.com/yangyubin1998/status/1799414127976497497
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Mammatus Clouds
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammatus_cloud
They are usually composed of ice, but also can be a mixture of ice and liquid water or be composed of almost entirely liquid water. True to their ominous appearance, mammatus clouds are often harbingers of a coming storm or other extreme weather system. Typically composed primarily of ice, they can extend for hundreds of miles in each direction and individual formations can remain visibly static for ten to fifteen minutes at a time.

SOZT
Mammatus cloud forebode thunderstorms but is there a nexus for Beijing between the heat wave being suffered there and the signs that China is burning from methane released from the ripping rock? The sustained heat that ripping rock produces, when the Methane burns, can indeed result in a heat wave.

China has been stretched over the past few years, causing methane release with melting roads and methane poisoned school children in Beijing and a roaring dragon in the mountains due to solid rock vibrating when being pulled apart. The fault lines in China converge on Beijing, avoiding the big belly. So when any China Belly Blowout occurs, Beijing will be at the center.
EOZT

Permalink Reply by Nancy Lieder on June 10, 2024 at 4:41pm

On Saturday, 6/08/024, the Michipicoten, a Michigan freighter loaded with iron ore [taconite pellets], ran into something underwater in NW Lake Superior inside the Michigan boundary. Was this due to the NMA rip with land heaving?
[and from another]
There was a ship that was hit something under water and damaged the ship seemingly out of nowhere in the following video. Do you or the Zetas have any idea what this could be?
[and from another]
https://youtu.be/BQ_tqNQrJLo?si=kogeKVVlbRCSwfvT
[and from another]
Freighter Ship in Lake Superior Collides with Underwater Object, U.S. Coast Guards Says
June 8, 2024
https://torontosun.com/news/world/freighter-ship-in-lake-superior-c...
The Michipicoten had collided with something about 56 kilometres southwest of Isle Royale, which is part of the state of Michigan. The ship was carrying taconite, which is a low-grade iron ore, and had 22 people aboard. Water pumps onboard began displacing water, authorities said, and there were no signs that anything spilled from the ship. By 9:15 a.m., water pumps had reduced the listing of the freighter from 15 degrees to 5 degrees. Authorities say the cause of the collision will be investigated.
[and from another]
Freighter taking on water after underwater collision on Lake Superior
June 8, 2024
https://www.stripes.com/branches/coast_guard/2024-06-08/freighter-s...
Isle Royale is about 20 miles east of Grand Portage, Minn., just south of the Canadian border. It’s not immediately clear whether the ship is in Minnesota or Michigan waters.
[and from another]
https://www.startribune.com/freighter-ship-taking-on-water-after-un...
[and from another]
https://www.13abc.com/2024/06/08/689-foot-freighter-lake-superior-c...
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https://www.randlog.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Rand-Vessel-Prof...
[and from another]
https://www.startribune.com/freighter-ship-taking-on-water-after-un...
[and from another]
https://zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue368.htm

SOZT
We have detailed how the New Madrid Adjustment will alter the path of the Seaway, bypassing Lake Erie by going from Lake Ontario to Lake Huron. Meanwhile the top part of Michigan will lob to the West and Wisconsin will find its Green Bay expanding. What changes might Lake Superior experience? We explained why the Seaway path avoids Wisconsin
https://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx038.htm
by running through Lake Superior, and thence out beyond Duluth to the rumpled Black Hills. The Seaway is taking the easy path along rock strata that allows ripping.

Shipping channels are selected for being a direct line between ports when possible, and only secondarily for being deep water. Both Isle Royale and Thunder Bay are not in deep water but are more akin to a fracturing shore line. As the Seaway widens, there will be more room for the water and thus the overall depth of the Great Lakes will drop, exposing the rocky bottom. This is what happened to the Michipicoten. The Coast Guard will have to update their depth charts. This is another example of Zetas RIGHT Again re the Seaway path and a widening Seaway.
EOZT

Prior 2010 ZT: https://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx038.htm
The Seaway split has chosen to run through Duluth, MN and on west from there rather than through Wisconsin where the bond between the various rock stratas is of a stronger nature. The Seaway can be expected to proceed, thus, beyond Duluth, creating a crevasse again through upper Minnesota, with sympathetic rumpling of lands all the way to the Black Hills. Wisconsin has been splitting along rock strata too, creating the Green Bay peninsula at the juncture of Green Bay and the body of Wisconsin, as the peninsula has a different rock type. This split will continue and widen, creating a bay all the way to Madison and potentially through to the upper Mississippi, although this breach will certainly occur at Chicago through the canals dug under this city.

Prior ZT: https://www.zetatalk2.com/ning/30ju2024.htm
The Mainland Portion deals with the loss of the SE Portion by skewing along and under the Seaway. As the Mainland Portion shifts to the SW, it will pull Chicago and the lower Great Lakes with it, thus eventually creating a bypass between Lake Ontario and Lake Huron. Michigan will tilt during this process, leaning its top part to the West. The canals used in the past to port barges from Chicago to the Mississippi will rupture, scouring this waterway. During the New Madrid Rupture the eastern Mainland stays attached to the Eurasian Plate, though a Void opens there to allow tsunami waters to rush toward Europe. As Africa rolls, the SE Portion is pulled down and toward the East, thus the Seaway must widen.

Permalink Reply by Shaun Kazuck on June 10, 2024 at 7:07pm

Hello:

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/went-radar-military-plane-ca...

Thanks!

Permalink Reply by Nancy Lieder on June 10, 2024 at 7:37pm

Acceptted if we have time to address this.

Shaun Kazuck said:

Another plane carrying a high ranking politician has "disappeared".

Permalink Reply by Nancy Lieder on June 11, 2024 at 2:45pm

Another plane carrying a high ranking politician has "disappeared". Unlike Iran, I noticed that the plane disappeared on the southern end of the African rift. I noticed they used the same excuse as with Iran, that the aircraft was old and should have been decommissioned. Was this Africa roll related or political?
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"Went Off Radar": Military Plane Carrying Malawi's Vice President Goes Missing
June 10, 2024
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/went-radar-military-plane-ca...
A military plane carrying Malawi's vice president and nine others has gone missing, sparking a massive search operation. Vice President Saulos Chilima's plane left the capital, Lilongwe, and failed to land at Mzuzu International Airport - about 230 miles north.
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US Bars 4 Former Malawi Officials over Corruption, State Department Says
April 17, 2024
https://www.voanews.com/a/us-bars-four-former-malawi-officials-over...
The United States has barred four former officials of the Malawi government from entry because of their involvement in significant corruption, the State Department said. The officials designated are former solicitor general and secretary of justice Reyneck Matemba, former director of public procurement and disposal of assets John Suzi-Banda, former Malawi Police Service attorney Mwabi Kaluba, and former Inspector General of the Malawi Police Service George Kainj. The four were cited by the State Department as having "abused their public positions by accepting bribes and other articles of value" from a private business person in exchange for a government police contract. Malawi President Lazarus Chakwera has waged a crackdown on corruption in recent years. In January 2022, he dissolved the country's entire Cabinet on charges of corruption against three serving ministers. Later that year, Malawi's Anti-Corruption Bureau arrested and charged the country's vice president, Saulos Klaus Chilima, over graft allegations.
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Aircraft Carrying Malawi’s Vice President Is Missing
June 10. 2024
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/10/world/africa/aircraft-carrying-m...
Vice President Saulos Chilima was traveling on a Malawi Defense Force aircraft that took off at 9:17 a.m. Monday from the capital, Lilongwe. But it missed a scheduled landing at an airport in the north of the country, less than an hour’s flight away. The aircraft disappeared from radar and aviation authorities have been unable to establish contact with it. Mr. Chilima, 51, is was a telecommunications executive before entering Malawi’s political scene a decade ago. In late 2022 he became embroiled in a corruption scandal and was arrested by the country’s Anti-Corruption Bureau over accusations that he received kickbacks from a businessman in exchange for government contracts. Mr. Chilima denied any wrongdoing, but the accusations tarnished a government that had sworn to clean up corruption in what is one of Africa’s poorest countries. Last month, authorities in Malawi abandoned the case and withdrew all charges against Mr. Chilima. Mr. Chilima was expected to launch a bid for the Malawian presidency in the 2025 election.
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Malawi Vice President Dr. Saulos Chilima killed in Plane Crash with Wife, 8 Others
June 11, 2024
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/malawi-vice-president-saulos-chilima-d...
Air traffic officials said the plane had been unable to land at Mzuzu airport, about 200 miles north of the capital, due to poor visibility, and the pilot had been advised to return to Lilongwe when the flight disappeared.

SOZT
Malawi has been in the news for corruption among its top politicians in recent years. The US State Department has banned several former Malawi officials for corruption. The current VP Saulos Chilima was cited by Malawi officials for accepting a cash bribe in 2022, then forgiven, and now wants to run for the Presidency. On its face it appears that intractable corruption rules in Malawi. This plane crash was not an accident, but a deliberate assassination by anti-corruption parties in Malawi to remove the head of the snake.
EOZT

Permalink Reply by Recall 15 on June 11, 2024 at 7:39pm