ZetaTalk Chat for June 30, 2018

[Nancy Lieder]

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Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 70 [73] years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

[Matt B]

Hello Nancy and Zetas.

President Trump has announced plans for the creation of an entirely new branch of the United States Military - the Space Force.

It is anticipated that the United States Space Force will play a leading role in strategic and scientific efforts in space, including efforts to revisit the Moon and undertake missions to Mars.

Do the Zetas have any comment on the new Space Force? What is the purpose of bringing matters of space within the control of the US Military?

Thank you for considering these questions.

Trump directs Pentagon to create military Space Force

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-space-force-pentagon-create-mili...

President Trump officially directed the Pentagon to establish a sixth branch of the U.S. military in space on Monday. Speaking at a National Space Council meeting at the White House, Mr. Trump called for a "space force" to ensure American dominance on the high frontier.

The president also signed his administration's third Space Policy Directive, calling for establishment of new protocols and procedures to manage and monitor the increasing numbers of satellites in low-Earth orbit and the tens of thousands of pieces of space junk and debris that pose an increasing threat to costly spacecraft.

The directive follows on the heels of two other major space policy initiatives being implemented by the National Space Council, one calling for returning humans to the moon before eventual missions to Mars and another aimed at streamlining the federal space bureaucracy to reduce red tape and streamline licensing and oversight of commercial space activity.

...

"My administration is reclaiming America's heritage as the world's greatest space-faring nation," he went on. "The essence of the American character is to explore new horizons and to tame new frontiers. But our destiny, beyond the Earth, is not only a matter of national identity, but a matter of national security."

He said when it comes to defending America, "it is not enough to merely have an American presence in space. We must have American dominance in space."

"Very importantly, I'm hereby directing the Department of Defense and Pentagon to immediately begin the process necessary to establish a space force as the sixth branch of the armed forces. ... We are going to have the Air Force, and we are going to have the Space Force, separate but equal."

Turning to Marine Corps Gen. Joseph Dunford, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Mr. Trump said "it is going to be something. So important. Gen. Dunford, if you would carry that assignment out, I would be very greatly honored. ... Got it?"

"We got it," Dunford replied.

Space is a critical element in U.S. military operations, providing satellite-based intelligence, secure communications, weather forecasting and weapons command and control. Protecting those space-based assets also is critical given the development of anti-satellite weapons by China and Russia.

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted

Matt B said:

President Trump has announced plans for the creation of an entirely new branch of the United States Military - the Space Force.

It is anticipated that the United States Space Force will play a leading role in strategic and scientific efforts in space, including efforts to revisit the Moon and undertake missions to Mars. Do the Zetas have any comment on the new Space Force? What is the purpose of bringing matters of space within the control of the US Military?
[and from another]
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-space-force-pentagon-create-mili...
President Trump officially directed the Pentagon to establish a sixth branch of the U.S. military in space. Mr. Trump called for a "space force" to ensure American dominance on the high frontier. The president also signed his administration's third Space Policy Directive, calling for establishment of new protocols and procedures to manage and monitor the increasing numbers of satellites in low-Earth orbit and the tens of thousands of pieces of space junk and debris that pose an increasing threat to costly spacecraft.
[and from another]
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/18/us/politics/trump-space-force-si...
President Trump said on Monday that he would direct the Pentagon to establish a sixth branch of the armed forces dedicated to protecting American interests in outer space. Last year, Congress punted on a decision to establish a space corps through the National Defense Authorization Act, and asked for an independent study on the issue. The creation of a sixth branch of the military to join the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps and Coast Guard would require congressional authorization and approval. 
[and from another]
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5864305/This-dumb-id...
Retired Nasa Astronaut Mark Kelly says Donald Trump's order to create a Space Force is a 'dumb idea'. The US president revealed plans for a service branch aimed at ensuring American dominance in space this week, but Kelly said that role was already covered by the US Air Force. Kelly was referring to the Air Force Space Command, a space-focused group that has come under a number of names over the years. Headquartered in Colorado, the agency supports military use of rocket launches, satellites and cyberwarfare operations. It also tracks decommissioned satellites and other space debris in orbit around Earth, a growing problem that could block rocket launches in future.
[and from another]
https://www.space.com/39050-trump-directs-nasa-humans-to-moon.html
President Donald Trump signed his administration's first space policy directive today (Dec. 11, 2017), which formally directs NASA to focus on returning humans to the moon. NASA recently announced that for human astronauts, the path to Mars will include a stop at the moon, where the agency may build a facility currently being called the Deep Space Gateway.

SOZT
Why is President Trump creating a new branch of the Defense Department? NASA, under contract to the US government, is in outer space and has been tasked with returning US astronauts to the Moon and eventually to Mars. The Air Force has a Space Command branch that covers the airspace closer to Earth, including satellite debris. Why not simply expand NASA or the Air Force? NASA has been tasked with the cover-up over Nibiru for decades, and the Air Force was in charge of the Blue Book
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Blue_Book
cover-up over the alien presence. Could the Deep State be trusted to tell the truth about Nibiru?

In that Congress must approve the formation of a new branch of the Defense Department, this new Space Force is not expected to be funded and in operation that quickly, if ever. But in the meantime, Dunford and the rest of the Junta can proceed to staff the fledgling branch, conduct studies, and issue press releases. Seeking funding from Congress while politicians posture and grand stand is expected to drag on while actual work progesses. During his dramatic press conference, Trump ensured the world was present when his new Space Force was born. Meanwhile, a Nibiru announcement or admission can be in new and trusted hands.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

Question via chat: 

Sokolovskaya, Gulkevichsky, Russia. Reported 19th June.
[and from another]
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2018/Kuban/Kuban2018a.html

SOZT
This beautiful and quite legitimate design laid at Sochi is showing what the daily Earth wobble is doing to this part of the world. The Figure 8 of the wobble tilts first to the right and then to the left as the day passes. This tilt has lately become extreme, such that the Sun appears to be coming up hours early in Europe and again lingering in a delayed twilight at dusk in the N American continent. During both tilts the N Pole of Earth has a lower latitude, the Earth somewhat laid on its side, thus more sunlight reaching what would otherwise be considered northern latitudes.

Sochi experiences both the RIGHT and LEFT tilt of the wobble. The clash causing this wobble is also depicted by the normal direction of the planets in the inner Solar System on the LEFT, a counterclockwise orbit, and the direction that Nibiru assumes on the RIGHT, a clockwise direction. The result is shown below in the design, where an orbit around the Sun normally has a relatively peaceful path, the presence of Nibiru has caused reverberations, an attempt by the Earth to escape the magnetic slam of Nibiru and a bounce back into position by the distressed Earth.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via chat: 

What is Obama up to? Pushing the Cabal’s agenda? 

[and from another] 
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/where-is-barack-obama/ar-AA...
How did the most ubiquitous man in America for eight years virtually disappear? Over the course of his presidency, Obama cast himself as the country’s secular minister as much as its commander-in-chief, someone who understood the moral core of the nation and felt compelled to insist that we live up to it. What explains his near absence from the political stage, where he might argue publicly against the reversals of his policy accomplishments, and also from American life more broadly? What is keeping him from speaking more frequently about the need to protect democratic norms and the rule of law, to be decent people? 
[and from another]
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/21/barack-and-michelle-obama-sign-mult...
Barack and Michelle Obama have entered a multiyear agreement with Netflix to produce series and features. The Obamas say they hope "to promote greater empathy and understanding between peoples, and help them share their stories with the entire world."
[and from another]
http://freebeacon.com/politics/obama-set-meet-world-leaders-china-i...
Former President Barack Obama will meet with world leaders during an upcoming trip to China, India, and France.

SOZT
Why is Obama visiting many countries, virtually a world tour, while seemingly out of sight for American audiences? Is he trying to act like a shadow President? Is he trying to pre-empt Trump’s influence and official statements? It is even rumored that he tried to call N Korea President Kim just prior to the summit with Trump, but that the call failed to go through as the phone number had been changed by the generals close to Kim. This is true, and the degree to which Obama personally is reacting to Trump’s success.

Obama is not without ego, though was a Service-to-Other soul, a Star Child soul incarnated in the past in Lincoln.
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue331.htm
As we have stated,
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta482.htm
the Star Child was a walk-in, taking possession of the Obama body in its late teens. Obama the human at that time had already come under the wing of the CIA, who recognized that they could control events during an Obama Presidency because so many blackmail cards
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/07ja2017.htm
could be played. Obama was gay, born in Kenya, and the CIA arranged for he and his lover to have adopted children, all the paperwork to fit the lie.

Why did the soul of Lincoln incarnate into a depressed teen who was at that time thinking of suicide? It was a premier opportunity to seize the stage at certain points and change the direction of the world politic for the good of mankind. Specifically, it was an opportunity to admit the presence and pending passage of Nibiru. He was given this opportunity during Jade Helm 2015, when Dunford had the US ready for riot control, but Obama lacked courage and dithered. Thereafter Dunford took control of the US government.

Unable to fully control his administration during his Presidency, Obama could not prevent Hillary, whom he hated, from becoming the Democratic candidate. The soul of Lincoln was not, essentially, a team player, as Trump has proven to be. If Obama could not sway events by his oratory, which was superb, then events were in the hands of others who ran it into what we currently see revealed – a corrupt FBI and DOJ, a State Department that put America up for sale, and the ascendancy of the criminal New World Order cabal. The soul of Lincoln has departed, in shame.
EOZT

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/07ja2017.htm
It has been rumored that Hillary had proof that Obama was born in Kenya, and started this rumor in 2008 in an attempt to discredit him. It is true that the CIA has been grooming Obama for decades for the White House, and forged the Hawaii birth certificate. But in 2008 Hillary had hope that they could blackmail Obama into supporting her, so she could win in 2012. Then by 2012, Hillary had collapsed with a stroke. The pressure on Obama going into 2016 was ramped up to include a very closely held secret that the CIA was using to control Obama. He is gay, and married to Michael, a transvestite, his children adopted at birth.

Prior 11/18/2008 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta482.htm
Obama was also Lincoln, as is obvious to many. In Obama's case, he was a walk-in during his teens, so was able to choose the body and life circumstances for his mission. 

[Nancy Lieder]

As is our usual practice, we are closing this Q&A chat and opening the July chat. Please post your new questions there. Thank you. 

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