ZetaTalk Chat for July 31, 2021

[Nancy Lieder]

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3. The Zetas, as all visitors, are under rules on how they interact with humanity. They are not here to rescue you. They cannot divert Planet X just as today they do not prevent droughts or floods. The Earth is mankind’s schoolhouse whereby he learns to help his fellow man.
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Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 78 years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted from the chat: 

There was apparently a rumor posted on ZT followers, about pilots dropping dead from the vaccine and the airlines- British Airlines, was not going to hire vaccinated pilots. It was debunked by other media. 
[and from another]
Fact check: UK not in 'crisis talks' with British Airways over safety of vaccinated pilots
June 22, 2021
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/06/22/fact-check...
“British Airways now in crisis talks w/ govt about whether to allow vaccinated pilots to fly,” claims a June 17 Instagram post. It connected this with a claim that three pilots died after taking the COVID-19 vaccine.
[and from another]
https://www.instagram.com/p/CQPKD-ZtqnJ
British Airways: 3rd pilot dead in a week after taking the unapproved experimental covid19 shot. All 3 perfectly fit. British Airways now in crisis talks w/ govt about whether to allow vaccinated pilots to fly.
[and from another]
Airlines Facing Massive Problems After Vaxxed Pilots Go Down; Mass Shut Downs Coming?
June 27, 2021
http://thetruereporter.com/airlines-facing-massive-problems-after-v...
The airline industry faces a pilots deficit because people are dying due to getting the covid-19 vaccine.
Besides the pilots’ deaths, accidents occur, and maybe the airlines will shut down for lack of staff.
[and from another]
Four Healthy British Airways Pilots Die in One Week – Airline Says No Link to Covid-19 Vaccine
June 17, 2021
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/06/four-healthy-british-airwa...
Four young and healthy British Airways pilots recently passed away and the airline is claiming there is no link to the Covid-19 vaccine. The photo of the four books of condolence sitting next to framed pictures of the pilots was posted to Twitter and authenticated by Reuters. The first two guys were in their forties and fifties; this guy, mid-thirties, perfectly fit, no underlying conditions. He gets his second jab and he’s dead within days, exactly the same with the first two.
[and from another]
Fact Check-British Airways is not in ‘crisis talks’ with the government over vaccinated pilots
June 17, 2021
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-aviation/fact...
Claims that British Airways is in “crisis talks” with the British government due to the deaths of three pilots who received COVID-19 shots are unfounded, a company representative and British medicines regulator spokesperson has told Reuters.
[and from another]
Covid vaccine: How many people in the UK have been vaccinated so far?
June 29, 2021
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55274833
The UK has four vaccines approved for use: Pfizer-BioNTech, Oxford-AstraZeneca, Moderna and Janssen; three of which require two doses for maximum protection.

SOZT
Did British Airways cancel flights on June 17 because their pilots were suddenly dropping dead from various vaccinations mandated by the UK? Yes. After a quick cost benefit analysis the upper management decided the cost of insurance and loss of a plane if the pilots died mid-flight would be more than canceled flights, so they took the cancellation route. Of course this is being denied and the media instructed to bury the story, but the story had already spread.

The annual flu vaccines are produced over many years, so that adjusting for a year ahead is merely a tweak of the year past. But Covid-19, though just another variant of the flu and no worse than the annual flu in death rate, was different in enough aspects that new vaccines were developed. This rush job, in most cases, resulted in mutations and variants,
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue767.htm
blood clots, nerve damage, and heart inflammation. Young people were dropping dead right after the vaccination, and health exams prior to taking the jab were no insurance against this. Perfectly healthy, then dropped dead.

What was the airline company to do? The UK, their home base, insisted that every person in the country must be vaccinated. A compromise was reached with the UK government rules, so that unvaccinated pilots could wait. The airline company also scheduled safe pilots that had been vaccinated months ago without ill effect. All this will be kept from the public as airline profits are deemed the primary goal. The truth about vaccines deaths is to be kept from the public.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email: 

I'm wondering whether there's anything significant about the underwater pipeline fire in the Gulf of Mexico today. Could it be related to the New Madrid adjustment? Perhaps the start of a new wave? 
[and from another]
Fire Breaks Out Near Pemex Offshore Platform
July 2, 2021
https://www.rigzone.com/news/wire/fire_breaks_out_near_pemex_offsho...
A fire has broken out near Pemex’s Ku Maloob Zaap offshore platform complex after a submarine pipeline valve broke, leaking oil into the country’s Gulf Coast.
[and from another]
Video shows Flames Boiling in Gulf of Mexico after huge Pemex Gas Pipeline Rupture
July 2, 2021
https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/video-shows-flames-boiling-in-gul...
Mexico’s state-owned oil company said Friday it suffered a rupture in an undersea gas pipeline in the Gulf of Mexico, sending flames boiling to the surface in the Gulf waters.
[and from another]
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue721.htm
July 26, 2020
Thus in looking at a relief map of the Gulf, we can see that the rip point from the tip of Mexico to the mouth of the Mississippi will follow along the deep Gulf waters that run above the Yucatan Peninsula. There is much speculation about fault lines in the Gulf, but if the New Madrid adjustment started at New Orleans in October, 2019 and the tip of Mexico is having massive quake hammering, this is the most logical route.

SOZT
We have alluded to Mexico’s role
https://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx085.htm
during the New Madrid adjustment in process. The tip of Mexico is pulled West
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta450.htm
while the SE portion of the US is held in place by a snag point East of the Caribbean. It is in the process of being ripped from the remainder of the N American Plate at present, which the DC pedestrian bridge and the SurfSide collapse show. There is a known fault line that runs from Mexico City along the west side of the Gulf, and a suspected platelet in the Gulf spanning from New Orleans to Houston and beyond.

If one examines the subterranean relief map
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue721.htm
of the Gulf one can envision the next step as the N American Continent is torn apart. The Yucatan Peninsula will side with the Caribbean Plate and Florida and Alabama. Solid rock all around. There is a ridge under the Gulf, with the deepest parts of the Gulf on either side of this ridge. Note that the Mexican fault line running up from Mexico City has a nexus at the Ku Maloob Zaap pipelines. The N American Continent is being torn apart there, parts going East, and parts going West.
EOZT

Prior 2010 ZT: https://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx085.htm
The New Madrid will rip from Mexico to the Great Lakes, on the west side of the Appalachian Mountains. The New Madrid adjustment is most devastating to land to the west of the Mississippi, which will drop slightly in elevation along the river and slide to the SW. There is a sister fault line that connects with the New Madrid cluster of fault lines in the Gulf, and then runs up along the eastern side of the Appalachian Mountains. This reaches all the way to Boston, the reason for church bells ringing. 

Prior 4/26/2008 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta450.htm
We have described a temporary bowing along the West Coast as the stress on the N American continent builds. Rather than tear along the New Madrid and related fault lines, Mexico at first is pulled toward the west, creating a bow that forms around California and stresses the rock along the West Coast all the way from the tip of Mexico to Alaska. 

Prior 3/12/2011 ZT: https://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx329.htm
Will the New Madrid just suddenly rip with our predicted magnitude 9 quake? Hardly. There will be a progression of quakes in the magnitude 4-5 range all along the New Madrid fault line, which runs up to the Great Lakes and thence along the seaway. The bow will become more stressed, cracking rock inland from San Diego all the way to the Mississippi, and forcing adjustments north and south of this point too, from the Aleutian Islands to the tip of Mexico. 

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email: 

Massive explosion from a mud volcano? In the Caspian sea.
[and from another]
Is this explosion somehow related to the African plate roll?
[and from another]
Video: Massive Explosion Seen in Caspian Sea, Linked to 'Volcano Eruption'
July 4, 20021
https://sputniknews.com/asia/202107041083307419-video-massive-explo...
While the official cause of the explosion remains to be determined, Azerbaijan's Ecology Ministry said that the blast may have been caused by a volcanic eruption. A massive explosion was spotted in the Caspian Sea on Sunday, with some reports initially suggesting that it could have been connected with a nearby coastal oil platform. This, however, was later debunked by the State Oil Company of Azerbaijan Republic (SOCAR), which released a statement saying that there had been no accidents registered on offshore platforms.
[and from another]
Romanian Black Sea Refinery Blast kills One, Injures Five
July 2, 2021
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/blast-occurs-romanias-petromid...
A blast and fire at Romania's biggest crude oil refinery killed one person and injured five others. Rompetrol Rafinare (RORRC.BX), part of KMG International Group, said the explosion was inside the diesel hydrotreating unit.

SOZT
Mexico’s Pemex offshore gas field erupted with a subaquatic fire on July 2. A day later on July 3 Romania had an unexplained refinery explosion. And this was followed yet another day later on July 4 with another subaquatic gas explosion in the Caspian Sea. All three explosions are either in a stretch zone or on a plate border on the move. Pemex is just to the East of the New Madrid Fault Line, and the Caspian Sea and Romania are in the Eurasian Plate stretch zone. In addition, the dropping of the Africa Plate has started to pull open a void in Eurasia above the drop point.

Exploding refineries are nothing new, but gas fields exploding and burning under the water are unusual. Under normal circumstances, gas or methane merely rises to the surface and drifts off. Where is the spark that causes such an explosion? Pemex had a pipeline explosion so metal being pulled apart could spark. Even though under water, the spark has a life that lives long enough to start combustion, and oxygen is available in water molecules. And the Caspian Sea mud volcano had sufficient volcanic heat coming up from below.
EOZT

[Shaun Kazuck]

Figured I would add the latest industrial accident to the list.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/evacuations-ordered-after-th...

[Ovidiu Pricopi]

,Hi, This is the List page ,post it there if is not a question .

https://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/gas-explosion-kills-1-inj... 

Shaun Kazuck said:

Figured I would add the latest industrial accident to the list.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/evacuations-ordered-after-th...

[Ovidiu Pricopi]

Hi , Any insight on the Crop Circle that appear today 5th July , Ridge Way, Nr Hackpen Hill, Wiltshire. http://cropcircleconnector.com/2021/ridgeway/ridgeway2021a.html . Is very exquisite done with different patterns inside the flatted grains . I remember that Zeta said that they lay them along field lines if they want a message to be deliver . It seems that the "target" is rolling down the curved field line, also target have 4 sides, Is this CC implying the equinox/solstice? The Sun I assume is in the middle . Thank you . 

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email: 

Many of our song birds here in Indiana, Ohio, and Kentucky are dying. The DNR are telling people to take down their bird feeders until they can figure out what is going on. Can you please ask the Zeta's why our song birds are dying?
[and from another]
Unexplained Deaths of Zombie Birds in Kentucky, Indiana, Maryland, Ohio, Virginia, Washington DC and West Virginia Concern Scientists
June 21, 2021
https://strangesounds.org/2021/06/unexplained-deaths-zombie-birds-u...
In late May, the Kentucky Department of Fish & Wildlife Resources began receiving reports of sick and dying birds with symptoms of eye swelling and crusty discharge, as well as signs of neurological problems. Wildlife biologists in Indiana, Ohio, Washington DC, Virginia, Maryland and West Virginia have documented similar cases.
[and from another]
Panic among Wildlife Experts as unusual Number of Birds are suddenly going Blind and Dying around Washington DC
June 6, 2021
https://strangesounds.org/2021/06/mystery-birds-death-blind-washing...
An unusual number of birds are suddenly going blind and dying in the area around Washington DC, puzzling wildlife experts.

SOZT
There is an overlap between the states where birds are dying and going blind and the Sulfur Dioxide emissions from the Ohio River and fault lines associated with the New Madrid path. There is also an association with sudden and unexplained disasters along this path, including the Ohio River headlands refinery explosion and the DC pedestrian bridge collapse. Birds and fish are sensitive to methane gas, and thus the use of canaries in the mine to warn of the presence of Carbon Monoxide. These dying and blinded birds are warning the people in the SE United States that disaster is coming, and soon.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

Declined as like most of the CC being laid lately, this is regular and has no message. Just compare to the CC from years ago! Those "exquisite" flattened grain could be done by machine. The weaving that is mentioned for CC by aliens is grain from different directions interspersed. 

Ovidiu Pricopi said:

Hi , Any insight on the Crop Circle that appear today 5th July , 

[Willa Rawlings]

Pennsylvania is another state that is among this concern.  PA. info has been going around Facebook the last few days.

 

Nancy Lieder said:

Accepted via email: 

Many of our song birds here in Indiana, Ohio, and Kentucky are dying. The DNR are telling people to take down their bird feeders until they can figure out what is going on. Can you please ask the Zeta's why our song birds are dying?
[and from another]
Unexplained Deaths of Zombie Birds in Kentucky, Indiana, Maryland, Ohio, Virginia, Washington DC and West Virginia Concern Scientists
June 21, 2021
https://strangesounds.org/2021/06/unexplained-deaths-zombie-birds-u...
In late May, the Kentucky Department of Fish & Wildlife Resources began receiving reports of sick and dying birds with symptoms of eye swelling and crusty discharge, as well as signs of neurological problems. Wildlife biologists in Indiana, Ohio, Washington DC, Virginia, Maryland and West Virginia have documented similar cases.
[and from another]
Panic among Wildlife Experts as unusual Number of Birds are suddenly going Blind and Dying around Washington DC
June 6, 2021
https://strangesounds.org/2021/06/mystery-birds-death-blind-washing...
An unusual number of birds are suddenly going blind and dying in the area around Washington DC, puzzling wildlife experts.

SOZT
There is an overlap between the states where birds are dying and going blind and the Sulfur Dioxide emissions from the Ohio River and fault lines associated with the New Madrid path. There is also an association with sudden and unexplained disasters along this path, including the Ohio River headlands refinery explosion and the DC pedestrian bridge collapse. Birds and fish are sensitive to methane gas, and thus the use of canaries in the mine to warn of the presence of Carbon Monoxide. These dying and blinded birds are warning the people in the SE United States that disaster is coming, and soon.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted from the chat: 

The Genetic Creation of Hybrid Creatures Are Taking Place and They Are Scary!
Feb 12, 2021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTyKi7ts6EI
Throughout his career within the secret space program, Jason Rice had direct encounters with seven different extraterrestrial species. He details the physical appearance, behaviors and strengths attributed to each of these beings.
[and from another]
September 25, 2018
https://www.gaia.com/video/jason-rice-new-insider
For the first time ever, he divulges events from his childhood that led to his induction into a recruiting arm of the MILAB programs, where he was identified as an intuitive-empath. The training he received was merely preparation for the true ordeal to come, serving in a 20 & Back program which took him to distant worlds.
[and from another]
February 2019
https://www.gaia.com/video/jason-rice-secret-space-program-and-its-...
Jason Rice was recruited into unacknowledged classified programs at a very early age. After graduating in 1996 with a bachelor of science in engineering, he served as a ground forces officer in the Interplanetary Defense and Reaction Forces (IDARF) fleet. His career in that unit took him to distant planets, training and serving alongside indigenous populations defending their home-worlds against false-flag interstellar invasions.

SOZT
Jason Rice, who comes before the public with zero evidence to support his claims, is a colossal hoaxer and doing this for personal gain. Beyond the false claims made in previous interviews with Gaia, his latest is fraught with obvious falsehoods. Evolution is not slipshod, but structured on the survival of the fittest to provide for a successful outcome. We have stated that Earth’s creatures having two eyes, two ears, two brain halves, two kidneys, two testicles or ovaries is not a mistake. This is to allow the creature to live despite the loss of one. Thus the Jason Rice claim that the “Cyclopeans” had only one eye is absurd. Evolution would have eliminated this mutation.

Likewise the conflict with the dominant species theory. Jason Rice has one of his planets having three dominant species – an “insectoid” a “Cyclopean” and a hominoid. It is no accident that genetic engineering assists are only allowed on a planet such that a single species is allowed to become dominant at a given time. The reason for this is obvious. To allow for multiple dominant species would allow for the hunting and enslavement of one species over another.

Yet another clue to the hoax is Jason’s description of communications between the dominant species – via telepathy. This suggests that insects and humans can communicate via telepathy. They cannot. Telepathy is based on brain wave activity, such that the brain waves become synchronized. The message sender and the message receiver are both experiencing the same brain wave pattern, thus the same brain wave thought. Insects have an entirely different brain wave structure from humans. Jason Rice fail.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

Taken from the ZT Followers site: 

The sun is already set behind the mountain yet still flashing. Notice the clouds are shown blinking as well.
[and from another]
https://www.facebook.com/100001297092509/videos/4032696073450256
[and from another]
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue574.htm
Solar pulsation has been observed by man and being studied. The GONG project records a daily pulse from the Sun. Saturn’s rings have been noted to have what is called a magnetosphere pulse, which can occur every 10.7 hours.  But the video recently taken by Alberto seems to show a more rapid pulse, within a minute or within seconds. We recently reported the Moon Swirls presenting a waffle appearance, which the Zetas describe as being magnetic field lines around the Moon Swirl. The pulsing is yet another new phenomena.

SOZT
Pulsing is caused by the throbbing of magnetospheres, which occurs due to the crowding and rebound of magnetic particles. All particles, as we have explained,
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/30sp2017.htm
have this inherent behavior, part of God’s plan, so that the dynamic Universe is always in motion, else would stagnate. Light particles are affected by the increasing activity in the various magnetospheres between the Sun and Earth. The Sun and the Earth have a magnetosphere, as does Nibiru and many of its organized Moon Swirls. In that Nibiru is positioned more directly in front of the Sun, their throbbing affects the view of the Sun.
EOZT

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/30sp2017.htm
Human scientists understand that the Sun and magnetosphere’s can pulse, for many reason as yet poorly understood by man. We have described the behavior of many particle flows as being a rush to clump together and a push away from crowding. This is God’s plan, and accounts for the dynamic nature of the Universe, always in motion. Where man’s studies indicate that pulsations are long, and Alberto’s video shows a rapid pulse in Nibiru’s tail, the variations are many. The tail is throbbing, as interactions between many magnetospheres within the tail are involved.

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted from the ZetaTalk Followers site: 

Is this really Nibiru or something else?
[and from another]
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=1692499084272261&set=a.3374...
[and from another]
https://www.facebook.com/groups/351696368562307/
July 8th 2021 SE Idaho 7:20PM Now this caught me by surprise and it may very well be a monster persona coming from the horizon of Nibiru . I will start off with the original capture and then add light as we go .
[and from another]
July 5,2021 Sarasota, FL 12:02 PM, PX in it's double helix form.Finally could get a decent shot in just before the storms came in.
[and from another]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glow_stick
The chemicals inside the plastic tube are a mixture of the dye, the base catalyst, and diphenyl oxalate. The chemical in the glass vial is hydrogen peroxide. 

SOZT
What would cause a Petrol Monster in space to start burning? Petrol does not burn in space unless a spark or heat source starts the process, just as gasoline spilled on the ground does not burn unless a match is tossed. Where oxygen is plentiful, such as in the atmosphere of Nibiru or Earth’s atmosphere or one of the dominant Moons in the Double Helix, spontaneous burning
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue761.htm
can readily start. One can see this process surrounding Nibiru and its dominant Helix Moon, and even on other water bearing moons of Nibiru within Moon Swirls on occasion.

But can a Petrol Monster in space, between Nibiru and the Earth, alight? The components of such a burn exist within the Petrol, in that there is always some oxygen captured in various compounds. Once alit by the heat of the Sun or perhaps an interplanetary lightning flash,
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/13ap2013.htm
a slow smoldering burn can start and proceed until free oxygen is no longer released. Oxygen can in fact be passed around, from first one burn to another, if the result of the first burn is fragile. What would the people of Earth conclude, seeing the sky on fire?
EOZT

Prior 4/13/2013 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/13ap2013.htm
Dark lightning is something we, the Zetas, talked about at the start of the ZetaTalk sage in 1995. We stated that where water vapor and other particles are thin, as out in space, there is no “spontaneous release of light and heat, no flash and crackle”, in other words, lightning is dark.