ZetaTalk Chat for January 31, 2024

[Nancy Lieder]

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3. The Zetas, as all visitors, are under rules on how they interact with humanity. They are not here to rescue you. They cannot divert Planet X just as today they do not prevent droughts or floods. The Earth is mankind’s schoolhouse whereby he learns to help his fellow man.
4. The date of the pole shift cannot be given, but the sequence of events can be given. [ Link ] Check the ning pinned discussions and blogs for such information as the 7 of 10, the last weeks, etc.

Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 78 years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

[Nancy Lieder]

In 2010 while laying out the Plate Movement prediction the Zetas stated that Ohio along the Lake Erie shores would have a rough time during the New Madrid. There is even a Northeast Ohio Seismic Zone similar to the Wabash in Indiana. For the Lake Erie islands to heave to the extent that rocks rise 6-7 feet above the former water level must therefore have meaning. Has the New Madrid Fault Line released its hold there, and moreover is the SE Portion on the move! This seems to be the silent stretch, the silent slide, predicted by the Zetas. It iseems to be more than just a clapping Seaway at Montreal. 
[and from another]
Photos Show ‘Rare’ Phenomenon on Lake Erie
January 14, 2023
https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/photos-show-rare-pheno...
As a powerful winter storm battered northern Ohio Saturday, 65 mph wind gusts caused a rare scene along Lake Erie. The near hurricane-force winds from the southwest pushed the more shallow water out further into the lake in the western basin of Lake Erie near Port Clinton and the Lake Erie Islands, especially at Put-in-Bay on South Bass Island in Ottawa County Saturday. Koehler said the boulders are usually under 6 to 9 feet of water, with just their tops exposed, and at times on Saturday, people were walking on the lake bed.

SOZT
As we have recently stated, the New Madrid Fault Line has separated between the Mainland and SE Portions all the way to the Seaway exit. Now only a small distance from the Exit to the Azores remains. There have been significant quakes at St Johns at the Seaway exit and also at the Azores – all within the past couple days. Meanwhile the Africa Roll has continued to pull both Africa and the SE Portion to the East and down. This latest evidence from the Lake Erie islands where the New Madrid Fault Line runs shows that the SE Portion is indeed on the move, and the Montreal clapping can be expected to accelerate.
EOZT

Prior 2010 ZT: https://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx050.htm
When we stated that "Chicago will rupture and adjust" and "Ohio will be pulled in places" this should not be news to man. The New Madrid runs up along the Seaway, to the mouth of the Seaway, and thus will rupture any land it passes through.  Plot its course and consider that more than the fault line itself will be disrupted. Rock detached from its former connections is free to react to the dominant theme in the area. If rock was held down, formerly, it can bounce up. If rock was held back, it is free to spring forward. And adjustment in rock strata means that loose soil will sink or heave. This most certainly can affect a broader area than just the fault line. We have stated that Ohio will be affected most in this regard.

As the New Madrid fault line runs up along the Seaway just under the Great lakes in Ohio, cities such as Cleveland and Toledo will find their infrastructure greatly shattered in places as the rock beneath them will jut and drop, vertical adjustments. Buffalo, being virtually on the fault line, will likewise be shattered in this way, such that freeways become useless, but the seaway at Niagara Falls will remain.

[James of Idaho]

I have a question for the Zetas and am curious if these images taken in the early morning showing the orange colors indicative of the Nibdog effect that we may start seeing more of from Nibiru drawing closer?  Photos taken by Michelle Pinnock , Rigby, Idaho  January 15, 2024.

[Howard Boldt]

Despite the explanations given, it often seems criminal that the Junta places such low priority on informing the public. We're at 5 to 12 re cataclysmic events. The Junta is still playing Biden games and cover-up games. The public is still in the dark, instead of prepping and relocating. There will be far more loss, suffering and death than necessary. People could have been prepping for years, if only they had known, instead of just being among the millions of casualties and refugees. Do members of the Junta put themselves in the shoes of the uninformed enough? Or are they too happy that they and their families have privileged info and escape plans? It seems they may be hated as much as anyone else when it comes to light what they knew and didn't disclose. Trump may be hated because it will come out that he knew. The civil war they worked to prevent may be replaced by a revolution. Citizens against the government, perhaps with the bulk of military personnel on the side of the people. Trust lost in all current leadership. Hatred for the elite, of which Trump and the Junta are arguably part of. In any case, is it possible to be updated on Putin announcement plans, and how the Junta and others reacting to it?

[Nancy Lieder]

Putin and the Junta are dealing with the Council of Worlds, which does what it wants. In 2021 the Zetas were saying, based on geological changes, that they expected the New Madrid to occur in 2022, early 2022 in fact. That is now 2 years ago. If the Junta and Putin has started the panic and riots then, think of how many people would be out in the cold right now, in a tent. What they are waiting for is the excuse (that the public will accept and cooperate with) for Martial law. Your request is thus declined. 

Howard Boldt said:

Despite the explanations given, it often seems criminal 

[Nancy Lieder]

Sundogs are halos caused by sunlight angle reflecting off ice crystals. As you know. The angles form top, bottom, and either side of the Sun. Cannot determine from the photos if this display is around the Sun or around a place where Nibiru is located. Thus question declined. 

James of Idaho said:

I have a question for the Zetas and am curious

[Nancy Lieder]

Zetas right again!

[and from another]

Indian Tectonic Plate Is Splitting in Two Beneath Tibet, Latest Analysis Finds

January 17, 2024

https://www.sciencealert.com/indian-tectonic-plate-is-splitting-in-... 

Presenting at the American Geophysical Union conference in San Francisco last December, researchers from institutions in the US and China described a disintegration of the Indian continental plate as it grinds along the basement of the Eurasian tectonic plate that sits atop it. It's a surprising compromise on two models currently favored as explanations for the lifting of the Tibetan plateau and the colossal Himalayan mountain range. In both cases, a collision between the chunks of crust belonging to India and Eurasia is responsible. They determined the Indian slab wasn't merely bobbing along smoothly below the Eurasian plate, nor was it bunching up like a rug on a slippery floor. Instead it is delaminating, with its dense base peeling free and sinking into the mantle as its lighter top-half continued its journey just beneath the surface.

Bit by bit, the Eurasian land mass has been lifted skyward on the shoulders of a drowned giant, giving us Earth's highest elevations. Studies of the density of the mantle and the crust suggest the rather buoyant Indian continental plate shouldn't sink so easily, however, meaning it's likely the submerged sections of the crust should still be grinding along under the belly of the Eurasian plate rather than being plunged into the mantle's depths. Another possibility is the Indian plate is distorting in a way that causes some parts to wrinkle and fold, and others to dip and dive. Different perspectives emerge depending on which kinds of evidence are favored and how data is processed.

SOZT

What emerged from this Geophysical Union Conference was that the theories on why the Himalayan Mountains have been pushed high do not match the evidence collected and provided. Nor does either theory explain the ongoing process where Tibet is covered in quakes while India sinks. Of course, given the ongoing coverup over Nibiru and the Daily Earth Wobble it incites, there would be no explanation that would suffice. We, the Zetas, explained how the wobble would affect the crust in 2004,

https://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta103.htm

and this has only increased. Thus Zetas RIGHT Again.

EOZT

Prior 2004 ZT: https://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta103.htm

Are we going to develop a wobble? Are we going to suddenly lurch about so that the Sun is rising and setting in a place way off from where the public would expect? And what happens to the crust when that happen

Prior 2010 ZT: https://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta584.htm

The 7 of 10 scenarios describe plate movements, and for this to occur something has to release the deadlock, the current stalemate where the plates are locked against each other. Once the deadlock is broken and the plates start moving, sliding past each other, new points where the plates are locked against each other develop, but these are weaker locks than the one at present. The current lock, as we have so often stated, is the Indo-Australian Plate which is being driven under the Himalayans. This is no small lock, as the height of the Himalayans attests. Nevertheless, the activity in this region shows this likely to be the first of the 7 of 10 scenarios to manifest.

Prior 2010 ZT: https://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx348.htm

Though the Indo-Australian Plate is sometimes referred to as two separate plates, this plate operates as one and will continue to do so. 

[James of Idaho]

I have a question for the Zetas and would ask them if they can verify in Mario's captures that what we are seeing is Nibiru itself shrouded in dust and debris? 

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted

James of Idaho said:

I have a question for the Zetas and would ask them if they can verify in Mario's captures that what we are seeing is Nibiru itself shrouded in dust and debris? 

SOZT
Nibiru has moved closer to the Earth, and this can be seen by the Petrol blobs and fog increasingly filling the skies. Moon Swirl Tubes will also appear larger as they come closer. But Nibiru continues to be shrouded by Petrol, only very occasionally without its Petrol shroud. The assisted photos displayed on the Pole Shift Ning site, where the Petrol was blown away by benign aliens, are exceptions. Nibiru is directly below this photo taken at noon in Florida by Mario, but is not within the large Petrol mass circled but above, closer to the Sun. This can be seen by the shadow cast on the top of this Petrol mass, which shows sunlight from BOTH the Sun and reflected sunlight from Nibiru.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

Something strange descends, splits and lingers
[and from another]
Recorded in Homestead, Florida
https://www.facebook.com/reel/740619007626299
[and from another]
hhttps://t.me/GeneralMCNews/7058
Asteroid exploding in the sky above Germany.
[and from another]
https://t.me/s/GeneralMCNews
Mysterious object in the sky was seen descending over downtown Charlotte, North Carolina.
https://twitter.com/ZT_Followers/status/1748770427357294761

SOZT
As Nibiru and its vast debris and Petrol ridden tail come closer to the Earth, the drama played out in the skies becomes more varied. We have had Neon clouds and Rainbow smears on clouds, and on occasion Ground Fires lit by flaming Petrol. These recent incidents are caused by debris coated by Petrol, so friction during entry sets them afire. The heat of the fire, in addition to the friction caused by encountering the atmosphere, shatters large debris so a fireworks effect occurs. More drama will occur as the time of the Passage approaches.
EOZT

[Kamil Rak]

Can the Zetas comment on this?

https://qofficial.net/password

Q says the "THE TRUTH IS GOING TO SHOCK THE WORLD."

And there is a photo of Planet X debris that the Zetas did ZetaTalk today.

"5 DAYS LEFT"

Is this a countdown to an official admission re Planet X?

[Nancy Lieder]

Sure looks like this is what is implied. But any Zeta answer would just be "in the hands of man" so no point in asking the Zetas. We will soon know. 

Kamil Rak said:

Can the Zetas comment on this?

[Nancy Lieder]

Strong Magnitude 7.1 Earthquake Strikes Remote Western ChinaJanuary 22, 2024 https://weather.com/news/weather/news/2024-01-22-earthquake-strikes... The U.S. Geological Survey said the quake occurred in the Tian Shan mountain range, “a seismically active region, though earthquakes of this size occur somewhat infrequently.” It said the largest quake in the area in the past century was a 7.1-magnitude one in 1978 about 200 kilometers to the north of one early Tuesday. There were 14 aftershocks since the main quake, with two registering above 5 magnitude.[and from another] At least 50 injured in major earthquake on China-Kyrgyzstan borderJanuary 23, 2024 https://insiderpaper.com/at-least-50-injured-in-major-earthquake-on... The major quake was registered just after 2:00 am (1800 GMT Monday) at a depth of 13 kilometres in China’s Xinjiang region, about 140 kilometres (85 miles) west of the city of Aksu. 

SOZT

The entirety of China was shifting during this massive quake swarm in the Tian Shan mountains along one of the main fault lines in China. Like an accordion, opening and closing, China has been ripping open along its numerous fault lines and its borders with the Philippine and Pacific Plates. The Tian Shan mountains are solid rock so resist this accordion process, until tension builds to the point where it must relent and stretch. The historical swarm in 1978 and this recent swarm are such stretch incidents. 

EOZT