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Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 70 [73] years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

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Text of a Letter from the President to the Congress of the United States

Issued on: December 21, 2017


Pursuant to the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, as amended (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.) (IEEPA), I hereby report that I have issued the enclosed Executive Order (the “order”) declaring a national emergency with respect to the unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security, foreign policy, and economy of the United States posed by serious human rights abuse and corruption around the world. In addition to taking action under IEEPA, the order implements the Global Magnitsky Human Rights Accountability Act (Public Law 114-328) (the “Act”) and delegates certain of its authorities.

The order blocks the property and interests in property of persons listed in the Annex to the order. It also blocks the property and interests in property of any foreign person determined by the Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Attorney General:

(1) to be responsible for or complicit in, or to have directly or indirectly engaged in, serious human rights abuse;

(2) to be a current or former government official, or a person acting for or on behalf of such an official, who is responsible for or complicit in, or has directly or indirectly engaged in:

(a) corruption, including the misappropriation of state assets, the expropriation of private assets for personal gain, corruption related to government contracts or the extraction of natural resources, or bribery; or

(b) the transfer or the facilitation of the transfer of the proceeds of corruption;

(3) to be or have been a leader or official of:

(a) an entity, including any government entity, that has engaged in, or whose members have engaged in, any of the activities described in (1), (2)(a), or (2)(b) above relating to the leader’s or official’s tenure; or

(b) an entity whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to the order as a result of activities related to the leader’s or the official’s tenure; or

(4) to have attempted to engage in any of the activities described in (1), (2)(a), or (2)(b) above.

The order also blocks any person determined by the Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Attorney General:

(5) to have materially assisted, sponsored, or provided financial, material, or technological support for, or goods or services to or in support of:

(a) any activity described in (1), (2)(a), or (2)(b) above that is conducted by a foreign person;

(b) any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to the order; or

(c) any entity described in (3)(a) above where the activity is conducted by a foreign person;

(6) to be owned or controlled by, or to have acted or purported to act for or on behalf of, directly or indirectly, any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to the order; or

(7) to have attempted to engage in any of the activities described in (5) or (6) above.

In addition, the order suspends entry into the United States of any alien listed in the Annex or determined to meet one or more of the criteria above.

I have delegated to the Secretary of the Treasury the authority, in consultation with the Secretary of State, to take such actions, including adopting rules and regulations, and to employ all powers granted to the President by IEEPA and the Act, as may be necessary to implement the order and relevant provisions of the Act. I have delegated to the Secretary of State the authority to take such actions, including adopting rules and regulations, and to employ all powers granted to the President by IEEPA and the Act, as may be necessary to implement the provisions of the order and the Act suspending entry into the United States of certain aliens. All executive departments and agencies are directed to take all appropriate measures within their authority to implement the order.


December 20, 2017.

Accepted. Trump is clearly draining the swamp. 

Chris said:

Happy New Year Nancy and Zetas!!

Any comment?

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Text of a letter from the President to the Congress of the United States. December 21, 2017
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There have been hints in the alternative media that a purge of the Deep State involved in crimes using the cover of the authority of the United States was in process. Trump’s recent statement that it was the “calm before the storm”, and various rumors that hundreds and perhaps up to 4,000 indictments had been issued, waiting to be served. Clear signs that both Hillary and McCain were under House Arrest due to their ankle bracelet boots, where McCain even switched his boot to the wrong foot for a press interview, being forgetful and senile. The Marines landing at Langley, CIA headquarters one recent weekend, and then FBI email released showing they were under instructions to help Hillary win the 2016 election. The elevation of Hillary’s Uranium One debacle
and the return of the illegal email server issues to the spotlight, with AG Sessions allowing these matters to return to investigation. This followed by the retirement plans
of the FBI’s second in command, McCabe. The Saudi Arabia purge of princes involved in looting the Kingdom’s treasury,
which we reported was to block an attempted assassination of the King by the Soros crowd.

These are all clues as to the pertinence of Trumps National Emergency order, and clues are all you should expect to receive. We have stated that the Junta currently running the US government does not want their status pushed in the face of the American public. The US is not under Martial Law, per se, but the talking heads on TV would endlessly ramble on about who was in charge. In that public awareness of Nibiru, and what its passage will mean, is pending and urgent, there are more important matters to address. That said, what does Trump’s Executive Order mean? It means that all Hillary funds, laundered through the Clinton Foundation, will be confiscated. She and Bill accepted deposits from African dictators known for their human rights abuses. All Soros funds will be confiscated. Any Saudi funds on US soil that the King cannot access will be confiscated. US politicians known to be padding their pockets with drug money will find this confiscated, and that includes Herbert Bush, the drug Kingpin. None of these matters will be in the press, per se.

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My question is on regard an old myth, the Thunderbird. Was this supernatural bird real? Was it just a big bird? Is it still alive and flying around as many witnesses testify year after year? And now we even have a live video of a giant shadow flying by race cars on live TV show.  Would the Zetas care to comment on this matter?
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Cameras capture 'bizarre' image during closing stages of US Grand Prix. October 22, 2017. A bizarre image came to the limelight during the race as video cameras captured a silhouette image of what appears to be a giant bird flying over the circuit in Texas. It was on lap 48 when on Turn 1, when the shadow figure was distinctly visible which looked enormous compared to the Formula One car itself.
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The thunderbird is a legendary creature in certain North American indigenous peoples' history and culture. It is considered a supernatural being of power and strength. It is especially important, and frequently depicted, in the art, songs and oral histories of many Pacific Northwest Coast cultures, but is also found in various forms among some peoples of the American Southwest, East Coast of the United States, Great Lakes, and Great Plains.
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An extraordinary event in the Rio Grande Valley.  I was in South Texas. A commercial airliner that was apparently coming in for a landing (or possibly a departure) at McAllen Int’l Airport had swung around in an arc behind the objects…and for a long moment I could see the two indiscriminate black objects superimposed upon the body of the airliner.

The legendary Thunderbird is real, but has been pushed to the brink of extinction by human development in many parts of its habitation. The bird is a cousin of the vultures, as drawings depict, and thus is not aggressive. It feeds on dead creatures, which can be found in the deserts of Southwest Texas and along shorelines where bodies of seals and whales and fish wash ashore. Being a passive opportunist, it avoids the hustle that mankind produces, with freeways and boats and airplanes. The young are not well fed and die. The Thunderbird flies at a high altitude, scanning for food, and thus sightings can be argued to be a smaller bird, the distance unknown. It nests in very remote places, above cliffs where man does not venture, thus bodies have not been recovered. This vulture cousin is revered in Native American cultures strictly because of its size, equivalent to the elephants of Africa or the Sperm Whale in the oceans. Will it die out entirely? After the Pole Shift, when mankind’s machines are silenced, it may rebound and be seen more often.

It's weather madness on both sides of the Atlantic as parts the US records lowest cold; parts of Europe record highest warmth in living memory.   

Weather madness hits the Northern Hemisphere as extremes are recorded on both sides of the Atlantic.
While parts of the US are colder than Mars and are expected to have the coldest new years eve in living memoryHolland is enjoying it's warmest new years eve in living memory as the Limburg town of Ell recorded a temperature of 14 deg C (57. 2 deg F).
The previous record was established in 2006 when it was 13.3 degrees in Woensdrecht.
Holland is currently warmer than parts of Spain, Greece and parts of Italy.
Southern UK is also witnessing record warm temperatures but Scotland is expected to plunge to -2 deg C.
STORM Dylan could pose a “danger to life” today as heavy rain and gusts of up to 80mph are due to hit parts of the UK early today.
Forecasters warned of flying debris from strong winds in Northern England, Northern Ireland and Scotland.


This looks like a major lean to me. Could the Zetas say something about this?


Gerard Zwaan said:

This looks like a major lean to me. Could the Zetas say something about this?

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It's weather madness on both sides of the Atlantic as parts the US records lowest cold; parts of Europe record highest warmth in living memory.   Weather madness hits the Northern Hemisphere as extremes are recorded on both sides of the Atlantic. While parts of the US are colder than Mars and are expected to have the coldest New Year’s Eve in living memory Holland is enjoying its warmest New Year’s Eve in living memory.
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Departure of surface temperature from average for December 28, 2017. Areas in red and orange are not necessarily warm, but they are above the average for this time of year at that location. While the Northeast U.S. was experiencing near-record cold, the globe as a whole was 0.5 °C above average.

As is known, the Magnetic North Pole has drifted from Northern Canada to a new position over Siberia. It has also been a staple of the daily Earth wobble that the Polar Push
shoves against the Magnetic N Pole of Earth when the Earth’s rotation turns to face its Magnetic N Pole toward Nibiru. Nibiru is currently pointing its Magnetic North Pole directly at the Earth, thus this Polar Push is intense. Under these circumstances, the Earth can go into opposition,
where instead of trying to align end-to-end with the stronger magnet, it points its Magnetic N Pole directly at Nibiru.

Thus where Siberia would normally be pushed away to where it would receive less sunlight, it is now facing the Sun more directly, thus warmer. Where the N American Continent would normally be where the Earth bounces back from the Polar Push, in a more southern latitude, it lingers near the Arctic where it has been positioned during the lean into opposition. The effects of the Polar Push have, temporarily, been reversed. These opposition alignments are always temporary, however, so the N American continent will soon find its temps well above average.

Prior ZT:
The Figure 8, well established in 2004 when the wobble first began, has changed. The Figure 8 originated with what we called the Polar Push, an increasingly violent push against the Earth’s magnetic N Pole. This occurred when the Sun was over the Pacific and the N Pole rose over the horizon to face the Sun and Nibiru. Then the Earth would recover by the N Pole twisting first to one side and then the other and finally a bounce back into position.

Prior ZT:
As Planet X moved closer still, enveloping Earth in its magnetosphere, a type of flipping about also began, where the Earth would tilt its N Pole away or flip in the other direction, into opposition along the magnetic flow lines of Planet X. The Earth will attempt to placate the dominant magnetic field of Planet X by lying in opposition, actually pointing its N Pole toward the Sun.

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I'm aware other inhabited planets, in physical-material frequency, go thru crises similar to Earth's present crises. I'm aware some planets fail to navigate their crises successfully, such as Maldek, the current asteroid belt.  What about planets, who do get thru pole changes and oligarchy overthrows successfully?  Which planets are these?  What can we learn from them?  Is Sweden's history of peaceful oligarch overthrow common or very rare?

The Earth, at present, is a 3rd Density spiritual schoolhouse where young souls are allowed to experience a broad range of challenges. These young souls either grow toward empathy, becoming Service-to-Other, or fail to grow and like a newborn, remain in the Service-to-Self, centered on promoting and protecting the self. When faced with the challenges that life on Earth presents, the young soul has choices, and this includes a range of options on how to deal with the physical environment as well as societal choices. Should one become a farmer, helping to feed others, or should one become an addict, stealing to support a habit?

Have other schoolhouse worlds, those in 3rd Density, experienced Pole Shifts? Absolutely, though this is not the norm. Despite the sudden and horrific assault that a Pole Shift will bring to the Earth, each assault is no different, in essence, from what man experiences
today. Hurricane force winds are experienced during hurricanes today. Tidal waves are experienced during tsunamis today. The collapse of cites and the loss of infrastructure is experienced during earthquakes today. And the failure of the ruling elite to be honest with the common man is absolutely nothing new, but prevalent today.

In describing intelligent life throughout the Universe, we have stated that most worlds are water worlds, with only a tiny percentage evolving hominoids to be the intelligent species. It is useless to try to compare the societal arrangements or reactions to physical catastrophe on other worlds to those on Earth, beyond stating that both Service-to-Other or Service-to-Self behavior are prevalent. Denial,
when faced with overwhelming catastrophe, is common on all worlds. We anticipate that even when officially acknowledged, the pending passage of Nibiru will result in denial among over half of the populace of Earth.

As we have stated, the Council of Worlds has taken steps to slow down the 7 of 10 Plate Movements with humming boxes, in order to allow the establishment more time to inform the populace.
The overall outcome - the Pole Shift – will not be stopped or delayed. In the interim between the present, when most of the world is unaware of what is coming, and the hour of the Pole Shift
itself, will be a time of challenge for man. This is in the hands of man, and thus cannot be predicted. This will likewise vary from country to country, from religion to religion, from family to family, with every possible variation expressed.

When a leader, either in officialdom or a natural leader that has emerged, points to and facilitates survival steps, this allows for hope and thus less denial and thus empathy can flourish. Denial requires a struggle to maintain a focus on pretense, so this energy is robbed from preparations to help others. This is why the Council of Worlds is pressing for the truth about Nibiru to be made known. Russia is an example of good leadership, where the Patriarch Kirill had admitted the End Times have arrived and Putin has arranged for the Far East in Russia to support his populace.

In the US there is a struggle to clear the deck so that the media is forced to comply with a Nibiru admission, and to counter the Deep State installed during prior administrations so it cannot take advantage of chaos and riots to upend the current Trump administration. The public is unaware of this struggle, which is intense and moving rapidly to a conclusion, primarily because it is being pushed by the Council of Worlds. The 7 of 10 Plate Movements have been allowed to return to their normal pace and outcome, and the daily Wobble and dramatic visibility of the Nibiru complex are in force.

We have been asked in the past how the various elite in control in countries around the world will react
as the truth about the pending passage is unveiled. We anticipate that religion, whether a personal belief or a state religion, will have a dominant role as all major religions and many alternative belief systems speak of the End Times and its outcome. Religion tends to reward the faithful,
unfortunately, where practical steps for survival camps to reduce starvation and injury are what is needed. The US and Europe are expected to arrive at this point before the Pole Shift date.

In those countries with little recourse, where Safe Locations within the borders do not exist and migration to other countries is blocked, denial from the official voice should be expected. In India, stressing reincarnation as a reality may comfort. Illegal migration
is already in process from sinking lands or from those lands suffering crop failures. Houseboat communities
will develop, fed by the fish that feed on the dead and rotting material in newly flooded lands. The political process will steadily break down to become local governments only, due to infrastructure failures. Life will become simple, with spiritual lessons at the fore.

Prior 1996 ZT:
Denial is a common reaction to learning that the world you know, which you as a child had always considered would be secure, is going to essentially disappear. Denial protects one from having to incorporate what has been learned into one's life. One can treat the news like a thing apart, like a possibility, similar to a meteor landing on your head or being struck by lightning. Remote. For those who do not duck the issues, there is an adjustment period. One looks around, seeing the sunny day, the smiling faces, the usual empty chatter on the newscasts, and no longer feels one can relate to this. Yet all the loved ones are living in this world. Should one leave them? Should one fit into their life, and pretend? The terrible future one contemplates stares at one from afar, but each day draws closer. How to make major adjustments to prepare for this, when any preparation is considered insanity, or desertion, or neglect.

Prior 1995 ZT:
The pole shift is therefore sudden, taking place in what seems to be minutes to humans involved in the drama, but which actually takes place during the better part of an hour. There are stages, between which the human spectators, in shock, are numb. At first there is a vibration of sorts, a jiggling, as the crust separates in various places from the core. Then there is a slide, where the crust is dragged, over minutes, to a new location, along with the core. During the slide, tidal waves move over the Earth along the coast lines, as the water is not attached and can move independently. The water tends to stay where it is, the crust moving under it, essentially. When the core finds itself aligned, it churns about somewhat, settling, but the crust, more solid and in motion, proceeds on. This is in fact where mountain building and massive earthquakes occur, just as car crashes do their damage on the point of impact, when motion must stop.

Prior ZT:
We have repeatedly stated that the coming Pole Shift is a natural event, and as such the Council of Worlds will not interfere with it. Man’s school house is designed to challenge man, so that spiritual lessons may proceed. Do benign aliens prevent tornadoes from shredding towns, floods from drowning those in its path, or prevent lightning from a sudden and unexpected strike? 

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Many cast about for certainty, to assist them in their decisions, which are of great import in their lives. Who can they look to, for answers? The church, which preaches Armageddon, but does not give a date, and states that clinging to the doctrine and being one of the faithful will save the faithful in a rapture. The governments, which will become increasingly tight-lipped as this year passes, doors shut, no comment, and can be expected only to follow their current line of revelation, which is close to nil. Major Media.

My question this time ..

There have been inferences that North Korea is not operating alone, but is in essence a puppet of the Bush/Clinton/Soros cabal, the same group trying to push Trump into war so martial law can emerge in the US. Ben Fulford has alluded to this. Q Anon comes right out and states this. It has been apparent that Soros is trying to fund chaos, and now this. How does chaos result in their being in control?
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November 27, 2017. The 7th Fleet is soon going to stop protecting the corrupt politicians in Japan, South Korea, and the secret Khazarian cabal colony of North Korea. 
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History lesson: Why did Bill Clinton’s North Korea deal fail?
August 29, 2017
North Korea’s program was clearly created to churn out nuclear weapons; the reactor at Yongbyon was not connected to the power grid and appeared only designed to produce plutonium, a key ingredient for nuclear weapons. The theory of the deal was that, with the plant shuttered and the plutonium under the close watch of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), North Korea would not be able to produce a bomb. There were also vague references in the text to improving relations and commerce. Clinton structured the agreement so that it was not considered a treaty that would have required ratification by the Senate.  Former Clinton administration officials have said they knew North Korea was cheating on the uranium enrichment front dating back to 1998 and planned to use that intelligence as leverage to keep the Agreed Framework in place and the plutonium under lock and key. Other Clinton administration officials will also concede that they never thought they would have to build the light-water reactors because they assumed, wrongly, that the regime would collapse before the reactors would be built. But in the end, the regime has survived. 
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Fact check: Clinton's record at State Department during Middle East chaos
July 27, 2016
Hillary Clinton's tenure as President Obama's first secretary of State from 2009 through January 2013 was marked by extreme turmoil in the Middle East. It included the Arab Spring protests, Iranian nuclear brinkmanship and withdrawal of U.S. troops in Iraq. Republican rival Donald Trump said her tenure at State left a legacy of "death, destruction and weakness." ISIS took advantage of growing instability in Syria to seize territory there. Under her leadership, the State Department sought to work with various post-Mubarak political parties, including the Muslim Brotherhood, a previously outlawed group that tried to impose hard-line Islamic rule in a country used to a secular government. 

Why has the Clinton cabal encouraged chaos, as has Soros, a friend and supporter of Hillary Clinton? It is not just Bill Clinton as President ensuring that N Korea had nuclear material, the stuff of nuclear bombs. During her time as Secretary of State, Hillary laid the groundwork for ISIS to arise, destabilizing the Middle East. Soros as we have noted funded Black Lives Matter and funded race riots
in the US, and was responsible for trying to generate ISIS terrorist attacks
in the US as well in Europe. Israel had a hand in the Charlie Hebdo attacks.
Erdogan and Merkel have been shown to be colluding to install ISIS sleeper cells
in Europe.

What is the purpose of generating all this chaos? The cabal works together, in what is known as the group trying to effect a New World Order.
They operate by debt slavery, using the IMF and World Bank to create debt in developing countries. This has been countered by the BRICS consortium. Where the New World Order cabal is not in control, they are trying to destabilize the existing leadership. They plan to rise from the chaos, in control. Look who they are trying to install - unreliable and immature leaders, who are puppets. Not intelligent or capable or effective leadership.

Erdogan and Merkel wanted ISIS youth to run Europe, as they can be manipulated. The leadership among Shia and Sunni sects are set against each other, to destroy the current leadership. Iran’s irrational and war prone leadership was supported by Obama’s deal. The Saudis could be led in the past as they were a motley crew of pampered princes. Blacks in the US would be used to destroy local governments. Mexican immigrants would be used to invade white enclaves and roll over the border into Canada. Once the breakdown of leadership had occurred, the alternative leadership waiting would take over. That was the plan. Divide to conquer.

There is no theme that is consistent among the weak and ineffective leadership being installed by the New World Order cabal and their ultimate agenda. Instead, the New World Order would eventually set these weak leaders against each other. Europe was to be secured by ISIS cells and then later, when the citizens had been eliminated, German leadership, chosen, would eliminate the ISIS infection. Soros and Hillary wanted Martial Law in the US as they have contacts in the military they would push forward, and assumed they could assassinate the current Junta. All their plans, everywhere are being blocked, funds confiscated, pedophilia blackmail material seized.

Prior ZT:
What this dying German engineer is reporting it that these bunkers in Germany anticipate housing Muslims almost exclusively. He then hypothesizes that these young Muslim men will be used to kill off German survivors who would not be considered top grade workers for the elite. Merkel has been an aggressive proponent of bringing in Syrian refugees, who seem to be disproportionately young men rather than complete families with women and young children and the aged. This begs the question, why did these young men desert their families? The suggestion made by this German engineer, in his deathbed confession, is that this refugee welcome is deliberate, to sculpt the population into a worker force rather than a citizen base demanding social services. Was this Merkel’s plan, and has it failed? Yes.

Hi Nancy and Zetas,

Could the Zetas comment if it's possible and if there is anything to add to the previous ZetaTalk?Image source:

Did SpaceX’s secret Zuma mission actually fail?

"Conflicting reports say the satellite fell out of the sky

Late Sunday night, SpaceX appeared to successfully launch a classified satellite named Zuma for some unknown government agency — but it’s possible the mysterious spacecraft may have been lost once in space. Rumors started circulating on Monday that the satellite malfunctioned when it reached orbit, and both the Wall Street Journal and Bloomberg have reported that Zuma actually fell back to Earth and burned up in the planet’s atmosphere. So what really happened to the satellite? No one is speaking up on the record, but it seems clear that something went wrong."

Reference: Grush, L. (2018, January 09). Did SpaceXs secret Zuma mission actually fail? Retrieved January 09, 2018, from

Thank you very much


Stanislav said:

Could the Zetas comment if it's possible and if there is anything to add to the previous ZetaTalk? 

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Has the council intervened?
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Did SpaceXs secret Zuma mission actually fail? January 9, 2018
SpaceX appeared to successfully launch a classified satellite named Zuma for some unknown government agency — but it’s possible the mysterious spacecraft may have been lost once in space. Rumors started circulating that the satellite malfunctioned when it reached orbit, and that Zuma actually fell back to Earth and burned up in the planet’s atmosphere. So what really happened to the satellite? No one is speaking up on the record, but it seems clear that something went wrong.
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January 7, 2018.
SpaceX lofted the super-secret Zuma spacecraft for the U.S. government tonight (Jan. 7), successfully executing a mission that also featured yet another landing by the first stage of the company's Falcon 9 rocket.
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Lost in space? Secret SpaceX Zuma satellite a total loss – reports
January 8, 2017
The highly classified and expensive government satellite launched by a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket from Cape Canaveral has reportedly been destroyed. Despite the launch being shrouded in secrecy, SpaceX seemed to have successfully carried a mysterious government satellite from Cape Canaveral Air Force Station. SpaceX was able to land the booster’s first stage, while the second stage continued to carry the secretive Zuma payload to its destination in low-orbit. The payload failed to detach from the second stage properly. The Zuma satellite was attached to the second stage of the Falcon 9 rocket, which is designed to fall back to Earth and burn up in reentry. The payload fell back to Earth attached to the second stage of the Falcon 9. The satellite “may be dead in orbit” after it separated from the SpaceX rocket.
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Nov 26, 2017
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While the Falcon 9 rocket launched and landed without incident, the top-secret payload, known as Zuma, apparently didn't separate as planned from the rocket and plunged back into the atmosphere.

Contrary to being a failure, Zuma is a smashing success! The goal, as we stated when Zuma was delayed last November,
was to be restrictive, so that the Deep State would not be privy to the information Zuma sent back. How best to explain the silence but to claim a loss! Silently sailing in low-Earth orbit, Zuma is collecting information on Nibiru’s approach, and returning this treasure trove to the Junta in charge in the US and Heads of State in China and Russia. Those who would use the information for harm will not be informed.

Prior ZT:
What is Zuma’s secret mission?  Space X is considered a restricted environment, outside of the normal federal program development process. Federal expenditures require approval and tracking, auditors, Congressional oversight, and many civil servants who cannot be fired or bypassed. At the present time, the Junta in charge of the US and Heads of State in China and Russia are most concerned that they, in government, are able to compute when the Last Weeks are approaching. Zuma’s payload will include infrared and dozens of other sensors which can help estimate the approach of the passage. The Deep State, with its many agendas, will not be privy to this information.

Every year the murder rate seems to go down. Any reason for that.

Not just in New York

Accepted. Curious trend!

J A said:

Every year the murder rate seems to go down.

Any reason for that? Not just in New York.
[and from another]
2017 was record-low for homicides in New York City, with NYPD logging lowest number in nearly 70 years. December 31, 2017. Unofficial numbers show that the NYPD had investigated 290 homicides so far this year — a number the NYPD hasn’t seen in nearly 70 years. The 2017 numbers are a 61% drop from two decades ago, when there were 746 slayings — which was at the time considered a 30-year low.
[and from another]
Find the rate for murder and nonnegligent manslaughter per 100,000 people in the United States. 2014 (4.5), 2009 (5.0), 2004 (5.5), 1999 (5.7).
[and from another]
A study undertaken by the Geneva Declaration on Armed Violence and Development estimated that there were approximately 490,000 intentional homicides in 2004. The study estimated that the global rate was 7.6 intentional homicides per 100,000 inhabitants for 2004. UNODC (United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime) reported a global average intentional homicide rate of 6.2 per 100,000 population for 2012 (in their report titled "Global Study on Homicide 2013"). UNODC calculated a rate of 6.9 in 2010.
[and from another]
Puerto Rico fears post-Maria murder surge: 11 days, 32 slain. January 12, 2018. Two men were found dead with their feet and hands bound in Bayamon, a working-class city southwest of the capital. Another man was shot to death before dawn in nearby Vega Baja while trying to stop thieves from stealing his generator. Thirty-two people have been slain in Puerto Rico in the first 11 days of the year, double the number killed over the same period in 2017. The storm has plunged much of the island into darkness, increased economic hardship and contributed to a sickout by police, all fueling lawlessness. What’s more, officials say a turf war has broken out among drug gangs looking to grab territory after the storm’s disruption.

It is clear from numerous sources of statistics on the murder rate, that murders, worldwide, have been decreasing for years. Why would this be so when stressors such as poverty, starvation, disasters and political upheaval have if anything increased? It is the quiet progress of the spiritual Transformation of Earth,
wherein the Earth gradually becomes a planet predominantly inhabited by those in the Service-to-Other. As deaths occur, those leaning heavily to the Service-to-Self are not allowed to reincarnate on Earth, but are taken to the water planet that awaits those still considered spiritually undecided.

Thus the Earth gradually increases the percentage of her peoples who are leaning to the Service-to-Other. Another trend is an increase in Walk-Ins, Service-to-Other souls from other worlds who have come to the Earth to do service during her Transformation. Why then are there reports, as the recent report from Puerto Rico, where the murder rate has spiked? As the Transformation proceeds, as we have stated, there is increasing polarization
of the orientations. Those in the Service-to-Other are prone to find and live with each other, and likewise the Service-to-Self tend to migrate to live with each other. These trends will all continue to exacerbate.

Prior 1995 ZT:
At first, this polarization and separation takes place family by family, then township by township, then spreading to larger areas. In step with spiritual change, physical change has taken place. The concepts espoused by the Green Movement, begun in the Netherlands, are now espoused worldwide, and words and thoughts have been followed by action.  The results, evident only within the past few years, include microbes that eat pollution, plants that cleanse the soil, and alternative natural products that don't pollute. Likewise, some religious movements such as Islamic dictates have become more harsh and repressive, resulting in increased restrictions on women. 

Prior 1995 ZT:
The Earth is undergoing a subtle transformation, as the Transformation is now. This Transformation has been progressing for at least this century, and will go for at least a century more.  The world involves an increasing separation, by orientation, as the Transformation proceeds. 


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