ZetaTalk Chat for August 31, 2021

[Nancy Lieder]

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Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 78 years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

[Recall 15]

Hello Nancy:

This may help visualize the Wooble Movement:

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email and ZetaTalk Followers:

There has been some big quakes SW of Africa today and it could have caused EMP over in that area?
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6 ships in Gulf of Oman lose control, days after vessel attacked by drones
August 3, 2021
https://www.timesofisrael.com/4-ships-in-gulf-of-oman-lose-control-...
Reports say Iranian-backed forces may have seized Asphalt Princess tanker; British military calls it a ‘potential hijack’. At least six ships off the coast of the United Arab Emirates broadcast warnings that they had lost control of their steering under unclear circumstances as British authorities reported “a potential hijack” was underway in the area. The six vessels announced around the same time via their Automatic Identification System trackers that they were “not under command,” according to MarineTraffic.com. That typically means a vessel has lost power and can no longer steer.
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Iranian-backed forces believed to have seized tanker - maritime security sources
August 3, 2021
https://www.reuters.com/article/shipping-security-emirates-seizure-...
Iranian-backed forces are believed to have seized an oil tanker in the Gulf off the coast of the United Arab Emirates. Iran’s foreign ministry said reports of security incidents involving several ships near the UAE coast were “suspicious” and warned against any effort to create a “false atmosphere” against Tehran.
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Troubled ship off UAE coast is ‘safe’ after boarders leave, UK Navy agency says amid reports about Iranian hijacking
August 4, 2021
https://www.rt.com/news/531075-ship-hijacked-gulf-oman/
The Panama-flagged asphalt and bitumen tanker Asphalt Princess was hijacked by a group of armed men, which were believed to have been acting on behalf of Iran. According to the vessel-tracking website MarinceTraffic.com, the ship changed course and began heading towards Iranian waters off the port of Jask, but later stopped and changed course back towards Oman. The reported incident comes amid heightened tensions in the region, as international shipping has repeatedly become hostage to the conflict between Iran and the West. The US, UK, and Israel blamed Iran for a drone attack on the Israeli-operated oil tanker Mercer Street off the coast of Oman, which killed two crew members. Tehran denied any involvement.
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https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=125106859835053&a...
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http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/cover-up-games-magnetosphe...
Almost 6 hours of BATSRUS  Y-Cut and other ISWA Magnetosphere cygnet omissions  Aug 4, 2021.
The Y-cut last image 01:32 and first return image 07:27 UTC following omission period. The 07:27 image also recording a Polarity Increase. 24 hour ACE Magnetic Field readings. ISWA KP Index and solar wind speeds/velocity. The daytime forward Sun facing portion of Earth's Magnetosphere. Even SWPC is showing omissions, with the KP Index well within the range of normal in the hours before and after omissions. Must of been one hell of a magnetic blast (last night was a tough night for me to sleep).  

SOZT
The African Roll involves pressure on the Saudi Plate, as the NE corner of the African Plate slides down from a hook at Turkey, thence scrapes past Syria and Israel, and finally scrapes past Saudi Arabia. This at first pushes the top of the Saudi boot to the East, then later to the West, creating turmoil in the oil fields of Iraq. Since the Saudi Plate has a point at the UAE that would experience pressure during any movement of the Saudi Plate, did the geology of this region play a role in the early August tanker incident in the Gulf of Oman?

When Electro-Magnetic Pulse arcs from compressed rock to the charged atmosphere above it certainly knocks out mankind’s electronics. The EMP was so strong going into August 4 that all of mankind’s instruments to the Magnetosphere were knocked out of commission. Would this likewise cause tankers to lose their steering control? Despite claims by Britain that this was caused by Iranian terrorists boarding the tankers, there is no evidence of this claim. Nor does the number of tankers involved (up to 8) support the British claim. This was EMP.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted from the ZetaTalk Followers site: 

August 5th 2021 11:53AM SE Idaho - Well I am going to add to the mystery and ask just what in the heck is going on here? Here is something rather new above the Sun. It kind of looks like the viewing portals on a craft but in all likelihood we are seeing strings of pearls as it were. Hoping to hear from Nancy and the Zetas on this one.

SOZT
In these photo captures from Idaho there are Moon Swirls above the Sun seen from the side, having captured and incorporated Petrol. This creates a fuzzy rather than a brilliant image, and when the Petrol is attracted to the Sun it drifts away from the elongated swirl. The reason the mass of Petrol has started to change the view is because it has caught up to Nibiru, which has slowed its pace as it prepares to pierce the Ecliptic. Depending upon how much debris and Petrol is attracted to moons in a String of Pearls, the string will either have clarity, showing the individual moons, or appear as a streak.

This photo has also captured another phenomenon, as both the fuzzy Moon Swirls above the Sun and one of the String of Pearls below the Sun are arranged as a pair. A swirl has a point of compression where matter is being pushed and an associated void point where matter is being pulled away. When a swirl develops in a Moon Swirl, the motion pulls other moons and debris toward the void. If the Repulsion Force prevents more material from joining, a second Moon Swirl develops. This dual chain can develop for a String of Pearls too.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email: 

Attached below are some odd storm formations off of Japan. I say odd, because they seem to be going East when usually they go West onto land. Is this the wobble causing this odd variation of the norm?
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https://courses.lumenlearning.com/atd-herkimer-worldgeography/chapt...
https://www.britannica.com/science/tropical-cyclone/Tracking-and-fo...
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https://www.britannica.com/place/Kuroshio
Kuroshio, (Japanese: “Black Current”) also called Japan Current, strong surface oceanic current of the Pacific Ocean, the northeasterly flowing continuation of the Pacific North Equatorial Current between Luzon of the Philippines and the east coast of Japan. This flow, known as the Kuroshio Extension, eventually becomes the North Pacific Current (also known as the North Pacific West Wind Drift). Much of this current’s force is lost west of the Hawaiian Islands as a great south-flowing eddy, the Kuroshio countercurrent, joins the Pacific North Equatorial Current and directs the warm water back to the Philippine Sea. 
[and from another]
https://www.britannica.com/topic/North-Pacific-Current
[and from another]
Climate Change Could Shut Down a Vital Ocean Current, Study Finds
August 5, 2021
https://www.yahoo.com/news/climate-change-could-shut-down-220313885...
The Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation, or AMOC, a section of the Gulf Stream, transports warm water from the tropics northward and cold water from the North Atlantic to the south.

SOZT
Why have cyclones off the coast of China and Japan turned outward to the East, where they normally turn to the West to make landfall? The Kuroshio, known as Japan’s Black Current, flows in that direction, carrying warm water from the Philippines out into the Pacific, but it is subsequently reversed by other Pacific currents that force cyclones westward. For the past few years, the Atlantic Gulf Stream has weakened. Are these currents affected by the increasingly violent Daily Earth Wobble?

The Wobble creates turmoil in the Atmosphere by two mechanisms. It turns the Earth under its blanket of air so that the heat or cold of a land mass affects the air mass above it. It can cause this heat exchange to happen rapidly or cause it to linger longer. And it can cause an air mass to build up so that it becomes a high-pressure area, or conversely cause an air mass to deflate so it becomes a low-pressure area in the extreme. Storms are caused by these pressure differences, but do atmospheric conditions affect ocean currents?

Ocean currents are affected by the Coriolis Effect whereby the globe turns so that its blankets of air and water are left behind. They at first are thus going West as the globe goes East, but then curl in the temperate regions to return both the air and water to the Equator. The Figure 8 of the Daily Earth Wobble includes a Lean to the East and a Lean to the West of the N Pole. A Lean to the East allows the Pacific to pile water up near Japan but a Lean to the West creates a void. It is the latter that is causing a new Cyclone path.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted from the chat: 

Drought or intentional?
[and from another]
Recreation at Risk as Lake Powell Dips to Historic Low
August 6,2021
https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/recreation-at-risk-as-lake-powell...
Lake Powell is the second-largest reservoir in the United States, right behind Nevada’s Lake Mead, which also stores water from the Colorado River. Both are shrinking faster than expected.
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Dixie Fire becomes Largest Single Wildfire in California History
August 6, 2021
https://www.politico.com/states/california/story/2021/08/06/dixie-f...
The Dixie Fire burning in two Northern California counties is now the largest single wildfire in recorded state history, exploding in size overnight as drought-stricken lands continue to fuel the flames. The fire, which has burned for 23 days and forced mass evacuations, razed the Gold Rush town of Greenville. The Dixie Fire is eerily similar to the 2018 Camp Fire, the deadliest and most destructive blaze in state history. The Camp Fire leveled the towns of Paradise and Concow, destroying nearly 19,000 structures and killing 85 people.
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2018 Campfire blaze
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue634.htm
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'Complete Devastation'; Walking Through Greenville's Burnt Remains
August 6, 2021
https://weather.com/news/weather/video/complete-devastation-walking...
Smoke fills the air of what’s left of Greenville, CA, after the Dixie Fire moved through the town in a matter of hours, leaving total devastation in its wake.

SOZT
There is a nexus between the 2018 Camp Fire scorched Earth in Paradise and the 2021 Dixie fire in Greenville. Camp Fire was declared the largest wildfire in California history but now Dixie has claimed that crown. These locations are almost on top of each other, located in the same general vicinity in ravines and creek beds, with only thin crust to separate the surface from the rock strata of the Pacific Plate sliding under it. That there is drought in the area is insignificant, as the fire comes up from the ground and literally melts all in its path.

Points to the North of this part of California have the Juan de Fuca Plate as a buffer, and points to the South have the Cocos Plate as a buffer, but this part of California has no buffer when subduction occurs along the San Andreas. As we explained in 2018,
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue634.htm
hot earth from rapid and direct subduction is well recorded in history by the West Coast Indians during the last crustal shift. Our advice for the hapless residents of these areas is to stay high on the ridges, away from the creek beds or gullies.
EOZT

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31jy2018.htm
We have described hot earth as being a danger during the hour of the Pole Shift. This is due to friction from rapidly shifting rock layers found along plate borders or fault lines. The fires are ultra-hot, seeming to spring up from the ground, and too numerous and widespread to be caused by arson. Fires spread by wind will find the upper levels of homes burned and are spotty as sparks carried by the wind cause secondary fires.  The Juan de Fuca Plate is pushing under the N American Plate.

[david vensel]

Nancy I have a question for the Zetas, I keep reading and hearing that the Patriots are in control, then Why are they letting us suffer what is happening world wide and in the USA and let this madness keep on happening when the patriots say they have all the information to take down the Cabal and deep state? 

[Lana]

Around the world, we see a coordinated effort to force the vaccination on the people. Some countries made vaccines mandatory for certain groups (Pakistan, Italy...) and others are introducing very restrictive measures for the unvaccinated.

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/france-italy-set-roll-out-increa...

Also there is almost a complete mainstream media blackout on how ineffective and dangerous the vaccines are, and we only see a propaganda messages and stronger push to vaccinate. Although, every day more and more truth is surfacing:

https://twitter.com/RanIsraeli/status/1423322271503028228

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/did-cdc-director-just-accidental...

Can the Zetas comment what are the real intentions behind this agenda and where is this leading?

[Nancy Lieder]

Because they are NOT in control. They are in the heat of battle. As I detailed in a June Newsletter, in the Silent Victories section (http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue768.htm) the Junta in the US is fighting a 5 front war, and in Europe the White Hats/Alliance also has many fronts. Antifa funded by the Soros billions, CCP invasion of the US homeland and even under the White House, Satanists with Moloch child torture and rape trafficing networks, Deep State treason and oh yes, the 2020 election fraud. Made good progress on all but still intense battle. That is NOT in control. And in Europe the Heads of State like Queen and Merkle are now Doubles but .. so many underlings with wrong thinking still. I think the Patriots should say "winning our battles" and drop the 'in control". 

david vensel said:

Nancy I have a question for the Zetas, I keep reading and hearing that the Patriots are in control, then 

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted

Lana said:

Around the world, we see a coordinated effort to force the vaccination on the people.

Some countries made vaccines mandatory for certain groups (Pakistan, Italy...) and others are introducing very restrictive measures for the unvaccinated. Also there is almost a complete mainstream media blackout on how ineffective and dangerous the vaccines are, and we only see a propaganda messages and stronger push to vaccinate. Although, every day more and more truth is surfacing. Can the Zetas comment what are the real intentions behind this agenda and where is this leading?
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https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/france-italy-set-roll-out-increa...
[and from another]
https://twitter.com/RanIsraeli/status/1423322271503028228
[and from another]
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/did-cdc-director-just-accidental...

SOZT
As has been abundantly clear from the start of the Covid-19 game, the stance of many of the players has not been to fight the virus but support other agendas. SARS and Ebola had threatened to ravage the globe but had been addressed calmly, with isolation and quarantines and the development of vaccines. Covid-19 resulted in hysteria, even though the facts supported the statement that it was just another flu – one which attacked oldsters with a long immune memory with a Cytokine storm while leaving youngsters almost totally unaffected. But the true death rate was only slightly higher than the annual flu.

Why was Covid-19 treated differently, with lockdowns and travel restrictions that tended to make everyone a prisoner in their own home? The presence of Nibiru in the inner Solar System was due to become apparent to the populace, with Heads of State warned that by January 2021 it would be “undeniable”. This is certainly true, as the Daily Earth Wobble and flaming Petrol bubbles and Red Dust are undeniable now. The establishment fears demands for the truth, as they will have to admit they knew, but lied to the public. They fear riots and retaliation from the taxpayers.

Covid-19 as all flu virus has mutated, but the Delta variant which emerged in India was deliberately engineered and released in India to prevent citizens of India from emigrating. The number of mutations that continually emerge is due in part to the lockdowns, which prevent herd immunity from being established. Covid-19 lives on, thus. The mRNA vaccines also allow Antibody Dependent Enhancement

http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue767.htm
by failing to kill 100% of the virus, so a crippled version of Covid-19 survives as a mutant.

That lockdowns and the mRNA vaccines create mutations has only encouraged these means of keeping the public locked in their homes, a type of Martial Law on the cheap. Those in the establishment who hoped to keep the public unaware of Nibiru’s approach until the very Last Weeks now see that they will be faced with an angry public, and their ability to lead not only diminished but eliminated. They cannot be trusted to lead. In these situations, the more frightened the guilty leadership becomes, the more harsh and abusive their treatment of the truthers becomes. Eventually, this can lead to revolution, unless the leadership begins telling the truth.
EOZT

[Kris H]

Hi Nancy,

What is being planned for the US military, now that they are pulling out of Afghanistan and Iraq? We know they won't be sitting idle, doing nothing. Are they gearing up to lend aid when the New Madrid rips, or some other action?

Thanks,

Kris H

[Nancy Lieder]

I can't speak for them but it is my impression that they are preparing for the New Madrid rupture and Pole Shift to come by bringing the troops home from overseas. This has been a long standing prediction by the Zetas, the troops needed at home. I note that some of the 5 fronts I laid out in my Newsletter on Silent Victories have been accomplised - Antifa riots (Defund the Police etc), CCP invasion, and presumably the Moloch Satan worshiping crowd at least pushed back. But the Junta is hesitant to move forward on reinstating Trump, fearing riots akin to Civil War. We addressed this recently when we discussed Mike Lindell's speculation that Trump would return on August 13. The Zetas predicted some months ago that when the New Madrid rips at the end of 2021 or early 2022, that Martial Law will be established and the Junta will casually mention during their broadcasts that President Trump is and always was the President, and no one will care. Very busy times ahead. 

http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31oc2019.htm

President Trump is pulling the US troops scattered around the world back home, anticipating the New Madrid adjustment and the domino effect that will run up along the San Andreas. As we stated early in the ZetaTalk saga, the troops will be needed back home. The mission in Iraq, to defeat ISIS, was accomplished.

http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue270.htm in 2003

The war games discussed during the NATO exercises included disasters equivalent to those we have predicted for the pole shift, immense devastation sparing none. In the event that such a scenario ensues, increasing volcanic eruption, quake torn roads and crumbling cities, mass populations homeless and roving the countryside, how should treaties installing the US Military in bases around the world be viewed? In the event of such earth changes, troops would be brought home, under stealth and with little fanfare, to the respective homelands, leaving at most a skeleton crew at the bases.

Kris H said:

What is being planned for the US military, now that they are pulling out of Afghanistan and Iraq?

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted from the GLP forum: 

The White House will not require their federal staff to be vaccinated. The CDC, NIH and FDA will not require their agency staff or federal employees to be vaccinated. However, the White House, NIH, FDA and the CDC support the forced vaccination of U.S. military service-members. Anyone else find that odd?
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Pentagon to Require COVID-19 Vaccine for All Troops by Sept. 15
August 9, 2021
https://www.oann.com/pentagon-to-require-covid-19-vaccine-for-all-t...
The Pentagon announced requirements for all members of the military to get the COVID-19 vaccine by September 15. In a memo sent to Department of Defense employees, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said he would seek Joe Biden’s approval to mandate vaccines for all active duty troops. Austin added he would not hesitate to move up the deadline in infections continued to rise. He added if the FDA gave final approval of the vaccines earlier than expected, the deadline could also be pushed to an earlier date.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd_Austin
Lloyd James Austin III (born August 8, 1953) is an American retired United States Army four-star general serving as the 28th United States secretary of defense since January 22, 2021. On December 7, 2020, he was nominated for defense secretary by then-President-elect Joe Biden.
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Defense Secretary to Mandate COVID Vaccine for US Military by Sept 15
August 9, 2021
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pentagon-covid-vaccine-mandate
All military troops will have until Sept. 15 to get vaccinated, according to a memo sent by Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin to all Department of Defense employees.  The Pfizer vaccine is expected to be approved by the Food and Drug Administration in early September. Should that not happen, Austin could seek a presidential waiver to require troops to get the vaccine. President Biden endorsed the idea of a vaccine mandate in a statement.

SOZT
The gambit to force the US Military to take an experimental vaccine is not what it seems on the surface. The mRNA is so fraught with problems it will not get approved by the FDA, even in a Biden Administration, and the only vaccine that could be considered safe is Russia’s Sputnik. Even though the current Secretary of Defense is a Biden appointee, Biden is a White Hat Double
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue727.htm
under the control of the Junta, and the Joint Chiefs
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue762.htm
is no longer headed by General Mark Milley, who was a Biden fan.

So who is calling the shots and what is this gambit about? We called the Mike Lindell claim that President Trump would return by August 13
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31jy2021.htm
to be a test. If the public reacted favorably, without civil war rumblings, then the US Military might move forward. What would be the excuse, or trigger, for such an announcement by the Junta? Statistically, there are more deaths among young healthy adults from the vaccines than from Covid-19 itself, so putting the US Military at risk is unwise. This fracas is to give the Junta an excuse for making the announcement that President Trump won the 2020 election and thus any steps the Biden Administration takes are illegal.
EOZT

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31ma2021.htm
These rumors arise because the Junta is preparing to overturn the 2020 election, announcing to the world that they had proof of election fraud in hand since the election occurred on November 3, 2020. As is patently clear, the US Military has never acknowledged a Biden Presidency, and with the use of Doubles a Biden Presidency has just been a well-orchestrated movie. President Trump never left office because the Insurrection Act was invoked on January 11, 2021 – ahead of any swearing in of Biden. Congress is not in session or in power under Martial Law, thus the inauguration was invalid.

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31jy2021.htm
These rumors of President Trump’s reinstatement on August 13 are a test to see how the public reacts. Mike Lindell is a respected self-made businessman, and thus his prediction is taken seriously. This is being watched, with portions of the public reacting in riots, an essential civil war, or just reacting in lively discussion and debate. The EAS test on August 11 is to bolster Lindell’s prediction, with the implication that President Trump or the Junta would use the EAS to make their announcement.