ZetaTalk Chat for April 30, 2019

[Nancy Lieder]

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Zeta Rules that Apply

1. No personal counseling is done.This rule has been in place since 1996. Questions should be of broad interest to the general public.
2. Correlation or resolution of ZetaTalk with the work of other channels or authors is not done unless they predict and have a prediction accuracy track record, as otherwise they are not a peer of ZetaTalk which does so. This rule has been in place since 2002. Just because another website or author makes a statement does not make that statement true, nor will the Zetas explain to you why their statements are not true, as then they are taking time out to address the issue.
3. The Zetas, as all visitors, are under rules on how they interact with humanity. They are not here to rescue you. They cannot divert Planet X just as today they do not prevent droughts or floods. The Earth is mankind’s schoolhouse whereby he learns to help his fellow man.
4. The date of the pole shift cannot be given, but the sequence of events can be given. [ Link ] Check the ning pinned discussions and blogs for such information as the 7 of 10, the last weeks, etc.

Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 70 [73] years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted

Juan F Martinez said:

After being against vaccines, Trump is now for vaccines! 

What has changed?  Has the Zeta advise regarding vaccines changed, too? Few people die from measles, meanwhile many have serious reactions and die from the measles vaccine.
[and from another]
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-urges-measles-vaccina...
President Trump on Friday urged parents to vaccinate their children in the midst of a measles outbreak, offering the advice despite voicing repeated concerns in the past that child vaccinations can lead to autism — a view rejected by government scientists. “They have to get the shots. The vaccinations are so important. This is really going around now. They have to get their shots,” Trump told reporters at the White House as he prepared to travel to Indianapolis to address a gathering of the National Rifle Association. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced this week that measles cases have reached a record high in the United States this year since the disease was declared eliminated in 2000.
[and from another]
https://www.precisionvaccinations.com/international-travelers-bring...
September 25th, 2018 – The Pan American Health Organization (PAHO) said on September 21, 2018, that 6,629 measles cases, including 72 deaths, from 11 countries have been reported in North, Central, and South America. The vast majority of these measles cases are from Venezuela, which reported 4,605 cases, and 62 deaths.
[and from another]
https://www.nvic.org/vaccines-and-diseases/measles/measles-vaccine-...
As of November 30, 2018, there have been more than 93,179 reports of measles vaccine reactions, hospitalizations, injuries and deaths following measles vaccinations made to the federal Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System. One example of an MMR vaccine injury claim on February 13, 2013. The fever persisted for several days and was followed by a severe seizure resulting in cardiac and respiratory arrest. The cardiac arrest and seizures caused O.R. to develop encephalopathy, kidney failure, severe brain injury, low muscle tone and cortical vision impairment. 
[and from another]
https://www.nvic.org/vaccines-and-diseases/measles/measles-quick-fa...
[and from another]
https://physiciansforinformedconsent.org/measles/vrs/
[and from another]
https://www.thedailybeast.com/what-could-trump-really-do-to-vaccines
[and from another]
http://www.healing-arts.org/children/autism-overview.htm#Autoimmune
Immunological testing of autistic children has shown certain features that are also found in patients with autoimmune diseases such as systemic lupus erythematosus, thyroid disease, ankylosing spondylitis, rheumatoid arthritis, insulin-dependent diabetes, and multiple sclerosis. Maternal antibodies in autism were detected

SOZT
Are the measles vaccines safe? As safe as any vaccine, and they should absolutely be taken to safeguard not only the vaccinated but to halt the spread of epidemics. Measles can be deadly or leave the victim devastated. The Anti-Vax movement is strong because of the association of autism with childhood vaccination. Autism is on the rise for many reasons,
http://www.zetatalk.com/beinghum/b90.htm
primarily due to the tension and anxiety mothers and young feel due to the Earth changes. Nibiru is denied, so there can be no action plan for what the mother and child feel is pending doom. Thus the tension.

Most adverse vaccine reactions are due to the development of autoimmune responses. Maternal antibodies to fetal brain cells have been noted in the mother in autism cases, where both mother and child attack the child’s brain due to an overactive immune response. Autoimmune devastation was noted during the swine flu vaccine in 1976,
https://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/vaccination/factsheet_gbs.htm
which was so connected to the incidence of Guillain Barre that the vaccination program was stopped. As President Trump noted, there is safety in avoiding an onslaught of vaccines, which are better administered in smaller doses.

When the Bush administration was in charge, in 2004, we warned of plans by the establishment to poison unwanted elements in the population via vaccines.
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta164.htm
This was related to our false warning that the Pole Shift would occur shortly after May 15, 2003 which was a White Lie to exposed the Bush administration plans. Since that time there have been NO PLANS by any establishment to poison the population via vaccines. Those advising avoidance of all vaccines should look to the past, when dread diseases swept through the populace. Choose wisely.
EOZT

Prior 2004 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta164.htm
How to eliminate the aged, the sick, and those too young to be put to work as child labor? How is it that an entire production of flu vaccine would be polluted, in a manner that failed notice up until the end? Are there not quality control checks? Should the establishment find the pole shift precursors upon them, the world twirling and standing on its head, so that steps to reduce the populace can be initiated with confidence no backlash would occur, vaccinations are a route open to be used. We would suggest that should such Earth changes commence, the last thing the population will be concerned about is the flu. 

Prior 2002 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/beinghum/b90.htm
That auto-immune factors have been found in some mothers, where their bodies are attacking the fetus brain, is not surprising, as in autism cases the mothers are often tense, under stress, the setting that causes childhood schizophrenia in the first place. Auto-immune disease is due to a heightened immune system. The mother is reacting to what her body might consider a foreign substance from the fetus is not surprising. This reaction in the mother can also teach the fetus to react in a similar fashion. 

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email: 

Can the Zetas comment on this exercise by NASA and FEMA? Are they preparing for Nibiru?
[and from another]
https://anith.com/nasa-and-fema-are-contingency-planning-for-a-pote...
NASA and FEMA are contingency planning for a potential asteroid armageddon
April 24, 2019
Alongside international partners like the European Space Agency’s Space Situational Awareness-NEO Segment and the International Asteroid Warning Network (IAWN), NASA’s Planetary Defense Coordination Office will participate in a “tabletop exercise” that will simulate a scenario for how to respond to an asteroid on an impact trajectory with the Earth.
[and from another]
https://www.yahoo.com/news/nasa-respond-asteroid-impacting-earth-17...
This is how NASA would respond to an asteroid impacting Earth
April 27, 2019
In the exercise, NASA and its partners have to respond to a "realistic — but fictional — scenario" involving a NEO named "2019 PDC," which has a 1 in 100 chance of impacting Earth in 2027.

SOZT
The establishment is increasingly admitting that Nibiru exists, not by an open acknowledgement but by the steps they are taking to guard against the onslaught. Recently President Trump issued an Executive Order to take steps to protect the US infrastructure against EMP. Efforts to deflect the debris in the tail of Nibiru have also become apparent, starting in 2009 when Russia led
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue167.htm
the effort to 2013 after Chelyabinsk
http://zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue330.htm
when Near Earth Asteroids were in the news to 2018 when NASA opened a Planetary Defense Coordination Office
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31oc2018.htm
to 2019 when a bolide snuck up on the watchdogs to explode over the Bering Straits.
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue652.htm

These recent formal exercises are an admission that the onslaught of debris, always described as asteroids, has increased of late. Why just recently? If asteroids slinging past Earth were an issue in the past, they would have been under discussion for centuries. We stated at the start of the ZetaTalk saga
http://zetatalk.com/science/s74.htm
that mankind cannot deflect this debris in space, as it will just move to the side and then proceed on toward Earth. Nor will attempting to nuke debris work, as this likewise just shifts to the side and proceeds on. The Russian approach at Chelyabinsk, where the debris was vaporized by a missile, is the best approach.
EOZT

Prior 1996 ZT: http://zetatalk.com/science/s74.htm
Does mankind now have the means to deflect such large, rapidly moving objects? Such a deflection would require a precisely placed explosive device of sufficient strength to vaporize the asteroid. Disintegration would be required because deflection is not possible in space. A nuclear explosion set off on the surface of an object in space would have minimal effect, as the explosion can expand in all directions at once. Nuclear explosions on the Earth's surface are an irresistible force meeting an immovable object - the Earth! Where the explosion can expand up or outward into the atmosphere there is only air turbulence. The portion of the explosion that is on the land side, or in the case of an underground explosion is encapsulated, is between a rock and a hot expanding place. The explosion is forced into the rock strata by the continuously expanding center of the explosion. Solid rock vaporized by nuclear explosions on the Earth's surface does not equate to the damage that would be done by one or even many nuclear devices on the surface of an asteroid. All parts of the explosion move rapidly out into space, and thus the asteroid is safely away before the nuke really gets going. A firecracker. A gnat. A sneeze. And the asteroid proceeds on its way, having only momentarily stepped aside to avoid mankind's silly experiment.

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31oc2018.htm
That mankind has been concerned about deflecting the minor moons and debris in the tail of Nibiru during the passage is not news. This is an issue that came up during the sci.astro debates between the UK’s Space Guard and the Zetas in 2001. Except for the success at Chelyabinsk in 2013, where the Russians shot down an approaching bolide and neutralized it, there are no effective means of deflecting the potential bombardment. We have stated that the Council of Worlds will not allow an extinction level event to occur, as Earth is a spiritual schoolhouse that must be preserved. 

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31mr2019.htm
The alarm over this meteor explosion is due to the approach, and even the impact, not being noticed for weeks. Chelyabinsk was noticed and quickly disabled by alert Russians, who shot it down, shattering the Chelyabinsk bolide. President Trump has recently ushered in the new US Space Force, and with good reason. Where the official explanation included protecting satellites and US interests from space junk, the covert reason was to provide an early warning system for the approach of major debris in the wafting tail of Nibiru, and a space based way to shatter this debris. 

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email: 

New aspect?

SOZT
Alberto’s latest photos show that Nibiru has come closer to Earth, and simultaneously is somewhat obscuring the Sun! This of course happens during the Last Weeks, but that time has not yet arrived. Previously when Nibiru was seen at the right of the Sun, the Earth was squeezed to the left, trying to evade Nibiru. But this new posture allows the Earth to ride in the pincers of particle flows from the Sun coming around Nibiru where there is less buffeting from the eddy flows. An eddy flow has a calm in the center, and this is where the Earth now rides.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

As is our usual practice, we are closing this April Q&A and switching over to May. Please post your new questions on the chat for May. Thank you.

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