ZetaTalk Chat for April 30, 2023

[Nancy Lieder]

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3. The Zetas, as all visitors, are under rules on how they interact with humanity. They are not here to rescue you. They cannot divert Planet X just as today they do not prevent droughts or floods. The Earth is mankind’s schoolhouse whereby he learns to help his fellow man.
4. The date of the pole shift cannot be given, but the sequence of events can be given. [ Link ] Check the ning pinned discussions and blogs for such information as the 7 of 10, the last weeks, etc.

Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 78 years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

[Nancy Lieder]

Is lightning on the increase?
[and from another]
Tormenta electrica sobre el One World Trade Center #NYC
https://t.me/ZetaTalk_Followers/29223
[and from another]
Global Warming could Lead to Increase in 'Hot Lightning' Strikes causing more Wildfires
March 1, 2023
https://phys.org/news/2023-03-global-hot-lightning-wildfires.html
A combined team of Earth scientists from multiple institutions has found evidence that suggests that in the coming years, a warming planet could lead to more "hot lightning" strikes that could cause more wildfires in many parts of the world. Computer simulations showed higher frequency as the atmosphere warms.
[and from another]
Climate Change Strikes: Lightning Patterns Change with Global Warming
November 11, 2022
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/11/221111103021.htm
New research has shown climate change could alter lightning patterns across Europe. This could lead to more lightning over mountains and in Northern Europe and less lightning over central Europe.
[and from another]
Huge Record-Breaking Lightning Bolt Spans 3 U.S. States
February 1, 2022
https://mashable.com/article/worlds-longest-lightning-bolt
The longest single flash of lightning has been captured by satellites of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

SOZT
We have repeatedly warned that as the charged tail of Nibiru sweeps the Earth, coming ever closer, that EMP and associated lightning storms
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/21ma2011.htm
will be on the increase.
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue242.htm
Plate movement is also on the increase due to the Daily Earth Wobble caused by Nibiru's approach. Thus electronic screech
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/10ja2015.htm
from rock compressed so that electron particles can flow freely through the rock will also be on the increase. Arcing between the screeching rock and the charged tail of Nibiru of course will follow.

Just as AF447
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue136.htm
had complete electronic failure in 2009, dropping into the Atlantic as the plane passed over the Mid-Atlantic Rift, and MH370
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue390.htm

disappeared from radar in 2014, in like manner a 3-state lightning bolt crossed the Gulf in 2022 due to the N American Portions pulling apart. New York City is showing signs of ripping apart as the SE Portion is tugged to the East during the New Madrid Adjustment. This is where the Ramapo and East Coast Fault Lines join.
EOZT

Prior 1995 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p38.htm
What allows lightning to find its path? It is using a little understood path formed by sub-atomic particles, electrical waves of a sort, that have not been measured yet by Earth's human scientists. These emanate from any highly electrified field, and when they touch the arc is now possible. Because the Earth's upper atmosphere will be in motion, bombarded by the comet's tail, static electricity accumulates. The static electricity passes from the Earth to her brother, and causes fantastic lightning displays in his upper atmosphere.

Prior 1/10/2015 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/10ja2015.htm
We have consistently warned that electro-magnetic pulse, the arcing from the electronic screech in compressed rock to the charged tail of Planet X, will be on the increase.

Prior 5/21/2011 ZT:  http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/21ma2011.htm
A massive number of lightning strikes, in the hundreds, were recorded during the hour. What caused such a lightning storm, which occurred without rain? Electrical discharge from the highly compressed rock. Will such lightning storms be on the increase as the N American continent is bowed in the extreme, prior to the New Madrid adjustment? You can count on it!

[Nancy Lieder]

Are they are trying to get sneaky to kill us all! Am I overexaggerating this threat, or will this new method of management delivery clog us up in the same way as if we had the shot?
[and from another]
mRNA Going into Cows and Pigs
April 1, 2023
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/p...
The food supply of every American is going to start being INTENTIONALLY POISONED with mRNA genetic modifications being fraudulently called "vaccines." Lobbyists for the cattleman and pork associations in several states have CONFIRMED they WILL be using mRNA vaccines in pigs and cows THIS MONTH. It will actually become "vaccine food" and sold to YOU without your INFORMED CONSENT. there is an article from the year 2000 about "edible vaccines". The article demonstrates how hiding a "vaccine" in foods, is absorbed into the body: The trouble with this particular circumstance is that, to this day, no manufacturer of an mRNA vaccine, has fully disclosed the medically-active contents of the so-called "COVID "vaccines." 
[and from another]
https://research.mcdb.ucla.edu/Goldberg/HC70A_W06/pdf/EdibleVaccine...
[and from another]
Tissue Distribution of a Peptide Transporter mRNA in Sheep, Dairy Cows, Pigs, and Chickens
May 1, 1999
https://academic.oup.com/jas/article-abstract/77/5/1277/4625493
In sheep (n = 5) and lactating Holstein cows (n = 3), hybridization was observed with mRNA from the omasum, rumen, duodenum, jejunum, and ileum. No hybridization was observed with mRNA from the abomasum, cecum, colon, liver, kidney, and semitendinosus and longissimus muscles of either species or the mammary gland of the dairy cows. In pigs there was no hybridization with mRNA from the stomach, large intestine, liver, kidney, and semitendinosus and longissimus muscles.  In White Leghorns (n = 15) and broilers (n = 20), the strongest hybridization was found in the duodenum, but the jejunum and ileum showed faint bands. Other tissues, including the crop, proventriculus, gizzard, ceca, liver, kidney, and muscles showed no hybridization to the probe. 
[and from another]
MRNA Vaccines Going into Cows and Pigs This Month
April 3, 2023
https://dainikbidyaloy.com/2023/04/03/mrna-vaccines-going-into-cows...
Lobbyists for the cattleman and pork associations in several states have CONFIRMED they WILL be using mRNA vaccines in pigs and cows THIS MONTH. It will actually become  vaccine food  and sold to YOU without your INFORMED CONSENT.
[and from another]
mRNA Vaccine Cannot Transfer through Meat Consumption
January 26, 2023
https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.337U7PW
In livestock, there are no mRNA vaccines that are used in the United States.
The Center for Veterinary Biologics at the US Department of Agriculture's Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service Center told AFP that, as of January 2023, it did "not have any vaccines approved or under trial to vaccinate livestock for Covid-19." There is a bit more potential transfer of disease between humans and chickens or pigs as they are more similar to us. A good example would be avian or swine flu. There are vaccines used in livestock for these diseases but none in commercial use are mRNA-based. There is no scientific basis for the claim that if someone was to consume meat or other tissues from an animal that had been vaccinated with an mRNA vaccine, it would enter their body. The digestive tract is designed to break down the large molecules in our food - including DNA, proteins and carbohydrates - so we can absorb them.

SOZT
If sheep, pigs, chickens and cows are injected with an mRNA vaccine or fed this as in ingredient in food will this mRNA spike protein transfer to the parts of these animals to be consumed by humans? Yes. A 1999 study showed that even when consumed as food by the livestock, its stomach (peptide) process did not prevent the spread of the mRNA spike proteins, (hybridization). Despite the horror stories from the Covid-19 mRNA vax, where immune systems in humans have plunged and lovers are afraid to hug due to the possible transmission of spike proteins, the pharma industry wants their profits.

This trend to use the mRNA methodology in livestock should be aggressively countered. We have suggested that suburban or even urban families keep chicken flocks, which can eat kitchen scraps and free range for insects. Goats likewise can browse on weeds and bushes and give clean milk and meat. This maneuver by the pharma industry should be a wakeup call to those who would be self-sufficient survivors. The time for action is now!
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

I have a question if you don't mind. I have the diagram map of US , Atlantic and Africa saved. The one with the arrows and number sequence on it. Up to 8. There's no mention of China or Sunda plate. Why is this important now? I was under the impression that once the turkey rock hook snapped which allows Africa to drop and also the bridge above the town of New Madrid snapped then things would go from there. Azores as well. Now we're told that a big quake needs to happen in China and the Sunda plate to snap? I'm not being argumentative but I'm finding this more and more confusing.
[and from another]
https://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/new-madrid-jolt-timeline
[and from another]
http://zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue840.htm 
Dramatic UFO displays were seen and recorded on video in Japan, Beijing, and Taiwan.
[and from another]
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue850.htm

SOZT
The problem with ZetaTalk readership expectations on the New Madrid process is the exact definition of what 'it' is. In the early days we described the New Madrid Fault Line rupture as breaking bridges up along the Mississippi River and collapsing structures along the Fault Line, with a void in the Atlantic at the Azores causing a massive tsunami rolling up against European shores. This is a process, with innumerable steps in the timeline. When the Hard Rock Hotel collapsed in New Orleans on October 27, 2019
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue741.htm
we stated that was the start of the process, and explained why there had been delays.

In trying to give Obama time to announce the presence of Nibiru, the Council of Worlds had installed humming boxes and monoliths to delay Plate Movements. These delays impacted schedules and timelines elsewhere in the Universe and consequently the Council of Worlds is now under great pressure to catch up and has instituted a Severe Wobble
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/30no2021.htm
to do so. The New Madrid process is of intense interest to those in America and Europe, and because it includes the Africa Roll, to those in the Middle East too.

We are under restrictions not to give dates, but rather a sequence of events. But this does not stop mankind from seeing a date in our every statement. After the Hard Rock Hotel collapsed, all eyes were on the Mississippi Bridges and indeed on May 12, 2021
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue765.htm
the Memphis bridge had a snap. To focus on the bigger picture we switched to pointing to the Rock Hook under Turkey,
http://zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue836.htm
as until that snapped the Africa Roll would not proceed and the roll was intrinsic to the process.

When the Rock Hook snapped on December 13, 2022
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue848.htm
turmoil in the Middle East did indeed ensue, with Suez Canal traffic having to be closed on a daily basis and the long-predicted Turkey quakes
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue856.htm
creating devastation. Once again mankind, anxious for a date, needed a focus. While the Fault Line in the US was steadily separating, there was no specific focus. But the pending China quake
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31mr2023.htm
began a dramatic appearance, and by prior UFO displays in November, 2022 were confirmed by ourselves. This pending quake
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue832.htm
will allow room for the SE Portion hook at the isthmus to release, thus speeding the process to a Finale.
EOZT

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31mr2023.htm
The Sunda Plate is breaking from the Eurasian Plate with this snap destabilizing the central China Wudu-Mabian fault line and reaching up along this fault line to the Yanshan Mountains seismic zone which touches Beijing. This portends the explosion we referred to during our UFO analysis last November. If the Sunda Plate was to break from the Eurasian Plate, this would free China to jump to the East into the Pacific. This would indeed push and twist Taiwan in a counterclockwise manner. By compressing the Northern Pacific the bulbous top of S America would temporarily shift into the widening Atlantic, giving the SE Portion of N America room to drop so its hook-like connection to the Isthmus is freed. This thus would be the trigger for the New Madrid timeline to complete.

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31de2022.htm
In March of 2022 we detailed a role the Rock Bridge above the little town of New Madrid - located at the juncture of the Ohio and Mississippi Rivers - would play. We stated that a JOLT there would expedite the final rupture and clarified that this Rock Bridge break would release the SE Portion from its attachment to the Mainland Portion, allowing it to  jump to the East, destabilizing the Azores triple juncture of plates in the Atlantic. In April of 2022 we reiterated that the JOLT in the Rock Bridge will signal the start of the Finale. In May of 2022 we introduced the Rock Hook under Turkey and defined its role. Africa must roll for the Azores to be torn open, and the Rock Hook under Turkey is preventing this roll. The African Roll pulls on the SE Portion which is attached along their shared border in the Atlantic. This transfers to a tug on the Rock Bridge which ultimately snaps and sets the Finale in motion. Intrinsic to this is the S Atlantic void allowing Africa to slide its foot into the void and drop its NE corner so the roll can happen.

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31de2022.htm
SO2 accompanies breaking rock because it is a component of Methane, which is released when rock layers are torn apart. Thus the snap line we indicated - from the Dodecanese Islands to the Suez Canal - had been consistently red in early December. The snap line has suddenly turned pale on December 13 because the rock there fractured, breaking off the hard rock hook. This will allow the NE corner of Africa to drop freely now. As we predicted, the New Madrid Finale is in process, though it will take weeks to complete.

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31ja2023.htm
Examine our words. We do not state that the Finale would occur promptly after the Rock Hook under Turkey snapped. We do not state that the Finale would occur because the NE corner of the African Plate is scraping down past the Red Sea. We did not put the word Finale into any context except that it would follow the unzipping of the New Madrid Fault Line up along the Mississippi River and the JOLT when the Rock Bridge snapped.

[Gerard Zwaan]

Since the Zetas mentioned that the Council has scheduled a severe wobble also to increase the visibility of Nibiru and also hinted towards this in this the ZetaTalk about the masonic crop circle "Thus this design is relaying to mankind that the globe may lie on its side, with the N Pole pointing to the East or West or places in between."  https://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/masonic-crop-circle.  Then here they also mention "Visibility of the Nibiru Complex will be increased, in a manner we will not yet divulge." and also about the wobble.  Since we will have the China quake, part of the African roll still not completed (the Zetas did mention about Istanbul " When the 7 of 10 scenario for Africa occurs, dropping Africa and widening the Red Sea, the isthmus holding Istanbul will tear, dropping the city into rubble.', it feels to me that in order for this to happen the wobble will get even more severe then it's now, and it feels like this severe wobble and the completion of the 7 of 10 (China, Turkey, New Madrid) will be paired up(in conjunction) with each other.  (very severe wobble Nibiru visible). Coul the Zetas say  something about this?

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted. Gerard has explained to me that this Q is about the Severe Wobble and where it fits in the timeline. 

Gerard Zwaan said:

Since the Zetas mentioned that the Council has scheduled a severe wobble also to increase the visibility of Nibiru and also hinted towards this in this the ZetaTalk about the masonic crop circle "Thus this design is relaying to mankind that the globe may lie on its side, with the N Pole pointing to the East or West or places in between." 

Then here they also mention "Visibility of the Nibiru Complex will be increased, in a manner we will not yet divulge." and also about the wobble.  Since we will have the China quake, part of the African roll still not completed (the Zetas did mention about Istanbul " When the 7 of 10 scenario for Africa occurs, dropping Africa and widening the Red Sea, the isthmus holding Istanbul will tear, dropping the city into rubble.', it feels to me that in order for this to happen the wobble will get even more severe then it is at the current then it's now and it feels like this severe wobble and the completion of the 7 of 10 (China, Turkey, New Madrid) will be paired up (in conjunction) with each other. (very severe wobble Nibiru visible). Could the Zetas say something about this?
[and from another]
https://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/severe-wobble-scheduled
[and from another]
https://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/masonic-crop-circle
[and from another]
https://biblehub.com/isaiah/24-20.htm
God's Judgment on the Earth
19: The earth is utterly broken apart, the earth is split open, the earth is shaken violently. 20: The earth staggers like a drunkard and sways like a shack. Earth's rebellion weighs it down, and it falls, never to rise again. 21: In that day the LORD will punish the host of heaven above and the kings of the earth below.

31jy160.jpg

SOZT
As we mentioned the Severe Wobble will be a trigger to incite the Plate Movements necessary for the New Madrid event to occur. The New Madrid event is dependent upon prior Plate Movements, and as we have detailed this includes the Sunda Platelet snapping off to become an independent plate, which allows China to lurch into the Pacific, which thus compresses the Pacific top to bottom so that the toe of S America has room to pull into the Pacific, which tilts the S American Continent so the bulbous top part along with the Caribbean lob into the Atlantic, which releases the toe of the SE Portion so it can lurch East.

This entire sequence of events does NOT happen in a day and may involve iterative action at all stages. The Sunda Plate is outlined in quakes and SO2 hot with rock stress but China has not yet had any quakes as a result. China has been so SO2 hot that its roads have been melting. We have described the China quake as an 'implosion', a large quake with extensive damage to China's interior. This step in the timeline will not be missed, but the resulting compression of the S Pacific involves action on the 4 Pacific Plates, so is unlikely to complete all at once.

The tilting of S America will also allow the foot of Africa to slide into the S Atlantic - expediting the Africa Roll. This combined with the SE Portion finding its toe at the Isthmus to be freed will speed the process. Many days may pass while the point of maximum pressure on the Bridge holding the N American Portions together is reached. This will be the last block needing to give, and when it does, as we have repeatedly stated, the Azores will  'instantly' rip open to cause a tsunami racing toward Europe.
EOZT

Prior June 30, 2021 ZT: https://www.zetatalk.com/ning/30ju2021.htm
The Council of Worlds has approved increasingly severe wobble, to increase gradually so as not to panic the people. This wobble will proceed to the extent that the Sun may rise in the North, or the globe turn upside down temporarily, with rotation seeming to move from East to West during that time. Meanwhile, those media outlets suppressing the truth and spewing lies, such as CNN and MSNBC, will be silenced. They will have no voice. Nibiru visibility is already present but will be increased during this time.

Prior November 26, 2021 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/30no2021.htm
We have mentioned that the Council of Worlds plans to allow a Severe Wobble on Earth to force the establishment to admit the reality of Nibiru. In that such a temporary Severe Wobble would have to merge in with the Daily Earth Wobble, it is a tricky affair for the benign aliens arranging to fulfill the Council's edict. What this change does is ease the Daily Earth Wobble temporarily, while giving benign aliens the tools they need to effect a Severe Wobble. By suddenly allowing the magnetic flow surrounding Nibiru to change, allowing Nibiru's N Pole to drop and point again at the Earth, a mega wobble would be effected. This would be noticed by everyone on Earth, and the establishment would be scrambling to explain it. This temporarily Severe Wobble would be accompanied by dramatic visibility of Nibiru, so that the usual excuses from NASA that the wobble was somehow from the Sun would not suffice.

Prior July 31, 2022 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31jy2022.htm
This Crop Circle design seems to include the Masonic Square and Compass or perhaps the Space Force symbol. But neither of these symbols contain the 180 degree swath overhead. In that a Severe Wobble is in process, and 180 degree swings can occur during a Severe Wobble, what is being implied? The Masonic design implies a top and bottom, which can relate to the North and South poles. Thus this design is relaying to mankind that the globe may lie on its side, with the N Pole pointing to the East or West or places in between. Masonic symbolism is being used to grab attention and encourage discussion. The wobble will be getting worse.

[Tracie Crespo]

https://www.facebook.com/1031140683/videos/945864813522413/

Would the Zeta's care to comment on this?  Trump talking about Aliens & the most visited site in the world??  Seems like a nice potential plug for Zeta Talk. 

[Tracie Crespo]

Would the Zeta's care to give us an update on the next "Elon" / Space X explosion?

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/spacex-powerful-starship...

https://youtu.be/THkSvpyoJ20

[Nancy Lieder]

Was the crash of Elon's latest, and largest-ever rocketship due to an admonition from the Council of Worlds? If so, what did he or the white hats running him put aboard the craft that found their displeasure?
[and from another]
SpaceX's Largest Rocket ever Built Explodes four Minutes after Launch
April 20, 2023
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/space/spacexs-largest-roc...
SpaceX's Starship, the largest rocket ever launched, exploded four minutes after takeoff. SpaceX described the event as a "rapid unscheduled disassembly before stage separation" on Twitter as the launch and short flight played out. SpaceX CEO Elon Musk appeared optimistic about the test launch, framing it as a learning experience.
[and from another]
Elon Musk's Starship Explodes Minutes after First Test Flight's Liftoff
April 21, 2023
https://www.oann.com/business/elon-musks-starship-explodes/
SpaceX's next-generation Starship spacecraft exploded minutes after liftoff in an uncrewed test flight from South Texas, cutting short a key step in Elon Musk's development of a rocket vessel to eventually take humans to the moon and Mars. While SpaceX officials were heartened by the outcome, the mission fell short of reaching several objectives. The plan was for Starship to soar into space at least 90 some miles (150 km) above Earth before it would re-enter the atmosphere and plunge into the Pacific near Hawaii.
[and from another]
2013 Escape to Mars
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue337.htm
[and from another]
2016 Musk Lust
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue532.htm

SOZT
From the start of the ZetaTalk saga we have consistently warned
http://www.zetatalk.com/govmt/g101.htm
that the elite on Earth would not be allowed to escape to the Moon or Mars to avoid the pending passage of Nibiru. We also stated at the start of the ZetaTalk saga that the Council of Worlds would block such attempts by technological failures.
http://www.zetatalk.com/govmt/g81.htm
When Musk touted his plans to colonize Mars in 2016
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue532.htm
we stated that this was just hucksterism, as Musk knew this would be the result. So what is Musk up to in this latest venture?

As we have reported, Musk plea bargained at Gitmo and thus provided his fortunes for a Twitter buyout. Given that the Junta is in control of Musk at present, and using Space X for trips to the ISS, why are they pushing Musk into what would be certain failure? The SpaceX Starship operation has been in process for some years, under the direction of General Milley, the soon to 'retire' head of the Joint Chiefs. Milley was not a fan of ZetaTalk, and in fact recently died while fuming over ZetaTalk accuracy, a victim of chronic high blood pressure. Scheduled to 'resign' this Fall, those working under Milley who wanted the Starship to succeed pushed forward with the mission, which is destined to fail.
EOZT

Prior 1/15/1996 ZT:
http://www.zetatalk.com/govmt/g101.htm
From its inception, NASA was attempting to secure, as much as anything, an escape from the forthcoming cataclysms. They still have that as a dominant agenda. The members of NASA and JPL who have been watching Planet X approach in accordance with our predictions some 50 years ago, have come to nervously accept that the reality of our exact predictions. They wish to find a safe haven during the shift itself. The thought of being on an Earth that will slip about with sloshing water and crashing plates is unsettling. They would like a vantage point on Mars, and from that when the rock and roll is over, they would settle down at the best looking agricultural setting in the world and walk off well prepared to take over as kings. This escape route would be for the elite of not only the US government and US military but other elites around the world. This is well disguised in talk about science research in the skies and exploring the universe, but this is all to camouflage the real plans which would be to take dozens and even hundreds of individuals away.

Prior 12/15/1996 ZT:
http://www.zetatalk.com/govmt/g81.htm
As mankind is scarcely able to live in space, and has not mastered maintaining mankind in this environment, there are many obstacles to getting to and living on Mars in the first place. Thus, we hardly have to step in, as they are failing already! But should they appear to be succeeding, technological failures will occur. The series of mishaps that occurred in 1996 and accompanied the rush to place man on Mars are not accidents, as those at NASA are aware.

[Nancy Lieder]

Can the Zetas tell us why Fox decided to part with Tucker Carlson? Is the cabal afraid that he might be a spokesperson for the truth when the Junta announced Martial Law?
[and from another]
I like Tucker Carlson why is he out at Fox News thanks
[and from another]
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/tucker-carlson-departs-fox-news...
[and from another]
Breaking: Tucker Carlson leaves Fox News as they 'Agree to Part Ways'
April 24, 2023
https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-ne...
Carlson's show was frequently the top-rated show on cable news, often surpassing 4.5 million viewers per episode.The show premiered in November 2016, and took over the coveted 8 pm EST time slot in 2017.The decision to part ways with Carlson comes less than a week after the broadcaster and Dominion Voting Systems reached a $787 million settlement. Carlson's show was not a main focus of Dominion's lawsuit. 
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Breaking: Don Lemon Terminated by CNN
April 24, 2023
https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-don-lemon-terminated-by-cnn?...
In Late February, Lemon said of presidential candidate Nikki Haley saying politicians over the age of 75 should undergo mental competency tests, "I think that I think it's the wrong road to go down, she says people you know politicians or something, are not in their prime. Nikki Haley isn't in her prime, sorry." Lemon went on to say women were in their prime "in their 20s and 30s and maybe 40s." Lemon was notably absent the day after the comments were made, but the absence was reportedly pre-planned for a weekend vacation. In September, Lemon was removed from his long-held primetime slot to the morning show. 
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Fox's Settlement with Dominion Unlikely to Cost it $787.5M
April 23, 2023
https://apnews.com/article/fox-dominion-lawsuit-settlement-election...
Fox Corp.'s $787.5 million settlement with Dominion Voting Systems over defamation charges'is eye-popping, but the ultimate cost to the media company is likely to be much lower. Fox settled with Dominion over charges that Fox News baselessly accused the company of rigging its voting machines against former President Donald Trump in 2020. It was the most-watched media libel case in decades.

SOZT
What is the nexus between two major networks (Fox and CNN) firing popular talking heads at the same time? If this were related to Fox losing a defamation lawsuit over Dominion's hand in the 2020 election fraud, then why would CNN react at the same time? The cause is not politics or settlement costs but how the US will adapt to widespread devastation during the coming Plate Movements and the resulting New Madrid Adjustment. The US has bragged about their freedoms but has not had to face widespread starvation or rioting, and the Junta fears being overstretched.

The collapse of the banking networks in the West is also a factor. To hide the bankruptcy, Digital currency and IDs will be issued while everyone pretends that the funds have valid backing. NATO has become a hollow puffery, unable to win in the Ukraine which will quietly go to Russia. India has a large, starving population but rioting is held in check by the prevailing religion - the fatalistic Hindus. China also has a large starving population, restrained only by their Communist consensus practices. They repress their media to control their restive population.

With the death of General Milley, who will be officially replaced as head of the Joint Chiefs this upcoming Fall, there has been more open discussion within the US Military. By following China's example regarding repression of the media, the citizens of the US can expect less controversy in the news, and more stability in politics such that an existing leader will be allowed in place even if incompetent or a Double. The US is already under Martial Law but will now be more open about it. The exploding crime rate will be controlled by brutal measures, with prison farms emerging.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

The Dark Twin is very bright, People are noticing and taking photos. Is it closer to us now?
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https://t.me/ZetaTalk_Followers/30294
April 25th , 2023-Idaho 9:20 due West. The brightest object in the sky. Here is the Earth's Dark Twin.
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https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=9107858499289204&set=a.403...
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Visible in 2004 http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta90.htm
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Monster Persona in 2010 http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta572.htm
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Trying to Pass in 2014 http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue417.htm
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Features Visible in 2017 http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue579.htm
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Distance in 2018 http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue610.htm
Kojima of the Pole Shift ning has computed the distance of the Dark Twin in these recent ISS image captures, as the Earth's size is known, the Dark Twin's size is known, the Moon's size is known, and the Moon's distance from the Earth is known. Using the curvature of the Earth in the images, Kojima computes the Dark Twin to be 12 Earth diameters distances away. That's close!
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Visible in 2021 http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue758.htm

SOZT
We have long described the Dark Twin's approach from the West, along the orbit shared with the Earth. When the Earth halted in her orbit in 2003, the Dark Twin became visible in the skies in 2004, seen as a blue/yellow orb.
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta90.htm
Due to the Repulsion Force it cannot pass
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue417.htm
the Earth, but it will eventually slip behind the Earth to move along in their shared orbit.

Meanwhile as it came closer to the Earth, it appeared in the Arctic skies as a Monster Persona,
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta572.htm
a distorted image which makes an object appear larger than it is in reality. In 2017 the Dark Twin was close enough for surface features
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue579.htm
to be discerned. In 2018 the distance between the Earth and the Dark Twin was computed to be only 12 Earth diameters distance from the ISS.
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue610.htm

Has it now come closer? Yes, closing the gap and fighting to pass the Earth. One can see from the sunlight reflected off the side of the Dark Twin and the detail from recent Monster Persona photos taken in the Arctic that it has closed the gap. Formerly the sunlight reflected from the entire Dark Twin orb but now the reflection shows that the Earth and Dark Twin are almost side by side. As with the presence of Nibiru, the Dark Twin will not be admitted by the establishment, leaving the common man to wonder.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

As is our usual practice we are closing this April chat and opening May. Please post your questions there. Thank you.

(https://poleshift.ning.com/forum/topics/zetatalk-chat-for-may-31-2023)