ZetaTalk Chat for September 30, 2022

[Nancy Lieder]

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Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 78 years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

[Nancy Lieder]

https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=10162417441943973
Wow, Africa Roll is heating the superheating the ground and starting fires over a wide swath of Southern Africa!  Nowhere is there a word that Africa and Madagascar are now almost solidly burning, judging by the look of NASA's FIRMS service map. Someone better try to check a map of carbon dioxide emissions or something, because it's too many fire sources per last 24 hours, there are literally thousands of them on this map.
[and from another]
NASA's FIRMS service map
https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/map/

SOZT
The sequence of events that would lead to the New Madrid finale are in process, and the S Atlantic is now spreading open, allowing the foot of Africa to shift over into the void being opened. This process has been documented on the quake maps by quakes along the Antarctic border while the Antarctic Plate pushes up into the S Atlantic. Until the rock hook under Turkey snaps off, allowing Africa to drop on its eastern side, the slide into the S Atlantic attempts to bend the south part of Africa. This can be seen from hot Earth, CO2 emissions, SO2 emissions, and the Zambia Heliplot.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

Speculation about September 24. What is this about?
[and from another]
September 24th Event Alert! Something Weird is Happening in Denver!
https://beforeitsnews.com/prophecy/2022/09/september-24th-alert-som...
Has the stage been set for some unknown disaster? At 2:52mins German Govt. Official says, on Sept 24, 2022 you will remember where you were for the rest of your life. At 3:50mins Denver office of emergency management is handing out emergency backpacks on Sept 24.
[and from another]
HEADS UP!! The Elites Are Planning Something Very Significant for September 24
September 12, 2022
https://www.econjobrumors.com/topic/the-elites-are-planning-somethi...
A German legislator remarked that this day will be so important that we will remember where we were on that day. The question is what are the elites planning for that day? A market craash? A nuc1ear exchange? We will soon find out.
[and from another]
Donald Trump flies into Washington, DC still wearing his GOLF SHOES and a polo top as unannounced visit sparks rumors of possible indictment by the Department of Justice
September 12, 2022
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11203717/Donald-Trump-flie...
The former president landed at Dulles International Airport dressed in his sports gear on Sunday night before being whisked away in a black SUV. His flight got in around 6pm before his motorcade left the airport around 30 minutes later

SOZT
Rumors about September 24 are all missing the mark. This is clearly not about the expected New Madrid rupture as these dates are not known by mankind. It is thus a known and planned date, with the establishment braced for riots. As we have confirmed, SCOTUS has reviewed the 2020 election theft and written a finding giving the election to President Trump. Prior to announcing this result to the world, President Trump would be sworn in as President by a member of SCOTUS. Thus the trip to DC, where SCOTUS has their offices.

As with the Roe vs Wade reversal, this is expected to incite riots and even civil war in the US. This announcement is likely to be in sync with Martial Law, with turmoil in Denver which is the new seat of government. Many Biden Administration appointees will be angry and cause a fuss. Germany has many US military bases and would likewise be affected, especially given the NATO and European Union support for the Satanists in Ukraine. Germany has already announced the start of their own Martial Law by October.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

Large Sinkhole Opens on Main Tel Aviv Highway
September 17, 2022
https://www.timesofisrael.com/large-sinkhole-opens-on-main-tel-aviv...
It was not known what had caused the sinkhole to open.

SOZT
In 2011 we described the African Roll during the 7 of 10 Plate Movements,
http://www.zetatalk.com/7of10/7of10-52.htm
causing the connections to the Sinai Peninsula on both sides to widen and making the Sinai a virtual island. We also stated that the African Plate roll
http://www.zetatalk.com/7of10/7of10-46.htm
will deepen the Mediterranean floor above Egypt, widen the Red Sea, and waggle the Saudi Plate during the roll. In 2021 we described the Sequence of Events
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31mr2021.htm
leading up to the New Madrid finale. The snapping of a rock hook under Turkey was a key part of this process and will not proceed without trauma for the region.

Not only will Sinai leave the African Plate, the trauma of the dropping Africa Plate will include lands with dual loyalties being subject to scraping along the Saudi Plate border with Syria and Israel.
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31ma2022.htm
Where the Suez Canal has to be dredged, the Gulf of Aqaba is deep, as the Africa Plate has frequently rolled in the past, causing this plate border to leave its mark. Now the Red Sea will likewise deepen. But as Africa is expected to participate in Continental Drift , the finale is not yet written for the Middle East. The crustal shift during the Pole Shift will create a holocaust amidst man’s oil wells in Iraq.
EOZT

Prior 1/1/2011 ZT:
http://www.zetatalk.com/7of10/7of10-52.htm
When the Africa Plate rolls to the east and drops, during the 7 of 10 scenarios, this will of course affect Egypt and its connection to the Sinai Peninsula. The Straits of Gibraltar will widen by 125 miles, as Africa drops, and Morocco will move 50 miles further east. Where the Sinai Peninsula is considered part of the African Plate, the Red Sea is clearly ripping open. Thus both the Red Sea at the Gulf of Suez and the Gulf of Aqaba tearing up into Jordan will rip open, leaving the Sinai Peninsula positioned like an island with few direct attachments.

Prior 3/31/2021 ZT: 
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31mr2021.htm
The African Plate has a notch at Syria which holds the African Plate in place. Thus to drop into the Indian Ocean, the African Plate must scrape past Syria and Israel, squeezing the Red Sea during this drop. Once past this squeeze, the African Plate will be free to pull apart the Mediterranean and many other dramas will emerge.

Prior 5/1/2022 ZT:
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31ma2022.htm
The African Plate will participate in the coming New Madrid Adjustment, doing so by a roll sufficient to tear open the Azores. This action precedes the final New Madrid rupture, and will occur when the rock hook near Turkey that is currently preventing the Africa Plate from dropping down on its eastern side snaps. This rock hook can clearly be seen in tectonic plate boundary maps, but what portion will stay with Africa and what portion become a platelet? All of the coastline of Turkey and the island of Cyprus will leave the Africa Plate during this snap, as will the Sinai Peninsula.

Prior 5/25/2022 ZT:
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31ma2022.htm
The dropping weight of the Africa Plate forces the rock hook that reaches under Turkey to snap off, and this allows the Africa Plate to slide down along the Dead Sea plate border. The effect of this Africa Roll will include disasters all along the Mediterranean and a rupture at the Azores, creating a weakness there that will allow the N American Continent to straighten out, correcting the bow that was imposed on its western side. This triggers the New Madrid finale. This domino effect of Plate Movement is in process, but at some point in the near future, within 2022, will create the New Madrid finale.

Prior 10/16/2010 ZT:
http://www.zetatalk.com/7of10/7of10-46.htm
The roll of the African Plate during the 7 of 10 scenarios thus spares all but the Mediterranean floor above Algeria! The roll will incite the Arabian Plate to roll also, to some degree, as across from Egypt there will be pressure, but further down the Red Sea there will be a tearing apart, inviting the Arabian Plate to migrate in this direction. However, this is not the disaster we have predicted for Iraq, not yet. Nor will the Afar Triangle, the African Rift Valley, experience changes all that dramatic during this roll.

[39mo185h7h7oi]

7.6 magnitude earthquake hits West coast of Mexico.

Is the Mainland Portion sliding to the SW as it is pulling the SE Portion down?  Is it a factor in the pending New Madrid rupture?

https://www.cbsnews.com/sacramento/news/preliminary-7-6-magnitude-e...

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted. 

Kamil Rak said:

7.6 magnitude earthquake hits West coast of Mexico.

Is the Mainland Portion sliding to the SW as it is pulling the SE Portion down?  Is it a factor in the pending New Madrid rupture?
[and from another]
Preliminary 7.6-magnitude earthquake hits west coast of Mexico; tsunami alert issued
September 19, 2022
https://www.cbsnews.com/sacramento/news/preliminary-7-6-magnitude-e...
The preliminary magnitude 7.6 earthquake was centered near La Placita de Morelos, about 300 miles northwest of Acapulco in the relatively sparsely populated western central Pacific Coast of Mexico, according to the US Geological Survey. People as far away as Mexico City, which is over 300 miles away from the epicenter, reported light shaking. 
[and from another]
7.6 Near Coast of Michoacan, Mexico
http://ds.iris.edu/ds/nodes/dmc/tools/event/11599611
Date/Time 2022-09-19 18-05-06 UTC
[and from another]
http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/earthquakes-worldwide
[and from another]
M 6.9 - TAIWAN - 2022-09-18 06:44:17 UTC
https://www.emsc-csem.org/Earthquake/earthquake.php?id=1170004
[and from another]
M 6.5 - TAIWAN - 2022-09-17 13:41:19 UTC
https://www.emsc-csem.org/Earthquake/earthquake.php?id=1169740
[and from another]
trendsmap.com/twitter/tweet/1571930405615411204

SOZT
The Severe Wobble proceeding over the past few months is having an effect on the Plate Movements. The scripted drama wherein the Pacific compresses and the Atlantic yaws open is accelerating. This can be seen from the spate of major earthquakes at Taiwan proceeding to a major earthquake along the Cocos Plate at the Mexican border. The Mainland Portion of N America has been dropping, putting stress on the origin of the New Madrid Fault Line. This can be seen in the plethora of deep quakes at the Isthmus of Tehuantepec where the fault line begins.

The domino effect
http://www.zetatalk.com/usenet/use90736.htm
of quakes is such that they travel West to East. This has been well documented within ZetaTalk. Thus the fact that the West Coast of N America reacted to the Taiwan quake swarm by allowing the Mainland Portion to shift down and to the West is not surprising. What can be expected next is a reaction in the Atlantic, which is spreading apart in the S Atlantic while the Africa Plate drops its foot into the void created. A large quake can also be anticipated when the Turkey rock hook snaps.
EOZT

[Tracie Crespo]

Hi Nancy & Zeta's.  Would you care to comment on what the Dark Judge is saying?  (From the Telegram ZTF Chat site.) They are saying they have ways of lessening the impact from the NMA?  You have said in the past that their claims to "lessen impact" (previously speaking about the PS) was not true.  Is this the same case here?  Thanks as always!

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted. I have time conflict this morning but short answer is, they do NOT have ways to stop plate movement or the Earth Wobble. This is a way to delay panic in the people, but is unfair to the public who can be guided by good advice to solutions. Full ZT on this issue by end of day today. Post Script: Text now, more later,

Tracie Crespo said:

Would you care to comment on what the Dark Judge is saying?  

 (From the Telegram ZTF Chat site.) (https://t.me/+TgOP5GA7XtCUjI6P) They are saying they have ways of lessening the impact from the NMA?  You have said in the past that their claims to "lessen impact" (previously speaking about the PS) was not true.  Is this the same case here? 

SOZT
The Dark Judge is part of the White Hat Alliance in Europe, and as such does not have the resources that the US Junta has in the US. There is a parallel between what the Dark Judge is doing, using denial to reduce riot and PANIC in the people, and what the Junta has done since the 2020 election debacle. The Junta is just now in the process of correcting this massive election theft, because they were faced with too many issues and fronts and chose to take them one at a time rather than exhaust their resources or lose a battle by stretching them too thin.

For the Dark Judge, working as a member of the White Hat Alliance, they are faced primarily with the Satanists, the Moloch crowd which tortures and sacrifices children for their adrenochrome rich blood. Europe and their royalty are and have been the source of this evil, and thus this mission is no small thing. If the US Junta has delayed correcting the 2020 elections to avoid civil war, the White Hats in Europe have delayed alerting the public about Nibiru and pending geographical changes to avoid PANIC in the people.

In this setting, one can get into a pissing contest with the Dark Judge about these issues or ignore his comments. Soon enough  his claim to have ways to stop plate movements and the crop shortages caused by the Daily Earth Wobble will be disproven. Have he and his compatriots been able to do that? Stop the massive Taiwan quake swarm or the immense quake on the Mexico/Cocos border? If they have this means, then what are they waiting for? Embrace and thank the Dark Judge team for the work they are doing fighting the Satanists and dismiss their ridiculous claims meant only to reduce PANIC in the people.
EOZT

[39mo185h7h7oi]

Do the Zetas want to say something about Donald Trump being sued by NY Attorney General?

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/donald-trump-sued-for-fraud-by-ny-a...

Last ditch effort to discredit Trump before being reinstated?

[39mo185h7h7oi]

Seven months on, Putin’s language was if anything even darker than in the early hours of February 24. Then, he warned the West that Russia would respond immediately to those who stood in its way, with consequences that “will be such as you have never seen in your entire history.”

Does Putin and Russia expect the European tsunami to be imminent? 

https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/21/europe/putin-russia-mobilization-ukr...

[Nancy Lieder]

Declined as you answered your own question. You're pretty good at that! "Last ditch effort to discredit Trump before being reinstated?" Per the Zetas 9/24 alerts are about the Junta allowing SCOTUS to announce their finding re the 2020 election. So quick they are trying to stop that because there are rules that a person cannot run for President if they have been convicted of a felony. But there are also rules that say a sitting President (Trump) cannot be sued during their reign, they must be impeached instead. So it is an intimidation attempt by the NY AG. 

Kamil Rak said:

Do the Zetas want to say something about Donald Trump being sued by NY Attorney General?

[Nancy Lieder]

Declined as once again you have answered your own question. Putin and Heads of State around the world have great respect for ZetaTalk and can see what is coming. This was the reason that NATO put together a plan (http://zetatalk.com/ning/31mr2022.htm) to invade Russia when chaos descended on Europe and western Russia due to the New Madrid tsunami. This plan, in writing, was leaked to Putin and was the reason he took the offensive and invaded Ukraine. Ukraine was going to be the point of entry into Russia during NATO's grab of the Russian oil and gas fields. NATO is still planning some sort of grab, and Putin is just saying - don't even try. 

Kamil Rak said:

Seven months on, Putin’s language was if anything even darker than in the early hours of February 24.

[Nancy Lieder]

Soldiers marching through London now?
https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message5240757/pg1
[and from another]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dREd4U6cam0
They were coming out of an industrial estate on burrell way, just off London Road Thetford, next to the lidl supermarket. Very strange events, the masses didn't batter an eyelid. I can't find no public information online about why these UN military personnel and vehicles are in the UK today September 24th 2022.
[and from another]
Troops UK at night 9/25 vid
https://t.me/samanthaaldersonnews/65949

SOZT
Where the Biden Double currently posturing as the President of the United States is under the control of the Junta, this has not stopped a swarm of Democrat Satanists from trying to take over the federal agencies. Once appointed by the Democrat Congress, they hire their cronies and the swarm increases in size. Thus the threat of President Trump being reinstated is particularly worrisome for the Khazarian bankers who demand interest from the Federal Reserve
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue674.htm
for a debt they did not earn. London is the financial center for the Khazarians, and thus riots in London was expected on September 24 if Trump were reinstated.
EOZT