ZetaTalk Chat for June 30, 2022

[Nancy Lieder]

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3. The Zetas, as all visitors, are under rules on how they interact with humanity. They are not here to rescue you. They cannot divert Planet X just as today they do not prevent droughts or floods. The Earth is mankind’s schoolhouse whereby he learns to help his fellow man.
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Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 78 years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

[Nancy Lieder]

https://www.facebook.com/MLH5150/posts/pfbid0w9Bc2ge2zShSWCXPDt6bb6...
This appeared a hundred or so feet out over Lake Erie, about 20 to 30 feet above, over the lake last night right after sunset.
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I, one time saw an orb floating from South Cleveland towards Lake Erie. It took over 15 minutes for the orb to get over to the lake. I closely watched it and once over the lake, it soon disappeared. It just disappeared!
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I've seen the spheres over the lake since I was a child. Never very far from the surface, various colors, random. Sometimes, I can see them illuminate the water as they float above it.
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Reminds me of something I captured from my garden last summer.

SOZT
Unlike the Motherships
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/30ju2021.htm
photo capture from 2021, these Lake Erie orbs are but a type of ball lightning,
https://www.zetatalk.com/science/s114.htm
suspended above the water. Lake Erie lies along the tense New Madrid Fault line, and thus the rock is under tension and supports the electronic screech that rock under compression emits. Note the association of water for these sightings. Lightning wants to ground in water and would do so unless the particle flows coming up from fault lines under the water is too forceful. The lightning thus migrates to the water but can go no further until it eventually dissipates into the air.
EOZT

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/30ju2021.htm
Motherships are disguised in clouds, or by bending light rays to go around the ship so that it is not seen from the ground. Recently there was an instance in Edmonton, Canada on May 13 where the Mothership was visible within the clouds. Decades ago Nancy and her neighbors observed a Mothership within a cloud, identified only by the traffic of smaller craft zipping into and out of the cloud. These photos provided by an Idaho photographer were indeed a deliberate Mothership sighting, to encourage the photographer to take photos of Nibiru, which he then did in a fury. The Mothership was coated in ice as a disguise, to appear more cloudlike.

Prior 2001 ZT: https://www.zetatalk.com/science/s114.htm
There are some 387 discrete sub-atomic particles composing what man understands to be the flow of electrons or a magnetic field. Each operates differently, but most are not so obvious as the electron, the stage-master throwing lightning bolts at the audience. Consider that an electrically charged field may be immense, covering the horizon that can be seen from end to end, and rising for miles up into the sky. Consider that within this charged field, there are not simply electrons and the particle that creates the phenomenon of magnetism, but all the other 387 particles that operate in a similar manner, each with its own desire to equalize its distribution in the vicinity. Ball formation occurs when the particles that would disperse are forced to remain in the vicinity by a greater pressure from other particles surrounding them.

[Tracie Crespo]

via facebook

Gianluca Marvosi

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Hi Nancy & Zeta's - Lots of internet buzz regarding this pic.  Would the Zeta's care to detail what exactly we are seeing here?  Is it the Nibiru complex or Petrol blob?  Thanks.

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted
Tracie Crespo said:

Would the Zeta's care to detail what exactly we are seeing here? 

Lots of internet buzz regarding this pic.  Would the Zeta's care to detail what exactly we are seeing here?  Is it the Nibiru complex or Petrol blob? 
[and from another]
Ontario, Canada: Nibiru Visibility 
http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/nibiru-visibility

SOZT
This streak of burning Petrol appears to be in motion only because of the Earth's rotation. The camera is fixed on the setting Sun, so as the globe turns toward the East is it coming under the burning Petrol which was an hour or so ago between the Earth and Sun in the view from Ontario. Thus the appearance of a streak as the Petrol burn lingers in the upper atmosphere. We had recently predicted that more such signs of the Nibiru complex would be apparent in the skies, and this is an example.
EOZT

[39mo185h7h7oi]

The Zetas have described the New Madrid rupture in detail.  But he East Coast is not used to experiencing earthquakes.

Can the Zetas describe in more detail how the East Coast fault line will adjust after the New Madrid rips? How strong will the earthquakes be along the coast line? Are major cities like New York City going to be devastated?

[Nancy Lieder]

Declined because this is already covered. New Madrid link in Safe Locations ZT advice. Big earthquakes but in the North East, not so much.  (http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx050.htm)

individuals living in areas which have never experienced an earthquake should not presume safety but should take the same steps in preparing for the pole shift that those living atop highly active fault lines take - stay out of old or masonry buildings, and anticipate earthquakes as severe as any that mankind has ever experienced and noted. 

For the New Madrid, which will include the European tsunami in its effects, there will be one large jolt with a subsequent and almost immediate tearing of the Atlantic. We have stated that the European tsunami will be the largest, but smaller ones will follow in time. Likewise for the New Madrid adjustment, which involve a tearing of the entire N American continent from the seaway down to Mexico. This adjustment will not occur until minor rock fingers have been steadily broken in a number of places. The areas to be affected have already been experiencing quake swarms, buckling roadways, sinkholes, breaking dams, and unsettling jigging which is unexplained by the authorities. When the primary blockage gives, there will be a huge jolt, with little warning. 

As the New Madrid fault line runs up along the Seaway just under the Great lakes in Ohio, cities such as Cleveland and Toledo will find their infrastructure greatly shattered in places as the rock beneath them will jut and drop, vertical adjustments. Buffalo, being virtually on the fault line, will likewise be shattered in this way, such that freeways become useless

When the plate tearing starts in earnest, these slip-slide jolts will be huge, and rise up to the magnitude 8-9 range, as we have stated. These quakes will ride up to the bend in the fault line just south of Lake Michigan. 

As is known, there is a fault line running up along the East Coast of the US that attaches to the New Madrid fault line in the Gulf. Both fault lines touch there, in the Gulf, and when the New Madrid adjusts there is a sympathetic adjustment up along this fault line. During the last New Madrid adjustment, church bells rang in Boston and cracks appeared in buildings in Savannah, GA and Charleston, SC. These changes are caused by earthquakes equivalent to a magnitude 4-5 or less, not serious.

Kamil Rak said:

The Zetas have described the New Madrid rupture in detail.  But he East Coast is not used to experiencing earthquakes.

Can the Zetas describe in more detail how the East Coast fault line will adjust after the New Madrid rips? How strong will the earthquakes be along the coast line? Are major cities like New York City going to be devastated?

[Nancy Lieder]

Would they use this method to drive the populace of city folk into the uplands of Mongolia? Is this a test?
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Shanghai in CHAOS as Residents Rush to Flee the City following Rollback of COVID-19 Restrictions
June 3, 2022
https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-06-03-shanghai-residents-flee-city...
The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) has officially rolled back most of its Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) restrictions in Shanghai. But this sudden relaxation of restrictions only created chaos as residents en masse packed up their bags and fled the city amid concerns that Beijing could force them back into their homes. Those who could not board trains or buses and did not have cars were seen trekking miles across the city;s main highways with their luggage. Municipal authorities warned that the reopening was conditional on COVID-19 infections not increasing. Within a day after the rollback, city health officials announced the discovery of seven new COVID-19 cases in four neighborhoods in the districts of Pudong and Jing'an. These neighborhoods were immediately sealed off and designated as  medium-risk areas. 
[and from another]
https://t.me/ZetaTalk_Followers/14864

SOZT
Months after the total lockdown in Shanghai, the CCP has decided to lift the lockdown. What occurred was celebration among the people but also a surprise rush to leave the city. We stated when the Shanghai lockdown started that the CCP was terrified of what would occur when the public became aware of Nibiru. Anarchy. But lockdowns cannot be perpetuated forever, especially as Nibiru has been announcing itself. Of course, control of the media and control of access to the Internet has and will take place to create a false sense of well being among the populace.

How might this proceed in the near future? Shanghai has an estimated 26 million residents, who work in various industries and support the active Shanghai port. China itself has the highest population in the world, some 1.4 billion. Moving this massive population away from the coastlines and into the highlands of inner Mongolia where China has established Ghost Cities is a massive undertaking. Various plans have been debated for years with the lead plan being to frighten the population into moving to safety.

Coaxing runs into reluctance, because neighbors and family and favorite shops and schools and jobs are established and moving requires replacing these things. As the Shanghai lockdown has shown, if life in the city has become frightening, then the population will bolt out of the city at the first opportunity. Was the Shanghai lockdown a test? Yes, in part, to settle the debate so the CCP can establish firm plans on how and when to start the move to China's highlands.
EOZT

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31mr2022.htm
why is China frantic to lock down Shanghai? Like Hong Kong, Shanghai is a virtual free port. International travel, international communications and banking arrangements. It is an open door, where the people of China can learn the news from anyone in their family or town who might be vacationing or living there. China fears losing control. Media outlets and social media is very restricted in China, for this reason. What does China anticipate would occur if Nibiru were seen in the skies? Complete social breakdown. Anarchy.

[Nancy Lieder]

These are not the Azores, but close, and not on the Africa Plate border. Why is the Atlantic tearing there?

SOZT
What is the connection between the Heliplot in Bilibino becoming steadily black recently and the recent swarm of quakes just above the Azores in the Atlantic? These points lie on opposite sides of the long, flat plate border that runs through the Arctic. The Azores are on one end, Bilibino on the other end. Both these points are being tugged while N America adjusts, moving from a tight bow along the West Coast to relaxing into its former vertical posture. The N American Plate is pulled away from Bilibino when the Daily Earth Wobble causes the Earth's N Pole to lean toward the East. But when the N Pole leans to the West, the Atlantic just south of Iceland is being tugged.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

6-8-22 Berens River, Canada. Solar Phenomenon Mystery of the red triangle accompanied by many other smaller ones. I have seen this and many smaller triangle in other videos for sometimes now?
[and from another]
https://www.facebook.com/groups/351696368562307/posts/1662093324189...
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What Is Lens Flare?
January 22, 2022
https://www.scienceabc.com/innovation/what-is-lens-flare.html
Flares are caused by very bright light sources and typically occur when shooting in the sun, but they re also seen when heavy background light is used in studios. They manifest in two different ways a yellowish-white haze across the image and as visible geometric artifacts, such as polygons and circles. The shapes of the flare depend on the shape of the aperture. If the lens has a 6-bladed aperture, the flare may appear as a hexagonal pattern.
[and from another]
http://www.zetatalk6.com/newsletr/issue642.htm

SOZT
What would cause a red triangle lens flare to emerge on photos the past couple years? Lens flares are a camera effect and usually result in a line of circles or a vertical line or halo. An experienced photographer knows how to avoid flares, but they bedevil inexperienced photographers. NASA released a Cassini photo in 2007 that presented a Hexagon on the surface of Saturn. This was not a lens flare but a result of particle crowding avoidance, as we explained.
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta561.htm
This phenomenon causes flares on the Sun to be hexagonal or cross shaped.

Alberto provided a detailed photo of various Moon Swirls in 2017. Two of the six sorted the moons into a Triangular shape. The Berens River photo and other photos showing a triangular reflection are not lens flares but represent the shape of a Moon Swirl standing between the Sun and Earth. Of course this shape fans out, appearing larger than the physical shape of the Moon Swirl. An object standing close to a light will look larger where the shadow is cast. As the Nibiru Complex draws closer, more new signs in the skies will be presented to mankind.
EOZT

Prior 2010 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta561.htm
We have mentioned that particles of like kind seek to clump with each other, attracted, but likewise seek to avoid crowding, thus are constantly in motion. When rushing into a conduit such as the opportunity of a gaseous planet presents, these many particles want to clump and avoid the crowding at the same time. The point where crowding is not too extreme are the sides of the hexagram, and between these points where crowding is less are the points. Any geometric structure might have evolved, depending upon the sensitivity of the particles being forced into the conduit.

[Nancy Lieder]

I noticed that Juan o'Savin was missing from Before Its News a couple months ago, since March it seems, but suddenly Before Its News has several interviews with him. Timeless subjects, but close exam shows they are dated from the past. A Google search shows Mel K and others using audio from his lectures in podcasts, dated as though in the present. Has he been ill or assassinated? Today, June 10, Before Its News has 4 of Juan's interviews on their main page, a flood. What's up?
[and from another]
June 10 BIN date
https://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2022/06/juan-o-savin-election...
Join Juan as he discusses where we are as a Nation, the fight ahead and who we are fighting. As alway, a thorough discussion on what is being done to help restore the Republic and what you can do to stay involved.
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June 7, BIN date
https://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2022/06/juan-o-savin...
Juan O Savin With David Nino Rodriguez Bombshell Update! - Must Video
(Note: references Daily Mail article dated Feb 12, 2022.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10506599/Hillary-Clintons-...)
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June 5 BIN date
https://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2022/06/juan-o-savin...
Juan O Savin - Don't Worry! ~ Q Plan! - Must Video
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June 9 BIN date
https://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2022/06/juan-o-savin-michael-...
(Note: has discussion about meeting Robert David Steele, now dead for almost a year.)
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May 21 Podcast date
https://www.audible.com/pd/FULL-INTERVIEW-You-CANT-Trust-Your-Eyes-...

SOZT
Juan's frequent interviews showed he was moving around from city to city. His face always concealed. This is a sign he feared being assassinated and wanted confusion among those who would hunt him. Juan was fiercely pro-Trump and anti-Satanist, and as an insider spread the truth. He is not dead nor sick but took himself out of the public arena recently due to a scare. Before Its News is using old material that is timeless to stand in at this time for Juan, whom they expect to find a way to safely return.
EOZT

[39mo185h7h7oi]

Exactly ten years ago, ZetaTalk followers learned about a possible announcement re Nibiru. The announcement turned out to be a colossal failure. From Obama to the prongs to Russian admission, all attempts to admit Nibiru have failed.

Now the Nibiru complex has come much closer, the wobble is getting severe, and visibility is greatly increasing.

What is the status of the announcement as of now? After a decade of failed attempts are we being poised for admissions re Nibiru or is the scientific community shutting down and admission not likely to be made until the last weeks have arrived in 2026 or 2027?

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted. For an update and historical review. 

Kamil Rak said:

Exactly ten years ago, ZetaTalk followers learned about a possible announcement re Nibiru.

The announcement turned out to be a colossal failure. From Obama to the prongs to Russian admission, all attempts to admit Nibiru have failed. Now the Nibiru complex has come much closer, the wobble is getting severe, and visibility is greatly increasing. What is the status of the announcement as of now? After a decade of failed attempts are we being poised for admissions re Nibiru or is the scientific community shutting down and admission not likely to be made until the last weeks have arrived in 2026 or 2027?

SOZT
Indeed, Obama was poised to announce the presence and pending passage of Nibiru by the Fall of 2015. General Dunford had called the Jade Helm exercise to handle any riots that might ensue. But as we stated at the time, Obama lacked courage
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue496.htm
and the announcement stalled. Due to Obama's inability to stand up to the Cabal, General Dunford instituted Martial Law at that time, which has continued to this day. The Council of Worlds then encouraged what we called the Prongs 
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue732.htm
the announcement done by private astronomers. This too met opposition and threats and stalled.

Where Russia is much more open about Nibiru - their Patriarch Kirill admitting that the globe is in the End Times - the possibility of an announcement coming from Russia has been countered by the falsehoods the western media alleges about Russia. Russia has prepared their Far East,
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue417.htm
and China likewise with their Ghost Cities,
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue228.htm
but it is the Satanist controlled establishment in Europe and the Commonwealth countries that fear losing control if the public learns of Nibiru. Britannia no longer Rules the Waves,
https://www.rockol.com/uk/lyrics-41796810/the-royal-choral-society-...
as they did in former colonial times, so truth is forbidden in the western media.

The US Junta and White Hat Alliance in Europe are arresting and executing Satanists and replacing them with Doubles.
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue696.htm
After the 2020 election theft the Junta found itself with a Chinese CCP invasion and a Deep State so infected with Satanism that announcing Nibiru was the least concern. Now the Junta and White Hats have gained the upper hand but in the meantime starvation due to weather induced crop shortages looms. In the short time remaining until the Passage of Nibiru yet more chaos will emerge due to Plate Movements.

The fear that riots will overwhelm the military in the US is paramount for the Junta. The fear of Civil War in the US has even delayed reinstating President Trump, though the Junta considers him their Commander in Chief. We have stated that the lockdown tests in Shanghai are being done because China frankly fears anarchy. Meanwhile Nibiru is announcing itself daily in a distinct and measurable wobble and signs in the skies such as flaming Petrol. Rather than an official announcement that Nibiru is approaching for a passage, the populace should expect a tighter grip by the establishment controlled military.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

Aircraft crash, and everyone ignored the EMP. They would rather have the public blame pilot error, even though they're the most experienced pilots in the world?
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US Navy Declares  Safety Pause  after Three Aircraft Crash in a Week
June 12, 2022
https://swentr.site/news/557016-us-navy-marine-crashes-safety-pause/
The US military has ordered a temporary halt to some non-critical missions, in order to conduct a risk and error review, after a Marine Corps MV-22B Osprey, as well as Navy MH-60S Seahawk and a F/A-18E Super Hornet fighter jet all crashed within a single week in southern California. On June 9, a US Navy Sikorsky MH-60S Seahawk helicopter crashed near Naval Air Field El Centro, California. On June 8, a US Marine MV-22B Osprey crashed near Glamis, California, killing all five Marines on board. On June 3, a US Navy fighter jet pilot was killed when his F/A-18E Super Hornet crashed in the Mojave Desert of Southern California.
[and from another]
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue676.htm

SOZT
Mexico is buffered from direct subduction of the Pacific Plate by the Cocos Plate. The Northern West Coast of the US is likewise buffered from direct subduction by the Juan de Fuca Plate. In between these zones the N American Plate does not have a buffer, so as it relaxes from the bow stress imposed upon it for years while the Pacific compressed and the Atlantic widened, it has extreme subduction friction along the West Coast. The Pacific Plate pushes under N America all the way to the Continental Divide.

As we have endlessly emphasized, rock under compression will emit electronic screech. The Cocos and Juan de Fuca plates absorb this friction, but for that stretch of the West Coast direct subduction occurs for many miles inland, even to and past the Arizona/California border. On March 26, 2019 President Trump issued an EO
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue676.htm
on Coordinating National Resilience to Electromagnetic Pulses, but there is no better safety during an EMP storm than landing planes. Use drones instead.
EOZT