ZetaTalk Chat for August 31, 2021

[Nancy Lieder]

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3. The Zetas, as all visitors, are under rules on how they interact with humanity. They are not here to rescue you. They cannot divert Planet X just as today they do not prevent droughts or floods. The Earth is mankind’s schoolhouse whereby he learns to help his fellow man.
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Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 78 years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email.

Interesting. Seems to be true. Unsure of age.
[and from another]
US Farmers Ordered to Destroy their Crops and Dump Oil
https://www.brighteon.com/050b0095-8a93-4542-a85c-8bd07743ab4a
Under the guise of "Climate change" US farmers have been instructed to destroy their crops rather than harvest them. Is this is to create a food shortage to gain even more control? Or is this the first step to taking farms out of private ownership/control?
[and from another]
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/government-farmers-destroy-crops/
In the summer of 2021, rumors started to circulate on social media that the U.S. government was forcing farmers to destroy their crops. This rumor was largely spread in TikTok videos by people claiming that they had received letters from the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) instructing farmers to destroy their crops. The letter in this video is dated 2018 and the displayed papers are about land management training. This TikTok user informed viewers in the comments that this was just a joke. One person, for instance, claimed that they were told to destroy oil in order to manipulate gas prices. Ryan Peter or @bushelsandbarrels, posted follow-up videos to clarify that his oil dumping video was just a joke. there is a kernel of truth at the center of this rumor. During the COVID-19 pandemic, as the restaurant industry saw a dramatic reduction in business, many farmers found themselves with more supply that they could sell. U.S. President Joe Biden’s administration is also encouraging farmers to leave some of their land fallow as part of the Conservation Reserve Program (CRP).
[and from another]
Is the Government Really Paying Farmers to Destroy Crops and Kill Animals?
July 22, 2021
https://www.greenmatters.com/p/government-paying-farmers-destroy-crops
Early in the coronavirus pandemic in the U.S., reduced demand for bulk orders of dairy products had the dairy industry pouring raw, unpasteurized milk down drains and dumping it outdoors. At the same time, many slaughterhouses shut down due to COVID outbreaks, which forced a lot of farms to 
“depopulate” their livestock, aka kill the animals (by gunshot or CO2) and discard their bodies. Additionally, early in the pandemic, fruit and vegetable farmers were essentially forced to trash crops (including top berry manufacturer Driscolls), even though food banks were in serious need of food, because the government refused to give financial assistance to make the donations happen. Basically, farmers are not eligible for government subsidies if they are not actively raising animals or growing crops — so it’s more profitable for them to continue business as usual, but trash berries, milk, and even animals instead.
[and from another]
TikTok Totally Fell for this Big Lie about US Farmers
August 25, 2021
https://www.mashed.com/585737/tiktok-totally-fell-for-this-big-lie-...
The latest wave of misinformation to spread across social media originated from a series of viral TikTok posts in which farmers joke that the government is forcing them to destroy portions of their supply in order to manipulate the market. However, the comedic aspect of these videos flew over many viewers' heads, resulting in an unintended outbreak of online outrage.

SOZT
The US Department of Agriculture has programs to help keep food production stable. These programs include price controls to maintaining a reasonable return to the farmers, else farmers would go bankrupt. Subsidies to farmers and allowing fields to go fallow on occasion are part of this effort. If a herd or flock is diseased, the farmer is often forced to destroy the lot to contain the disease. This is a common practice in China where swine and bird flu emerge. During the start of the Covid-19 pandemic, the distribution of goods and food stuff was so disrupted that crops and milk were forced to rot and spoil, and this food was destroyed to control the spread of any disease.

What does it say about the state of trust between the government and the public that a deliberate and acknowledged TikTok joke would be taken seriously by so many? We have stated that well over half the global population is chatting with aliens, and learning the truth about Nibiru and its pending passage. They know that the alien presence is real, yet disclosure on both these issues is delayed. The world knows that the wrong President is sitting in the White House, and that major media outlets are liars and puppets of the elite. If big lies such as these are supported, then why would small lies not seem reasonable?
EOZT

[39mo185h7h7oi]

Can the Zetas tell who is responsible for the terror attack in Kabul today?

Four US Marines dead, three wounded.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJx3UA9o114&ab_channel=FoxNews

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted. 

Kamil Rak said:

Can the Zetas tell who is responsible for the terror attack in Kabul today?

Can the Zetas tell who is responsible for the terror attack in Kabul today?
[and from another]
Four US Marines dead, three wounded.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJx3UA9o114&ab_channel=FoxNews
[and from another]
Hundreds Of ISIS-K Militants Surround Kabul Airport, More Attacks Expected
August 26, 2021
https://dailycaller.com/2021/08/26/isis-militants-kabul-afghanistan...
[and from another]
Third Explosion Near Kabul Airport, Pentagon Confirms 12 U.S. Service Members Killed
August 26, 2021
https://www.oann.com/u-s-embassy-alert-tells-americans-not-to-trave...
There were two suicide bombers: one at Abbey Gate and the second one in the vicinity of the Barron Hotel. The CIA is conducting covert operations outside of the Kabul airport to extract U.S. citizens from Afghanistan. The agency is reportedly using U.S. military equipment and troops to conduct the missions, which are under CIA jurisdiction to rescue U.S. citizens, Green Card holders and Afghan citizens who helped the U.S. A recent report from the White house gave an update on the number of evacuees rescued from Afghanistan in the last 24-hours. As of Thursday morning, an official confirmed approximately 14,000 people were cleared out of the region in that time frame. Seventeen U.S. military flights carried roughly 5,000 evacuees out of Kabul while 74 coalition flights carried around 8,300 people.
[and from another]
McMaster on Afghanistan carnage: 'What we saw today is just the beginning'
August 26, 2021
https://www.yahoo.com/news/mc-master-on-afghanistan-carnage-what-we...
Former Trump administration national security adviser H.R. McMaster called on President Biden to “reverse course” in the aftermath of terrorist bombings in Kabul, urging him to scrap his deadline for pulling U.S. troops out of Afghanistan, cut off dealings with the Taliban and launch a new war on terror against jihadi networks throughout Central Asia.
[and from another]
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/the-dirty-secre...
[and from another]
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue598.htm
What do the Zetas mean by their statement that Herbert Bush is the drug kingpin? When did the drug epidemic in the US start? By 1971 the War on Drugs was declared. Herbert became CIA Director in 1974. How often were CIA planes found to be loaded with cocaine? And what was the deal between Herbert and the Clintons in Arkansas re landing those loaded planes?
[and from another]
https://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/frontpage/2021/May/afghanistan_-37-p...
Opium poppy cultivation is not a local problem. Converted into heroin it is not only consumed in Afghanistan and surrounding countries, but also in Europe which is the main destination for heroin produced in Afghanistan.
[and from another]
How the US military's opium war in Afghanistan was lost
April 19, 2019
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47861444
The study found that, despite excellent intelligence, the multi-million-dollar campaign was having a negligible effect on the Taliban and the drug trafficking networks in Afghanistan.

SOZT
What would ISIS or the Taliban have to gain from an attack on the US Military as it was in the process of evacuating Kabul? Such an attack would only encourage those who say that the US should continue their presence and reverse the withdrawal. Is this what the Taliban and ISIS desire? The smart move would be to let the US Military leave, and then move in to tighten control over Kabul. Thus it is patently obvious on its face that the August 26 attack on the US Military was done by those wanting to force the US to remain in Afghanistan.

Of course such a move would be done by proxy, so the attack could be blamed on others. ISIS was only too willing to be given an opportunity, thus was provided with equipment and access not otherwise available to them. What entities are so intensely interested in having the US Military remain in Afghanistan? As is known, Herbert Bush
https://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31de2016.htm
was at the helm of a profitable drug distribution enterprise with Cocaine from Columbia. As head of the CIA when he was a VP under Reagan,
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31de2019.htm
his reach went beyond Cocaine and included Heroin from Afghanistan poppies, distributed widely via Europe.

Herbert Bush is long dead but the Deep State lives on. While the US Military was deployed in Afghanistan, the profits from Heroin production did not go to the Taliban, but went instead to those Americans and their associates protected by the Military. With President Trump’s orders to withdraw that would stop and return to Taliban control. Will this August 26 attack stop the US withdrawal, or even delay it? As the White Hat Double Biden has confirmed, no delay will occur. But the US Military will allow the Taliban and ISIS to take the blame.
EOZT

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31de2019.htm
During the Reagan years, George Herbert Bush was head of the CIA. Thus Nakasone allowed Herbert Bush to dictate how US corporations, friendly to the Bush CIA, were to be treated. It went far beyond mere corporate profits and into dozens of criminal enterprises including those still flourishing today and under investigation by the US Junta Tribunals. Drug and gun running was a minor issue compared to the traffic in young children the CIA used to secure blackmail on those entrapped in pedophile practices.

Prior ZT: https://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31de2016.htm
Ben Fulford talks about the Bush/Clinton/Netanyahu crime families, referring to this group as a Mafia. Herbert Bush got wealthy having the CIA bring cocaine in from Colombia. The Clinton’s cooperated with these drug flights while in Arkansas, and when Hillary was Secretary of State, she raked in the cash via pay for play arrangement.

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted from ZT Followers: 

August 26th 2021 SE Idaho 5:15PM - Playing around with some filters and came up with this repetitive setup. I'm not totally sure what is going on and the Zetas comments would be most welcome if they are available to do so.
[and from another]
https://www.facebook.com/marty.mcflew.75/posts/356487479445233

SOZT
This is not the first time that the Daily Earth Wobble has been caught on film. Shoving the globe in from one side to the other happens quickly. This has been reported by people watching the Moon jump quickly in the sky, and was captured on film by Gordon Gianninoto
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue304.htm
in 2012 in a series of time stamped photos. Marty has captured the view of the Sun on the move. These are not Sun ghosts in the lens, nor objects in the sky, but the Sun shifting position in the view from Earth during a wobble move happening within seconds.
EOZT

[Stanislav]

Hi Nancy and Zetas,

This is complete surrealism...

Japan Suspects Contaminant In Moderna Vaccines Is Metallic, 'Reacts To Magnets'

The Japanese Ministry of Health announced on Thursday that around 1.6 million doses of Moderna's Covid-19 vaccine have been taken out of use due to contamination in some vials that 'reacts to magnets,' according to a ministry official.

<...> "It's a substance that reacts to magnets," the official told Nikkei, adding "It could be metal."

Moderna, meanwhile, has confirmed receiving "several complaints of particulate matter" in vials distributed in Japan, but that "not safety or efficacy issues" were found related to the reports.

<...> 

Some believe the reported magnetism can be explained by graphene oxide, a magnetic nanoparticle studied for its use as a drug delivery platform and other biomedical applications.

Critics note with the fact that that graphene oxide is not listed as an ingredient in any available Covid-19 vaccine, while skeptics counter with 'so what?' If random batches are tainted with foreign substances, on accident or on purpose, of course they wouldn't be listed in the ingredients.

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/japan-withdraws-16-million-moder...

Thank you very much

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted. But this has come up before when vax'd people could stick a magnet to the vax spot. A whole conspiracy theory about the magnetic quality has arisen. Will do this early tomorrow. 

Stanislav said:

This is complete surrealism...

[and from another]
Japan Suspects Contaminant in Moderna Vaccines is Metallic, 'Reacts to Magnets'
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/japan-withdraws-16-million-moder...
The Japanese Ministry of Health announced that around 1.6 million doses of Moderna's Covid-19 vaccine have been taken out of use due to contamination in some vials that 'reacts to magnets,' according to a ministry official. Some believe the reported magnetism can be explained by graphene oxide, a magnetic nanoparticle studied for its use as a drug delivery platform and other biomedical applications. Critics note with the fact that that graphene oxide is not listed as an ingredient in any available Covid-19 vaccine.
[and from another]
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue767.htm

[and from another]
Breaking – Germany Halts all Covid-19 Vaccines, says They are Unsafe and No Longer Recommended
August 27, 2021
https://www.bitchute.com/video/5Rf83cc8FDPB
There has been a 2 week pause so they can reflect on the damages being caused to their people, No one can get it and the vaxxine license has been put on pause!

[and from another]
Covid: Germany limits Use of AstraZeneca Covid jab for Under-60s
March 30, 2021
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56580728
The German medicines regulator found 31 cases of a type of rare blood clot among the nearly 2.7 million people who had received the vaccine in Germany. Canada earlier suspended use of the AstraZeneca jab in people under 55. AstraZeneca said international regulators had found the benefits of its jab outweighed risks significantly.

[and from another]
Italy, France, Germany Join Countries Suspending AstraZeneca Coronavirus Vaccine
March 15, 2021
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-03-15/italy-f...
Italy, France and Germany are all banning the use of the vaccine, developed with Oxford University, because of reports of people developing serious blood clots after receiving the shot. German Health Minister Jens Spahn said in a press conference that Germany is temporarily suspending use of the vaccine, calling it "a professional decision and not a political one." Italy, France and Germany join Ireland, the Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Iceland and Bulgaria in halting use of the vaccine.

SOZT
The question is not why Japan has decided to ban the Moderna mRNA vaccine for impurities but why now? Photos of magnets sticking to the injection site were appearing last May,
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue767.htm
and studies showed that the vaccine caused red blood cells to shed their iron.
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31ma2021.htm
Problems with the vaccine such as spike protein shedding and attacks on the syncytin-1 protein
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue763.htm
causing nursing mothers to lose their milk and pregnancies to be aborted were also well documented. Now heart inflammation among the young who are vaccinated is adding to the death count, so the vaccine is causing as many problems and death
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/736427/
as Covid-19 itself.

Since the issue of magnetic particles within the mRNA vaccines is nothing new, inherent in the delivery system of the vaccine, why did it take Japan so long to fuss? We have described the lockdowns taking place around the globe as based more on fear of the public awakening to the presence of Nibiru than based on a need to contain Covid-19 or its variants. The reaction in the public in many European countries and Australia borders on revolution.
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31ag2021.htm
If the mRNA vaccine is proving to be worse than the disease, are the lockdowns proving to be worse than simply allowing herd immunity to develop, as Nature intended?

Some Heads of State seeing the conundrum are trying to figure out how to back away from the lockdown craze while not losing face. Some states in the US have refused to participate in draconian lockdowns or mandatory vax commands. Many employers calling for mandatory vax will find their enterprise floundering without key people who have chosen to quit. Japan is not waiting for others to lead, but has chosen to take the lead.
EOZT

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31ma2021.htm
Is there a relationship between changes in red blood cells after the mRNA Covid-19 vaccination and the reports on social media that people can get a magnet to stick to the injection site shortly after taking the jab? There absolutely is a relationship. Now yet another side effect of the mRNA vaccine has come to light, the effect on red blood cells. It has been carefully documented that days after the vaccination, red blood cells are shedding their iron, and during this time the vaccination site can be shown to be somewhat magnetized. Fortunately, this is a temporary reaction to one of the vaccine ingredients, thus will not result in permanent iron deficiency.

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email: 

Would the Zetas care to shed some light on the purpose of Roman era dodecahedron's? Their use or function is unknown by current man.
[and from another]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_dodecahedron
A Roman dodecahedron or Gallo-Roman dodecahedron is a small hollow object made of copper alloy which has been cast into a regular dodecahedral shape: twelve flat pentagonal faces, each face having a circular hole of varying diameter in the middle, the holes connecting to the hollow center. Roman dodecahedra date from the 2nd to 4th centuries AD. No mention of dodecahedrons has been found in contemporary accounts or pictures of the time. Speculated uses include as a candlestick holder (wax was found inside two examples); dice; survey instruments for estimating distances to (or sizes of) distant objects; devices for determining the optimal sowing date for winter grain;[6] gauges to calibrate water pipes, legionary standard bases, a coin measuring device for counterfeit detection. It has also been suggested that they may have been religious artifacts, or even fortune-telling devices. 
[and from another]
Roman dodecahedrons: Mysterious objects that have been found across the territory of the Roman Empire
December 6, 2016
https://www.thevintagenews.com/2016/12/06/roman-dodecahedrons-myste...

SOZT
The dodecahedrons were used as legionary standard bases, to free the hands of the legionaries. This is obvious from the shape, wherein the hole size on the top has an identical hole size on the bottom. The ancient dodecahedrons have multiple hole shapes, but in every case this matching of top to bottom occurs. They were designed to hold standard poles of various sizes, thus. The weight, in bronze or iron, supports the standards, which do not thus fall over. The function of the dodecahedron has been lost in the fog of years just as the function of something like a pocket guard to prevent ink pens from staining a shirt might be lost. It was unimportant, and trivial.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

As is our usual practice, we are closing this August Q&A and opening September. Please post your new questions there. Thank you.

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