ZetaTalk Chat for September 30, 2021

[Nancy Lieder]

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Zeta Rules that Apply

1. No personal counseling is done.This rule has been in place since 1996. Questions should be of broad interest to the general public.
2. Correlation or resolution of ZetaTalk with the work of other channels or authors is not done unless they predict and have a prediction accuracy track record, as otherwise they are not a peer of ZetaTalk which does so. This rule has been in place since 2002. Just because another website or author makes a statement does not make that statement true, nor will the Zetas explain to you why their statements are not true, as then they are taking time out to address the issue.
3. The Zetas, as all visitors, are under rules on how they interact with humanity. They are not here to rescue you. They cannot divert Planet X just as today they do not prevent droughts or floods. The Earth is mankind’s schoolhouse whereby he learns to help his fellow man.
4. The date of the pole shift cannot be given, but the sequence of events can be given. [ Link ] Check the ning pinned discussions and blogs for such information as the 7 of 10, the last weeks, etc.

Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 78 years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email and from the ZetaTalk Followers. 

I don't know if you have seen this. I thought you might want to add this to the New Madrid blog.
[and from another]
TECTONIC ! Bean field collapses and falls 25 feet overnight in rural Minnesota.
[and from another]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7ryv-TqClk
[and from another]
Bean Field Collapses in Northwestern Minnesota
August 26, 2021
https://www.mprnews.org/story/2021/08/26/bean-field-collapses-in-no...
Some consider it a geological wonder. A crack in the soil of a bean field in northwestern Minnesota has caused the ground to collapse 25 feet, creating a quarter-mile-long ravine.
[and from another]
It looks like the Grand Canyon! Bean Field Collapses and falls 25 Feet Overnight in Rural Minnesota, Baffling Farmers and Experts
August 28, 2021
https://strangesounds.org/2021/08/bean-field-collapses-minnesota-vi...
Consequence of the extreme drought in Near Climax, Minnesota, a small crack in the ground has grown, causing a quarter-mile long stretch of bean field to fall 25 feet. Few have ever seen anything like it.

SOZT
From the start of the ZetaTalk saga we have warned that the St. Lawrence Seaway
http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tworx581.htm
would split further open. We warned that this would happen during the Pole Shift, but will be in process well ahead of that time. In 2006 when a pipeline carrying oil from Saskatchewan to Chicago
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue052.htm
ruptured, we explained that this was due to the Seaway expanding underground, all the way from the Seaway exit into the Atlantic to the rumpled Black Hills of S Dakota.
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta261.htm

The N American Plate is under extreme stress at present, locked in place at its flat top in the Arctic while the tip of Mexico is pulled toward the West. While the SE Portion of the N American Plate holds tight and refuses to rip from its moorings along the Mississippi River, the tugging on the rock strata finds other weak spots to relieve the tension. It is notable that our suggestion that a line drawn from the Seaway exit to the Black Hills would show the line of tension, and Climax, Minnesota is right on that line.
EOZT

Prior 2/10/2006 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta261.htm
The stress on the N American plate will resolve by ripping the St. Lawrence Seaway open. A widening Seaway also does not affect just those land masses bordering the Seaway, as buckling occurs inland and afar. What does man assume caused the Black Hills to be so rumpled, with the appearance of a recent buckling and heaving? This is the center of a land plate! The tearing of the Seaway does not end at Duluth, MN. It travels underground to South Dakota!

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted from ZT Followers.

Various articles inre "Internet Apocalypse" Hmmm.  "By damaging the undersea cable network?" How does the sun affect undersea cables?
[and from another]
Science, Space, Health & Robotics
Internet apocalypse: solar storm could knock internet out for WEEKS
August 29, 2021
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/81367/internet-apocalypse-solar-stor...
Planning for an Internet Apocalypse" found that local and regional Internet infrastructure could be hit but they would be fine -- the long undersea cables on the other hand, are at risk. The reason is that there are repeaters under the sea that connect the internet cables, at around 50-150km apart. The repeaters amplify the optical signal, so if there was a Carrington-style solar storm, the electronic internals of the repeaters would have their asses kicked. If enough of the repeaters were affected, it would make the entire undersea cable useless.
[and from another]
A Bad Solar Storm Could Cause an 'Internet Apocalypse'
August 28, 2021
https://www.wired.com/story/solar-storm-internet-apocalypse-underse...
The global internet is built for resilience. If one pathway isn't available, traffic reroutes across other paths, a property that could potentially keep connectivity up, even at reduced speeds, in the event of a solar storm. Foundational data routing systems like the Border Gateway Protocol and Domain Name System could start to malfunction, creating knock-on outages. 
[and from another]
An “Internet Apocalypse” Might Result from a Severe Solar Storm
August 29, 2021
https://www.techvisibility.com/2021/08/29/an-internet-apocalypse-mi...
For a variety of reasons, undersea Internet cables are vulnerable to solar storm damage. Cables are installed with repeaters at intervals of 50 to 150 kilometers, depending on the cable, to keep data intact while it travels across seas. Like a relay throw in baseball, these devices enhance the optical signal to ensure that nothing is lost in route. While fiber optic cable is not directly affected by geomagnetically induced currents, the electrical internals of repeaters are, and a sufficient number of repeater failures will render an entire undersea cable useless.

SOZT
Although the warning in the study presented by Sangeetha Abdu Jyothi is focusing on undersea cables as the weak link in Internet Communications,
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue388.htm
it is land lines and satellite boosts that are in fact more vulnerable. Satellites are being bombarded by debris in the tail of Nibiru, and are subject directly to EMP blasts. Land lines also are as subject to EMP as mankind’s electrical grid, which suffers frequent blackouts. Why the emphasis on undersea cables, and why now?

Undersea cables have proved to be vulnerable during Plate Movements, pulled taut and then torn from their connections deep under the sea or where they emerge on coastlines to connect to land lines. This is of record in 2008 and 2011
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue275.htm
for the long cable SMW3 that went through the Mediterranean and around India. In advising our Emissary Nancy when selecting the ZetaTalk Mirror Sites, we stressed that a reach by land lines for every continent was desirable. But Jyothi’s warning is not based on the threat from Plate Movements.

This warning is to provide cover when the establishment wishes to slow down the Internet to control chatter it does not want the public to read. Claiming that the undersea cables are vulnerable to EMP, with scant evidence, the establishment could easily sabotage these cables by their connections, thus slowing down social media chatter on the Internet. As noted in her analysis, such disruption would affect more than just a single conversation. It would create a domino effect to disrupt the Internet altogether.
EOZT

Prior 2/12/2011 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/12fe2011.htm
The Internet was designed to avoid outages by having multiple routes from one point to another. If one server was down, or one city were experiencing earthquakes or electrical outages, traffic would simply be sent on a different route. Thus, if the undersea cables between Europe and N America were severed in the Atlantic, traffic would be routed via Asia and across the Pacific or satellite bounce would be used. This is by design.

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted from the ZT Followers:

Who are these reptilians?
[and from another]
https://t.me/ZetaTalk_Followers/4995
Ancient Japan, this is the pic from the Horyuji temple, Nara Japan. This temple was completed in 607 AD. The pic shows a statue of a reptilian looking creature sitting in a folded leg position. The temple was made to depict the healing power of Buddha. But why a reptilian?
[and from another]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C5%8Dry%C5%AB-ji
H?ry?-ji is a Buddhist temple that was once one of the powerful Seven Great Temples, in Ikaruga, Nara Prefecture, Japan. 
[and from another]
https://www.el-libertario.com/en/reptilian-gods-2/
Believe me, there are very many examples of representations of reptilian beings in the art of our ancestors, this is a result of their experiences, not of their imagination.

SOZT
As is known, roof edges turned upward in Asia are intended to turn evil spirits away. They are not allowed to land on the premises. Statues and drawing from the Horyuji temple show reverent snakes, dragons, militaristic dog commanders, and an aggressive human guardian. This was a lively temple! As we stated at the start of the ZetaTalk saga, the evolution of Service-to-Other souls
http://www.zetatalk.com/worlds/w10.htm
occurs in reptilians just as it does for warm blooded species. The inclusion of these reverent snake reptilians at the Horyuji temple shows that they were regarded as Buddhist masters, and highly Service-to-Other in their orientation.
EOZT

Prior 1995 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/worlds/w10.htm
Reptilian alien groups are somewhat cold-blooded, which does not relate to their orientation at all. There are cold-hearted humans, who are warm-blooded, and there are warm-hearted reptilians, who are primarily cold-blooded. Reptilian entities that humans may encounter may be Service-to-Others or Service-to-Self. However, as the reptilian genetics allow for less empathy, or telepathic awareness of others, which the Service-to-Self orientation finds distracting, reptilians most often are Service-to-Self.
There are numerous reptilians at work in the vicinity of Earth. Some of the forms are humanoid, with arms and hands with fingers and opposable thumbs and legs and feet with toes, eyes forward on the face, rather than facing to the side, and a bi-pedal stance. Others take the form of what you would call snakes, with some development of limbs in varying numbers. Others have forms similar to lizards, and walk on four or more legs, their bodies too stiff to allow a stance. These alien forms can rear up to perform functions, but essentially work at the floor level. 

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email: 

Could the zeta's quote the origins and what these disk shaped objects are? Many thanks.  
[and from another]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tungsten
Tungsten is found mainly in the minerals wolframite (iron–manganese tungstate (Fe,Mn)WO4, which is a solid solution of the two minerals ferberite FeWO4, and hübnerite MnWO4) and Scheelite (calcium 
tungstate (CaWO4). "Wolfram" (or "volfram") is used in most European (especially Germanic, Spanish and Slavic) languages and is derived from the mineral wolframite, which is the origin of the chemical symbol W. Polycrystalline tungsten is an intrinsically brittle and hard material making it difficult to work. However, pure single-crystalline tungsten is more ductile and can be cut with a hard-steel hacksaw.
[and from another]
Facts About Tungsten
November 18, 2016
https://www.livescience.com/38997-facts-about-tungsten.html
Tungsten is known as one of the toughest things found in nature. It is super dense and almost impossible to melt.   In 1783 they isolated the metal oxide from wolframite and then, unlike the others, reduced it to tungsten metal by heating it with carbon. The element naturally occurs in the minerals scheelite, wolframite, huebnertie and ferberite. It is harvested from the minerals by reducing tungsten oxide with hydrogen or carbon.
[and from another]
Researchers in Russia Find Dozens of Strange Disc-Shaped Objects Containing Tungsten
August 30, 2021
https://humansarefree.com/2021/08/researchers-in-russia-find-dozens...
Researchers in Volgograd have discovered over a dozen disk-shaped objects, including one which has over four meters in diameter. According to experts, these “Alien” disc-shaped rocks contain tungsten, a high-density metal used in military technology. The shape of the four-meter disc, which is extremely similar to modern-day interpretations of UFO’s has given UFO hunters and Ufologists a lot to talk about.

SOZT
In its natural form, Tungsten does not form a solid block but is found in various crystalline structures , mixed with other minerals. The 12 foot in diameter disc discovered in Volgograd is thus a smelted block, made pure and molded into a disc. Was it early man or visitors from the stars who mined and smelted these blocks? Aliens afar from their home planets may need to setup manufacturing sites to refurbish their space ships and there is no better metal than Tungsten. This Volgograd site, rich in various minerals, was used as a storage site after a smelting operation.
EOZT

[39mo185h7h7oi]

The New Madrid adjustment is the last major plate movement to occur within the 7 out of 10 plate movements. The Zetas have repeatedly stated the New Madrid adjustment will occur at the end of 2021 or by early 2022. That date is quickly approaching.

On November 2019, the Zetas estimated the New Madrid progression at 36% in completion. Then on December 2020, the Zetas gave another update and it was still 36%. The New Madrid adjustment was held off by the monoliths. What is that percentage now? Since the start of 2021 things have been accelerating and several 7 out of 10 plate movements have nearly completed. Can the Zetas give an update on the 7 out of 10 plate movements?

[Nancy Lieder]

This is in process. Wave#2 appears to have started on August 22 when the Pemex gas field had another explosion, and throbbing buoy in the Gulf. Most recent was the dropped land in Mississippi, not due to Ida for sure as winds do not drop the land like that and they had no water damage there. I am addressing the Wave#2 incidents in newsletter to publish week after next.  

You request for percentages is declines as this is very much in play. 

Kamil Rak said:

The New Madrid adjustment is the last major plate movement to occur within the 7 out of 10 plate movements.

[39mo185h7h7oi]

Planet 9 is back in the news. Are the Prongs back?

The astronomers are saying Planet 9 is closer than thought. It could lead to a "discovery" of this planet and they might call it Nibiru?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/planet-9-may-be-closer-an...

Is this push what the Zetas said last month when commenting on John Moore's revelations how astronomers would be primed to make reveals re Nibiru? Is more to come?

[Nancy Lieder]

Declined as it is just a hint, not a revelation. More to come. 

Kamil Rak said:

Planet 9 is back in the news. Are the Prongs back?

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email: 

I have read several times about “public persons” (radio/tv hosts) who have been talking critically about the whole Corona hoax and vaccines to public and then suddenly they have Corona and hospitalized/died. Are these people deliberately infected in order to get them ridiculed/made publicly examples NOT to talk against this agenda? Any comment from Zetas about this? This truly Stinks!
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 3rd conservative radio host who condemned vaccines dies of Covid
August 29, 2021
https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2021/08/29/3rd-conser...
 A conservative Florida radio host who spoke out against Covid-19 vaccines died after a weekslong fight with the virus, marking the third radio personality to die from coronavirus who publicly rejected vaccines. On Aug. 4, another Florida conservative radio host who had criticized the coronavirus vaccine, Dick Farrel, died from Covid-19 complications.  Last week, Phil Valentine, a 62-year-old conservative radio host in Nashville, Tenn., who had questioned the necessity of vaccines, also died from the virus.
[and from another]
https://phibetaiota.net/2021/08/roberts-condition-08-17-2021/
I survived!  I went in at 77 oxygenation.  I’m up to 94.  I will not take the vaccination, though I did test positive for whatever they’re calling “COVID” today, but the bottom line is that my lungs are not functioning.
[and from another]
https://phibetaiota.net/2021/09/in-memoriam-robert-david-steele/
Sadly Robert David Steele passed away on 28 August 2021 of COVID-19 pneumonia.
[and from another]
Former CIA Officer and Conspiracy Theorist who called Pandemic a Hoax Dies of Covid
August 31, 2021
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/qanon-anti-vaxxer...
A former CIA officer who claimed to be the first person to call Covid-19 a hoax, died from the disease after battling for life for nearly a month in a hospital. Robert David Steele, a veteran of the US marine corps and a QAnon supporter, promoted several conspiracy theories, including one that said Covid-19 was a hoax. He also promoted an anti-vaccination campaign.
[and from another]
Ex-CIA Officer and QAnon Promoter Dies of COVID
August 30, 2021
https://www.dailydot.com/debug/robert-david-steele-covid-death/
Steele had been hospitalized in Florida while traveling the country as part of his three-month-long Arise USA tour, where he shared conspiracy theories regarding the pandemic and the 2020 presidential election in all 50 states. Steele was also an early and long-time promoter of QAnon, the conspiracy theory that claims former President Donald Trump is engaged in a secret battle with a global cabal of child-eating pedophiles. Steele had been “forced” onto a ventilator and was refused access to hydroxychloroquine, an anti-malaria drug touted by conspiracy theorists as a cure for COVID.

SOZT
Robert Steele was a threat to the Satanist Cabal because of his stint in the CIA. Working at a managerial level, doing planning for a False Flag operation at one point, he was aware of a broad range of activities the CIA would like to keep from public view. He had recently become very visible on his ARISE USA tour, and available to the media. The Satanist Cabal wants the illegal Biden Administration to continue and Steele was pro-Trump. Steele also encouraged the use of HCQ and other anti-virals rather than the vax.

His voice was silenced less due to his anti-vax stance than for his knowledge of the many crimes the CIA had done in the past. The CIA used sex with young children for blackmail, and toppling Democratically elected leaders around the world was common. Steele was in Florida where the Delta variant of Covid-19 is currently running rampant so did catch this flu, but this was not what killed him. He was refused his request for HCQ and thus forced into a ventilator to get sufficient oxygen, so adding poison to his oxygen mix was an easy step.

That there is a pattern of conservative talk show hosts hospitalized and dying from Covid-19 is not surprising. The Satanist Cabal has as one of its goals continuing an endless lockdown, with forced vax. This allows them to control migration and increase the death count among what they refer to as useless eaters, a populace that would be demanding social services but being of little use to the elite. Steele’s murderers have already been eliminated, with our help, by the Junta. Being highly telepathic, if evil is in the mind of man, we know where it lies.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email: 

Is there something that is triggering the different covid reactions we see? Since our limited ability to study the effects on things would always be in question. But we do know sound frequencies have an effect on many things and could 5G trigger the immune system? Since we all know TPTB would not lie to us.
[and from another]
Is 5G Harmful to Humans
https://www.healthline.com/health/is-5g-harmful
5G works by producing a type of energy called electromagnetic radiation. It uses higher frequencies than previous wireless networks, making it faster and more efficient. Currently, there’s no solid evidence that 5G causes negative health effects in humans or animals. 
[and from another]
The Dangers of 5G – 11 Reasons to be Concerned
https://ecfsapi.fcc.gov/file/1053072081009/5G%20Radiation%20Dangers...
Thousands of studies link low-level wireless radio frequency radiation exposures to a long list of adverse biological effects, including: DNA single and double strand breaks, oxidative damage, disruption of cell metabolism, increased blood brain barrier permeability, melatonin reduction, disruption to brain glucose metabolism, and generation of stress proteins.
[and from another]
Radiation Health Risks
https://www.radiationhealthrisks.com/5g-cell-towers-dangerous/
5G Cell Towers are more dangerous than earlier cell tower generations because they expose us to a wider variety of RF Radiation frequencies. 

SOZT
When we addressed the safety of 5G technology in 2019, we stated that it would have a negative effect on human and animal health. That has never stopped mankind from what is called progress. As is known, even high voltage power lines carry dangers, with those living under them having a higher incidence of cancer. Does being subject to 5G radiation weaken the immune system? Without question. But for those who are using Covid-19 and its variants to force lockdowns and control migration, this is incidental. 5G was not invented nor implemented with this juncture in mind.
EOZT

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31ja2019.htm
Does 5G technology have a negative effect on human and animal health? Yes. Will this stop the rollout of this high speed internet traffic route from being implemented worldwide? No. Look at mankind’s history. The use of speeding missiles heading toward one another on roads when the dangers of head-on collisions are well known is so universal that almost every household owns one of those missiles. Yes, we are talking about cars. Devices that provide opportunity for occupants to fall thousands of feet to certain death would certainly seem dangerous, but the airline industry flourishes. The profit motive dominates in all these matters. There is no covert motive on the part of those pushing technology such as 5G, as all is seen as facilitating mankind’s quest to do more, see more, and at a faster pace. 5G will be implemented, though only the poor may be afflicted by the towers, sparing wealthy neighborhoods.

[Stanislav]

Hi Nancy and Zetas,

What's going on in China? Soros is not happy! And what did the Dark Judge mean? China under martial law?

George Soros: Investors in Xi’s China face a rude awakening

https://www.ft.com/content/ecf7de34-e595-4814-9cbd-4a5119187330

Meanwhile, Lehman's moment is drawing near for China:

China's "Lehman Moment" Approaching: Evergrande Warns Of Default Risk From Cash Crunch

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/chinas-lehman-moment-approaching-...

Thank you very much

[Nancy Lieder]

Stan, I check the Dark Judge daily but did not notice any Martial Law discussions re China. The quote you include is not dated. Can you send me a more direct link so I can see the context? Your article about China's real estate being shaky (will start to be everywhere soon) and Xi not being able to understand Western capitolist principles (China is after all a communist country) is nothing new and not surprising. If you expect the Zetas to give you a prospectus on China real estate, it won't happen. They think we should all be operating without money and using empathy instead of cash and credit.  

Stanislav said:

What's going on in China? Soros is not happy!