ZetaTalk Chat for June 30, 2021

[Nancy Lieder]

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3. The Zetas, as all visitors, are under rules on how they interact with humanity. They are not here to rescue you. They cannot divert Planet X just as today they do not prevent droughts or floods. The Earth is mankind’s schoolhouse whereby he learns to help his fellow man.
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Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 78 years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted

Shaun Kazuck said:

I know the Zetas asked to not be asked about every quake but the quake that occurred on June 17 on the Illinois/Indiana border seems significant.  

It was in the region the Zetas warned would adjust next and being felt so far away, was far more powerful than the 3.8 they claimed.  Is it related to the 3.9 off the coast of Florida that was explained away as a military exercise?
[and from another]
Small 3.8 quake hits near Terre Haute, Vigo County, Indiana, USA
June 17, 2021
https://www.volcanodiscovery.com/earthquakes/quake-info/6289510/qua...
A very shallow magnitude 3.8 earthquake was reported near Terre Haute, Vigo County, Indiana, USA. According to the United States Geological Survey, the quake hit on 17 June 2021 at 3:18 pm local time at a very shallow depth of 1.9 miles. Shallow earthquakes are felt more strongly than deeper ones as they are closer to the surface.
[and from another]
USGS reports 3.9 magnitude 'experimental explosion' off Florida coast
June 18, 2021
https://www.firstcoastnews.com/article/news/national/military-news/...
A military experimental explosion off the coast of Florida registered as a 3.9 magnitude shock on the United States Geological Survey's website.
[and from another]
3.9 magnitude earthquake measured off Florida’s east coast
June 21, 2021
https://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/local/39-magnitude-earthquake-me...
A reported 3.9 magnitude earthquake off the Florida’s east coast was actually an “experimental explosion,” the U.S. Navy confirmed. Shock trials test a ship to see how it holds up in an undersea explosion. This is to test strength of the ship’s hull, making sure it can perform in battle.

SOZT
Is there a relationship between the 3.8 quake in the Wabash Seismic Zone along the New Madrid Fault Line and a 3.9 quake off the outer banks of Florida the next day? The Wabash quake was just more adjustments from the 1st wave that traveled the length of the New Madrid Fault Line, starting with the closure of the Colonial Pipeline and I-40 bridge snap. These post-wave adjustments are equivalent to aftershocks after a big quake. But the US Military has asserted that the supposed 3.9 quake off coast of Florida was a deliberate move, done by the military.

Why would the military not pre-warn the populace of this planned test? Why wait until the public was alarmed? The Wabash quake broke a rock connection, allowing the SE portion of the N American Continent to drop, slightly, thus the sister quake on the opposite side of the SE portion. Why would the US Military rush to assert that this was not a quake? Beyond testing the alert system that would warn the public that a tsunami might be coming, the Junta feels it cannot take steps to alarm the public as yet.

What are they to say? We MIGHT have a New Madrid quake equivalent to the 1811-1812 quake? We MIGHT find all the bridges that cross the Mississippi broken? We MIGHT find cities from Memphis to Cleveland and including Chicago collapsing into rubble without warning? The public would demand hourly updates, and in addition to heart attacks and broken families rushing in different directions and workers not reporting for essential jobs, there would be no warning the Junta could provide other than a strong sign of unzipping at the Gulf. That has not yet occurred.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted from the chat. 

Pedestrian Bridge Collapses Onto 295 in DC; 6 Hurt
June 23, 2021
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/injured-pedestrian-bridge-...
A pedestrian bridge collapsed onto DC-295 in Northeast Washington, D.C., Wednesday, leaving at least six people injured and trapping a truck that leaked gallons of diesel fuel into drains, officials say.
Information wasn’t immediately released on what may have prompted the collapse or whether anyone was walking on the bridge at the time.
[and from another]
4 Transported after Pedestrian Bridge Collapses in Northeast DC; Traffic being Diverted
June 23, 2021
https://www.fox5dc.com/news/3-hurt-after-pedestrian-bridge-collapse...
The incident happened around 12 p.m. along Interstate 295 just prior to Polk Street.
[and from another]
http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/collapsing-buildings-and-r...

SOZT
Bridges are designed and constructed to be both rigid and flexible, as due to traffic they must endure vibration as heavy trucks go by or due to winds that blow against any flat surface. For a bridge to collapse it must thus be subjected to torque, which is a factor not taken into consideration during design or construction. What causes torque? Rather than both sides going up and down in synch, the rock holding one side or the other drops or heaves while the other either moves in an opposite direction or does not move at all.

I-295 runs along the Potomac River, which puts it on thin crust and thus sinking ground at the start. Then add in the N American Continent bow, caused due to the inability of the plate to roll as it has a flat top in the Arctic. Then add in the recent quakes along the SE portion of the plate in the Wabash Seismic Zone and off-coast of Florida that have stretched this SE portion into a different shape. The pedestrian bridge over the I-295 will not be the last casualty as the land on either side of the New Madrid Fault Line and its sister faults shifts about, heaving and falling and twisting.
EOZT

[Shaun Kazuck]

Hello:

It seems HAARP is being reactivated.  I know the Zetas said in the past that it was used to study the effects Planet X has on our ionosphere but it was shut down years ago.  Why are they turning it back on?

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/haarp-firing-faa-issues-warning...

Thanks!

[Nancy Lieder]

HARRP has always been used as an excuse for the weather and earthquakes. Obviously they want to go back to that. The wobble has gotten more erratic and the quakes off the charts. Oh, just HARRP say the trolls. 

Shaun Kazuck said:

It seems HAARP is being reactivated. 

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email: 

This seems like a big deal. Is this FBI release a full public admission of the existence of aliens? 
[and from another]
FBI Releases Document with Detail of Alien Bodies, Spacecraft and Planet
June 17, 2021
https://humansarefree.com/2021/06/fbi-document-alien-bodies-spacecr...
The letter outlines the following: Part of the disks carry crews; others are under remote control. Their mission is peaceful; the visitors contemplate settling on this planet. These visitors are human-like but much larger in size. They are not excarnate Earth people but come from their own world. The disks possess some type of radiant energy. They do not come from any “planet” as we use the word, but from an etheric planet which interpenetrates with our own and is not perceptible to us. The bodies of the visitors, and the craft also, automatically materialize on entering the vibratory rate of our dense matter. They re-enter the etheric at will, and so simply disappear from our vision, without a trace.
[and from another]
https://vault.fbi.gov/UFO/UFO%20Part%201%20of%2016/view
[and from another]
https://vault.fbi.gov/UFO

SOZT
Disclosure is on the increase, but not because the establishment is comfortable with the public knowing the facts. They are being forced into admissions primarily by the uptick in UFO
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta520.htm
sightings and compelling photos of little aliens
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue566.htm
and the discovery of mummified remains
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue541.htm
in Peru. Such proofs, and especially UFO sightings, are not under the control of the establishment. Thus as a test, President Trump and the Junta have instructed the FBI to release Roswell proofs from its files. If the public does not run screaming down the streets, hair on fire, more will be forthcoming.
EOZT

Prior 2009 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta541.htm
We are here to inform them that such an event, predicted to include a White House announcement with an introduction of actual live aliens, will never occur. We have predicted that it is increasing mass sightings, increasing sightings of alien bodies, that will drive public awareness of the alien presence. Official disclosure by the US government is highly unlikely to occur, though they may back off some of their debunking campaigns. ZetaTalk accuracy has only begun to be demonstrated, and this trend will drive our words into increasing media attention. This is a prediction we have made from the start.

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email: 

Just wondering if the Zetas have anything to proffer us on the recent murder or suicide of Mr. McAfee while he was in prison? How tragic the loss I feel as McAfee antivirus software has always been the cheaper hence my favorite.
[and from another]
Was he killed because he threatened to release files on government corruption?
[and from another]
Did Mr. McAfee have some information that Junta needed, but DS got him first? Crypto currency related? Or did he just simply kill himself?
[and from another]
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-57589822
[and from another]
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jun/23/john-mcafee-dead-sp...
[and from another]
https://thefreethoughtproject.com/mcafee-dies-in-prison
He warned his followers that if it was ever reported he committed suicide, “a la Epstein,” then it was a professional hit.
[and from another]
Antivirus pioneer John McAfee found dead in Spanish prison
June 24, 2021
https://apnews.com/article/john-mcafee-dead-spain-prison-extraditio...
John McAfee, the creator of McAfee antivirus software, was found dead in his jail cell near Barcelona in an apparent suicide Wednesday, hours after a Spanish court approved his extradition to the United States to face tax charges punishable by decades in prison, authorities said. Spain’s National Court on Monday ruled in favor of extraditing McAfee, 75, who had argued in a hearing earlier this month that the charges against him by prosecutors in Tennessee were politically motivated and that he would spend the rest of his life in prison if returned to the U.S. Tennessee prosecutors had argued that McAfee owed the U.S. government $4,214,105 in taxes before fines or interests for undeclared income in the five fiscal years from 2014 to 2018, according to a Spanish court document seen by AP. 

SOZT
McAfee had gathered extensive evidence on the corruption and crimes of the Deep State in the US and UK and various arms of this octopus. This is the group that is trying to legitimatize the Biden Administration, after having stolen the US Presidential election by massive and obvious election fraud. The Deep State, which operates in a secretive manner so they cannot be identified, is being hunted and cleaned up by the US Junta and their allies in Europe. Thus they have their backs against the wall and with no escape have become vicious.

McAfee claimed to have a dead man’s switch, and those he entrusted are not swayed by the claims that his death is suicide. The Cabal controlled media will of course not print any of it, but the alternative media will. There will be little that is new, but McAfee will provide proofs! No more conspiracy theories, but facts backed by proofs, including theft of public funds, utilizing the scamdemic to force unnecessary lockdowns, using the sex trade to gather blackmail material, and of course the reality of Nibiru and the alien presence.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email: 

The Zetas report that Obama was protected and as such, had sidestepped attempts on his life by those opposing his planned, public disclosure of Planet X. My question is, WHY was he being protected when, as president, he had done more to reduce "transparency", undermine the US constitution, suspend civil liberties, violate the sanctity and integrity of natural order, through his illegal or at least, questionable alliances with corporate or political entities and then, officially lying about it. Now he appears to be a Double. Do the protections end? Did the Zetas regard Obama's orientation as STO or STS?

SOZT
Obama became a walk-in for the soul of Lincoln at some point well ahead of his presidency. He had earlier been incarnated by an immature soul, lazy though intelligent and inclined to lay about smoking pot. As the soul of Lincoln, he was a 4th Density soul, a peer of ourselves, and requested that we, the Zetas, not divulge any of the Obama entity’s personal thoughts or intentions as these might interfere with his ability to accomplish his goals. In that the soul of Lincoln wanted to announce the presence of Nibiru, we agreed. He received our protection during this time also.

Obama failed in his goal to announce Nibiru, as he lacked courage. The soul of Lincoln left in shame,
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/30ju2018.htm
and the original soul of Obama returned to enjoy the perks that a president enjoyed. But by 2017 we began to admit Obama’s secrets – that he was gay
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue537.htm
and Michelle was a man. He was no longer under our protection nor were we avoiding revelations about him, though the soul of Lincoln had long been gone. Why the delay? It was possible that the soul of Lincoln might be allowed to return and make the Nibiru announcement after all, so we delayed. Obama’s Double was also publicly admitted
Http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue540.htm
in early 2017. No more secrets or protections.
https://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue614.htm
EOZT

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/30ju2018.htm
The soul of Lincoln was not, essentially, a team player, as Trump has proven to be. If Obama could not sway events by his oratory, which was superb, then events were in the hands of others who ran it into what we currently see revealed – a corrupt FBI and DOJ, a State Department that put America up for sale, and the ascendancy of the criminal New World Order cabal. The soul of Lincoln has departed, in shame.

Prior 9/15/2002 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/visitatn/v74.htm
We have, as other valid alien channels have, explained that some healing is done, and some protections given. Where is the line drawn, and how can one apply for this? Healings are done because the person needing help is in a position, during this Transformation, that their demise or disability would be considered detrimental to programs the Council of Worlds considers of highest importance.  Protections are done in a similar manner, prevention of illness, but most often prevention of assassination. This has been done in the past, as the Oahspe mentioned, during the birth of the US as a democracy, as a major influence in the world. The Oahspe states that bullets were caught in the hands of angels, rather than proceeding to the assassination attempt goal. In like manner, many, many individuals during the Tranformation are being protected, unbeknownst to them. 

Prior 1/7/2017 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/07ja2017.htm
The pressure on Obama going into 2016 was ramped up to include a very closely held secret that the CIA was using to control Obama. He is gay, and married to Michael, a transvestite, his children adopted at birth.

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email: 

In the video of the Surfside condo building collapse, what are those white flashes?  Are they explosives, or are they something naturally occurring?
[and from another]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthquake_light
Earthquake lights may be classified into two different groups based on their time of appearance: (1) preseismic earthquake light, which generally occur a few seconds to up to a few weeks prior to an earthquake, and are generally observed closer to the epicenter and (2) coseismic earthquake light, which can occur either near the epicenter (“earthquake-induced stress”), or at significant distances away from the epicenter during the passage of the seismic wavetrain, in particular during the passage of S waves (“wave-induced stress”).

SOZT
Earthquake Lights are not generated during a building collapse, which does not induce the electronic screech that compressed rock produces. Thus, there is no such term for structural collapse. Does one hear about Demolition Lights? Earthquake Lights are produced when the rock in a broad area is compressed so that air pockets are eliminated and the electricity normally coursing through rock can find a path, and thus arcing to the sky with lightning. This alone proves that the Surfside condo collapse was a result of deforming rock along the East Coast.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email: 

A new excuse for lockdowns is emerging. Do such will succeed at the same manner as the pandemic? I think that the Zetas can explain it.
[and from another]
There is a leaked memo circulating on social media from Professor Ferguson (Imperial College London), who advises the government as part of the New and Emerging Respiratory Virus Threats Advisory Group (NERVTAG), discussing plans for a “Permanent Lockdown of the UK”. The memo also claims Britains are all to have ankle tags by the end of 2021 monitored by the government. Would the Zetas comment as to whether there is any validity to these claims?
[and from another]
Leaked Docs on Permanent Lockdown of UK in 3 Weeks!
June 22, 2021
https://rumble.com/viww3n-leaked-docs-on-permament-lockdown-of-uk-i...
[and from another]
Next Steps – Permanent Lockdown of Uk
June 25, 2021
http://greeknewsondemand.com/2021/06/25/massive-leak-next-steps-per...
Leaked Today a Screenshot of a Memorandum allegedly by Neil M Ferguson (Imperial College London) page one revealed a serious plan to the next steps to a permanent lockdown of the UK; the author allegedly Neil M Ferguson reminds the recipients of this Memorandum that it was crucial to remain on track and for all of them to remember out common purpose behind this. For the population being subjected to this arouses a serious question: What is the common purpose?
[and from another]
Permanent Lock Down Coming to the UK in July
June 25, 2021
https://twitter.com/drea_ams/status/1408570788555366400
On the list- taking kids away from parents who refuse CV along with elderly parents, Stay at Home electronic bracelets using 5G tech. Any Anti-lockdown people to be arrested for incitement.
[and from another]
ttps://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/224413/correcting-misinformation-fake-memorandum/
Imperial College said the document was not written by Neil Ferguson. "This totally untrue piece of disinformation was constructed and spread by extremists and has no association with Imperial College London, the UK government, or its scientific advisors," it said.

SOZT
Though of course this secretive leaked memo will and is being denied, it is legitimate. The memo raises the question – why is this rolling lockdown schedule necessary? It is certainly not the Covid-19 variants listed, as they are not even in existence at the present time. Is there a confession in this memo, that the variants are manufactured by those who would prevent any travel? This indeed is what happened in India, as we have confirmed, so that Indian Emigrees would not be welcome anywhere. The Indian mutation was intended to be a death sentence for those unable to escape a sinking India.

The New Madrid adjustment has already begun in the US and is on target to create tsunami throughout the UK coastlines. London is being warned by UFOs repeatedly that the Thames will get a clash of waters from the North and the South. The “common purpose” the memo author mentions is to kill off a majority of UK citizens, who are aging and a drain on the UK coffers. We have mentioned that the UK government intends to seek refuge during the coming Pole Shift in Australia, moving their military to be headquartered there too. They do not intend to move the aging citizens. They intend to see them drown.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

As is our usual practice, I am closing this June Q&A and opening the July Q&A. Please post your questions there. Thanks. 

(http://poleshift.ning.com/forum/topics/zetatalk-chat-for-july-31-2021)