ZetaTalk Chat for May 31, 2021

[Nancy Lieder]

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Zeta Rules that Apply

1. No personal counseling is done.This rule has been in place since 1996. Questions should be of broad interest to the general public.
2. Correlation or resolution of ZetaTalk with the work of other channels or authors is not done unless they predict and have a prediction accuracy track record, as otherwise they are not a peer of ZetaTalk which does so. This rule has been in place since 2002. Just because another website or author makes a statement does not make that statement true, nor will the Zetas explain to you why their statements are not true, as then they are taking time out to address the issue.
3. The Zetas, as all visitors, are under rules on how they interact with humanity. They are not here to rescue you. They cannot divert Planet X just as today they do not prevent droughts or floods. The Earth is mankind’s schoolhouse whereby he learns to help his fellow man.
4. The date of the pole shift cannot be given, but the sequence of events can be given. [ Link ] Check the ning pinned discussions and blogs for such information as the 7 of 10, the last weeks, etc.

Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 78 years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

[Nancy Lieder]

Those are not UFO! Not bright enough. They are burning and slowly dropping and dissipating Petrols! 

Rustam said:

In Kyrgyzstan UFO appears very seldom

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email: 

What is the fascination with the year 2023 being the year of the Pole Shift? Who espouses this?
[and from another]
UN New World Order Is Pope’s Road to Supremacy; Daniel 3 Image Is UN Image-Beast in Rev 13:14
December 8, 2020
https://beforeitsnews.com/new-world-order/2020/12/un-new-world-orde...
“The day of the Lord” comes in the context of four generations in Joel 1:3,4,15. A generation is 40 years in Hebrews 3:9,10. Four generations are 4 x 40 — 160 years. From Lincoln’s Emancipation 160 years from 1863 is 2023.
[and from another]
2020 – 2022 NOSTRADAMUS PROPHECY — A NIGHTMARE WORLD
September 1, 2020
https://beforeitsnews.com/prophecy/2020/09/2020-2022-nostradamus-pr...
All of these events will supposedly set up conditions for the Antichrist to take over the world by 2020, but 2023 Jesus’ second coming will allegedly end it all.”
[and from another]
If The World Doesn't End In 2012, Watch Out For 2023 And 2026
Nov 6, 2011
https://www.businessinsider.com/if-the-world-doesnt-end-in-2012-wat...
2023 Armageddon: Biblical scholar Ian Gurney wrote The Cassandra Prophecy: Armageddon Approaches in 1999. He claims that Judgement Day will come in “less than 25 years”. He comes to this conclusion through interpretations of the book of Revelation and of the Daniel story and some other Biblical prophesies. A fan of Gurney’s book puts together this summary on the Canada Free Press. It may or may not leave you wiser.
[and from another]
'Big One' in So. Calif Not Due Till 2023; Dr. Richard Ruhling Provides a Biblical Basis
Jul 18, 2019
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/big-one-in-so-calif-not-du...
California may be nervous with earthquakes, but the 'Big One" isn't due till 2023, says Dr. Richard Ruhling, author on current events and Bible prophecy, and the recently published book, Not Left Behind.  The prophet Isaiah said God declares the end from the beginning. In the book of beginnings, Pharaoh had two dreams interpreted to mean 7 good years followed by 7 years of famine, Genesis 41. Like him or not, since President Trump was elected, the economy has been better, but I expect the bad years after the next sabbatical year of 2022.

SOZT
There are many predictions, primarily based on Bible interpretation, that claim that the Pole Shift will happen in 2023. This seems to run contrary to the Tibetan Buddhist Master’s text, made 100 years ago, that it would happen in 2026. We have confirmed that the Master’s text was accurate when made, but that many factors could intervene to speed up or slow down the timeline. Many eyes are watching the trajectory of Nibiru and trying to compute the moment of the Passage, but the factors that will influence this are primarily outside of mankind’s ability to track.

What are these factors? We mentioned the Repulsion Force as a factor, but mankind today does not have any math that can compute just when this causes two bodies to push against each other. The exercise that Nancy did on sci.astro
http://www.zetatalk.com/usenet/use00992.htm
years ago to have mathematicians there put Newton’s Centrifugal Force equation together with Einstein’s gravity equation showed that. These two laws cannot be put in the same room together! Mankind is also not factoring in the magnetic interaction Nibiru has with the Sun, forcing it into opposition alignment.
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta593.htm

The leap back toward the Sun that Nibiru will take when this magnetic roll into opposition occurs is not sudden. There is dithering going on as magnetic fields can clash or merge, with their core bodies pushing apart or pulling together. Are mankind’s measurements of the magnetic fields of the planets so reliable that they can compute when a dither is moving into a threshold point? The Dark Twin is approaching the Earth in their shared orbit, this may dither there too, being flung back and trying repeatedly to pass the Earth by slipping behind the Earth. Dithers are difficult to predict.

Then there is the issue of whether the delays the Council of Worlds inserted will delay, or perhaps even accelerate, the passage. We confirmed when the Humming Boxes
http://www.zetatalk.com/7of10/7of10108.htm
were discovered that their intent was to delay the 7 of 10 Plate Movements. Likewise for the Monoliths. What this means is that the Plate Movements will be hurried, overlap and happen all at once, but will NOT be delayed. Many intuitively sense that 2023 seems a more likely date, but they are listening to the debate and not factoring in the dither into the ZetaTalk Triangle.
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta271.htm
We hold with our statement that 2026 as a guesstimate has validity.
EOZT

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/28fe2021.htm
What then is to be made of a Buddhist Master’s text, stating in no uncertain terms the likely date of the Pole Shift is 2026? This was correct when written, almost a century ago, but the celestial clock has many forces to consider and the passage can speed up or slow down, depending upon many factors.

Prior 12/15/2012 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta593.htm
We have stated that Planet X comes close, then retreats, then comes close again as the Last Weeks approach. It is forced to throw its S Pole upward, going into opposition along the Sun's magnetic flow lines above the Ecliptic. When Planet X itself goes into opposition, it is snapped back closer to the Sun, as it is now not resisting the N Pole of the Sun, and can tolerate the stronger flow of magnetons in the field closer to the Sun. Magnetic fields both push away and draw bodies closer, so this should not be an astonishing fact.

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email: 

Would the Zetas care to comment on the shutdown of the Largest Gasoline pipeline in the US? They say it is because a cyberattack. Is it in preparation for the New Madrid or the reason given is true?
[and from another]
Cyberattack Forces Shutdown of Largest Gasoline Pipeline in United States
May 9, 2021
https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/cyberattack-forces-shutdown-larges...
The largest gasoline pipeline on the East Coast, and the US in general, was shut down after its operator struggled to contain a cyberattack which threatened its systems. The 5,500-mile Colonial Pipeline, which is the single largest refined-products pipeline in the United States, halted transit as the company was forced to take "certain systems offline to contain the threat.
[and from another]
Cyber Attack Shuts Down Largest US Gasoline Pipeline – 45% of East Coast and Southern Regions
May 8, 2021
https://americanmilitarynews.com/2021/05/cyber-attack-shuts-down-la...
Colonial Pipeline operates the largest gasoline and diesel pipeline system in the U.S. The company transports 2.5 million barrels of gasoline, diesel, jet fuel and other refined products every day, accounting for about 45 percent of the east coast’s fuel supply. That fuel passes through 5,500 miles of pipelines. The pipeline network moves fuel from U.S. gulf coast refineries to populous areas along the eastern and southern United States.
[and from another]
Cyber Attack Shuts Down Top U.S. Fuel Pipeline Network
May 8, 2021
https://news.trust.org/item/20210508152642-o9z7n
Top U.S. fuel pipeline operator Colonial Pipeline has shut its entire network, the source of nearly half of the U.S. East Coast's fuel supply. Colonial did not give further details or say how long its pipelines would be shut. 

SOZT
Excuses will be made but the Colonial closure is not about terrorism nor ransom demands. We have long warned that the oil and gas distribution in the US in the pipelines across the Mississippi River
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue653.htm
were vulnerable to the New Madrid Fault line rupture. The US Junta monitors the tension in the N American Plate intensely, and they are not about to allow these pipelines to rupture and create a gas spill and likely a massive inferno. We predict that the ransom demands will force other distribution routes, and the Colonial closure will become permanent.
EOZT

Prior 2006 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta313.htm
What does this do to the N. American plate? It pulls it at a diagonal, ripping the rock fingers along the New Madrid fault such that the land to the East of the Mississippi moves up and to the East, toward New England, and the land to the West of the Mississippi moves down and to the West. This does more than tear most of the bridges along the Mississippi.

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email: 

This is taken from an article in Popular Mechanics. What can the Zetas tell us about these "mushrooms"?
[and from another]
Scientists Believe These Photos Show Mushrooms on Mars
https://www.popularmechanics.com/space/moon-mars/a36356445/mushroom...
The scientists point to a set of Opportunity photos that shows nine spheres increasing in size, and an additional 12 spheres emerging from beneath the soil, over a 3-day sequence. The researchers claim Martian wind didn't uncover the amorphous spheres, and that they "expand in size, or conversely, change shape, move to new locations, and/or wane in size and nearly disappear."

SOZT
Despite photographic proof
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue649.htm
that Mars had surface water in the past, and has an atmosphere with living creatures at present, NASA has continued its ludicrous assertion that Mars is barren. Photo captures of scampering mice, goat skulls, hawks, and an Annunaki doll – all remnants of the Annunaki occupation
http://www.zetatalk.com/worlds/w09.htm
in the past – are denied by NASA. Now a group of scientists have laid out the argument with documented Puff Ball growth and a comparison to puff balls on Earth. NASA will again play dumb, but the public can hardly be fooled.
EOZT

Prior 1995 ZT:  
http://www.zetatalk.com/worlds/w09.htm
Mars met its demise as a result of visitors from Nibiru, who set up mining operations on Mars in preference to Earth where large carnivorous mammals roamed about in great numbers. Where the atmosphere on Mars was thin, it was ample, so the visitors set about using what water resources they could muster to wash the ore they were after. In so doing they sought to control the run-off on the relatively flat surface of Mars, and did so in a thoughtless manner by directing waste water down a culvert. Thus precious water increasingly was sent underground, and a chain of events was set in motion that could not be reversed. The surface of Mars cooled as the atmosphere thinned.

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted because of significance: 

Right on the New Madrid.
[and from another]
I-40 Bridge over Mississippi River remains Closed after Structural Crack Discovered
May 12, 2021
https://www.fox13memphis.com/news/local/heads-up-drivers-i-40-bridg...
The I-40 bridge has been shut down indefinitely. The bridge is closed because of a structural infrastructure crack in the bridge. The crack was found in the “bottom side of the bridge truss” or support beam.
[and from another]
I-40 Span over Mississippi River Shut after Crack Found
May 11, 2021
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/40-span-mississippi-river-shut-...
The Arkansas Department of Transportation tweeted that it found the crack during a routine inspection of the bridge over the Mississippi River into Memphis, Tennessee. River traffic was also shut down until further notice.

SOZT
It is no coincidence that the I-40 was forced to close just 3 days after the Colonial Pipeline was forced to close. We predicted that the New Madrid Fault Line would start unzipping in the Gulf, near New Orleans, and thence proceed up the Mississippi. The Junta closely monitors the angle of alignment between both banks of the Mississippi to determine motion, and noted a torque or twist. The metal and concrete in bridges and pipelines cannot tolerate this before snapping or leaking, thus the Colonial was closed where it crosses at Alabama. Not 3 days later the I-40 at Memphis and Arkansas was cracking. This process will not abate.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email: 

Finally, is Mr MBB admitting?
[and from another]
Looked like a B I G Planet behind the Sun!
May 12, 2021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0gP7iUgpZ8&t=324s

SOZT
What the reluctant Mr MBB333 has discovered in the SOHO image appears to be a planet as large as Venus on the edge of the Sun or slightly behind the Sun. Though Venus is supposed to be well to the West in its expected orbit, it is caught in the eddy flow of particles coming round behind Nibiru and thus has been moved back and forth in front of the Sun to simulate an orbit in accordance with the Element of Doubt rule. Venus is not far to the West at present but clustered close by with the Dark Twin and Earth.

Why does this object appear to be caught in the flames of the Sun’s Corona if it is not perched upon the edge of the Sun? The perfectly circular sphere of Venus is only possible because what SOHO sees is 2D, without depth. And the SOHO images are composites, especially at this time when Nibiru must be air brushed out of the images. This is an automated process. Some portions of an image may be allowed to create authenticity, and the Sun is captured on film by many amateurs.

It is primarily the objects closer to Earth that are excluded – where Nibiru would be found or slinging up to the left where the moon laden tail would be found. These regions are primarily replaced by older SOHO images. But this Venus is not far enough to the left to be replaced in the composite. First the upper quadrants as they are today are put in place. Then the lower quadrants from older SOHO images are put in place. Then the Sun with its Corona. NASA will invent a Solar Flare to explain this stumble, and the cover-up over Nibiru lives on.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted from ZT Followers discussion.

Pic taken by Edmonton, Alberta (Kyle Duncan), Canada. Photos: Katjami ErosEa. May 13, 2021. Now do you all see the other cloaked ship just above it?
[and from another]
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=288359666258015&set=a.11173...

SOZT
We have confirmed in the past that Motherships can be cloaked in clouds,
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue177.htm
by several means. Light can be bent around the Mothership so that it simply disappears from view. When assisted in this cloaking by clouds, a punch hole in the clouds can appear when the Mothership leaves, and the Mothership may be temporarily visible when the process of bending light around the sides of the ship is stopped. The clue that this is what the Edmonton photo captured is the uneven outline standing behind the clouds. The edges of the ship are visible when the cloud is absent, but hidden when the cloud is thick.
EOZT

Prior 2007 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta361.htm
The recent evacuation of a mothership or large ship, which was there, but concealed by the bending of light rays around the ship. Once the ship leaves, on a cloudy day, the hole in the clouds is at first apparent!

Prior 2007 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta351.htm
We can also bend light rays to mask our motherships in the sky, and insert hypnotic suggestion in the minds of others in the vicinity so they think they are seeing people, when in fact they are seeing Zetas.

[Nancy Lieder]

I want to share my private chats with the Zetas re what to expect next along the New Madrid Fault Line.

SOZT
May 2, 2021: We said months, not years, but now we say weeks, not months. The New Madrid will start unzipping at the Gulf, then up the Mississippi River. Then following this first wave, another, further up the Mississippi and then higher up along the Fault. Bridges will be ripped and cities devastated. By the end of the year, duck and cover. 
May 16, 2021: As we said on May 2, weeks not months, and this implied less than two months. What will proceed beyond the I-40 snap caused by a dropped elevation in Arkansas? Hard rock jolts in Indiana and Illinois, as the pulling away to the West in Illinois will release the land in Indiana, which will jolt in sympathy. Meanwhile a second wave will proceed up from the Gulf, this time tearing some bridges. This will be an iterative pattern. 
EOZT

[39mo185h7h7oi]

Thank you Nancy and the Zetas. The New Madrid adjustment is at hand. I am braced for it. I have a question to the Zetas. How will New York City fare after the tsunami assaults the East coast? Thank you.

[Nancy Lieder]

This is expected to be a 50 foot tsunami, top to bottom. They did not do well with a 12 foot storm surge during Hurricane Sandy. Subways were flooded, electrical outage. 

http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue546.htm

Kamil Rak said:

Thank you Nancy and the Zetas. The New Madrid adjustment is at hand. I am braced for it. I have a question to the Zetas. How will New York City fare after the tsunami assaults the East coast? Thank you.

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email: 

I'm reading all over that ransom was paid by Colonial and now they are getting up and running again, right before the Madrid?
[and from another]
Pipeline Hack Update: Colonial Reopens across the Map, Ransomware Payment
May 15, 2021
https://www.cnet.com/news/pipeline-hack-update-colonial-reopens-acr...
Colonial Pipeline, which shut down after a ransomware attack last week, said its entire system had resumed normal operations, a development that will help relieve concerns of a gas shortage along the East Coast of the US.

SOZT
During the week that Colonial Pipeline was shut down, alternative means of porting oil and gas across the Mississippi were slipped into place. The Pipeline crossed the Mississippi River at the Gulf, so utilizing boats to port the product to the East side of the Mississippi River was feasible. More control over the flow was established, thus reports of communication problems. The petrol dependent East Coast was in a panic, even putting gasoline in clear plastic bags in the trunks of their cars. This partial shutdown is considered the lesser of evils at this point.
EOZT

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31ma2021.htm
The US Junta monitors the tension in the N American Plate intensely, and they are not about to allow these pipelines to rupture and create a gas spill and likely a massive inferno. We predict that the ransom demands will force other distribution routes, and the Colonial closer will become permanent.

[Carlos Villa]

Hello Nancy. Do the zetas have any recommendations for those who get covid but are unable to or can not afford proper medical attention? Are there home remedies available to the common man which are effective in treating this illness?