ZetaTalk Chat for May 31, 2018

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Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 70 [73] years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

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Permalink Reply by Nancy Lieder on May 17, 2018 at 2:16pm

Accepted via email:

Pope Francis might be retiring. Could his decision to retire early be linked with the impending announcement re Nibiru? What do Zetas say?
[and from another]
https://nypost.com/2018/05/15/pope-francis-hints-he-may-retire/
Pope Francis says he has thought about when it might be time to “take leave” of his flock. Francis made the comment during his morning homily Tuesday [May15]; the Vatican didn’t release the full text. Francis was reflecting on St. Paul discerning when to leave his flock in the care of others, a decision Francis said all bishops must make. Francis may have also been referring to Chilean bishops implicated in a sex abuse cover-up scandal.
[and from another]
https://nypost.com/2018/01/16/pope-francis-under-pressure-to-confro...
Pope Francis will be under pressure to confront a priest sex abuse scandal during his first full day in Chile, an Andean nation where the majority identifies as Roman Catholic but strong currents of skepticism and even contempt for the church are increasingly present. Many Chileans are still furious over his 2015 decision to appoint a bishop close to the Rev. Fernando Karadima, a priest found guilty by the Vatican in 2011 of abusing dozens of minors over decades.
[and from another]
https://qanon.pub/
Apr 3 2018 19:45:50 (EST)
[Pope] will be having a terrible May.
Those who backed him will be pushed into the LIGHT>
Dark to LIGHT.
TRUTH.
Q

SOZT
Once again the enigmatic Q shows his insights and accuracy. It is May, and the Pope is murmuring about resigning. It was early April that Q predicted a “terrible May” for the Pope. What would the issue be? The rampant pedophilia in the Catholic church was in the past hidden from the public as the Church threatened the victims and paid them for silence. Then there was a period of time where these practices were exposed in the media, with many priests being expelled. Past practices haunt those still in charge of the Church, and even the innocent are tainted by what others have done.
EOZT

Permalink Reply by Nancy Lieder on May 17, 2018 at 3:09pm

Accepted via email:

Strange Energy Pulse traversed America in 21 minutes! What was it?
[and from another]
https://youtu.be/FTxFQHPTP3g
[and from another]
https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2018/05/14/strange-energy-pulse-tr...
According to a YouTuber who calls himself MrMBB333, seismographs show that beginning at around 2:48 AM on Saturday, May 12, 2018, a wave of energy went from America’s east coast to the west coast in 21 minutes.
[and from another]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Uzl0T1lfZI&feature=youtu.be
Published on May 16, 2018

SOZT
Mankind is aware that plate borders, sliding over or under each other or slip-sliding in different directions, can cause earthquakes - the jolts and shaking that bring down mankind’s structures or rips the ground apart. The booms from snapping rock or clapping air have likewise become familiar, as have huge crevasses appearing suddenly in hardened desert soil. Can the pressure that rips rock also simply nudge the entire plate? Yes. This is what was recorded by the observant Mr MBB333 on May 12.
EOZT

Permalink Reply by Stanislav on May 17, 2018 at 3:48pm

Hi Nancy and Zetas,

Since the beginning of the ZetaTalk saga, the Zetas described the banking system as villain number 1.

While all media are discussing the Middle East. The risk of a real revolution in the country of banks in Switzerland. This is called as Vollgeld Initiative. Any comments

Although even in this case the problem will not disappear because central banks also inflate the bubble:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-06/problem-emerges-central-b...

9 May, 2018. Switzerland is about to vote on whether to send its financial system back to the Dark Ages in a referendum to ban banks from creating money

A referendum in the small European nation of Switzerland could change the entire face of global banking, if the result goes the way of a campaign group known as the Vollgeld Initiative.

In June, a vote will be held to ask Swiss citizens if they back the introduction of a concept known as the sovereign money initiative. The initiative, if implemented, could lead to a seismic shift in the way Switzerland runs its economy, and possibly send ripples through other economies around the world.
<...>
Under the proposals put forward by the Vollgeld Initiative, all deposits made to regular banks in Swiss francs would not be placed on their balance sheets, but instead held by the Swiss National Bank, Switzerland's central bank. "The Swiss National Bank alone will be able to create electronic money," the Vollgeld Initiative says in a paper explaining its proposed reforms.

"Banks won’t be able to create money for themselves any more, they’ll only be able to lend money that they have from savers or other banks, or even, if necessary, money that the Swiss National Bank has provided them."

The Vollgeld Initiative's main argument for such a system is that it would reduce the level of systemic financial risk in a country heavily dependent on its banking system. They tout the benefits of governments never having to bail out banks again.

Here's their full justification for the policy (emphasis ours):

"Sovereign money in a bank account is completely safe because it is central bank money. It does not disappear when a bank goes bankrupt. Finance bubbles will be avoided because the banks won’t be able to create money any more. The state will be freed from being a hostage, because the banks won’t need to be rescued with taxpayers’ money to keep the whole money-transaction system afloat i.e. the “too big to fail” problem disappears. The financial industry will go back to serving the real economy and society. The money and banking systems will no longer be shrouded in complexity, but will be transparent and understandable."

http://uk.businessinsider.com/switzerland-referendum-on-banking-cha...

14 May. 2018. The "Vollgeld Initiative" - Switzerland's 'Once-In-A-Lifetime' Chance To Save The World

It’s called “Vollgeld Initiative” – in German, meaning more or less “Referendum for Sovereign Money”. What is “Sovereign Money”? – Its money produced only by the Central Bank, by the “Sovereign”, the government, represented by its central bank. Money created in accordance with the needs of the economy, as contrasted to the profit and greed motives of the banking oligarchy – what it is today; money creation at will, by private banking.
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Lying is a felony, hence Mr. Sergio Ermotti, CEO of UBS, should be prosecuted. Unlikely to happen, though. What Mr. Ermotti in essence says in this interview is that loans are backed by deposits. This is directly contradicted by the Swiss National Bank and the German Bundesbank (Central Bank). They say that “today about 90% of all the money is accounting money, created by loans the banks make to enterprises and private citizens. Pretending that banks use deposits to make loans, is not true.” The latter part was specifically expressed by the German Bundesbank. – So, how come Mr. Ermotti, CEO of UBS, wouldn’t know that?

Switzerland, fully embedded in the globalized western banking system, absorbed by it, has a chance to tell the world that the only way to control and get on top of the cycle of financial and economic crises is to reign-in the bottom-less money production – the debt-interest-profit driven banking system, a Ponzi scheme that cannot survive (financing debt with more debt); the abhorrent uncontrollable debt-profit cycle that has brought misery to humanity – just look at Greece. With money production controlled by the respective central banks, for example, in France and in Germany, the senseless indebting of Greece by German and French banks would not have been possible, in which case the troika’s (ECB, European Commission and IMF) so-called bail-outs, or ‘rescue packages’, would not have been possible either. Hence no doubling of Greece’s debt – and Greece would be well on her way to recovery.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-14/vollgeld-initiative-switz...

Thank you very much

Permalink Reply by Nancy Lieder on May 18, 2018 at 6:28pm

Accepted yesterday via email:

Google AI project is apparently designed to track people migrating using drones at close proximity from street to street and house to house level? How freaky! Any comments on this?
[and from another]
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-14/google-employees-revolt-r...
Around a dozen Google employees have quit and close to 4,000 have signed a petition over the company's involvement in a controversial military pilot program known as "Project Maven," which will use artificial intelligence to speed up analysis of drone footage.
[and from another]
https://gizmodo.com/google-is-helping-the-pentagon-build-ai-for-dro...
Project Maven was established in April 2017. Maven’s stated mission is to “accelerate DoD’s integration of big data and machine learning.” In total, the Defense Department spent $7.4 billion on artificial intelligence-related areas in 2017. The project’s first assignment was to help the Pentagon efficiently process the deluge of video footage collected daily by its aerial drones—an amount of footage so vast that human analysts can’t keep up. Project Maven will use machine learning to identify vehicles and other objects from drone footage - with the ultimate goal of enabling the automated detection and identification of objects in up to 38 categories - including the ability to track individuals as they come and go from different locations.
[and from another]
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/06/elon-musk-warns-ai-could-create-imm...
Musk said that the development of superintelligence by a company or other organization of people could result in a form of AI that governs the world. The documentary examines a number of examples of AI, including autonomous weapons, Wall Street technology and algorithms driving fake news. Musk believes that humans should merge with AI to avoid the risk of becoming irrelevant. He is the co-founder of Neuralink, a start-up that reportedly wants to link the human brain with a computer interface.

SOZT
Much the subject of mankind’s science fiction, intelligent drones or robots that can take control of mankind’s world are a FEAR that man has, but will never become a reality. Movies such as Terminator or I Robot present a scenario where mankind allows their robots to take control, preventing man from making emotional decisions and thus, by this, saving the world. Of course, all this goes horribly wrong. Robots can make destructive decisions, just as emotional man does. Thus the alarm about the increasing use of Artificial Intelligence.

We were asked early in the ZetaTalk saga about robots, as to whether they can have souls. They do not, because all their decisions, at base, are PROGRAMMED and man has choice.
http://www.zetatalk.com/rules/r50.htm
Faced with a world where the public is aware of Nibiru and is viewed as likely to riot or splinter off into cults or revolt against the establishment, many in government and the wealthy elite are trying to get the upper hand via drones and robots. Amazon has promoted their goods delivered
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue549.htm
via drones. Walking as well as flying drones have been developed, and driverless cars. Sex dolls
http://www.zetatalk.com/rules/r17.htm
are now available.

Why would Google employees resign en masse, objecting over Google helping the Pentagon in data analysis for Project Maven? Do they imagine something worse than what exists today, without such extensive surveillance? The rape of children as young as infants, torture done by sadists who can count on their privacy being maintained, oldsters in nursing homes being abused by the staff, school shootings, and demands for sexual favors from bosses who think evidence of their abuse will never be recorded. Why is more complete surveillance worse than this?

We have stated that the public is likely to react to the truth about Nibiru by doing NOTHING outside of their current activities. The routine comforts, and they will be in shock or in denial. Over half the populace will be in denial. We have predicted that 43% of the populace will be insane to some degree as a result of the Pole Shift, primarily due to Post Traumatic Stress. Between those in shock or denial or struggling with PTSD will be a small percentage of criminals and opportunists looking to take advantage of others. In THIS battle, increased surveillance will be a blessing.
EOZT

Prior 1997 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/rules/r50.htm
Confusion over whether robots are alive, make choices, or might be incarnated with spirits lies in understanding what is seen versus what is unseen on the surface. On the surface, humans see robots able to entertain focus on a task at hand to the exclusion of all possible distractions, and thus, for instance, win at a game of chess over a human chess master. Is the robot not thinking? Yes and no, depending upon how one classifies thought. To primitive peoples, a simple computer program appears to be thinking, as it can rapidly arrive at a conclusion while entertaining a problem it has been programmed to address. Computer programs are not considered brains by most humans only because they can gaze at and understand the program, and can see that the computer is simply following instructions.

Prior 1995 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/rules/r17.htm
The Council of Worlds, which oversees all situations where one intelligent life form can enslave another, forbids the use of living biological material as components of thinking machines. The robot that propagates, learns, thinks, and as all life has emotion is alive, yet enslaved, as controls would surely be put into place to prevent the servant class from arising. Thus, media scenarios such as The Stedford Wives, or The Terminator, or Star Trek's Data would not be allowed to develop. Mankind, in short, is too dumb to create a handy-dandy version of intelligent, sentient life. One, per their desires, which would never break down or talk back, would always look good, be compliant in bed, foresee one's needs, repair the car, be infinitely loyal, smart as a whip but never look down on the master, and never suffer from neglect. The child's dream.

Permalink Reply by Nancy Lieder on May 18, 2018 at 6:43pm

As usual Stan, your question is impeccably presented. But declined because the Zetas have spoken about banks and money and the barter system often, so their opinion is on record. They said of Nirvana concepts such as NESCARA (http://www.zetatalk.com/transfor/t153.htm) that this will never happen. Printing money is the primary way countries stay afloat. To suggest that such printing STOP, no matter who is in charge, is likewise a fantasy. The Zetas have said that if there is a panic run on banks, that banks will restrict hours and limit withdrawals from savings. This is already happening. They have suggested instead that mankind put their money into worthwhile items such as gardening tools. That mankind is already increasingly moving to the barter system (http://www.zetatalk.com/transfor/t109.htm) has been apparent for years, and per the Zetas, this is where all the banks and paper money or plastic money is going in any case.

Stanislav said:

Since the beginning of the ZetaTalk saga, the Zetas described the banking system as villain number 1.

Permalink Reply by Stanislav on May 21, 2018 at 12:46pm

Hi Nancy and Zetas,

Could the Zetas comment? Will there be times when every hurricane season will be worse than another?

At the beginning of May, a tropical cyclone formed near the shores of Peru. This is the first time that a cyclone has been registered/formed in this part of the world. Parallel to this, near New Zealand, the highest wave in the history of the Southern Hemisphere was recorded.

http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/for-the-first-time-in-hist...

Later, very rare cyclone was formed in the Gulf of Aden.

"Cyclone Sagar, one of the rare ones to penetrate into western Gulf of Aden, was also the strongest tropical storm ever recorded in Somalia"

http://www.downtoearth.org.in/news/cyclone-sagar-kills-16-displaces...

http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/wild-weather

11 May, 2018. Hurricane season may be even worse in 2018 after a harrowing 2017

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/11/hurricane-season-may-...

18 May, 2018. A Rare Cyclone Is About to Hit Somalia

https://earther.com/a-rare-cyclone-is-about-to-hit-somalia-1826139793

8 May, 2018. Extremely Rare Southeast Pacific Subtropical Cyclone Forms Off the Chilean Coast.

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/2018-05-08-subtropical-cy...

11 May, 2018. Monster ocean wave sets southern hemisphere record: Scientists.

https://phys.org/news/2018-05-monster-ocean-southern-hemisphere-sci...

Thank you very much

Permalink Reply by Nancy Lieder on May 22, 2018 at 11:52am

Accepted

Stanislav said:

Could the Zetas comment?

Will there be times when every hurricane season will be worse than another? At the beginning of May, a tropical cyclone formed near the shores of Peru. This is the first time that a cyclone has been registered/formed in this part of the world. Parallel to this, near New Zealand, the highest wave in the history of the Southern Hemisphere was recorded. Later, very rare cyclone was formed in the Gulf of Aden.
[and from another]
http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/for-the-first-time-in-hist...
[and from another]
https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/NaturalHazards/view.php?id=92137
An extremely rare cyclone formed in early May 2018 about 160 kilometers (100 miles) off the coast of Chile—an area that almost never sees tropical cyclones. Cyclones are not typically found in this region because sea surface temperatures (SSTs) in the southeastern Pacific Ocean are usually too cold. The oceanographic process known as upwelling tends to bring cold water up from the deep ocean along the Chilean coast.
[and from another]
https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/2018-05-08-subtropical-cy...
[and from another]
https://phys.org/news/2018-05-monster-ocean-southern-hemisphere-sci...
Scientists have recorded what is believed to be the largest wave ever in the southern hemisphere, a 23.8 metre (78 foot) monster the height of an eight-floor building. A buoy recorded the wave during a ferocious storm in the notoriously wild Southern Ocean near Campbell Island, some 700 kilometres (430 miles) south of New Zealand. It wiped out the previous southern-hemisphere record of 22.03 metres recorded in 2012.
[and from another]
http://www.downtoearth.org.in/news/cyclone-sagar-kills-16-displaces...
Tropical Cyclone Saga, which made a landfall in north-western Somaliland and Djibouti on May 19, has left at least 16 dead, affecting thousands in Middle East and East Africa. It is the strongest tropical storm ever recorded in Somalia and also the strongest storm to venture so far west in the Gulf of Aden since 1885.
[and from another]
https://earther.com/a-rare-cyclone-is-about-to-hit-somalia-1826139793
[and from another]
http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/wild-weather
[and from another]
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/11/hurricane-season-may-...
The US may have to brace itself for another harrowing spate of hurricanes this year, with forecasts of an active 2018 season coming amid new research that shows powerful Atlantic storms are intensifying far more rapidly than they did 30 years ago. The initial forecasts of an above-average season for hurricanes follow a punishing 2017, most notable for Hurricane Harvey, which drenched large areas of Texas, Hurricane Irma’s sweep over Florida and the devastation that stubbornly lingers in Puerto Rico from Hurricane Maria.

SOZT
We have long predicted that the daily Earth Wobble would create storms in the oceans for planet Earth. In 1995 we predicted
http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p24.htm
an “increased frequency of hurricanes”. In 2005 we predicted
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta234.htm
that due to temperature swings, “the seasons almost blend into one another” such that snow in summer would become common. In 2005 we also predicted
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta204.htm
that “swirling in the oceans and air” would increase. In 2007 we pointed to the daily Earth Wobble as the cause.
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta363.htm
And as recently as 2017 we confirmed
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/30sp2017.htm
that the wobble’s slings to the right and left, as well as into the Polar Push, are responsible for the worsening hurricane season.

Of course this pattern is not going to change, not going to lessen, but will only worsen. As Nibiru comes closer, the wobble worsens, as this is Earth’s attempt to evade the Polar Push of Nibiru’s magnetic N Pole. Storms have historically assaulted the Caribbean and American East Coast and are now also assaulting the Chilean coastline and Argentina. They have historically assaulted the North Sea and UK but now are also assaulting the Atlantic side of Africa as well as the Afar Triangle. In 2005 we described the ocean storms that mankind will endure as making some coastlines “uninhabitable”,
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta234.htm
so that mankind only grows crops there but sleeps elsewhere. This time is coming.
EOZT

Prior 2/18/2005 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta204.htm
Swirling in the oceans and the air will only increase, not only becoming more violent and following each other in short order, but also will begin slamming into each other, creating weather conditions utterly unpredictable and horrific in their consequences. Forecasters will be dismayed.

Prior 2005 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta234.htm
The coastlines will get increasingly inhospitable, as storms formed over the oceans can develop into a howling rage that dissipates over land. As we have stated, hurricane force storms will not develop into super storms, more violent than man has experienced, but will form in places not previously experienced, and will be more consistently strong and destructive. In some places around the globe, this will make coastlines uninhabitable, a place where crops are grown or fish harvested but where humans do not reside or sleep soundly.

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/30sp2017.htm
With a stronger Polar Push the bounce back would likewise be more extreme, and the bounce back occurs when the Sun is over the Atlantic. As the wobble continued to get worse, the Figure 8 corrective lean to the right and left also got more extreme. This sets the stage for the current 2017 hurricane season.

Permalink Reply by Juan F Martinez on May 22, 2018 at 4:20pm

Hi Nancy, would the Zetas care to comment on the recent Royal Wedding, and update us on the current Elite plans to take over Africa in the AfterTime? Are the Royals planning for an African Queen?

Royal Weddings have historically been arranged to unite countries, ZetaTalk confirms that the Royals and Elites have their eyes on Africa, and soon the next generation can say, 'we're one of you.' Was this an arranged marriage to prepare the African population for the expected Elite mass-migration to Africa?

Is there an update on the Elite plans for Africa?

P.S. Obviously this picture is Photo-shopped, but conveys the message.

Permalink Reply by Nancy Lieder on May 23, 2018 at 12:44pm

Declined as the dying maneuvers of the New World Order crowd are not worth obsessing over. That they might want Megan to be an African Queen is a new one, had not heard that theory. There are photos showing she was part of the Spirit Cooking or Illuminati crowd, which might have been photo shopped. But one showing Harry with Megan holding his fingers in the Horns position that Macron used during his recent visit with Trump, that one was real. This crowd is dying, the Deep State dying, the Queen's influence dying. We have more important things to attend to.

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/there-are-a-nu...

Juan F Martinez said:

Hi Nancy, would the Zetas care to comment on the recent Royal Wedding, and update us on the current Elite plans to take over Africa in the AfterTime?

Permalink Reply by Matt B on May 25, 2018 at 5:16pm

Hello Nancy and Zetas.

The latest Star Wars film, "Solo" features a villain named Moloch.

In the Old Testament of the Bible, Moloch is the name of an evil Canaanite god. Worshippers of Moloch would sacrifice children by fire in order to appease him.

In recent times a sacrifice to Moloch was mentioned in one of Hillary Clinton's leaked emails. A cryptic post by Q also mentions mass murders occurring to satisfy Moloch.

Of all the names that could have been chosen for a fictional villain, why did the Star Wars film makers choose the name of an evil Biblical god associated with ritual slaughter and human suffering?

Thank you for considering this question.

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Moloch - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moloch

Moloch is the biblical name of a Canaanite god associated with child sacrifice...Rabbinical tradition depicted Moloch as a bronze statue heated with fire into which the victims were thrown.

Moloch - Star Wars

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Moloch

Moloch was a male alien who lived in the galaxy during the reign of the Galactic Empire as a member of the White Worms gang.

https://thecantina.starwarsnewsnet.com/index.php?threads/interestin...

The sadistic Moloch wallows in authority over the lesser thieves of his gang. Like all White Worms, Moloch is extremely sensitive to natural light and must wear special protective gear when operating beyond the murk of his dank lair.

Hillary Clinton Email Archive

https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/30489

With fingers crossed, the old rabbit's foot out of the box in the attic, I will be sacrificing a chicken in the backyard to Moloch.

Q post - Wed 15 Nov 2017

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/149463784/#149467638

For the coming days ahead.

Ask yourself an honest question, why would a billionaire who has it all, fame, fortune, a warm and loving family, friends, etc. want to endanger himself and his family by becoming POTUS?

Why would he want to target himself and those he cares about?

Does he need money?

Does he need fame?

What does he get out of this?

Does he want to make the US/world a better place for his family and for those good and decent people who have long been taken advantage of?

Perhaps he could not stomach the thought of mass murders occurring to satisfy Moloch?

Perhaps he could not stomach the thought of children being kidnapped, drugged, and raped while leaders/law enforcement of the world turn a blind eye...

Permalink Reply by Nancy Lieder on May 25, 2018 at 7:11pm

Accepted

Matt B said:

The latest Star Wars film, "Solo" features a villain named Moloch.

In the Old Testament of the Bible, Moloch is the name of an evil Canaanite god. Worshippers of Moloch would sacrifice children by fire in order to appease him. In recent times a sacrifice to Moloch was mentioned in one of Hillary Clinton's leaked emails. A cryptic post by Q also mentions mass murders occurring to satisfy Moloch. Of all the names that could have been chosen for a fictional villain, why did the Star Wars film makers choose the name of an evil Biblical god associated with ritual slaughter and human suffering?
[and from another]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moloch
Moloch is the biblical name of a Canaanite god associated with child sacrifice. Rabbinical tradition depicted Moloch as a bronze statue heated with fire into which the victims were thrown.
[and from another]
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Moloch
Moloch was a male alien who lived in the galaxy during the reign of the Galactic Empire as a member of the White Worms gang.
[and from another]
https://thecantina.starwarsnewsnet.com/index.php?threads/interestin...
The sadistic Moloch wallows in authority over the lesser thieves of his gang. Like all White Worms, Moloch is extremely sensitive to natural light and must wear special protective gear when operating beyond the murk of his dank lair.
[and from another]
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/30489
With fingers crossed, the old rabbit's foot out of the box in the attic, I will be sacrificing a chicken in the backyard to Moloch.
[and from another]
https://www.rationalchristianity.net/human_sacrifice.html
Genesis 22:2
Then God said, "Take your son, your only son, Isaac, whom you love, and go to the region of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains I will tell you about."
[and from another]
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/149463784/#149467638
Q !ITPb.qbhqo ID:wmN+33xv Tue 14 Nov 2017 20:25:09 No.149467638
For the coming days ahead.
Ask yourself an honest question, why would a billionaire who has it all, fame, fortune, a warm and loving family, friends, etc. want to endanger himself and his family by becoming POTUS?
Why would he want to target himself and those he cares about?
Does he need money?
Does he need fame?
What does he get out of this?
Does he want to make the US/world a better place for his family and for those good and decent people who have long been taken advantage of?
Perhaps he could not stomach the thought of mass murders occurring to satisfy Moloch?
Perhaps he could not stomach the thought of children being kidnapped, drugged, and raped while leaders/law enforcement of the world turn a blind eye.
Q

SOZT
Human sacrifice is found throughout mankind’s history and in cultures around the world. This is an extension of trying to appease whatever God has been angered by whatever means possible. Attacking a scapegoat,
http://www.zetatalk.com/beinghum/b16.htm
such as burning a witch at the stake, emerges from fear and anger at circumstances the community cannot explain. If the volcano is restless, throw virgins into the volcano. In ancient Judeo-Christian times, sacrificing a lamb was commonplace, as was worship of the Golden Calf.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_calf
If the lamb was not sufficient, the first born child
https://www.rationalchristianity.net/human_sacrifice.html
was considered.

But the current spate of rumored Satanic worship is not fed by trying to deflect misfortune or appease a vengeful god. Moloch has lived into the current times as a way to harden those who are casting their lot with the Service-to-Self. There can be no act that will extinguish empathy faster than the sadistic murder of a child, especially if this murder is during the process of rape.
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta212.htm
Domination, complete control
http://www.zetatalk.com/orientat/o37.htm
over others, and the ascendance of one’s own sexual pleasure seem to prevail, while any empathy is eliminated.

Thus when setting out to control the world
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue607.htm
in the Aftertime, after the Pole Shift, the New World Order crowd did more than plan for World War III. They needed hardened Service-to-Self captains in their ranks, who could smile and laugh in the cameras while ushering in the worst circumstances for innocents. The regular practice of child sacrifice, which did and does occur among this crowd, ensured that none of them had drifted toward empathy and regret. Those who did so were themselves sacrificed by assassination.
EOZT

Prior 1/15/1996 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/orientat/o37.htm
No conquest is enough - they become insatiable. The power trip experience from being able to do to humans what humans have an instinctive abhorrence of is resorted to as often as possible. Thus the victim is found not only dead, but maimed - eyes poked out, genitals severed from the body, fingernails pulled out. If the torture of a loved one would cause more distress, then the baby goes first and the parents must watch.

Prior 4/1/2005 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta212.htm
It has long been known that rape is more about domination of the weak by the strong than sex. It is a power trip, and more than just the ability to force another into a subservient position. Those inclined to Service-to-Self often lean toward sadism during their power trips, as this is a test of their power, their domination, over others. If the victim is pleading, this enhances the sense of power. If the victim is torn and bruised, or will have their life destroyed by the act being performed, this again enhances the sense of power to the perpetrator, as in most cases they get away with an act that society routinely abhors. Rape of women or young men, battery, is the first step for those seeking this type of power trip, but the worst of the lot discover abusing children brings a greater high.

Prior 7/15/1996 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/beinghum/b16.htm
Hatred and scapegoating are rift throughout humanity, and in truth, throughout all intelligent species everywhere. What then is the motive? It is to relieve rage, which cannot be directed toward the actual source, perhaps long dead or at least buried in the subconscious, but in any direction that results in an emotional catharsis.

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