ZetaTalk Chat for May 20, 2017

[Nancy Lieder]

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[Gerard Zwaan]

Thousands of ransomware cyberattacks reported worldwide."A ransomware virus is reported to be spreading aggressively around the globe, with over 50,000 computers having been targeted. The virus infects computer files and then demands money to unblock them." from  https://www.rt.com/news/388153-thousands-ransomeware-attacks-worldw... And: NHS cyber attack spreads worldwide http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/12/nhs-hit-major-cyber-atta... 

And also from RT news: "According to the New York Times, citing security experts, the ransomware exploits a "vulnerability that was discovered and developed by the National Security Agency (NSA)." The hacking tool was leaked by a group calling itself the Shadow Brokers, the report said, adding, that it has been distributing the stolen NSA hacking tools online since last year. " https://www.rt.com/news/388153-thousands-ransomeware-attacks-worldw...

More https://www.rt.com/news/388165-mass-cyberattack-strikes-globally/

This seems to me that there is more to this then just a attack I smell a rat, This large within a single day. Could the Zetas say something about this?

[casey a]

Just adding this to what Gerard posted..

Accidental hero' finds kill switch to stop spread of ransomware cyber-attack

Spread of malware curtailed by expert who simply registered a domain name for a few dollars, giving many across world time to protect against attack

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/13/accidental-hero-...

[Nancy Lieder]

Wonderful! I will add this to the question posed by Gerard.

casey a said:

Accidental hero' finds kill switch to stop spread of ransomware cyber-attack

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted

Gerard Zwaan said:

This seems to me that there is more to this then just a attack I smell a rat, This large within a single day. Could the Zetas say something about this?

[and from another]
Accidental hero' finds kill switch to stop spread of ransomware cyber-attack. Spread of malware curtailed by expert who simply registered a domain name for a few dollars, giving many across world time to protect against attack
[and from another]
https://apnews.com/e8402f2faf934f7ab5419d4961d3dafe/Global-extortio...
The malicious software behind the onslaught appeared to exploit a vulnerability in Microsoft Windows that was supposedly identified by the National Security Agency for its own intelligence-gathering purposes and was later leaked to the internet. Britain’s national health service fell victim, its hospitals forced to close wards and emergency rooms and turn away patients. Russia appeared to be the hardest hit, according to security experts, with the country’s Interior Ministry confirming it was struck. All told, several cybersecurity firms said they had identified the malicious software, which so far has been responsible for tens of thousands of attacks, in more than 60 countries. That includes the United States, although its effects there didn’t appear to be widespread, at least initially. The attack infected computers with what is known as “ransomware” — software that locks up the user’s data and flashes a message demanding payment to release it. Security experts said the attack appeared to be caused by a self-replicating piece of software that enters companies and organizations when employees click on email attachments, then spreads quickly internally from computer to computer when employees share documents and other files. Its ransom demands start at $300 and increase after two hours to $400, $500 and then $600. Affected users can restore their files from backups, if they have them, or pay the ransom; otherwise they risk losing their data entirely. The malware struck at least 74 countries. In addition to Russia, the biggest targets appeared to be Ukraine and India, nations where it is common to find older, unpatched versions of Windows in use.
[and from another]
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/13/accidental-hero-...
An “accidental hero” has halted the global spread of the WannaCry ransomware, reportedly by spending a few dollars on registering a domain name hidden in the malware. The switch was hardcoded into the malware in case the creator wanted to stop it spreading. This involved a very long nonsensical domain name that the malware makes a request to – just as if it was looking up any website – and if the request comes back and shows that the domain is live, the kill switch takes effect and the malware stops spreading. “I saw it wasn’t registered and thought, ‘I think I’ll have that’,” he is reported as saying. The purchase cost him $10.69. Immediately, the domain name was registering thousands of connections every second.  The time that @malwaretechblog registered the domain was too late to help Europe and Asia, where many organizations were affected. The malware was made available online on 14 April through a dump by a group called Shadow Brokers, which claimed last year to have stolen a cache of “cyber weapons” from the National Security Agency (NSA).
[and from another]
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/17/us/shadow-brokers-leak-raises-al...
The release on websites this week of what appears to be top-secret computer code that the National Security Agency has used to break into the networks of foreign governments and other espionage targets has caused deep concern inside American intelligence agencies, raising the question of whether America’s own elite operatives have been hacked and their methods revealed. Most of the code was designed to break through network firewalls and get inside the computer systems of competitors like Russia, China and Iran. That, in turn, allows the N.S.A. to place “implants” in the system, which can lurk unseen for years and be used to monitor network traffic or enable a debilitating computer attack. The code does not appear to have come from Mr. Snowden’s archive, which was mostly composed of PowerPoint files and other documents that described N.S.A. programs. The documents released by Mr. Snowden and his associates contained no actual source code used to break into the networks of foreign powers.



SOZT
Unlike the hacking and release of info done by the Transformation Team, which seeks to expose the elite’s attempts to rob and blind the public while they continue the cover-up over the presence of Nibiru, this cyber attack caused damage to innocents. The ability of hospitals to function was affected, for instance. Compare this to the blackouts
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/29ap2017.htm
that afflicted the US on April 21, wherein commuters were delayed in San Francisco and New York City, or the release of Podesta’s emails wherein his pedophilia was exposed. Given that the hand behind this ransomware attack was not the Transformation Team, then who was it?

There are clues to the identity of the perpetrator in the target locations – Europe, Russia, and Asia. The US was barely touched. Thus, it appears that the perpetrator was NOT Russian or any of the target locations, but likely in the US. Next, the ransomware infectious agent was modeled after stolen NSA tools, stolen in 2016. This software was designed to be used against Russia, China, and Iran – aligning closely with the actual countries attacked by the ransomware.  The NSA theft occurred in 2016 prior to any determination in the 2016 election, so politics would not be in this equation, but employees of the NSA should be suspect.

Where the public has been kept in the dark by the cover-up over Nibiru, the wealthy elite and politically powerful have long been aware. Of course, intel agencies, who spy on these individuals as part of their job, are also aware of the pending passage of Nibiru. The wealthy build bunkers and the politically powerful, such as the Clintons hoped to be, are collecting funds from those expecting favors. But those working a job in the intel agencies do not have such opportunities. They, like the common man, will be left hapless during the coming Pole Shift. Thus anger, and the impetus to collect funds, using whatever means are at hand. The ransomware perpetrators are NSA employees!
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email:

Would the Zetas give an interpretation of this latest crop circle?  I see the pictures
posted but no commentary.
[and from another]
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2017/Willoughby/Willoughby2017a....



SOZT
This is a genuine Crop Circle. The grain is bent at the growth nodes, not broken. This design represents the Earth’s Dark Twin, which normally rides directly opposite the Earth in the Earth’s orbit. These planets are well balanced, being the same size and mass, thus can share the same orbit. But after the Earth found Nibiru standing in its path, in December of 2003, and came to a halt, the Dark Twin has been creeping forward in their shared orbit. Thus the Dark Twin approached the Earth from the rear, and to avoid a collision dropped behind the Earth, outside of their orbit, in an attempt to bypass the Earth. During this process, the Dark Twin looms large in the view from Earth.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email:

Is Trump about to be impeached?
[and from another]
http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/05/17/greg-gutfeld-donald-trump-imp...
Democrats "defending Obama's errors" are now in a pro-impeachment hysteria over President Trump. No president has been hated by people in Washington more than Trump.
[and from another]
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/doj-appoints-special-counsel-in-wake-of...
Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein has appointed former FBI Director Robert Mueller to serve as special counsel to oversee the previously confirmed FBI investigation of Russian efforts to influence the 2016 presidential election and related matters. It was revealed the Comey had written a memo alleging that Mr. Trump had asked him to back off from investigation former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn. The memo allegedly says that the president said, in a private conversation with Comey at the White House, "I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go. He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go."
[and from another]
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article15114970...
Flynn’s rejection of a military operation that had been months in the making raises questions about what other key decisions he might have influenced during the slightly more than three weeks he was Trump’s national security adviser, and the months he was Trump’s primary campaign foreign-policy adviser. Even three months after he was fired, for lying to Vice President Mike Pence about a call with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, his role in the White House resonates. But it is his paid work on Turkey’s behalf that offers the clearest evidence of his role as a foreign agent – and of his legal problems, since he did not declare his foreign agent status till weeks after he’d left the Trump administration. According to Flynn’s paperwork, he was paid $530,000 for work that “could be construed to have principally benefited the Republic of Turkey.” Under the Foreign Agent Registration Act, U.S. citizens who lobby on behalf of foreign governments or political entities must disclose their work to the Justice Department within 10 days.
[and from another]
https://billofrightsinstitute.org/educate/educator-resources/lesson...
Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr was investigating Clinton’s pre-presidential financial dealings, but could prove no wrongdoing. In his deposition, Clinton denied under oath any involvement with Lewinsky. This denial caught Starr’s attention; Starr suspected the president had committed perjury and obstructed justice in the Jones trial. Some people believe that Clinton was impeached for political reasons, not for constitutional reasons.
[and from another]
http://www.denverpost.com/2017/03/02/federal-workers-layoffs-inevit...
Federal workers are growing increasingly anxious at the prospect of massive budget cuts President Donald Trump proposed this week that would pave the way for increased military spending. The president said he’ll call for $54 billion in reductions to offset new spending for the Pentagon, and it should not come from veterans’ programs, law enforcement or entitlement programs, the biggest drivers of federal spending. The math seems clear: To shrink government by that much, layoffs are inevitable. The State Department also could be in line for a big reduction, which some estimates peg at 37 percent.

SOZT
Despite what might be considered blunders by a politically inexperienced Trump, he will not be impeached. Despite the frenzy among those in the Hillary crowd to somehow remove Trump, it will not reach that level, as Trump has committed NO CRIME. Bill Clinton lied under oath, which is a crime, but evaded being removed from office. Nixon had committed crimes during the Watergate affair, as the tapes he himself made proved, but he resigned before being impeached.  The impeachment of unpopular President Andrew Johnson
http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/president-andrew-johnson...
was also unsuccessful in 1868, though the law was on the side of impeachment here too. Meanwhile, Trump haters mutter the impeachment word as often as possible.

The frenzy to remove Trump from power has many sources. The criminal Clinton cabal has been double dealing the public for years, and money buys a lot of allegiances. If the public had been privy to the secret trials conducted by Dunford last year, they would have been horrified. Selling 20% of the US uranium rights for $145 million
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/446526/clinton-russia-ties-bi...
while Secretary of State was just the tip of the iceberg. The Clinton Foundation, wherein only 5% went to actual charities, was a massive money laundering machine. Hillary is under house arrest
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue538.htm
now, and except for rare and well controlled public appearances is out of the running, permanently. Meanwhile, Hillary cronies spread unfounded rumors about Trump.

The second impetus to Trump’s removal from power comes from the Deep State - entrenched bureaucrats
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue552.htm
who fear losing their jobs. Trump has made no secret of his intentions to reduce the size of the federal government, and panic is palpable in some of the targeted agencies. The reduction in the highly politicized State Department,
http://www.denverpost.com/2017/03/02/federal-workers-layoffs-inevit...
which had been packed with Hillary cronies over the years, stands as an example. Eliminating civil servant jobs is difficult as they are protected by law, but one sure way is a budget cut wherein only those with seniority remain. Eliminating a group, or department, is another means. Meanwhile, the desperate leak info to the press.

Then there are foreign entities who do not see Trump firmly in hand. NATO members fear Trump’s agenda. They are in shock at his insistence that NATO members pay their fair share and are in shock at Trump’s alliance with Russia in Syria while fighting ISIS. Turkey is apoplectic about this, as despite his corruption in brokering oil for ISIS, Erdogan assumed as a NATO member he could demand cooperation. Erdogan fears the Kurds
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue480.htm
will gain independence and take land from Turkey, a process which is frankly inevitable under Trump. Meanwhile, they attempt to smear Trump in false treason or pedophilia charges.

If all this were not enough ammunition to attack an independent minded and determined Trump, the issue of a potential Nibiru announcement has roused the most intense opposition from both sides of the aisle. The cover-up over Nibiru is primarily kept in place by the wealthy and politically powerful, who benefit from an ignorant public.
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta149.htm   
They fear losing their position on the top of the pile - the public no longer being kept in check by an overwhelmed police force, and a starving and angry public overwhelming their secure enclaves. Meanwhile, like the Soros agenda,  
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue512.htm
they fund and back any anti-Trump endeavor that has legs.
EOZT

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/15ap2017.htm
Deep State is another term for the bureaucrat agenda. At the start of the ZetaTalk agenda we warned about the bureaucrat agenda turning into a virtual war as the threat of their removal from their comfortable government jobs increased during the approaching passage. Trump is doing just that, by cutting government employees from the budget.

Prior 2004 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta149.htm
Today the cover-up remains tight, the participants told that the presence in the inner solar system affecting Earth orbit and weather will pass, and the primary danger is panic in the world’s populations. That the cover-up serves those in the know, allowing them to continue in their power positions unchallenged and without surprises, is not addressed. In the name of national security, global security, and avoidance of unrest and mass panic, any who threaten to break the tight cover-up are assassinated, discredited, put into compromising positions, and punished.

[Carlos Villa]

Is Hillary about to go down?
http://yournewswire.com/trey-gowdy-clinton-email-scandal/

[Nancy Lieder]

Declined as this was implied by the Zetas last week, that the focus on Trump would be fixed by a return to a focus on Hillary. This is of course in the hands of man.

http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/13ma2017.htm

What of Hillary? Will her handling of her homebrew server be reopened, and prosecuted? This is highly likely, in part so that the public will focus again on her crimes, rather than hypothetical Russian influence crimes touted by the Republicans.

Carlos Villa said:

Is Hillary about to go down?

[M. Difato]

Could the Zetas give any insight into the likelyhood of this so-called vaccine for Ebola?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/18/world/africa/ebola-outbreak-cong...

Suspected Cases of Ebola Rise to 18 in Democratic Republic of Congo

The W.H.O., aid groups and the Congolese government are discussing the possibility of using an experimental Ebola vaccine, made by the American pharmaceutical company Merck, that proved effective in Guinea.

The response would involve a “ring vaccination,” in which contacts of patients, contacts of contacts, and health workers would be vaccinated. There would be no mass public vaccination.

The vaccine has not yet been licensed, and its use would require permission on several fronts. Nonetheless, Dr. Salama said that if permission were granted, the vaccine could be made available in a week or so. Other experimental antiviral drugs may also be considered..."

{and another}

May. 18, 2017 - As Ebola outbreak grows, question of using vaccine becomes more urgent

 http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/05/ebola-outbreak-grows-questio...

"..As health officials and aid workers head to a remote corner of the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) to respond to an outbreak of Ebola virus disease, a key question remains: Will the government authorize the use of a promising experimental vaccine? The vaccine had stunning results in a clinical trial in Guinea in 2015, but it has yet to be licensed for broad use.

As DRC officials weigh whether to use the vaccine, new details are emerging about the outbreak, which so far includes 20 suspected cases and three deaths, including the first, or “index,” case..."

[Nancy Lieder]

Declined as this vaccine came into play during the last Ebola outbreak, and was effective. It came late then, was still experimental, and still is in that category to some degree, but good for this crew! Go vaccine!

M. Difato said:

Could the Zetas give any insight into the likelyhood of this so-called vaccine for Ebola?

[Ovidiu Pricopi]

The owner of FOX News , Roger Alies died ,my questions:  he was killed-executed by the Deep State/Hillary/Soros crowd/Bush &Co  ? Roger was deep in the politics , maker of storys , he was one of the most influential people in US Politics building the Extreme Right Republican wing , even Geoge H  Bush said the without him he will not won his presidency ! He was part of the Elite circles serving under many American presidents ! Nixon , Reagan ,Bush H ! Supposable he died  in the new house that he just purchase !!!  in Florida , an bathroom trip accident injuring his head ..Basically bleeding to death in the middle of the night. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/05/18/roger-ailes-former-f... Are the Elites retaliate over the fact that Fox News on May 16, 2017 start to reopen the case of Seth RICH linking the DNC leaks to the WikiLeaks ...AND NOT THE RUSSIANS! Note that no other TV station from the main ones ABC, CBS, NBC ,CNN mention nothing about it ,but the Social Media it was buzzing about it    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/16/slain-dnc-staffer-had-co...  , https://www.sott.net/article/351314-His-name-was-SethRich-Twitter-r...  maybe Roger Allies  was trying to collapse “the house of card” Case build against  Trump, link him to the Russians , and Exposing the LIE and the liars  ! Sounds a little like a political execution with a message in a way ‘do not side with Trump” ?  Putin it was very clear regarding this mentioned that:  the people who promote Trump-Russia connection are or Stupid (the one who belive the lies) or DANGEROUS! This Dangerous people are in the retaliate mode and they execute one of the Important ultra rich well know individual ? Is this Dangerous Elite losing ground and start to committed desperate acts of killing that show that are afraid about the Truth …is any chance that they will be fully exposed!

[Nancy Lieder]

Declined as he was OUT of POWER, retired, due to the whole sex harassment of women during his career, coming onto them, etc. All that brought him down and out. Plus the story of his death has the ring of truth. He was a bleeder, a hemophiliac, and slipped and hit his head, bleeding to death in a brain bleed as a result. You've got every theory under the Sun in this Question. Woof. Not every death is an assassination.

Ovidiu Pricopi said:

The owner of FOX News , Roger Alies died ,my questions: