ZetaTalk: Small Groups

[Gerard Zwaan]

Note: added during the Nov 30, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

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We have recommended from the start that survivor groups start with one's friends and family, known entities. Even should you not particularly like your relatives, and they despise your friends, at least you have known entities about you. We have advised against meeting on the internet, answering adds, posting one's qualification in a database, or similar trust-all schemes. Those with skills are unlikely to need to post them and seek entry into another group, as almost everyone who knows them will be uttering invitations! Thus, those who advertise are likely the type of person to need support, in massive doses, both physical and emotional. We have also advised, as has Nancy within Troubled Times, to keep a low profile, not advertise your site or your presence. After the shift, those who have not lined up a relatively safe location, stocked away a few weeks food supply or a tent or cot, will adapt. Even those who have prepared must find themselves at that level, as the unprepared, soon enough. One cannot live as an island, well prepared and ignoring the neighbors, as the presence of a well stocked and electrified group soon becomes known. Would you turn your guns on your neighbors starving children?

We have predicted that government snoop methods, such as tracking small purchases or the whereabouts of those claiming to be contactees, will fail. They will be overwhelmed with tasks more immediate and pressing, going into the shift. We have recommended that supplies be stocked away from the home of the purchase, and no one talk of the survival site location. If in spite of all these efforts, a group finds someone in their midst that is passing this information onto an establishment arm, what to do?

1. Should such a happenstance occur, first doubt it as the establishment has far more to worry about that a small group with few supplies. If you can feed an army for a month, you may have a worry, but otherwise, they will ignore the tip!
2. Stay small, as this in itself is an insurance against attracting attention. Gangs looking to loot go to the rich, which have immense stores, not the little guy. Being small also allows a better likelihood that all members of the group are known, and the likelihood of a snitch in the group lessened.
3. If all else fails and you feel you are under scrutiny, start over! Ditch the supplies, which in any case should have been place in multiple places, unknown to any one individual.
4. If you truly feel you are likely to be invaded and looted, then group after the shift in a place where no supplies exist!

These types of maneuvers will better your chances, and in fact reduce the likelihood of looting or takeover to almost nil.

Source: ZetaTalk: Small Groups

[David Ian Swan]

I note here that the Zs seem to assume that you will have guns..;-)... In many rural areas gun ownership is the norm and hunting is a common hobby. You often use a rifle for pest and predator control.

They also suggest leaving the unprepared to adapt. I suspect that the unprepared are also uninformed, and will not know ( or believe) what has happened. They may have an EXPECTATION of help and rescue, and to be restored quickly to their former comfortable standard of living. They may be demanding , angry and difficult to deal with.

After a time even the best prepared may be eating worms, weeds and fern root

[Steve G]

Gerard - This post is a a really good find. I had spent a lot of time trying to find the perfect theoretical place, but ultimately concluded that the best plan was to go to the most rural area that is also considered a safe zone where several of my family members currently live.

[Karen Hayden]

Barrie Leslie Konicov said: If you are looking for a safe location, consider central Kentucky and contact me.


Barrie, I'm interested; I'm from Kentucky now living in California in the Sierra Mountains near Mt. Lassen and Mt. Shasta - both are volcanoes. My adult daughter and I want to get the heck outta here. Thanks for the info.