ZetaTalk Chat for August 31, 2023

[Nancy Lieder]

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Zeta Rules that Apply

1. No personal counseling is done.This rule has been in place since 1996. Questions should be of broad interest to the general public.
2. Correlation or resolution of ZetaTalk with the work of other channels or authors is not done unless they predict and have a prediction accuracy track record, as otherwise they are not a peer of ZetaTalk which does so. This rule has been in place since 2002. Just because another website or author makes a statement does not make that statement true, nor will the Zetas explain to you why their statements are not true, as then they are taking time out to address the issue.
3. The Zetas, as all visitors, are under rules on how they interact with humanity. They are not here to rescue you. They cannot divert Planet X just as today they do not prevent droughts or floods. The Earth is mankind’s schoolhouse whereby he learns to help his fellow man.
4. The date of the pole shift cannot be given, but the sequence of events can be given. [ Link ] Check the ning pinned discussions and blogs for such information as the 7 of 10, the last weeks, etc.

Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 78 years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

[Nancy Lieder]

Russia’s Luna-25 Space Craft ‘Ceased to Exist’ after Colliding with the Moon
August 20, 2023
https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/20/23839240/russias-luna-25-space-c...
Luna-25 entered orbit around the Moon last week, and was meant to orbit for just five days before landing on August 21st, but over the weekend, Roscosmos said it was analyzing a “technical glitch” that occurred as it was preparing the craft to move to a pre-landing orbit. Now the organization says Luna-25 has been lost. Landing on the Moon is no mean feat, and efforts to do so are frequently met with failure and disappointment.
[and from another]
India Makes Historic Moon Landing Amid Global Race to the Lunar South Pole
August 23, 2023
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/india-makes-historic-moon-lan...
India made history as it became the first nation to successfully land a spacecraft near the moon’s South Pole
[and from another]
India Moon Landing Live News: Chandrayaan-3 first to Land on South Pole
August 23, 2023
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/8/23/india-moon-landin...
India successfully lands spacecraft near the moon’s south pole, making it the first country to do so.
Indian PM Modi says mission’s success “belongs to all of humanity.” Chandrayaan-3 – “Mooncraft” in Sanskrit – took off from a launchpad in Sriharikota in southern India on July 14. Scientists believe the south pole’s unchartered territory could hold important reserves of frozen water and precious elements.
[and from another]
India becomes Fourth Country to Land on the Moon, First on the South Pole, with Chandrayaan-3 Spacecraft
August 23, 2023
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/23/india-chandrayaan-3-moon-mission.html
The feat makes India the fourth country – after the then-Soviet Union, the U.S. and China – to land on the moon, and the first to land on one of the moon’s lunar poles. Previously, Russia (then the Soviet Union), the U.S. and China landed spacecraft successfully on the moon.
[and from another]
China's Jade Rabbit Lunar Rover Ends Mission After 31 Months
August 23, 2016
https://www.popularmechanics.com/space/moon-mars/a22177/chinas-jade...
Only meant to operate for three months, China's little rover shattered the old record for longest time operating on the moon.
[and from another]
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue656.htm
Communications between SpaceIL and Beresheet appeared intermittently disrupted, and at the last stage, when the probe was solely under computer control, the probe crashed. Per the Zetas, this crash was under the direction of the Council of Worlds.
[and from another]
Why Is the Moon’s South Pole So Important? It’s All About Water
https://www.universetoday.com/143036/why-is-the-moons-south-pole-so...
As NASA prepares to return to the Moon by 2024 as part of its Artemis program, the agency is focusing its efforts on exploring the Moon’s polar regions. These are areas of the Moon which seem to have a lot of water mixed in with the regolith. Some of these craters are permanently in shadow, and might still have large quantities of water, that’s accessible to human and robotic explorers. This is a critical resource, and the Moon might be just the place to help humanity as it pushes out to explore the rest of the Solar System.

SOZT
Russia’s Luna25 was ambitious, as all other Moon lander failures have been to establish a surveillance site on the Moon that could track migration of survivors and equipment on Earth after disasters. This was of course what Israel under Bibi wanted when he launched the failed Beresheet. The S Pole of the Moon is difficult to image as it is in shadow, so the amount of frozen water there cannot be assessed, but why was India allowed to land on the S Pole while Russia was in essence shot down?

It has long been rumored that the dark side of the Moon is inhabited by aliens, and this is true. These are visitors from the Service-to-Self, who are forced to reside in 3rd Density
http://www.zetatalk.com/govmt/g13.htm
because they tend to be clumsy and kill themselves and their team mates during density switching to 4th Density. Since the Council of Worlds operates with the Element of Doubt rule so that humans are not overwhelmed with absolute proof that aliens are indeed visiting Earth, allowing man to image their cities on the Dark Side of the Moon or within the S Pole shadows is not allowed.

The Russia launch was going to succeed, so the Service-to-Self aliens scampered to other quarters, deep underground. They knew this would be followed by more efforts as the S Pole water was considered key to establishing a surveillance base on the Moon. But they had time to hide themselves well after exterminating Russia’s Luna25. By allowing the India lander to succeed, they hoped that the water issue would be resolved. Yes the S Pole has water. But any future attempts to establish a base on the S Pole will be resisted.
EOZT

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/30ap2019.htm
The Khazarian practice of child sacrifice to Moloch has its roots within the Khazarians, who were converts to the Jewish religion. And thus while this practice is being eradicated in the US, it would appear to thrive along with Netanyahu, and thus a message was to be given.

Prior 2023 ZT: http://zetatalk.com/ning/31ma2023.htm
If this seems like a repeat of the Israeli Beresheet incident, it is. Both disasters were at the hand of the Council of Worlds, who have repeatedly relayed that the elite on Earth will not be allowed to escape the Pole Shift by escaping to the Moon or Mars. If Beresheet and the recent Starship disaster are not enough, here is another smackdown. Switching to another country, from Israel under the direction of Bibi to Japan is not fooling anyone. Nor did hiding under the cover of the newly defunct General Milley save the Starship enterprise. Inform the common man about Nibiru’s approach and get right with God, is the message.

Prior 1995 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/govmt/g13.htm
Ambassadors from the Service-to-Self orientation reside in 3rd Density on the Moon when they are not out and about on the surface of the Earth, responding to The Call as given by various humans.

[Nancy Lieder]

What happened to Prigozhin's plane yesterday? Was this a dramatization of his death or were they deliberately killed?
[and from another]
The whole of Russia is disturbed by the news of the shooting down of a business jet carrying the leadership of the PMC "Wagner". Is the physical elimination of Yevgeny Prigozhin a criminal order of the leadership of the Ministry of Defense or something else? 
[and from another]
Wagner Boss Yevgeniy Prigozhin believed to be on Crashed Russian Plane: Live Updates
August 23, 2023
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/08/23/yevgeniy-prigozhin-...
Yevgeniy Prigozhin, the Wagner mercenary group chief who led a short-lived mutiny against the Kremlin in June, was listed as a passenger on a plane that crashed in Russia. The crash killed all 10 people onboard, according to the agency. Russia’s emergency services did not immediately confirm whether Prigozhin had been onboard and died.
[and from another]
Germany says ‘no Accident’ Kremlin in Focus over Prigozhin Death
August 24, 2023
https://insiderpaper.com/germany-says-no-accident-kremlin-in-focus-...
It is no accident that the world immediately looks at the Kremlin when a disgraced former confidant of Putin suddenly, literally falls from the sky two months after he attempted a mutiny.

SOZT
Prigozhin’s death was staged, as many suspect. A small plane under remote guidance, empty body bags carried away, and no living witnesses to be pestered by the media. This all occurred within Russian territory so a closed group was involved. Why did Prigozhin wish to “die”? He was a hunted man, as he absconded with the six billion bribe he received and remained alive to covertly direct his Wagner troops. His staged “death” is unlikely to fool those salivating for revenge.
EOZT

[Carlos Villa]

Donald Trump news
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-georgia-surrender-indi...
Please tell us this is somehow part of a bigger plan to prove his innocence because my heart is on the floor

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted. Its part of a bigger plan. Will do this up today, God willing. Just bear in mind that a President cannot be tried for a crime, he can only be impeached and THEN tried for a crime. Trump won in 2020 confirmed by SCOTUS etc and has never NOT been President during these last few years. 

Carlos Villa said:

Donald Trump news
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-georgia-surrender-indi...
Please tell us this is somehow part of a bigger plan to prove his innocence because my heart is on the floor

[Nancy Lieder]

Please tell us this is somehow part of a bigger plan to prove his innocence because my heart is on the floor.
[and from another]
Trump's Surrender in the Georgia 2020 Election Subversion Case
August 24, 2023
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-georgia-surrender-indi...
Donald Trump became the first former president with a mug shot when he was placed under arrest at the Fulton County jail. Trump was booked on 13 counts stemming from his efforts to reverse Georgia’s 2020 election results — including racketeering, conspiracy charges and soliciting a public official to violate their oath of office. It is the fourth time this year the former president has faced criminal charges.
[and from another]
President Trump Arrested in Fulton County, Mugshot Released
August 24, 2023
https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-trump-arrested-in-fulton-cou...
The highway in Atlanta was shut down on Thursday evening in Atlanta to make way for the presidential motorcade as it barreled to the Fulton County jail where President Donald Trump would be arrested, finger printed, and photographed, for the release of a mugshot. His bail has been set at $200,000.
[and from another]
Presidential immunity in the United States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_immunity_in_the_United_S...
Article II, Section 4 provides for which crimes the President shall be removed from office by impeachment in the House and conviction in the Senate. Article I, Section 3, Clause 7 specifies that only a President impeached by the House and convicted by the Senate is further subject to indictment, trial, judgement, and punishment "by law".

SOZT
You are watching a Movie
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue711.htm
as Q warned in early 2020. You are also under Martial Law, and have been since the Fall of 2015 when Obama lacked the courage to admit the presence of Nibiru. Part of this Movie is the use of Doubles,
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue751.htm
to disguise the arrests and execution for Treason at Gitmo.
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue874.htm
As has been well documented in ZetaTalk newsletters, the CCP had one foot over the border in an invasion
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue755.htm
during the fraudulent 2020 election.

President Trump and his Junta decided to focus on the most important battles first, as they had multiple fronts
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31jy2022.htm
to deal with. Antifa riots were in full swing and using the military to quell them would exhaust the Military. Now Antifa has been stopped, the CCP repelled, and the issue of reinstating President Trump can be addressed. SCOTUS has ruled, and the Senate has impeached the false Biden and instated President Trump as the 2020 winner. This occurred last Memorial Day weekend via the use of Satellite Phones.
https://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue872.htm

Now the frantic beneficiaries of the fraudulent Biden Administration are thrashing about to keep President Trump from being returned to public duty. The Military considers him their Commander in Chief but the Main Stream Media is controlled by those who fear President Trump. The Constitution explicitly states that a sitting President cannot be harassed by lawsuits, so it is time for this Movie to end. We have suggested that when Martial Law is openly declared as a result of the pending New Madrid Rupture, that the Junta will casually state that Trump is and has always been President. That time is at hand.
EOZT

Prior ZT: https://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31ma2023.htm
Not announced to the public is that SCOTUS long ago found that President Trump was the legitimate 2020 winner. The US Military also has never considered Biden their Commander in Chief. The fact that the US is and has been under Martial Law since the Fall of 2015 is also not public knowledge. If these facts were to be laid before the Senate, and they were forced to do their duty in swearing in the legitimate President, what would be the outcome?

Prior ZT: https://www.zetatalk.com/ning/30ju2023.htm
The Senate must be presented with the SCOTUS findings and debate next steps, per the Constitution. Making this public was to be delayed until the Junta was ready. The Junta feared civil war, and due to many other issues they were dealing with, requested SCOTUS delay their findings. The Senate must remove Biden as President before Trump can be reinstated. With this special Senate meeting, reinstating President Trump can occur without hesitation when the Junta is ready.

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31jy2022.htm
What is emerging now is panic among the Democrats and their handlers. Martial Law has been in effect since the Fall of 2015 when General Dunford took steps to remove the Khazarian bankers from any control over the Federal Reserve. A further tightening of Martial Law occurred after the 2020 election theft when President Trump issued another EO just before Biden was inaugurated. Due to having to fight several fronts at once, the Junta chose to proceed with a Secret War using Tribunals at Gitmo and Doubles. But the public is unaware.

[Nancy Lieder]

Why is the EBS in US planned for Oct 4?
[and from another]
Massive emergency alert test will sound alarms on US cellphones, TVs and radios in October
August 26, 2023
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/08/26/huge-us-fema-...
On Wednesday, October 4 at 2:20 p.m. ET, every TV, radio and cellphone in the United States should blare out the distinctive, jarring electronic warning tone of an emergency alert, accompanied by a notice. Federal emergency management coordinators need to make sure the national alert system is still an effective way to warn Americans about emergencies, natural catastrophes, attacks and accidents at the national level.
[and from another]
The Atlantic Ocean is getting Wider every Year. Researchers have Finally Figured out Why.
August 24, 2023
https://www.businessinsider.com/atlantic-ocean-widening-geologic-fo...
The Atlantic Ocean grows 1.5 inches wider every year. The tectonic plates undergirding the Americas are separating from those beneath Europe and Africa. But precisely how and why that is happening was a mystery to scientists, since the Atlantic doesn't have the same dense, subducting plates that the Pacific does. 
[and from another]
Why Is the Atlantic Ocean Widening While the Pacific Ocean Is Shrinking?
July 8, 2023
https://www.scienceabc.com/nature/why-is-the-atlantic-ocean-widenin...
Despite its massive size, the Pacific Ocean is actually shrinking. This is due to the Pacific plate, the Earth’s largest tectonic plate, being pushed beneath other plates in a process known as subduction. 

SOZT
The scientists who compute when the current Plate Movement process will result in a New Madrid Rupture do not see this happening before October 4. They are not relying upon ZetaTalk predictions but rather on the historical record of Pacific compression and Atlantic expansion. To take a Severe Wobble into consideration they would have to espouse ZetaTalk. They will not even espouse the possibility of Nibiru coming closer than it is at the moment. Thus the October 4 day is not valid, not based on all the data.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

As is our usual practice we are closing this August Q%A and opening the September Q%A. Please post your questions there. Thank you. 

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