ZetaTalk Chat for July 31, 2023

[Nancy Lieder]

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Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 78 years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

[Nancy Lieder]

As Zeta Talk has reported some time ago, the Ukraine had lost almost from the beginning. But the MSM propaganda pushed a narrative in opposition to this. Also, the MSM was the last front for the White Hats in their war against the Satanists/NWO Globalist crowd. This article from Hal Turner indicates a major turning point has occurred. Do you or the Zetas care to comment on the current status and why the sudden reversal in the narrative from the MSM?
[and from another]
Hal Turner Radio Show - WHOA! Mass-Media Begins Telling Public "Ukraine is Losing; Territorial Concessions to Russia" and "The West Can Do No More!"
July 20, 2023
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/whoa-ma...
Washington Post Newspaper: "Washington No Longer Believes in Ukraine's ability to Break Through Russian Defenses". In Germany, BILD Headline:  "The Losses are Colossal". The German Magazine BILD published a report in which it emphasized that the losses of the Ukrainian Army "are colossal; there is not enough equipment, and a counter-attack is not possible." The fact that ALL of these reports came out today indicates (to me) that the mass-media has been specifically instructed to start an effort to change the narrative on Ukraine, and to change it fast. 
[and from another]
It's Over... Now, Stop Crying and Find Yourself a New Friend...
July 12, 2023
https://strangesounds.substack.com/p/its-over-now-stop-crying-and-find
When your best friend leaves you by yourself at a party… Narrator: "It was at that moment, he realized he was being used and would soon be thrown away like every other ravaged war torn country 'helped' by NATO before him…"
It seems that Zelensky's whole closet is olive drab… Yep! That's the thing with camouflage, the others just don't see you…
Let's hope this awful war and bloodshed ends soon.

SOZT
In remarkable lock-step, the Main Stream Media in Europe and the US suddenly decided that Zelensky had failed and his efforts to retake Ukraine were hopeless. What changed? As is known, NATO did not have the reserves to push back against Russia, and Biden stated from the start that the US would not join the NATO battle. Still, minimal aging weapons left over from World War II were sent to the Ukraine, to show support. Why have the Ukraine backers suddenly admitted defeat? Because President Trump will soon be reinstated and the Biden crowd will lose control of the narrative.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

Dramatic Moment Entire Road Explodes in Mystery Blast leaving one person Dead and Dozens Hurt as it Sends Buses Flying
July 20, 2023
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12321085/Dramatic-moment-h...
An explosion from a so far unknown origin ripped through a street in Johannesburg on Wednesday July 19, killing one person and injuring dozens. Egoli Gas which manages the pipeline under the street, denied the blast was a result of their network and said that investigations had not uncovered any sign of a leak. It pointed to the fact that its gas pipes run at extremely low pressure to the side of the road, and were left intact when the tarmac split from the centre. In a tweet, it said: "It is unlikely that the explosion in Johannesbury CBD, Bree Street, was caused by a gas pipeline or leak. "Our network has experienced no pressure loss which indicates the gas pipelines are intact. Our customers in the area continue to receive gas uninterrupted."

SOZT
Our predicted African Roll is in process, dropping the NE corner of the Africa Plate so that squeezed container ships in the Suez Canal have become a regular headache. As the Atlantic widens and the Pacific compresses, the foot of Africa slides into the void that has opened up in the S Atlantic. The foot is forced into a bend during this process, as can be seen in the CO maps of underground burning from the Methane released during this crunch. Weak rock connections snap during such times, as was shown in the Johannesburg rupture.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

Extremely dangerous situation in Sicily — Wildfire burning meters away from cars driving on Italy highway
https://twitter.com/TheInsiderPaper/status/1683979377401552898
[and from another]
Massive smoke from wildfires engulf residential area in Palermo, Sicily.
https://twitter.com/TheInsiderPaper/status/1683944273421692930
[and from another]
Man burnt to death by forest fire on Greek island: police
https://twitter.com/TheInsiderPaper/status/1683898344287109121
[and from another]
Clip from a livestream of Rhodes Island wildfires in Greece
https://twitter.com/TheInsiderPaper/status/1683874235792363520
[and from another]
Greece fires in maps and satellite images show extent of damage
July 26, 2023
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66295972
Tens of thousands of people have been forced to leave their homes and abandon holidays on Greek islands including Rhodes and Corfu as fires spread across the region. In Rhodes a black scar has been scorched across the middle of the island to the southern town of Kiotari.

SOZT
The recent Greek Island fires are most intense in Rhodes and Sicily, where the plate border between Africa and Eurasia gives these islands a glancing blow. Just as Canada was a holocaust due to stretched and ripping rock releasing Methane that burned underground, this region is reacting to a void being created above the NE corner of Africa as Africa rolls. There have been fires inland in Turkey and Europe, but only the island fires seem out of control. Why are the islands most affected by the sudden drooping of the Eurasian Plate on the edge of the border with the Africa Plate.

If a plate suddenly loses support on one edge, it is more than a loss of elevation that afflicts the plate edge. Lava emerges in the void that is suddenly opened between the plates. Normally, a spreading plate border will fill with lava which then quickly hardens, similar to a volcano flow. One could equate the hot lava that emerges and rushes to fill the void to having these islands on the brink of a volcano, exposed to the heat. For those who claim arson was involved, we would point to the plate border that runs along these Greek islands.
EOZT

[jorge namour]

ETNA VOLCANO - SICILY REGION . ITALY

JULY 23 2023

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=698317328975355&set=pcb.69...

Il Mondo dei Terremoti

A few days ago, inside the Bocca Nuova dell'Etna a new pit crater was formed, i.e. a collapsing crater from which a lively high-temperature and pressure gas emission is underway. Such degassation, affecting a circular mouth from very narrow walls, is forming in a sequence of beautiful vortex rings clearly visible from all the surroundings. This is a not too rare phenomenon that we can admire at the top of Stromboli at some times.

[Tracie Crespo]

Would the Zeta's care to decipher this latest crop circle?  The geometric perfection & intricate detail makes this one appear genuine. 

Thank you!

New Crop Circle reported:

Hatherden Lane, Hampshire, UK
July 25, 2023

 https://www.cropcircleaccess.com/latestcropcircles/?fbclid=IwAR37xX...

[Nancy Lieder]

This CC is a hoax thus declined. 

Tracie Crespo said:

Would the Zeta's care to decipher this latest crop circle?  

[Nancy Lieder]

US recovered non-human biological pilots from crashed crafts, UFO whistleblower says in hearing. Is this going to turn into a full disclosure under the directions of the Junta?
[and from another]
Whistleblower Tells Congress the US is Concealing ‘Multi-Decade’ Program that Captures UFOs
July 26, 2023
https://apnews.com/article/ufos-uaps-congress-whistleblower-spy-ali...
The U.S. is concealing a longstanding program that retrieves and reverse engineers unidentified flying objects, a former Air Force intelligence officer testified to Congress. The Pentagon has denied his claims. Retired Maj. David Grusch’s highly anticipated testimony before a House Oversight subcommittee was Congress’ latest foray into the world of UAPs — or “unidentified aerial phenomena,” which is the official term the U.S. government uses instead of UFOs. 
[and from another]
Pentagon has Received ‘Several Hundreds’ of New UFO Reports
December 16, 2022
https://apnews.com/article/7227512231fa206da624f813455c2f0b
A new Pentagon office set up to track reports of unidentified flying objects has received “several hundreds” of new reports, but no evidence so far of alien life.
[and from another]
https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message5488417/pg1
[and from another]
https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message5488170/pg1
[and from another]
Shawn Ryan @ShawnRyan762
https://twitter.com/ShawnRyan762/status/1684335181300224000
Today history was made as the first public congressional subcommittee hearing took place covering the subject of UAPs/UFOs and if they are a threat to national security. It was a lot to soak in but after a few hours to digest what I heard, this is what stood out to me from the 3 whistle blowers. The US has recovered a “foreign craft” of some kind and recovered biometrics of an unknown species from that craft. Military industrial complex companies are grossly overcharging the government on projects and weapons to fund black budget projects to produce their own technologies to engineer their own UAPs. Several congressmen/women with Top Secret clearances have been denied access at military bases that have information on UAP/UFOs We have known about non-human intelligence since the 1930’s. Modern day physics tells us no human could survive the acceleration / gforce these crafts are capable of. There are active misinformation agents. (We don’t know who) I found the whistleblowers to be very well spoken and as credible as it gets on this particular subject. I hope to have them all on my show. The congressmen/women who put this together did an incredible job and had terrific questions. They put some real time into this. As they find out more being briefed by David Grusch behind closed doors I will invite them on my show to tell us what they’ve learned. Thank you congressman @timburchett of Tennessee for the hospitality and invitation to today’s hearing. To wrap this all up in a nutshell… We are not alone.
[and from another]
Pilot on Alleged UAP: ‘Completely Stationary in Cat 4 Hurricane Winds’
July 26, 2023
https://twitter.com/TheInsiderPaper/status/1684306975616806912
Former US Navy fighter pilot Ryan Graves on UFOs: “These objects were staying completely stationary in in Category 4 hurricane winds. These same objects would then accelerate to supersonic speeds.”

[and from another]
Ex-Intel Officer Says US Hiding Info on Alien Craft
July 26, 2023
https://insiderpaper.com/former-intelligence-officer-says-us-hiding...
Pressed for details in the course of the hearing, Grusch repeatedly said he could not comment in a public setting because the information is classified. Asked if there may be life beyond Earth, National Security Council spokesman John Kirby said he does not have a position on the issue one way or another. “What we believe is that there are unexplained aerial phenomena that have been cited and reported by pilots — Navy and Air Force,” he said, adding: “We don’t have the answers about what these phenomena are.” The head of the Pentagon office set up to identify UAPs that pose a potential threat also told lawmakers earlier this year that it had not identified signs of alien activity. The All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office “has found no credible evidence thus far of extraterrestrial activity, off-world technology, or objects that defy the known laws of physics,” Sean Kirkpatrick testified in April.
[and from another]
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue525.htm
[and from another]
https://twitter.com/ShadowofEzra/status/1684335898790449157
Shadow of Ezra @ShadowofEzra
Extraterrestrial or Extradimensional? You may want to revisit those Wikileak emails again.

SOZT
Officials hide behind coverups for many reasons.

* It could be that investigations are ongoing and to reveal any of these facts will alert the criminals to hide evidence or avoid a sting operation. This is what is going on with the Ukraine, where supposed funds are sent from the US but no actual cash moves. Instead, money laundering associates are snagged.

* It could be that the establishment fears panic in the people, rioting and looting and hospitals filled with heart attack victims. This is at base what the cover-up over the Alien Presence is about, locked in place by President Truman by Executive Order after the Roswell crash. MJ12 was formed and is still a big secret.

* It could be to protect the guilty. This was the case for the JFK assassination which was hardly done by Oswald but rather by the CIA as JFK threatened to tell the public about the Alien Presence. This is also the case over the real culprits in the 911 Twin Towers crash, which was hardly done by 19 Arabs bearing box cutters but rather at the hand of Bush insiders to gain an excuse to invade Iraq for the oil.

* It could be to protect assets of the banking industry, who would find the public refusing to pay their coastal mortgages if they learned that Nibiru was heading for a passage that will cause worldwide tides. The public would demand shelter and an evacuation plan from governments unable to provide that. The Nibiru coverup maintains the status quo.

So what does ZetaTalk provide, other than answers with a proven prediction accuracy? It is not by accident that a woman in central Wisconsin, who despite a high IQ and high SAT score that gained her a National Merit Scholarship offer, only has a high-school education but has been featured on TV around the world. ZetaTalk makes the clear statement that the Alien Presence is real, that contactees need not fear giving The Call
http://www.zetatalk.com/call/c00.htm
for contact, and provides immense detail about the coming Pole Shift caused by the passage of Nibiru.

Cover-ups are protected by keeping the facts close, among few, on a need-to-know basis. Timely assassinations ensure many cover-ups are secure. But the cover-up over Nibiru has been shattered by its recent visibility, wherein the common man can just gaze at the sunrise or sunset to see a Second Sun.
http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p182.htm
Then there is the Daily Wobble factor, where the Sun will rise or set far from where expected. Where an admission that Nibiru is a real and present danger is unlikely to happen, advising the public on Safe Locations and Self-Sufficiency has always been a staple in ZetaTalk.

The cover-up over the Alien Presence has been challenged numerous times by credible individuals, the recent Congressional hearings not the first. Why is there a press at this time for disclosure? We were asked in 2008 how many humans were contactees and reported at that time 20,000 and counting. Now over half the populace are contactees, chatting away with hundreds of different intelligent life forms who have come to assist Earth at this time. UFO displays are brazen and full of information for those who see them.

What is the downside of maintaining a cover-up when it is obviously not in accordance with the facts? The public loses faith in the establishment. Lacking facts the public can thus be misled so they are likely to follow disinformation, especially any disinformation that promises rescue. This is where pointing to ZetaTalk as a source of information on Nibiru and Safe Locations, and by its very track record a source of information on the Alien Presence, is pertinent.

At a time when the New Madrid Rupture is likely to be proving, once again, that ZetaTalk predictions are accurate, the Junta may decide that allowing the public to have access to full-throated ZetaTalk is an easy way to explain the shattering cover-ups over Nibiru and the Alien Presence. They will just step back and let the Zetas explain it all. While Martial Law is in effect to handle the New Madrid disaster, they can also publicly reinstate President Trump.
EOZT