ZetaTalk Chat for June 30, 2023

[Nancy Lieder]

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1. No personal counseling is done.This rule has been in place since 1996. Questions should be of broad interest to the general public.
2. Correlation or resolution of ZetaTalk with the work of other channels or authors is not done unless they predict and have a prediction accuracy track record, as otherwise they are not a peer of ZetaTalk which does so. This rule has been in place since 2002. Just because another website or author makes a statement does not make that statement true, nor will the Zetas explain to you why their statements are not true, as then they are taking time out to address the issue.
3. The Zetas, as all visitors, are under rules on how they interact with humanity. They are not here to rescue you. They cannot divert Planet X just as today they do not prevent droughts or floods. The Earth is mankind’s schoolhouse whereby he learns to help his fellow man.
4. The date of the pole shift cannot be given, but the sequence of events can be given. [ Link ] Check the ning pinned discussions and blogs for such information as the 7 of 10, the last weeks, etc.

Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 78 years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

[Kris H]

Hi Nancy, is there a new push for disclosure now that the US Corp avoided debt default? 

https://www.newsnationnow.com/space/military-whistleblowe-us-ufo-re... 

[Nancy Lieder]

Disclosure, whether for the Nibiru presence of the Alien presence, or the extent of 2020 election fraud, is never welcomed by the Junta or establishment as it means angry people, riots, and demands for more transparent info. Disclosure happens only when the establishment must make and admission, like reinstating Trump in order to have a civil administration in place if and when Martial Law is not the cure. I don't think this disclosure is tied to yet another Debt Limit agreement. 

Kris H said:

Hi Nancy, is there a new push for disclosure now that the US Corp avoided debt default? 

https://www.newsnationnow.com/space/military-whistleblowe-us-ufo-re... 

[Kris H]

I wasn't necessarily tying alien disclosure to the debt limit deal. I meant it in regard to some sort of "next step". Many thought default was coming, but another extension was found. I see this alien disclosure as a means to pressure the current establishment, or put them off balance. I mean, this is a whistle-blower saying we found alien craft with alien bodies. There must be some significance here.

Nancy Lieder said:

Disclosure, whether for the Nibiru presence of the Alien presence, or the extent of 2020 election fraud, is never welcomed by the Junta or establishment as it means angry people, riots, and demands for more transparent info. Disclosure happens only when the establishment must make and admission, like reinstating Trump in order to have a civil administration in place if and when Martial Law is not the cure. I don't think this disclosure is tied to yet another Debt Limit agreement. 

Kris H said:

Hi Nancy, is there a new push for disclosure now that the US Corp avoided debt default? 

https://www.newsnationnow.com/space/military-whistleblowe-us-ufo-re... 

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted. Too many people are asking. 

Kris H said:

Hi Nancy, is there a new push for disclosure now that the US Corp avoided debt default? 

Is the Junta getting the public ready for a disclosure? What do the Zetas say.
[and from another]
This story just hit the news today.  The Department of Defense is allowing this guy to participate in numerous interviews. Looks like the White Hats are finally starting to allow disclosure. But why now???
[and from another]
Hi Nancy, is there a new push for disclosure now that the US Corp avoided debt default? I see this alien disclosure as a means to pressure the current establishment, or put them off balance. I mean, this is a whistle-blower saying we found alien craft with alien bodies. There must be some significance here.
[and from another]
Military Whistleblower Comes Forward to Allege U.S. Has Alien Craft: Report
June 5, 2023
https://www.thedailybeast.com/military-whistleblower-comes-forward-...
A whistleblower on the U.S. government’s “Unidentified Aerial Phenomena” task force is coming forward to allege that federal agencies have secretly recovered and studied alien craft—a claim that NASA and other departments deny strenuously.  He claims that a number of high-level intelligence officers approached him with evidence, including oral testimony and physical documentation of a crash-retrieval program that was being hidden from the UAP task force. 
[and from another]
Military Whistleblower Claims US has UFO Retrieval Program
https://www.newsnationnow.com/space/military-whistleblowe-us-ufo-re...
In recent years, the government has taken a more vocal role in investigating such sightings, with Congress forming an official U.S. government “Unidentified Aerial Phenomena” task force, recently renamed to the “All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office,” or AARO. At the same time, NASA and other government agencies have repeatedly said there is no credible evidence of extraterrestrial activity on Earth, attributing most sightings to natural phenomena or human-made objects.
[and from another]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUAj1uRGJlQ&ab_channel=FoxNews
[and from another]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ezQ7mFeKi8&t=27s&ab_channe...

SOZT
Disclosure over the Alien Presence has been an issue for decades. The US lied broadly during the Roswell incident, and since they have the most evidence that man is not alone in the Universe as an intelligent creature, they are the main reason other countries are reluctant to disclose. Nevertheless, in 2009
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta541.htm
country after country was opening their UFO files, albeit without US participation. Now this issue is again in the press, with a whistleblower on the US UAP task force giving interviews on TV about the extent of the coverup.

What is the agenda here? Is the US secretly trying to admit? The Junta finds the coverup over the Alien Presence increasingly burdensome, and in addition knows that ZetaTalk will soon be pushed into the media due to accuracy on various predictions. ZetaTalk is well known, of international fame, and the public frequently reminded of their predictive accuracy by the TV series on the American Heroes Channel. UFO displays are on the increase, and polls show that the US public thinks ET has already arrived.

In the past, it was the hand of the CIA that pushed denial and pushed Hollywood to present any aliens as up to no good. So how to reverse this hard-line stance? Creeping disclosure was apparent by 2015,
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue436.htm
and Hollywood did produce ET friendly films, but for the Junta to make the leap to an admission that ET indeed has arrived and is friendly and even helpful as the ZetaTalk website shows, the fastest route is to find a scapegoat. That scapegoat will be NASA who indeed has been in active denial over the Mars Rover photos.
EOZT

Prior 2009 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta541.htm
As one country after another opened their UFO files, one stood apart - the United States, the country with the most official information on the existence of the alien presence. During the life of MJ12 the US had extensive contact with aliens, and examined their ships. The US has relics from that era, including mummified alien bodies. But where the US has the most to present to the world, has proof positive, they are also the most reluctant. We have stated, when repeatedly asked about this issue in the past, that such disclosure would deeply embarrass those officials who were at the forefront of denial over the decades. In that the highly popular and well known ZetaTalk website holds proof of a kind in the ZetaTalk Accuracy record, there is an additional fear. If the alien presence is acknowledged, then is the presence of Planet X and the reality of a pending pole shift also being acknowledged? We have predicted that it is increasing mass sightings, increasing sightings of alien bodies, that will drive public awareness of the alien presence. Official disclosure by the US government is highly unlikely to occur, though they may back off some of their debunking campaigns.

[Nancy Lieder]

A question for the Zetas : does this helix shape relate to the grounding of particles from the debris tail of Nibiru? This occurred in Idaho on June 6.

SOZT
Lightning, as everyone knows, is electrons on the move, seeking to dissipate a large amount of electrons which are, in God’s design, destined to always be on the move. Electrons are attracted to each other while at the same time wanting to avoid crowding. Lightning that forms during storms is generated from the friction between air masses, which force electrons to crowd together so they seek a path to dissipate.
http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p38.htm
Normally this path is to down to the ground or into water, targets which allow a strong flow of electronics to move quickly. If the surrounding air masses are more inviting, the lightning will not ground but will move horizontally.

So what has occurred that this lightning is taking the shape of DNA? The path to dissipation can be blocked if the surrounding air is heavily charged, which occurs during Ball Lightning.
http://www.zetatalk.com/science/s114.htm
Ball Lightning finds it cannot easily move outward so turns upon itself. This is the path of least resistance. The DNA formation is new, unlike the usual branching shape that lightning takes, because it combines the Ball Lightning rotation direction with the normal grounding direction. What is forcing the rotation? Charged air from the charged tail of Nibiru, which is increasingly engulfing the Earth.
EOZT

Prior 1995 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/science/s114.htm
Mankind is aware of the brief distances and the intense electron press required to support arcs such as arc welding or carbon arc lamps. They are aware of the distance that lightning, representing a buildup of electrons in the atmosphere, can move. In general this is at most for a distance along the horizon but most often simply downward to a discharge point. In fact, this is only the visible lightning, and arcs can and do occur over longer distances and with less electron press than presumed, but this type of activity is not showy and thus escapes mankind’s notice. But ball lighting hangs together, is not moving, it would seem, from a high charge to a lesser charge, the normal distribution of electrons that is so familiar and runs all manner of handy appliances. Consider that an electrically charged field may be immense, covering the horizon that can be seem from end to end, and rising for miles up into the sky. Consider that within this charged field, there are not simply electrons and the particle that creates the phenomenon of magnetism, but all the other 387 particles that operate in a similar manner, each with its own desire to equalize its distribution in the vicinity. Ball formation occurs when the particles that would disperse are forced to remain in the vicinity by a greater pressure from other particles surrounding them.

Prior 1995 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p38.htm
Humans are familiar with arcing, where two poles or points are electrified, carrying an electric current, and suddenly the air between them is filled with a minor lightning bolt - zap. This is, of course, what causes lightning in the first place, an uneven distribution of electricity between natural conductors, between a buildup in the clouds and the water table below the Earth. What allows lightning to find its path? It is using a little understood path formed by sub-atomic particles, electrical waves of a sort, that have not been measured yet by Earth's human scientists. These emanate from any highly electrified field, and when they touch the arc is now possible.

[Kris H]

Hi Nancy,  Can the Zetas explain what happened in Las Vegas, where a family claims a UFO landed in their backyard, and tall aliens got out of the craft?

https://www.8newsnow.com/news/las-vegas-family-claims-to-see-aliens... 

[Nancy Lieder]

Declined as I am sure this is either imagination, an alien costume, a hoax, or some such. The story is likely to play out along those lines. Contact does not happen like this. 

Kris H said:

Hi Nancy,  Can the Zetas explain what happened in Las Vegas, where a family claims a UFO landed in their backyard, and tall aliens got out of the craft?

[Nancy Lieder]

Changed my mind as too many email re this. Hoax or not, new ZT coming up

Nancy Lieder said:

Declined as I am sure this is either imagination, an alien costume, a hoax, or some such. The story is likely to play out along those lines. Contact does not happen like this. 

Anyway can the Zetas elucidate on this recent UFO/ET incident in Las Vegas NV?
[and from another]
Why is the media reporting on this fake alien story? Is this a push towards disclosure? Are we going to see more reports on aliens in the media like this?
[and from another]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROLYGcj5bNM
[and from another]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oli6Q6y14W8
[and from another]
https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message5451312/pg1
[and from another]
https://youtu.be/BdsYfGvIznM
When the object landed, he felt a shockwave, vision became blurry -Ring cam footage of sound when object hit the ground. Crazy - The mom sounds scared and runs away from backyard gate. Anyone know what she is saying? Not sure of the language. - Found the ET hiding behind a forklift in their backyard. When he looked at it in the eyes, he couldn't move. Could hear the ET breathing, and its stomach moving. Paralysis went away after the ET stopped looking at him. - Family went inside the house now. While they waited for the police, they heard footsteps in backyard area together with loud whisperings; also heard footsteps on the roof.

SOZT
This incident is clearly a hoax taking the opportunity to make claims after a bolide passed overhead and thudded to the ground nearby in Las Vegas. UFO crashes
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue421.htm
are extremely rare. But beyond some marks on the ground and testimony from the supposed witnesses, there is no evidence. But if this hoax happened on May 1, why did the media wait for a month before making a fuss about it? During this past month a whistleblower from the UAP task force revealed that the US had possession of crashed ships, and we noted that disclosure was now to be expedited. On May 1 the US was still suppressing any chatter about the Alien Presence, but a month later the policy had changed!
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

Can the Zetas please comment on the Trump indictment vis-à-vis the White Hats / Junta Trump reinstatement scenario?
[and from another]
With the NMA finale right around the corner there appears to be a new push to either discredit or get rid of Trump with this new indictment. They seem to really be going at him hard this time. Would the Zeta's care to give us an update on the situation?
[and from another]
Is the Junta on the cusp on reinstating Trump as president now that he's been indicted?
[and from another]
All the Blistering Allegations in Unsealed Indictment
June 9, 2023
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12179143/Trumps-37-count-f...
According to the indictment, Trump allegedly instructed his attorneys to hide information from the Department of Justice, suggesting they 'pluck out' damaging classified documents.
[and from another]
Trump-Appointed Judge returns to Spotlight in Ex-President’s Federal Criminal Case
June 9, 2023
https://www.cnn.com/specials/politics/president-donald-trump-45
Federal judge Aileen Cannon entered the public spotlight last summer when she oversaw court proceedings related to the FBI’s search of former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida. Now, the Trump-appointed federal judge has been initially assigned to oversee the former president’s new federal criminal case in Miami.
[and from another]
Revealed: Bombshell FBI Document Alleges $5 Million Bribe Paid to Joe Biden by Burisma Exec
June 8, 2023
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/revealed-bombshell-fbi-document-a...
Someone has leaked the contents of the stonewalled FBI document, form FD-1023, which alleges that President Joe Biden was paid $5 million by an executive of Ukrainian natural gas firm Burisma Holdings, where his son Hunter sat on the board.

SOZT
In that President Trump has been confirmed by a SCOTUS finding as the winner of the 2020 election and recently sworn in as such by the Senate over Memorial Day weekend, this indictment is irrelevant. So why are the Democrats pressing forward with this silly indictment? They are betting that a public admission of President Trump’s status will be endlessly delayed, perhaps through the 2024 election, so the reinstatement of President Trump will never occur. They are expecting the delays to allow a trial and guilty verdict so President Trump cannot be a candidate in 2024. They are wrong on all counts.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

New crop circle looks like big changes coming. Wobble?
[and from another]
http://cropcircleconnector.com/2023/RoundwayDown/RoundwayDown2023a....
Roundway Down, Nr Devizes, Wiltshire. Reported 11th June

SOZT
The Daily Earth Wobble has been documented by Nancy, who worked with an international team
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/orbits.htm
20 years ago. The pattern that emerged can be described as a Polar Push when the Sun is over the Pacific and the magnetic N Pole of Earth rises over the horizon, a Lean Right when the Sun is over India, a Lean Left when the Sun is over Italy, and a Bounce Back when the Sun is over the Americas. Four quadrants. This pattern is perceptible and obvious but now, as we have warned, it will become severe.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

Multiple lanes of Interstate 95 northbound in Philadelphia have collapsed after a tanker truck fire erupted underneath an overpass. The official explanation is fire but is it real? Was this lane collapse caused by the plate movements related to the New Madrid stretch and rip? What do the Zetas say.
[and from another]
I see that the I-95 bridge collapsed in Philadelphia allegedly due to a fuel truck fire. However there is a broken gas main there as well. The mainstream media is blaming the truck for the damage but I think there was a ground shift that brought down the bridge and broke the gas main which burned the truck. Is this reasonable thinking?
[and from another]
Interstate 95 Collapse: Huge Tanker Truck fire Shuts Down Highway Outside of Philadelphia
June 11, 2023
https://www.foxnews.com/us/interstate-95-collapse-huge-tanker-truck...
A portion of I-95 in Philadelphia collapsed early Sunday after a tanker truck caught fire underneath an overpass.
[and from another]
Burning Vehicle Causes part of Interstate 95 in Philadelphia to Collapse, closing Main East Coast Artery
June 11, 2023
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/06/11/interstate-95...
Interstate 95 is the main north-south highway on the East Coast and stretches from Florida through Maine to Canada. "Plan and seek alternative travel routes," the City of Philadelphia Office of Emergency Management said on Twitter.
[and from another]
https://6abc.com/interstate-95-collapse-i-95-fire-philly-overpass-t...
Sources said the tanker truck was carrying 8,500 gallons of 87-octane fuel. In the first official accounting of the wreck, state Transportation Secretary Mike Carroll said the driver was northbound "trying to navigate the curve, lost control of the vehicle, landed on its side and ruptured the tank." Once ignited, the fuel burned at a high enough heat to structurally compromise the concrete and steel I-beams of the overpass.
[and from another]
Is this hot earth in NYC?  People are saying the smoke is coming from the ground and not from Canada 
https://www.facebook.com/reel/1198860934845941?fs=e&s=TIeQ9V&am...

SOZT
Did “8,500 gallons of 87-octane fuel” melt an overpass when a tanker ruptured on a sharp I-95 turn? This was an experienced driver on a road traveled daily by thousands. This point is where several fault lines merge, so shifting ground destabilized the truck, causing it to sway and tip over. Note that this region often shows red hot on the Methane emissions charts, and on the CO charts indicating underground fires. It did not take much to ignite the fuel in the tank, giving the astonished driver a fiery grave.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

Why the flurry of quakes above India?

SOZT
What role does the future Russian Bay
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue810.htm
rip have in the pending East China lunge into the Pacific, the lunge that will likely trigger the New Madrid Finale? We have stated that a snap of the Sunda Plate will be the trigger for the China lunge, as the Sunda Plate is attached to surrounding plates and thus holds China back. The Russia Bay is per our predictions going to allow saltwater from the Indian Ocean up into the Siberian Plain only when the Pole Shift happens, but is constantly pulling apart as can be seen from the quake maps. By tweaking China toward the Pacific, this weakens the Sunda Plate connection.
EOZT

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31mr2023.htm
The Sunda Plate is breaking from the Eurasian Plate with this snap destabilizing the central China Wudu-Mabian fault line and reaching up along this fault line to the Yanshan Mountains seismic zone which touches Beijing.