ZetaTalk Chat for June 30, 2023

[Nancy Lieder]

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Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 78 years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

[Nancy Lieder]

Erdogan Wins Turkey's Election
May 28, 2023
https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/turkey-election-runoff-results...
President Recep Tayyip Erdogan won a historic third term.
[and from another]
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue671.htm
Did Turkey’s leader Erdogan die of a heart attack on July 21, 2019 at midnight? Media sources exploded with rumors, and Turkey would neither confirm nor deny. Erdogan was last seen in Albania on July 19. The Zetas promptly confirmed Erdogan’s death and predicted that a double would emerge.
[and from another]
A Balancing act: Turkey’s Misunderstood Position on Ukraine
November 9, 2022
https://www.europeanleadershipnetwork.org/commentary/a-balancing-ac...
During a visit to Turkey last week, NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg urged President Erdo?an to green-light Sweden and Finland’s accession to the Alliance. Some critics have argued that Turkey’s failure to ratify the Accession Protocols of the two Nordic countries is due to Turkey’s support of Russia. In reality, Turkey’s position is a result of its own legitimate security concerns. 
[and from another]
Turkey is Strengthening its Energy Ties with Russia
December 9, 2023
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/09/business/turkey-erdogan-energy-r...
Turkey is not participating in any embargo of Russian energy, and as a result has been able to buy Russia's deeply discounted oil. 

SOZT
When a leader dies a Double can be installed in their place. Bibi’s Double
https://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31mr2023.htm
is being run by the White Hats since 2020 to entrap the Khazarian Mafia. The Soros Double
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue540.htm
in place since 2016 was eventually replaced by the Soros family elder son, with the original Soros agenda being continued. Erdogan was replaced by a Double after a heart attack in 2019,
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue671.htm
but his political agenda was continued by his staff who quickly mustered several Doubles. Erdogan’s popularity in Turkey has once again been proven in 2023. Turkey holds the line against new NATO members such as the Ukraine. Turkey likewise sides with Russia on oil embargo issues. Thus this election is a win for Putin as well as the people of Turkey.
EOZT

Prior ZT: https://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31mr2023.htm
Bibi is a White Hat Double at present, even throughout the 2022 election. Israel is currently working as one giant sting operation to catch the remaining Khazarian Mafia who are trying to regroup in Israel. The Khazarian Mafia wants the western banking network to thrive, and would use an Israeli money laundering machine to fund or assassinate or bribe politicians as necessary.  The protests allow a cover to remove the Bibi Double, as maintaining a Double is always time consuming and the Double must operate as the Original did. The protests also allow the White Hats to identify the Khazarian Mafia participants and leadership, so they can be snared and eliminated.

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/26no2016.htm
Is George Soros dead? If so, his death is being denied. Soros is on a hit list, sought by the same people who countered the election fraud attempting to get Hillary into the White House. A Croatian newspaper reported on November 15 that Soros had died of a heart attack. Denials and cries of “hoax” were heard afterwards. Soros is 86, and certainly could have a heart attack given the recent setbacks to his agenda. Why would a Croatian newspaper be the first to break the news? Soros was born in Hungary, next door to Croatia, and is likely the most famous personage from that region. Family, being informed, would contact family and friends in Europe, and the word gets out. hose around Soros expected success in their personal endeavors based on the power of Soros, their great leader. They would delay the news forever if a double with sagging skin under the eyes could be found. Is Soros dead? Yes. He has had a mountain of setbacks lately, and more mountains before him. It did him in.

[Nancy Lieder]

What is this about?
[and from another]
https://www.cropcirclecenter.com/ccdata/2023/05/28/UK20230528_A.html
[and from another]
http://cropcircleconnector.com/2023/broadhinton/broadhinton2023.html
Broad Hinton, nr Winterbourne Bassett. Wiltshire. Reported 28th May

SOZT
What message does this Crop Circle convey? This is a legitimate design as the weaving of grain would indicate. These are clearly blades, the type used to mow hay fields – a Sickle - or used in battle in the Middle East – a Scimitar. That a 6-pointed star is used indicates a benign use of the tool – a Shatkona or Star of David. During the African Roll now just picking up the pace, the Middle East will be devastated. The Suez Canal is already being squeezed and may have to be abandoned. Israel will turn counterclockwise, the Sinai will disconnect from Egypt, and Turkey quakes will continue. The Middle East is fraught with turmoil between the Sunni and Shia and between Jew and Arab, but we do not anticipate warfare breaking out. Rather that all will realize they are brothers and help one another.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

What happened Memorial Day with the Satellite phones?
[and from another]
Impeachment in the United States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_in_the_United_States
First, the House investigates through an impeachment inquiry. Second, the House of Representatives must pass, by a simple majority of those present and voting, articles of impeachment, which constitute the formal allegation or allegations. Third, the Senate tries the accused.
[and from another]
Offices Eligible for Impeachment - Constitution Annotated
https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artII-S4-2/ALDE_0000...
How can a president be legally removed from office?
Article II, Section 4: The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
[and from another]
Inauguration of the President of the United States
https://www.usa.gov/inauguration
Inaugural events include the swearing-in ceremony, the inaugural address, and the pass in review.

SOZT
Were it not for the fact that the media reported that Satellite Phones had been distributed to the Senators, the public would have been unaware of a pending Senate role. The issue was supposed to be off the radar. The Senate has been meeting remotely for some time due to the Pandemic. Thus those who planned to be at home were given Satellite Phones. Those who planned to be traveling canceled their plans but were taken to bunkers to ensure they didn’t bolt and escape.

The Senate must be presented with the SCOTUS findings and debate next steps, per the Constitution. The Brunson material was included in the Scotus findings, as was material from the many other appeals submitted to SCOTUS. Denying these appeals was due to the fact that SCOTUS had already ruled, but making this public was to be delayed until the Junta was ready. The Junta feared civil war, and due to many other issues they were dealing with, requested SCOTUS delay their findings.

The Senate must remove Biden as President before Trump can be reinstated. Per the Constitution, this must be for cause – treason or high crimes or bribery. Any or all apply. The fact that Biden at present is a Double will be ignored as the fact that the Biden entity is a fraud can be seen from the many mask slipup videos available. VP Harris goes out with Biden as they both were on the Democrat Ticket, which automatically reinstates VP Pence. With this special Senate meeting, reinstating President Trump can occur without hesitation when the Junta is ready.
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue776-addendum.htm
EOZT

Prior 8/31/2021 ZT:
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31ag2021.htm
We have predicted that when the New Madrid turmoil occurs toward the end of 2021 or early 2022 and requires Martial Law, that the Military will casually announce that President Trump never left office, and that no one will care.

[Nancy Lieder]

These look like a representation of Nibiru Moonswirls. Why seven or is it Nibiru in middle and six swirls?
[and from another]
https://t.me/ZetaTalk_Followers/31880
[and from another]
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue172.htm
[and from another]
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue317.htm
[and from another]
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue391.htm
[and from another]
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue574.htm

SOZT
Moons Swirl tubes can form whenever many moons are chasing after the same gravity draw. The moons in a tube are both attracted to each other while at the same time dealing with gravity repulsion. A twirl inevitably starts due to gravity and magnetic attractions outside of the tube, and once started is perpetuated by motion dynamics. The first Moon Swirl tubes seen when Nibiru comes into view are formed by two Dominant Moons on either side, forming the Double Helix. These move in the direction of Nibiru’s retrograde orbit, twirling.

Since both Dominant Moons attract minor moons that form into a tube, the process of dividing the minor moons on either side of Nibiru has begun. In ancient Sumerian pictograms the moons associated with Nibiru are shown as a group of 6, divided into 3 on either side of Nibiru. Since the Dominant Moons are never far from Nibiru, Nibiru is most often central. Moon Swirls can form afar from Nibiru too and are thus seen as groups up to a dozen or more, as was the case in a Missouri sighting where a long string of moons reflected light down through a break in the clouds.
EOZT

Prior 6/15/1997 ZT: 
http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p91.htm
Planet X's moons travel like a string of pearls behind the monster traveling planet.

[J A]

If Trump is reinstated, does that mean he will only be President publically for less than two years?

Wouldn't it be better to just have him be reelected for 2024?

[Nancy Lieder]

2024 election would only put him in charge (officially) by January 2025! Every day under Biden is painful. 

J A said:

If Trump is reinstated, does that mean he will only be President publically for less than two years? Wouldn't it be better to just have him be reelected for 2024?

[Howard Boldt]

Per the Zetas, full, public Martial Law will soon come about. It seems that that will make whoever is the figure of President fairly irrelevant, but better to have someone who is wise, good and admired - a true leader. The Junta, through the military, will more fully be in charge of everything under ML, probably in concert with a very cooperative President and others. Uncooperative, destructive politicians will probably mostly be ignored, thwarted and arrested. Elections will probably not be held during all the intense strife to come and not during ML. I think this all may keep whoever is President in that position indefinitely, as long as they're up for the task. Which probably means Trump, in the near future. USA may have already seen its last national election. Of this era, at least. Maybe elections will resume in The Aftertime, but maybe not for a decade or several. I am speculating.  

J A said:

If Trump is reinstated, does that mean he will only be President publically for less than two years?

Wouldn't it be better to just have him be reelected for 2024?

[John Sheldon]

https://t.me/KabamurTaygeta

Saw this yesterday on Kab Telegram channel.  Not sure if it is real, or if it is worth commenting on.  Appears to be a new crop circle in Italy from May 30, 2023.   Sorry to post if you have already seen it.  Source:  https://www.quibrescia.it/curiosita/2023/05/30/capriano-avvistato-m...

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted and have a few more to add. It is the CC season. 

John Sheldon said:

https://t.me/KabamurTaygeta

Saw this yesterday on Kab Telegram channel. 

Not sure if it is real, or if it is worth commenting on.  Appears to be a new crop circle in Italy from May 30, 2023.   Sorry to post if you have already seen it. 
[and from another]
https://t.me/KabamurTaygeta
[and from another]
https://www.quibrescia.it/curiosita/2023/05/30/capriano-avvistato-m...
[and from another]
http://cropcircleconnector.com/2023/fieldbarn/FieldBarn2023.html

SOZT
Where in recent years many of the Crop Circle designs have been frauds, in 2023 the three entries are all legitimate. The Italy design represents the scope of Nibiru’s influence, which is engulfing the Earth. The Petrol Blobs, aflame at times, are engulfing the Earth as are the Red Dust clouds. The magnetic influence from Nibiru’s N Pole is now growing. The UK Field Barn design is a timeline showing that the retrograde orbit of Nibiru is sweeping the Nibiru Complex to consume the Earth in its effects, with a Severe Wobble effect where day becomes night likely during this process.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

Can the Zetas do a ZT on the India train crash? How did the Indo-Eurasian stretch cause it.
[and from another]
Nearly 300 Killed in One of India's Deadliest Train Accidents
May 3, 2023
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/india-train-derailment-300-killed-in-o...
At least 288 people have been killed and more than 850 others injured in a train accident involving three trains in India's eastern state of Odisha, according to officials. At least three trains were involved in the accident on Friday night. There is no official version of the sequence of events. But according to local news media reports and eyewitnesses, a passenger train, the Coromandel Shalimar Express, derailed and hit stationery goods train at about 6:50 pm local time – resulting in many coaches flipping over. Then after about 20 minutes, the Yeshvantpur-Howrah Superfast train, approaching the accident site, rammed into the derailed coaches on the adjacent track.  In 1981, more than 800 people were killed when a passenger train derailed and fell into a river in the eastern state of Bihar during a cyclone. More than 300 people were killed in 1995 when Purushottam Express collided with a stationary train in central Uttar Pradesh state. In 2016, 152 people were killed when a passenger train derailed in the same state.

SOZT
As the Indo-Australian Plate is tilted and pushed under the Himalayas, there is pressure on India. Mountainous areas have more solid rock so win in any contest, while low lands with thin crust crumble. Looking at a relief map of the state of Odisha, one can see the 2023 train wreck occurred in a thin crust area between coastal mountains. The signals for the colliding trains failed due to electronic screech from stressed rock. Thus the 3 trains were, essentially, unstoppable.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

What we Know about Nova Kakhovka Dam Attack
June 6, 2023
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65818705.amp
The Kakhovka Hydroelectric Power Plant is in the city of Nova Kakhovka in Ukraine's Kherson region, which is currently under Russian occupation. It was built in the Soviet era and is one of six dams that sit along the Dnipro river, which stretches all the way from the very north of the country into the sea in the south. Stills and video show a massive breach in the dam, with water surging through it and flooding downstream in the direction of Kherson. It's unclear when exactly the dam was first damaged, but satellite images verified by the BBC suggest its condition has deteriorated over a number of days. A road across the dam appears to be damaged from 2 June, but there does not seem to be a change to the flow of the water until 6 June when the breach of the wall and collapse of nearby buildings can be clearly seen on video. It is currently unclear whether the damage to the road is linked to the 6 June breach.

SOZT
Although the Ukraine leadership in Kiev has tried to disable Russian supply lines to the Crimea in the past, using a car bomb to disable the bridge to the Crimea,
http://zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue838.htm
and although the Ukraine has attempted to blow up the nuclear facility
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue835.htm
in Zaporozhye, the problems with the Nova Kakhovka Dam are not due to Ukraine mischief nor by Russian hands. The Eurasia Plate is in an extreme stretch at present, as earthquake maps show. Rivers run along thin drooping crust, seeking as water does the lowest level. These 3 major rivers in the Ukraine show the vulnerability of the dam location, which pulled apart to cause the dam to breach.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

Hi can the zetas talk about all the forest fires going on in Quebec? Is it manmade? It is really not common what is going on right now they are letting cities burning. 
[and from another]
“We will have to let Clova burn,” says François Legault
June 5, 2023
https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2023/06/05/on-va-etre-oblige-de-laisser...
François Legault announced at a press conference on Monday afternoon that it was the end for the municipality of Clova, in Mauricie, because of the forest fires raging in the region. Crews are trying to protect the municipality by carrying out ground work and helicopter spraying.

SOZT
Until the New Madrid Rupture pulls the Mainland and SE Portions of N America apart, there will be extreme dynamics pulling on the Mainland. As the Pacific compresses, the Mainland is pulled West and is pulled down heavily onto Mexico. The tug-of-war between the Portions shows up along the Mississippi River and under the Seaway in the record of almost constant building collapses, pipeline breaks, and train derailments. But the tugging that Canada must endure is relatively new, and is due to the African Roll continually pulling the SE Portion to the East.

The northeast portion of the N American Plate above the Seaway is firmly attached to the Eurasian Plate. These plates are bonded through the Arctic and remain bonded at Iceland and Norway until they reach Africa. As the Africa Roll picks up the pace, the Mainland Portion attempts to yaw open the Seaway. Stretch zone tugging is a silent matter, but the rock layers nevertheless pull apart, release methane from trapped vegetation, and cause underground fires. Thus Canadian provinces are showing SO2 and CO emission and wildfires emerge.
EOZT