ZetaTalk Chat for November 30, 2022

[Nancy Lieder]

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Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 78 years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

[Nancy Lieder]

Very interesting fireball with flashing lights! 
[and from another]
UFO escorting a fireball in Brazil
November 13, 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FERISInBGU4
[and from another]
https://t.me/ZetaTalk_Followers/22181

SOZT
Why does this slow-moving fireball have a cluster of UFOs around it? UFO displays have become mundane, after years of these displays. They moved from one darting light to a plethora of orbs painting a scenario in the sky. The UFO makers are now seeking to spark renewed interest. This Brazil UFO display includes a real fireball, encouraged to move slowly in a horizontal manner, so the people below will focus on the increase of debris inbound of late. The telepathic message? More flaming debris will arrive!
EOZT

[Kris H]

If Donald Trump is the secret US President due to martial law, how can he run for a 3rd term?

[Nancy Lieder]

You are watching a movie. He had one term, officially, and if the 2020 results are corrected by the SCOTUS finding, there would be a 3rd term in 2024.  And we are under Martial Law since Fall of 2015 so except for civilian panic fears we would hear the truth. Meanwhile, we are wathcing a movie. Question declined,. 

Kris H said:

If Donald Trump is the secret US President due to martial law, how can he run for a 3rd term?

[Nancy Lieder]

Why are the only Heliplots responding to quakes in N America, where it appears there are no quakes!

SOZT
On this very revealing day the SO2 maps and the Heliplots presented the same picture, for those with eyes to see. For the entire globe, the only quake response on the Heliplots were in N America where no quakes occurred. The tugging on the N America Plate beyond its borders was reflected in the Heliplot for Norway, where the Mainland is trying to pull away from the Eurasian Plate, and at Ecuador where the SE Portion is holding the Caribbean back from rolling into the Pacific. What is the intense stress within the N American Plate that is causing the Heliplots to jitter there?

The Mainland Portion is wanting to drop into the Pacific, where the shifting of the four plates that comprise the Pacific Plate are providing an opening. Of course, the Mainland cannot slide there until it separates from the SE Portion, which is glued at present to the African Plate. Meanwhile the Mainland Portion is ripped apart along a diagonal line from the lands above the Seaway down through middle America and Mexico. The entire N American Plate is being torn into pieces, a trauma that will only cease when the New Madrid Fault Line ruptures.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

Do the Zetas have any comment regarding the sheep in China walking in circles for days?  Is it the result of the Earth changes?
[and from another]
Massive flock of sheep has been walking in a circle for 12 days straight in China
November 17, 2022
https://nypost.com/2022/11/17/sheep-filmed-walking-in-circle-for-12...
Dozens of sheep have been eerily walking around in a circle for 12 days straight in northern China’s Inner Mongolia region. The bizarre behavior, captured on surveillance video, shows the large flock continuously marching clockwise in a nearly perfect circle on a farm.
[and from another]
A Flock of Sheep has been Walking in a Circle for 12 Days, and Nobody Knows Why: 'Weird'
November 18, 2022
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/a-flock-of-sheep-has-been-walking-i...
A flock of sheep has been walking in a circle for at least 12 days in Mongolia. The sheep owner, Ms. Miao, claimed a few sheep started before a whole flock joined. Ms. Miao has 34 sheep pens, but only pen 13 took up the strange behavior. If the sheep are infected, which is associated with spoilt silage, the behavior wouldn’t be out of the ordinary, except for one major factor. According to The Merck Manual, in sheep and goats with listeriosis, death usually occurs within 24 to 48 hours of symptoms appearing.
[and from another]
Listeriosis_in_animals
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Listeriosis_in_animals
In sheep, the disease is also called "circling disease". The most obvious signs for the veterinarians are neurological, especially lateral deviation of the neck and head.
[and from another]
Listeriosis
https://agriculture.vic.gov.au/biosecurity/animal-diseases/sheep-di...
Neurological form: can affect any breed and at any age; often circling, staggering, head tilt, off-feed, found dead. Producers reported clinical signs including staggering, convulsions, head tilt, circling, recumbency, paddling of the limbs and death in 0.5 to 10 per cent of the flock. 

SOZT
The circling sheep in Mongolia would be a classic case of Listeriosis except that the circling behavior seems limited to one pen and there has not been any sheep death or illness to confirm Listeriosis. Thus this curious circling is reported in the media as a ‘mystery”. Almost the entire flock in Pen 13 is circling, a follow-the-leader behavior common in sheep. If Listeriosis circling is caused by brain damage, then is there another similar cause at play?

As can be seen from the SO2 maps, China is tearing apart, a result of the Eurasian Plate stretch. Although relatively high ground, the tugging on rock strata has a long reach and can be greatest where hard rock resists. Methane release has been known to kill flocks of birds and pods of fish, and even antelope herds or sheep if they are located above a methane release. For the Mongolian circling sheep mystery, the answer is that Pen 13 is above a crack in the rock, allowing methane to cause brain damage in selective sheep there.
EOZT

[Stanislav]

Hi Nancy and Zetas,

What will be the height of the European tsunami given the fact that the movement of the plates has been slowed down? The last time I asked the answer was that it is in the hands of the COW.

Thank you :)

[Nancy Lieder]

Declined as there is at present NO CHANGE expected for the Plate Movement or resulting tsunami to both the EU and US coastlines. The slowdown in the past was the Humming Boxes along fault lines, and the temporary Monoliths. The COW got scolded for that so had to even speed things up to get back on schedule. Their slowdown had impacted progress elsewhere in the Universe, I am to understand. The slowdowns did not affect the ultimate result. 

http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue741.htm

The tsunami waves are a factor of the Plate Movement only. Plates pull apart, water pours into voids and rebounds, and voile there is your tsunami. 

http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/30no2020.htm

This Utah monolith was not intended to be discovered by man. Is it similar to the humming boxes placed by benign aliens along fault lines to slow the progress of the 7 of 10 plate movements? This is indeed its purpose, but why is it placed in the center of the N American continent? The Council of Worlds determined to delay the New Madrid adjustment until the 2020 Presidential election in the US was a settled issue. During the current 7 of 10 Plate Movements, the San Andreas has been very active, but this has not seemed to affect land to the East. This monolith and many similar monoliths are the reason for the delay.

Stanislav said:

What will be the height of the European tsunami given the fact that the movement of the plates has been slowed down?

[Stanislav]

The Zetas have said in the past that any tsunami hitting Europe would be greatly reduced but did not mention how much. We have figures that were announced in 2010, but they are no longer relevant. For example, for the UK, this figure was 200-300 feet, but what is it now?

ZetaTalk Chat Q&A for March 7, 2015. As we have stated, any tsunami striking Europe will be vastly reduced by the slowed pace of the New Madrid adjustment.

http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx316.htm

Thank you for your work

Nancy Lieder said:

Declined as there is at present NO CHANGE expected for the Plate Movement or resulting tsunami to both the EU and US coastlines. The slowdown in the past was the Humming Boxes along fault lines, and the temporary Monoliths. The COW got scolded for that so had to even speed things up to get back on schedule. Their slowdown had impacted progress elsewhere in the Universe, I am to understand. The slowdowns did not affect the ultimate result. 

http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue741.htm

The tsunami waves are a factor of the Plate Movement only. Plates pull apart, water pours into voids and rebounds, and voile there is your tsunami. 

http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/30no2020.htm

This Utah monolith was not intended to be discovered by man. Is it similar to the humming boxes placed by benign aliens along fault lines to slow the progress of the 7 of 10 plate movements? This is indeed its purpose, but why is it placed in the center of the N American continent? The Council of Worlds determined to delay the New Madrid adjustment until the 2020 Presidential election in the US was a settled issue. During the current 7 of 10 Plate Movements, the San Andreas has been very active, but this has not seemed to affect land to the East. This monolith and many similar monoliths are the reason for the delay.

Stanislav said:

What will be the height of the European tsunami given the fact that the movement of the plates has been slowed down?

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted as New Madrid should be a focus at this time anyway. But just because a speeding car slows down for awhile, it is the speed it returns to before the crash that determines the impact. Nothing has changed re the Plate Movements. If anything, I suspect they may be more violent. 

Stanislav said:

The Zetas have said in the past that any tsunami hitting Europe would be greatly reduced but did not mention how much. 

We have figures that were announced in 2010, but they are no longer relevant. For example, for the UK, this figure was 200-300 feet, but what is it now?
[and from another]
European Tsunami (2010)
http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx316.htm
[and from another]
7 of 10 Progress (2015)
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue442.htm
[and from another]
New Madrid Begins (2019)
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue682.htm
[and from another]
New Madrid Delay (2020)
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue741.htm

SOZT
When originally describing the New Madrid rupture
http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx050.htm
in 2010 we described the European tsunami
http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx316.htm
in accordance with these 7 of 10 Plate Movements. In that a prime goal of the Council of Worlds is to alert the people of Earth to the coming passage of Nibiru, the Council allowed the Humming Boxes
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue282.htm
(discovered in 2012) to slow the effect on the N American Continent. Obama, incarnated with the soul of Lincoln, was determined to announce the presence of Nibiru, and the Council wanted to allow him time to do so.

As we stated in early 2015, had the Humming Boxes remained in place,
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/07mr2015.htm
the European Tsunami would have been modulated. But as we stated at the end of 2015, Obama lacked courage
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue496.htm
and failed. Thus the Humming Boxes were removed. Back on track, the New Madrid Fault Line separation up along the Mississippi River began with the collapse of the Hard Rock Hotel
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue682.htm
in 2019. Then in November 2020 Monoliths were discovered
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/30no2020.htm
in the American West.

The Monoliths were again a delaying tactic by the Council to allow the US 2020 elections to complete. The Nibiru coverup was intense but the Council viewed the best chance of a US President making the announcement was in President Trump’s hands, and as expected he swept the election but the election fraud, in the hands of man, was stronger. There is a Non-Interference Rule
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta120.htm
whereby aliens visiting Earth cannot interfere with mankind’s free will. Thus the outcome of mankind’s free will cannot be accurately predicted. After the 2020 elections, the Monoliths were removed.

Once again the New Madrid Fault Line rupture was back on schedule. What has previously not been covered in ZetaTalk is the overall effect of the Council’s delays on the ultimate outcome. We have stated that the Council considers the Pole Shift as a result of the Nibiru Passage to be a natural event, and thus allowed to happen. This is not a Council determination, but a rule imposed by those above the Council. Thus the Council was scolded for their delays, which impacted plans for the Universe at large, and ordered to ensure that the ultimate timeline would be in effect.

Accordingly, the Council determined to utilize a Severe Wobble
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/30ju2021.htm
to nudge the scripted drama of the 7 of 10 Plate Movements back on schedule. We the Zetas have stated that the New Madrid Rupture will be in effect by the end of 2022, and said this with confidence because of the Council’s ruling. As can be seen from the stress on the N American Continent and the Middle East where the rock hook under Turkey is ready to snap, the stage is set. The result of the New Madrid Adjustment will be in accordance with our original description, and not softened.
EOZT

Prior 2010 ZT:
http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx316.htm
France can anticipate a tsunami of 100 feet, Spain perhaps 30-40 feet, the UK 200-300 feet, and Norway 50-75 feet. The full brunt of the tsunami that strikes the UK will also wash through the English Channel, entering the North Sea, and clashing with any flow coming down from the Norwegian Sea. The lowlands in the North Sea can expect a tsunami an estimated 100 foot high. The speed and force of the tsunami as it reaches these lowlands will be lessened, however, so blockades such as storm doors may be somewhat useful in countries such as the Netherlands. Nevertheless, much flooding will occur, forcing the residents in these countries to face what is coming for them during the pole shift.

Prior 2010 ZT:
http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx050.htm
For the New Madrid, which will include the European tsunami in its effects, there will be one large jolt with a subsequent and almost immediate tearing of the Atlantic. We have stated that the European tsunami will be the largest, but smaller ones will follow in time. Likewise for the New Madrid adjustment, which involve a tearing of the entire N American continent from the seaway down to Mexico. This adjustment will not occur until minor rock fingers have been steadily broken in a number of places. 

Prior 2/18/2012 ZT: 
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/18fe2012.htm
These sealed metal boxes are indeed alien, placed along significant coastlines to abort sudden and jolting plate movements. The number of boxes discovered by mankind, uncloaked and visible, are a miniscule number compared to the total in use, which range in the thousands. Most are under water. They are supposed to be cloaked, so that humans can look right at them and not see them, but mistakes are made in the rush to place the boxes, on occasion, so some are left visible. Have governments removed them and tried to crack them open? Yes, but the boxes disappear from storage, without a trace.

Prior 3/7/2015 ZT:
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/07mr2015.htm
Where the 7 of 10 plate movements had been slowed and modulated to allow Obama and his partners a chance to inform the common man about the pending passage, it is not possible to just stop the 7 of 10 plate movements. At present, the New Madrid adjustment is perhaps at only 2%, but as the 7 of 10 movements will accelerate, this will now rapidly change. As we have stated, any tsunami striking Europe will be vastly reduced by the slowed pace of the New Madrid adjustment.

Prior 11/20/2020 ZT:
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/30no2020.htm
This Utah monolith was not intended to be discovered by man. Is it similar to the humming boxes placed by benign aliens along fault lines to slow the progress of the 7 of 10 plate movements? This is indeed its purpose, but why is it placed in the center of the N American continent? The Council of Worlds determined to delay the New Madrid adjustment until the 2020 Presidential election in the US was a settled issue. During the current 7 of 10 Plate Movements, the San Andreas has been very active, but this has not seemed to affect land to the East. This monolith and many similar monoliths are the reason for the delay.

Prior 6/30/2021 ZT:
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/30ju2021.htm
The Council of Worlds has approved increasingly severe wobble, to increase gradually so as not to panic the people. This wobble will proceed to the extent that the Sun may rise in the North, or the globe turn upside down temporarily, with rotation seeming to move from East to West during that time. Meanwhile, those media outlets suppressing the truth and spewing lies, such as CNN and MSNBC, will be silenced. They will have no voice. Nibiru visibility is already present but will be increased during this time.

[Nancy Lieder]

More incidences of animals, even insects running in circles - are these all methane-induced?
[and from another]
I saw one that had a herd being run thru a city but had turned to face some doors and was circling BUT it had people on 3 sides around the circle and it looked like they were trying to evade the people, not other reason.
[and from another]
Caterpillars in Venezuela
https://t.me/ZetaTalk_Followers/22730
On 11/20/2022 in Aragua, Venezuela, another circuit race was held, however, these were not sheep, but caterpillars that always moved only in circles.
[and from another]
India
https://www.facebook.com/IndiaToday/videos/522925869713607
Army ants always work in a group and walk in an organised format from their food to their colonies. They rely on pheromones to track the ones in front. But sometimes, they are separated from the main foraging party, lose the pheromone track and begin to follow one another, forming a continuously rotating circle, commonly known as a "Death Circle" - a death trap where they keep moving in a loop and ultimately die of exhaustion. This video shows the same phenomenon. While some ants can be seen lying dead, others on the outer borders can be seen moving out and going back in to move in circles.
[and from another]
Ants
https://www.facebook.com/kygal37/videos/533262841980639
Circle Back, maybe 5G frequency. Look if you put a cell phone on the sidewalk, ants walk in circles.
[and from another]
Ants
https://www.facebook.com/Sciwriter.org/videos/925110868456831
An ant mill is an observable phenomenon in which a group of army ants becomes separated from the main foraging party, loses the pheromone track, and begins to follow one another, forming a continuously rotating circle, which is commonly referred to as a "death spiral" because the ants may eventually die of exhaustion. It has been replicated in laboratories and created in ant colony simulations.? The phenomenon is a byproduct of ant colonies' self-organizing structure. Each ant follows the ant in front of it until a slight deviation occurs, usually due to an environmental trigger, and an ant mill forms. William Beebe discovered an ant mill in 1921, measuring 1200 feet (370 meters) in circumference. Each ant took two and a half hours to complete one revolution. Similar behavior has been observed in processionary caterpillars and fish.?
[and from another]
Antmill
https://www.facebook.com/greg2future/videos/819395102711601
[and from another]
https://www.britannica.com/story/do-lemmings-really-commit-mass-sui...
Lemmings do not commit suicide. However, this particular myth is based on some actual lemming behaviors. Lemmings have large population booms every three or four years. When the concentration of lemmings becomes too high in one area, a large group will set out in search of a new home.

SOZT
Instincts are powerful motivators, often intrinsic to the survival of a species. The curious circling behavior of insects can be attributed to the programming that leads them to food. Army Ants swarm periodically when they set out to forage because to cross rivers or climb heights, they need the mass of their fellow ant bodies to form a bridge or pole. Circling can occur when the lead ants inadvertently form a heap, triggering the heaping mechanism.

Insects also use pheromones to place paths to guide them to food sources or to the nest. Caterpillar circling can be ascribed to this instinct where a well-fed caterpillar emits pheromones, and others then seek this same food source. The path to food is not linear, so a couple of caterpillars atop an abundant food source can result in a circle of those following.

Likewise with the famous lemmings dashing off a cliff, which is not deliberate but inadvertent. They leave in a group to avoid starvation but without other lemmings they cannot reproduce. Thus, the exiting crowd leaves, determined to seek food and a new home, but a tiny lemming does not have the ability to see over the horizon and is sometimes led astray.
EOZT

[Stanislav]

Hi Nancy and Zetas,

Could the Zetas comment?

30 October, 2022. Indonesia is still moving its capital to Nusantara despite rising public opposition

Jakarta is also facing immense climate pressures from rising sea levels, as 40 percent of the city is situated below sea level. To exacerbate the issue, the city is also sinking at a rate of 11 inches per year in some areas due to the overuse of underground aquifers below the city.

https://globalvoices.org/2022/10/30/indonesia-is-still-moving-its-c...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nusantara_(planned_city)

Thank you :)

[Nancy Lieder]

The Zetas have commented on this. Jakarta knows what is coming. Borneo will survive the scouring water coming from Pacific to Indian Ocean. And this move has been planned for a decade. 

http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue680.htm

http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/08ag2015.htm

http://zetatalk.com/info/tinfx340.htm

Stanislav said:

30 October, 2022. Indonesia is still moving its capital to Nusantara despite rising public opposition