ZetaTalk Chat for December 31, 2021

[Nancy Lieder]

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Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 78 years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted for new ZT

Kamil Rak said:

Do the Zetas want to say something about the 50 or so earthquakes that struck the coast of Oregon today?

 If the USGS downgrades earthquakes by 4 magnitudes, the quakes in reality were 8-9 in magnitude!
[and from another]
Zetas RIGHT Again! They predicted this. Japan quakes and TO THE DAY Vancouver and BC had there terrible flooding and no it was not all about rain.
[and from another]
50 earthquakes hit off the Oregon coast, but scientists say they're no great shakes
December 8, 2021
https://www.npr.org/2021/12/08/1062365995/50-earthquakes-hit-off-th...
The Blanco Fault Zone is a transform, or strike-slip, boundary; that means it's where tectonic plates slide along one another. The most dangerous and powerful faults are usually seen in subduction zones, where one plate dives beneath another.
[and from another]
Sifting Through Mud, Flooded Canadians Fear Next Disaster
November 29, 2021
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/29/world/canada/british-columbia-fl...
Now, the region is facing washed-out roads and highways, mud-clogged houses and destroyed bridges after nearly a foot of rain poured from a weather event known as an atmospheric river - long bands of water vapor that form over the Pacific Ocean and drift to North America every fall and winter.

SOZT
In detailing the 7 of 10 Plate Movements in 2010 we predicted that the New Madrid Adjustment would be preceded by several great quakes in Japan. We also stated that flooding in Victoria
http://www.zetatalk.com/7of10/7of10-57.htm
on Vancouver Island would occur up to a depth of 20 feet almost instantly after those Japan quakes. As can be seen from quake statistics and news articles for November 29, this occurred. Where blamed on rain, the extensive flooding to Victoria and the region was from a high and deep tide. This was not a tsunami wave but resulted from a compressed Pacific. Less space for the waters of the Pacific and thus temporarily pushed higher across the Pacific from Japan.

How did we, the Zetas, know that this would occur in the weeks ahead of the New Madrid unzipping? Like watching a game of chess where the moves and counter moves can be anticipated well ahead of time, we forecast the tightening bow on the N American Continent and the current slide of the Mainland Portion toward the SW and into the Pacific. The Seaway
http://www.zetatalk.com/7of10/7of10-55.htm
is distressed, pulling apart, and as the bow shifts along the West Coast there is increased rock distress along the San Andreas,
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta450.htm
a matter we also predicted to occur ahead of the New Madrid Adjustment. The New Madrid unzipping is but a moment away now.
EOZT

Prior 2010 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/7of10/7of10-57.htm
A jolt to the Juan de Fuca Plate, because of adjustments in the Pacific following the Japan quakes, will cause these strata to slip. Much of Victoria will find water in its streets to a depth of 20 feet, with little warning as the reaction to the Japan quakes will come across the Pacific from plates pushing plates with lightning speed. This is not a tsunami.

Prior 8/21/2010 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/7of10/7of10-55.htm
We've made the statement that Japan will experience several 8+ magnitude quakes prior to the New Madrid adjustment on the N American continent. These Japanese quakes will allow the northern parts of the Pacific plates to shift, and this has repercussions on fault lines in the N American continent. Vancouver Island will have some jolts, in sympathy, and a sloshing Pacific in the straits off Victoria can be expected. In sympathy with the large quakes in Japan, the slowly tearing St. Lawrence Seaway will likewise snap.

Prior 4/26/2008 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta450.htm
The fact that there is a bow along the West Coast is what in fact prevents a major adjustment along the San Andreas until the New Madrid adjusts. This rock is in compression now, along a curve, and the slip slide of the San Andreas has more friction than usual to prevent any movement.

[Stanislav]

Hi Nancy and Zetas,

About demography. Can the Zetas add something if needed?

Elon Musk says there aren't 'enough people,' birthrate could threaten human civilization

7 December, 2021

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2021/12/07/elon-musk-...

"I think one of the biggest risks to civilization is the low birth rate and the rapidly declining birthrate," Musk said at the Wall Street Journal's annual CEO Council.

China's birthrate just hit another record low. But the worst is yet to come

2 December, 2021

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/12/01/china/china-birthrate-2020-mic-i...

China's fertility rate stood at just 1.3 last year -- among the lowest in the world and even lower than 1.34 in Japan. But China's GDP per capita is only one fourth of Japan's. "If you look at big cities in China, like Shanghai and Beijing, their fertility rate is already the lowest in the world -- at about 0.7."

In a first, India's fertility rate falls below replacement level

26 November, 2021

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/india-fertilitaty-rate-declin...

Replacement level is the level of fertility at which a population replaces itself exactly from one generation to the next. According to the United Nations (UN), in countries with a Total Fertility Rate lower than 2.1, a generation is not producing enough children to replace itself. Such a situation results in an outright reduction in the population of that country.

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted for the larger question about declining birth rates. Not as a reaction to anything Musk says as I and the Zetas have zero respect for his agendas. 

Stanislav said:

About demography. Can the Zetas add something if needed?

[and from another]
Elon Musk says there Aren't 'Enough People,' Birthrate could Threaten Human Civilization
December 7, 2021
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2021/12/07/elon-musk-...
"I think one of the biggest risks to civilization is the low birth rate and the rapidly declining birthrate," Musk said at the Wall Street Journal's annual CEO Council.
[and from another]
China's Birthrate just Hit another Record Low. But the Worst is Yet to Come
December 2, 2021
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/12/01/china/china-birthrate-2020-mic-i...
China's fertility rate stood at just 1.3 last year -- among the lowest in the world and even lower than 1.34 in Japan. But China's GDP per capita is only one fourth of Japan's. "If you look at big cities in China, like Shanghai and Beijing, their fertility rate is already the lowest in the world -- at about 0.7."
[and from another]
In a First, India's Fertility Rate Falls Below Replacement Level
November 26, 2021
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/india-fertilitaty-rate-declin...
Replacement level is the level of fertility at which a population replaces itself exactly from one generation to the next. According to the United Nations (UN), in countries with a Total Fertility Rate lower than 2.1, a generation is not producing enough children to replace itself. Such a situation results in an outright reduction in the population of that country.

SOZT
The population explosion began at the start of the Industrial Revolution 200 years ago. Human society had progressed from an agrarian society where 95% of the population needed to be working the farms in order to feed the populace. Mechanized farming and food distribution began. This freed human resources for advances in other fields such as medicine. The result was less infant mortality and longer lives. Culturally, large families had been desired so the farms could be worked or for a survivor to care for the parents in their old age. Thus, all factors pressed toward a population explosion.

Birth control is used most extensively in developed countries, but when each couple has two children the explosion still continued. Thus, China's one child policy. Now that starvation looms worldwide, how to feed all those mouths? One after another in country after country the birth rate has dropped below zero because potential parents do not see the world as a good place for their offspring. In 2019
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue643.htm
Canada, Japan, and Chile had a negative birth rate, and now the USA, Russia, and even India are joining those ranks. The establishment considers this a bad thing, but is it?

We have long stated that the years leading into the Pole Shift and the Aftertime should not be a time of child bearing.
http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p03.htm
Lack of medical services and starvation alone would advise against it. Potential parents should have themselves sterilized. Children that make it through will be the parents of the future.
https://www.zetatalk.com/hybrids/h21.htm
Why then is Musk advising a return to the population explosion? Musk is the founder of SpaceX, Tesla, The Boring Company, and Neuralink and is still claiming that man will colonize Mars.
https://zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue582.htm
Musk is known for his enthusiasm and futuristic vision.

Musk is vying for funds from that portion of the populace that will cling to the hope that his view of the future is correct. Where we the Zetas have described the broken link
http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p105.htm
scenario, where a missing part or component in the supply chain can doom mankind's infrastructure, Musk is claiming that mankind will prevail and the future under his direction will be rosy. Given the die-off that will occur soon during the Pole Shift, he and others among the elite feel they need a large population that can withstand the decimation. This benefits the elite while mankind would suffer.
EOZT

Prior 1995 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p03.htm
We would suggest birth control, without argument, as the infant mortality rate will take out almost all born during the first few after years. Take pity on the mothers, who will share scarce food with a fetus only to see it born dead or struggle unsuccessfully for life.

Prior 1995 ZT: https://www.zetatalk.com/hybrids/h21.htm
Given the population explosion, why wouldn't the human race be back in business in a hurry after the cataclysms? A high mortality rate, where babies won't survive, and the birth rate will be less than zero. So far less, that the replacement will be almost nil. Combine this with the dropping fertility of the potential parents, and this will be devastating. Even though you may have many potential parents among the survivors, after 25 years of a nuclear winter, worldwide, most of these parents will be past the point of fertility, or at least the mothers will be. Robust fertility, and infant viability, will come too late. This is the situation after every pole shift.

[Stanislav]

Hi Nancy and Zetas,

Interesting question: The Zetas said suicide is legal in their society. But what do Spiritual Guides think about this? How do they assess this decision?

Thank you

[Derrick Johnson]

That particular action (like all actions) would be judged based on why; the Zetas have said the following regarding suicide

http://www.zetatalk.com/beinghum/b14.htm

We, the Zetas, believe in the right to suicide. Whose life is it, anyway? Suicide has been given a bad name in human societies, by association. The mad man, convinced he has committed crimes in fact not done, destroys his good life. A waste. In fact, this seldom happens, and is much more dramatized in fiction than occurs in fact. Most suicide is undertaken after much agonizing and debate. Most suicide is undertaken when life is truly intolerable, because of never ending pain or because the life circumstances cannot and will not change and are emotionally and mentally intolerable. The humans have cast about for years, seeking solutions, and none are to be found. They are in agony, and wish release. Most suicides do not even hamper others, but are seen as a relief. At last, the others no longer need participate as spectators in the agony. The tortured is at rest.

http://www.zetatalk.com/beinghum/b48.htm

“Where suicide to end a life of chronic physical or psychological pain is understandable”

http://www.zetatalk.com/rules/r32.htm

‘In 4th Density Service-to-Others the individual is in charge of their life. The only instance where others are allowed to interfere is where the safety of the others is threatened. As all are in Service-to-Others, this is a rare instance indeed. In frank terms, this means that if one wishes to starve to death to experience how this feels, to have empathy for those who have had these experiences in their past - they would be allowed to starve - no interference. “

Stanislav said:

Hi Nancy and Zetas,

Interesting question: The Zetas said suicide is legal in their society. But what do Spiritual Guides think about this? How do they assess this decision?

Thank you

[Nancy Lieder]

Declined as Derrick answered it appropriately. 

Stanislav said:

The Zetas said suicide is legal in their society.

[39mo185h7h7oi]

More than 30 tornadoes have been reported in at least six states, including Missouri, Tennessee and Mississippi. A stretch of more than 250 miles from Arkansas to Kentucky might have been hit by one violent, long-track twister, CNN meteorologists say.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/11/weather/severe-weather-tornadoes-sat...

Are the storms a result of the increasing severe wobble done by the Council of Worlds?

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted

Kamil Rak said:

Are the storms a result of the increasing severe wobble done by the Council of Worlds?

[and from another]
At Least 70 Feared Dead in Kentucky Alone,
December 11, 2021
https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/11/weather/severe-weather-tornadoes-sat...
More than 30 tornadoes have been reported in at least six states, including Missouri, Tennessee and Mississippi. A stretch of more than 250 miles from Arkansas to Kentucky might have been hit by one violent, long-track twister, CNN meteorologists say.
[and from another]
Tornadoes Rip across 5 States, at least 70 Dead
December 11, 2021 https://nypost.com/2021/12/11/tornadoes-rip-across-5-states-at-leas...
The towns of Mayfield and Dawson Springs, Kentucky, were both leveled by the powerful twister. Everything along the line of this tornado, that touched down and stayed down for 227 miles, over 200 in Kentucky, has been severely and significantly impacted.  Four likely tornadoes tore through several counties across the state, with one storm ripping across southwestern Tennessee and the western half of Kentucky.
[and from another]
At least 70 are Killed by EIGHTEEN Tornadoes in Kentucky's Deadliest Storm in 130 Years: More than 100 Deaths Expected across Six States as Twisters Level Entire Towns
December 11, 2021
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10299117/At-50-DEAD-Kentuc...
The genesis of the tornado outbreak was a series of overnight thunderstorms, including a super cell storm that formed in northeast Arkansas. That storm moved from Arkansas and Missouri and into Tennessee and Kentucky. Some reports suggested that the record for the longest single tornado - 219 miles - could have been broken, and that it had crossed four states, breaking another record.Observers speculated that many of tornadoes were at four or even five on the Enhanced Fujita (EF) scale. Wind speeds of between 136 and 165mph are found in EF4 tornados, and of 200mpg in EF5 tornados. 'This tornado is so powerful it literally broke Radarscope velocity,' tweeted @WxAtlantic. And across the region, tornadoes on Friday night ripped through parts of Missouri, Arkansas, Tennessee and Kentucky - with one becoming what a storm chaser said was the first quad-state tornado in U.S. history.
[and from another]
Storm Barra: Extremely Dangerous Double Bomb Cyclone Explodes over Ireland and UK Triggering Widespread Power Outages, Giant Waves and 80mph Winds
December 7, 2021
https://strangesounds.org/2021/12/storm-barra-uk-ireland-weather-vi...
It went from around 1010mb to 957mb (53mb), more than twice the threshold to meet the criteria for explosive cyclogenesis (24mb drop in 24 hours). A Double BomboGenesis!

SOZT
To counter the cover-up over the presence of Nibiru, the Council of Worlds approved a temporary Severe Wobble. The start of the Severe Wobble
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/30no2021.htm
was marked by a massive quake in Peru on November 28 and a cold blitz in Europe the following day. Then a mega quake swarm occurred in Japan on November 29, predecessor quakes to the New Madrid Adjustment. On December 1 a wobble lurch could be seen by a subaquatic tidal bore north of Australia on the same day that Alexandria had a tsunami from the Mediterranean and Turkey had a sudden windstorm.

Then the UK was struck by a Double Cyclone on December 7 followed by a mega quake swarm on the border of the Juan de Fuca Plate on December 8. Now on December 10 there has been a record-breaking spate of tornadoes in the heartland of the US - more vicious, long lasting, and reaching higher into the atmosphere than any other on record. The quake swarms in Japan and off-coast of Oregon were characterized by being unrelenting. If this is a signature of the Severe Wobble effect, how long will this last and what will the outcome be?

We have stated that the New Madrid unzipping is but a moment away, but if the goal of the Severe Wobble is to break the cover-up over the presence of Nibiru, some degree of wobble must occur that would counter the elite blaming the Sun or Global Warming. Nibiru itself must be visible, to the entire world, so that it is clear that the public has been denied the truth. At that point the experts the elite hire to lie and the elite politicians themselves will be pushed aside, and the public rage the elite fear will be upon them - true karma at last.
EOZT

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31de2021.htm
On November 28 Peru had a massive quake with participation in the Straits of Gibraltar. This was followed by a cold blitz in Europe on November 29 accompanied by massive quake swarms in Japan.

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31de2021.htm
Turkey had an unexpected and violent windstorm on the day that Alexandria had an unexpected and violent tsunami and the buoys north of Australia showed a complete and sudden subaquatic tidal bore.

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/30no2021.htm
By suddenly allowing the magnetic flow surrounding Nibiru to change, allowing Nibiru's N Pole to drop and point again at the Earth, a mega wobble would be effected. This would be noticed by everyone on Earth, and the establishment would be scrambling to explain it. This temporarily Severe Wobble would be accompanied by dramatic visibility of Nibiru, so that the usual excuses from NASA that the wobble was somehow from the Sun would not suffice.

[39mo185h7h7oi]

The New Madrid rip and the subsequent European tsunami are but moments away.

Are highly Service-to-Others humans who would have otherwise perished suddenly going to be granted an early The Lift so that their incarnations can continue and they will temporarily live with the Zetas and Hybrids and prepare to be of service in the Aftertime?

[Stanislav]

Hi Nancy and Zetas,

To counter the cover-up over the presence of Nibiru, the Council of Worlds approved a temporary Severe Wobble.

Well, finally. But why did the White Hats' efforts fail again? Even Russia has taken the path of introducing QR codes and other shit. And even Putin started talking a lot about carbon emissions. You can just compare his early statements and carbon neutral crap now.

Putin says climate change not caused by emissions

30 March, 2017

https://phys.org/news/2017-03-putin-climate-emissions.html

Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday said climate change was unstoppable and not caused by human activity and urged countries to adapt to global warming.

Skepticism to Acceptance: How Putin's Views on Climate Change Evolved Over the Years

7 September, 2021.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2021/07/01/skepticism-to-acceptance-...
In 2017, Putin said volcanic eruptions are responsible for more greenhouse gas emissions than human economic activity.
A year later, he said climate change was caused by “changes of global character, cosmic changes, some invisible moves in the galaxy.”

By 2020, Putin had begun to acknowledge humanity’s role in environmental disasters.

“Humans are still not protected by natural catastrophes, most of which have been caused by anthropogenic interferences,” Putin said during a Valdai Club plenary in October. Human exploitation of natural resources created “critical tension which we can see in the case of climate change,” he said, a problem that “requires real actions and way more attention.”

2021: ‘Not without reason’
At Wednesday’s Direct Line event, an anonymous question asked Putin “What’s happening with the climate? Why has nature gone mad?” in reference to a recent cascade of extreme weather events across the country.

“Many people, not without reason, think that climate change is linked, most of all, to human activity, to emissions of pollutants into the atmosphere, primarily CO2,” Putin answered.

Is Russia finally getting serious on climate change?

1 November, 2021

https://www.lowyinstitute.org/the-interpreter/russia-finally-gettin...

At last month’s annual Valdai forum in Russia, President Vladimir Putin said it was “impossible” to deny climate change when disasters had become “almost a norm”.

Thank you very much

[Nancy Lieder]

No, This question is declined for a number of reasons. It is wishful thinking for one. Like the MedBeds and Nescara nonsense. The Lift is an individual thing, each entity who qualifies and their life mission and decisions. No blanket answer can apply. 

Kamil Rak said:

Are highly Service-to-Others humans who would have otherwise perished suddenly going to be granted an early The Lift so that their incarnations can continue and they will temporarily live with the Zetas and Hybrids and prepare to be of service in the Aftertime?

[Nancy Lieder]

Declined. Are you asking the Zetas to address the entire "White Hat efforts"? Or to join in on your hatred of Putin, who is certainly one of the good guys during this time of Nibiru cover-up and denial. Name another country that allows the Patriach Kurill to call these times the End Times that the prophet John spoke of in Revelations! Or gives free land to those in India who come to the Far East, which will be a tropical paradise in the Aftertime while India is under water. 

Stanislav said:

But why did the White Hats' efforts fail again?