ZetaTalk Chat for July 31, 2019

[Nancy Lieder]

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3. The Zetas, as all visitors, are under rules on how they interact with humanity. They are not here to rescue you. They cannot divert Planet X just as today they do not prevent droughts or floods. The Earth is mankind’s schoolhouse whereby he learns to help his fellow man.
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Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 78 years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

[Shaun Kazuck]

Hello:

Trump's sudden, simple visit to North Korea seems to have surprised all, including the establishment.  Can the Zetas speak about what was said?

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-30/2020-democrats-slam-trump...

Thanks!

[Nancy Lieder]

No. If Trump wanted that public, he would have tweeted it right away. Great optics though! Smiles everywhere. "I came to see you now you come to see me" was clearly one of the messages. Trump plays tough cop then good cop lots of time. The worst and then the best outcome. I'm sure its positive. 

Shaun Kazuck said:

Trump's sudden, simple visit to North Korea seems to have surprised all, including the establishment. 

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted from the Mod chat. 

Seems that lately the emphasis is on what will happen during the shift, Last Weeks etc.
[and from another]
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2019/Saulx/Saulx2019a.html
Saulx-Marchais, Nr Beynes, Yvelines, France. Reported 29th June

SOZT
This unique design represents our description
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta582.htm
of that portion of the Last Weeks which encompass the 3 Days of Darkness and the 6 days of Sunrise West. The N Pole is pushed back away from the approaching Nibiru so that the Northern Hemisphere has 3 Days of Darkness. Momentum causes the globe to continue its motion during this tipping so temporarily, for 6 days, the Earth is essentially upside down, causing the sunrise to come from the West. The last two days of this Sunrise West period are hidden within the design.
EOZT

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta582.htm
Then the 3 days of darkness and the 6 days of sunrise west, which is a momentum and turnaround for the swing into the 3 days of darkness. Then the Earth rights herself.

[Stanislav]

Hi Nancy and Zetas,

Facebook creates its own cryptocurrency. Unlike bitcoin, it will be centralized.

24 June, 2019. The Mother of Central Banks Sounds the Alarm on Facebook’s Cryptocurrency Libra

The Bank for International Settlements (BIS), an institution owned by the world’s central banks, has issued a stark warning about the likes of Facebook, Alibaba, and Google disrupting the established financial system.

In its annual economic report, titled Big Tech in Finance: Opportunities and Risks, the BIS – commonly seen as the central bank of central banks – specifically cites Facebook’s new Libra cryptocurrency as a threat to existing payment services.

“Given their size and customer reach, big techs’ entry into finance has the potential to spark rapid change in the industry.”

https://www.ccn.com/crypto/mother-central-banks-alarmed-facebook-cr...

18 June, 2019. Facebook’s cryptocurrency has a trust problem

From the beginning, cryptocurrency was about trust. “The root problem with conventional currency is all the trust that’s required to make it work,” Satoshi Nakamoto wrote in the first public announcement of the bitcoin system. “The central bank must be trusted not to debase the currency, but the history of fiat currencies is full of breaches of that trust.” Most of what we associate with cryptocurrency — the dense technology, the mining gold rush, the alarming price swings — is the direct result of that basic refusal to trust a central financial authority. Now, that power is in Facebook’s hands.

<...> But it also makes the Libra Association a de facto central bank, actively managing the currency for stability backed by a reserve of bonds and liquid currency. As a blockchain business, it makes perfect sense: you need a blockchain that can clear transactions quickly, and won’t plummet in price after you buy it. But as a question of trust, it’s a bizarre choice: if you don’t trust the Federal Reserve, why would you trust Visa and Mastercard?

https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/18/18683867/facebook-cryptocurrency...

Thank you very much

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted but as you are clearly asking about banking stability, the big picture, the Zetas will address that. 

Stanislav said:

Facebook creates its own cryptocurrency. Unlike bitcoin, it will be centralized.

[and from another]
https://www.ccn.com/crypto/mother-central-banks-alarmed-facebook-cr...
24 June, 2019. The Mother of Central Banks Sounds the Alarm on Facebook’s Cryptocurrency Libra.
The Bank for International Settlements (BIS), an institution owned by the world’s central banks, has issued a stark warning about the likes of Facebook, Alibaba, and Google disrupting the established financial system.
[and from another]
https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/18/18683867/facebook-cryptocurrency...
18 June, 2019. Facebook’s cryptocurrency has a trust problem.
Most of what we associate with cryptocurrency — the dense technology, the mining gold rush, the alarming price swings — is the direct result of that basic refusal to trust a central financial authority. Now, that power is in Facebook’s hands. This morning, Facebook announced an ambitious new cryptocurrency called Libra, to be managed by an association of tech and finance companies including Facebook alongside more conventional banking companies like Visa and Mastercard.  But as a question of trust, it’s a bizarre choice: if you don’t trust the Federal Reserve, why would you trust Visa and Mastercard?

SOZT
As the awareness of Nibiru spreads and the populace becomes nervous about their long-term investments, what will happen to the banking industry? Where banks loan funds, they rely on collateral
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta156.htm
for these loans, a thing of worth that can be collected in case of default. But a country’s currency is backed only by the promise of that country that they will honor their notes. When the Central Bank of a country goes bankrupt, as has on occasion happened, all holders of these notes find them worthless unless these notes have been backed by Gold reserves.

Enter cryptocurrencies, such as Bitcoin.
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue378.htm
The danger in cryptocurrencies is that they have no Central Bank, and the servers that document transactions can disappear into the night without a trace. It is truly a confidence game. Thus banks in general refuse to accept cryptocurrencies. But by avoiding the requirements for collateral
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/07de2013.htm
that the Banking Industry insists upon, the cryptocurrencies are closer to a barter system. Thus their appeal. Enter FaceBook’s latest gambit.

Zuckerberg’s latest gambit is an attempt to harvest the energy of the world’s worker base as the End Times builds momentum. The collateral that the banking industry holds will diminish as buildings collapse, crops fail, floods and wildfires ravage mankind’s infrastructure, EMP causes explosions and plummeting airplanes, and the insurance industry becomes bankrupt. Banks will not be issuing new loans, but will close their doors, stealing any savings that have been held in savings accounts.

As a type of bank that does not have overhead expenses such as buildings and staff expecting big salaries, a cryptocurrency can support activity among the struggling worker base with virtual interest free loans, and thus in essence OWN this worker base. At least, this is their expectation. Here they depend upon the public and the court systems honoring the flimsy contracts that a cryptocurrency might hold. Our prediction is that this will become known as Zuckerberg’s folly, as his so-called worker base commitments will vaporize overnight.
EOZT

Prior 2004 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta156.htm
Today, all countries are in a crisis affecting their base economies. Buildings collapsing in earthquakes, trains running off suddenly twisted tracks, factories exploding as gas lines breach, and storms tearing at coastlines without remorse do more than represent an opportunity to rebuild. They represent insurance companies unable to pay for rebuilding, factories laying off workers or unable to function, and distribution of goods blocked. In other words, paralysis, rather than a fever of economic activity, results. As can be seen when whole countries default on the paper money they float out under their flag, the value of a dollar can collapse quickly. [Banks] are holding notes, and at the base these notes translate to land, buildings, inventories, oil deposits, ships, food stocks, herds, and virtual slavery of those who cannot pay but need to eat and have shelter. Indentured servitude, returned. 

Prior 2013 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/07de2013.htm
First, the level of bankruptcies creates instability. The entire banking system is a parasite on the flow of goods and services, as bankers collect salaries. A rising tide of bankruptcies stops the cash flow, especially when the bankrupt collateral cannot be sold due to damage or economic collapse.  Second, cooperation and friendly extensions between countries and banking entities ceases, as all are desperate to survive. This increases the rate of bank failure until only the strongest survive. Third, the barter system will thrive. Banks become more particular about loaning funds, worried about repayment, so the populace starts to look outside of the banks. In all of this, where does Bitcoin fall? This is a currency without a country to collapse into bankruptcy, a bank with scant banker salaries as an overhead to pay, and a currency capable of adapting to the exchange rate almost instantaneously. As long as the Internet functions, Bitcoin is likely to do so also. 

[Nancy Lieder]

My question: 

When May is speaking privately with Putin during the 2019 G20, she looks like she is almost pleading with him. What is this about? And Merkel looks ashen. This stands in such contrast to 2017 and 2018.
[and from another]
Patriarch Kirill on 11/20/2017 "All people who love the Motherland must be together because we are entering a critical period in the course of human civilization. This can already be seen with the naked eye. You have to be blind not to notice the approaching awe-inspiring moments in history that the apostle and evangelist John was talking about in the Book of Revelation.”
[and from another]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_G20_Osaka_summit

SOZT
The body language is unmistakable. It is an open secret among the elite that Putin is impatient to inform the public that Nibiru is real, and another passage is pending. He has mentioned his intentions often. He has established the Far East as a safe zone for the Russian people, and been aggressive about encouraging the public to move there, offering free land. He has established a new naval station
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue417.htm
on the New Siberian Islands, and put nuclear power plants afloat. The Patriarch Kirill has
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue585.htm
already confirmed, publicly, that the Earth is in the End Times.

Russia is having a good harvest in 2019, and travel in the Fall, before snow makes this difficult, would be ideal. Putin wants his people to relocate before the Earth changes make this difficult. Europe on the other hand has not prepared a place for its people. The elite, primarily the Illuminati and royalty, intended to deny all until it was too late for the common man to prepare. Putin’s admission would force the elite, such as May and Merkel, to defend their past positions. Why did Merkel encourage a huge influx of Muslim refugees, knowing what was coming?

Thus May made a last minute appeal to Putin, who was hardly in sympathy with a woman who allowed him to be slandered by Skripal poisoning
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue599.htm
lies. The Netherlands has maintained its lies about MH 017
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue409.htm
also. May was looking down during her plea so her lips could not be read, and Merkel has been having panic attacks. They both wanted to be in control when the public became aware of Nibiru, as Martial Law will likely be called. Now they are both out of control, and may need to run.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email: 

Recently, an accident occured, where 14 sailors died due to a supposed gas explosion on a deep sea research vessel. The strange part is that there were too many decorated officers (including 2 Heroes of Russia) on a mere research vessel, designated for a supposedly mundane mission. The Defense Minister Shoigu himself was ordered to visit the site of the accident and investigate. Apparently, there are rumors that the US is involved, as VP Pence suddenly cancels his trips shortly after the accident. Is this anyhow related to undercover ops, Deep State and the Pole Shift?
[and from another]
Could the Zetas can explain those reports? It seems that something really BIG is about to happen
[and from another]
https://www.rt.com/russia/463228-7-captains-2-heroes-killed-fire/
[and from another]
https://www.rt.com/usa/463227-panic-rumors-pence-emergency/
[and from another]
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/breakin...
11:55 am ET Vice President Mike Pence's scheduled event in New Hampshire canceled; 12:04 pm ET Putin pulls out of scheduled event; 12:25 pm ET European Commission Security Counsel has been called in for an urgent meeting; 12:47 pm ET crew members were poisoned by fumes when the vessel caught fire while taking measurements in Russian territorial waters on Monday. 
[and from another]
14 seamen dead in fire on Russian deep submersible – MoD July 2, 2019
https://www.rt.com/russia/463208-14-seamen-dead-in-fire/
At least 14 Russian Navy servicemen have died after a scientific deep submersible caught fire while on a mission, Russia’s Defense Ministry has said. The cause of the incident is still unknown. A deep-water research vehicle belonging to the Russian Navy was conducting a bathymetric measurement operation in Russian territorial waters when a fire broke out on board.
[and from another]
https://www.fleetmon.com/maritime-news/2019/26421/russian-nuclear-s...
Russian nuclear submarine explosion and fire, all on board reported dead. July 2, 2019 Russian North-West Region local media on Jul 2 reported explosion and fire on board of Russian Navy deepwater nuclear research station or submarine AS-12, known as LOSHARIK. Accident occurred on Jul 1. 
[and from another]
https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/security/2019/02/moscow-continues...
Moscow accuses Norway of northern military buildup - Here is map of submarine ports. February 8, 2019
Grøtsund harbor is 375 kilometers (as the crow flies) west of Norway’s border to Russia’s Kola Peninsula.

SOZT
On July 1 a Russian nuclear sub was attacked in their territorial waters near their border with Norway. A day passed between the fiery death of 14 Russian officers and a notable panic reaction at the White House and the European Union. Putin also called an emergency meeting with his Defense Minister on July 2. What had been learned during that day between the explosion and the reactions? This was not an accident, but a provocation to incite Russia to attack, to ignite World War III. There are elements within NATO that want a war with Russia, and in particular want to draw the US into this war in defense of NATO countries.

We have frequently mentioned the many attempts to ignite World War III
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue660.htm
by the New World Order crowd and their many factions. One of those factions is the Illuminati, the royalty of Europe and those who carry the Nazi bloodline. Thus the distress of May and Merkel at Putin’s planned announcement about Nibiru’s presence relate. May and Merkel would rather have a war with Russia than have the public informed. Who attacked the Losharik? Norway was at the helm, but used Israeli subs to hide the trail. As a member of NATO, Norway subs are registered and tracked, but Israel is not.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email: 

Below Eclipse photo taken by a lady in Rio Cuarto Cordoba Argentina. Another bottom left almost on the horizon.
[and from another]
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/solar-eclipse-photo-e...
[and from another]
https://umbra.nascom.nasa.gov/newsite/images.html

SOZT
As with all recent Eclipses,
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue565.htm
some evidence of the Nibiru complex can be found, primarily in private photos which are not attempting to disguise it, but the establishment takes pains to hide the evidence. NASA and its cohorts reduce the glare of the Sun so aggressively that even the stars in the background cannot shine through. They quickly turn the camera away when Nibiru or its brilliant Moon Swirls is about to show up in the emerging corona. Nibiru can usually be found in the uneven light around the Sun, which does not match any sunspots
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue569.htm
or ejections from the Sun. The 2019 eclipse, visible from S America, fits this script.
EOZT

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/30ma2015.htm
Nibiru is seen at the 11 o’clock position in the Southern Hemisphere and thus would be seen atop the Sun, not well below. 

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email: 

Wow Alaska is literally blowing up in earthquakes. The largest is 5.4 and the span East, west, south, and the Aleutian islands. This seems BIG. The released energy moved south down the fault, first with a 6.2 in West Canada, and then south California blowing up with its multiple quakes. Absolutely amazing! The bow is tightened! 
[and from another]
https://apnews.com/60fe39042bb64733ab283abab8b228f8
Strongest earthquake in 20 years rattles Southern California
July 4, 2019
Officials have found cracks on several roads in the county, but overpasses and underpasses are in good shape. The earthquake was the strongest since a 7.1 quake struck in the area on October 16, 1999.

SOZT
What significance can be cast upon the migration of recent large quakes from the Aleutian Islands down along British Colombia and then in Death Valley in California? The rigid N American continent, which cannot roll because it is a flat top, can no longer make minor adjustments. The New Madrid will surely be next, as the continent can only rip in a diagonal, the portion to the East of the Mississippi pulling NE and the portion to the West of the Mississippi pulling to the SW. The San Andreas will then follow.
EOZT

[Juan F Martinez]

Nancy, Putin just met with the Pope, 7-4-2019.  I suspect it was about informing the public about Nibiru.  An Announcement soon?  

https://www.facebook.com/juan.f.martinez.7161/videos/10159096061098...

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted. 

Juan F Martinez said:

Nancy, Putin just met with the Pope, 7-4-2019. 

I suspect it was about informing the public about Nibiru.  An Announcement soon? 
[and from another]
https://www.facebook.com/juan.f.martinez.7161/videos/10159096061098...
[and from another]
https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/putin-visits-pope-francis-o...
Putin visits Pope Francis on July 4th
July 4, 2019
Russian President Vladimir Putin met with Pope Francis at the Vatican July 4 for a 55-minute private discussion. Pope Francis and Putin discussed current affairs in Syria, Ukraine, and Venezuela, as well as environmental issues and questions concerning the Catholic Church in Russia, according to the Holy See Press Office. Putin met with Pope John Paul II in 2000 and 2003 and had an audience with Pope Benedict in 2007. The Holy See and the Russian Federation re-established full diplomatic relations in 2009. Their first meeting in November 2013 focused on the Syrian civil war. At Putin and Pope Francis’ previous meeting in June 2015, Pope Francis asked Putin for “sincere and comprehensive effort to achieve peace” in Ukraine after Russia annexed Crimea one year prior. 

SOZT
Putin and the Pope meet periodically but regardless of the announced agenda, the true agenda is seldom revealed. The Vatican, with their suppression of the truth within the Third Secret of Fatima,
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta195.htm
would be shamed by any open admission that Nibiru is real, looming nearby, and fast approaching for yet another passage. The Vatican is part of the establishment more concerned with their current lifestyle than any concern about empowering the common man with information. What then is the Pope’s position on Putin’s plans to inform his citizens?

The Pope would like all this delayed, but had no influence on Putin. The Pope’s logic is that most of the world will perish during the predicted Apocalypse, so why distress these poor souls during their remaining time when there is nothing they can do about their situation. Putin knows better, as informed people can take steps. The Pope is taking the posture that the Vatican and prior Popes have taken about the truth. As with the sexual abuse of choir boys, where he was slow to call the guilty to account, this is all about keeping the flock loyal to the Church.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted from the Moderators chat. 

I found this to be interesting. Not only because of its expanse, but also that it slinks back and forth across one stretch of sea. I would have thought it would disperse more freely given the turmoil/currents.
[and from another]
https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2019/7/4/20681064/sargassum-...
Scientists found a seaweed patch stretching from the Gulf of Mexico to Africa
July 4, 2019
There’s a mass of seaweed in the Atlantic Ocean that last year, at its peak, was so large it stretched all the way from the Gulf of Mexico to West Africa. It’s the biggest bloom of seaweed ever recorded. The brown hue of the seaweed on the surface of the water can be seen by satellites. Satellite images have revealed that over the past 20 years, the mass of sargassum on the surface of the Atlantic has exploded dramatically.

SOZT
The Sargassum is not blooming because of nutrients draining into the Atlantic from Africa rivers. Has Africa changed its agricultural practices in the past few years? It is clearly from the increased iron oxide dust
http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tworx560.htm
from the tail of Nibiru. In fact, the bloom is most intense in the Caribbean, in the Gulf of Mexico, where the red dust in the water cannot readily disburse because the Coriolis Effect
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/16ju2012.htm
must work within the circle of Caribbean Islands. The currents that circle the Sargasso Sea also pull this red dust back to the coast of S America. There will be many more such sea blooms around the world, which the establishment will struggle to explain.
EOZT

Prior 1995 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p18.htm
Life in the oceans will not die out. The water will have a green tinge. Little known among the populace, but well known among scientists, is that the ocean is one of the largest producers of the atmospheric oxygen. After the cataclysms, the atmosphere oxygen will be rebuilt from the oceans. The oceans will appear greenish to many, and for good reason. All the fires will have placed a tremendous amount of carbon dioxide into the air, the stuff of which vegetative grown is made of. With little vegetation on land, the ocean kelp will absorb and utilize this. The oceans will be lush.