ZetaTalk Chat for October 31, 2018

[Nancy Lieder]

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1. No personal counseling is done.This rule has been in place since 1996. Questions should be of broad interest to the general public.
2. Correlation or resolution of ZetaTalk with the work of other channels or authors is not done unless they predict and have a prediction accuracy track record, as otherwise they are not a peer of ZetaTalk which does so. This rule has been in place since 2002. Just because another website or author makes a statement does not make that statement true, nor will the Zetas explain to you why their statements are not true, as then they are taking time out to address the issue.
3. The Zetas, as all visitors, are under rules on how they interact with humanity. They are not here to rescue you. They cannot divert Planet X just as today they do not prevent droughts or floods. The Earth is mankind’s schoolhouse whereby he learns to help his fellow man.
4. The date of the pole shift cannot be given, but the sequence of events can be given. [ Link ] Check the ning pinned discussions and blogs for such information as the 7 of 10, the last weeks, etc.

Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 70 [73] years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email: 

Can the Zetas solve this mystery?
[and from another]
https://stillnessinthestorm.com/2018/10/the-mysterious-ancient-sphe...
The Mysterious Ancient Spheres of Costa Rica
October 16, 2018
The first serious study done on the mysterious stone spheres was carried out in the 1940s by the researcher Doris Stone. Stone’s findings were then published in 1943 in the esteemed archeological journal American Antiquity, and this caught the attention of other researchers. One of these was Samuel Lothrop, of the Peabody Museum at Harvard University, who went about a major excavation and study of the remaining spheres, carefully measuring them and mapping their positions and alignments. They are comprised of an indigenous hard stone known as granodiorite. But the spheres largely remain as mysterious as they ever were.

SOZT
These carefully rounded and polished stones are a mystery only because the indigenous people who created them have disappeared. No written record exists, and the survivors of what was an infectious plague all died out or these stones were the least of their concerns after migrating elsewhere. Where there are no antibiotics and the members of a tribe are in close contact with one another, disease can spread like wildfire, with disbursing or running away the only recourse.

These stones were intended to be replicas of what the natives saw in the skies during what today would be termed UFO encounters. Awe struck, and sensing power beyond what they possessed, the orbs in the skies became gods to these natives, to be worshiped by the round polished stones. Each stone took many years to produce, but the natives considered this a sacred duty as no harm had come to them during this process. Thus, they concluded that the gods had been placated.
EOZT

[Stanislav]

Hi Nancy and Zetas,

To what extent do government / elite decisions influence the pace of Earth Сhanges? Can we say that much depends on people here? Given some positive developments in American politics. I'm starting to think that the Council of Worlds is slowing the pace of earth changes in general. Despite all the evidence that Nibiru is real, the pace is much lower than what we all expected. This is probably good, as it allows you to slowly realize this without a sharp shock with martial law. Although this is of course only my opinion/theory.

Thank you very much

[Nancy Lieder]

Declined as they addressed this same issue last January. Quote below. Everyone wants to know the date. I get reams of email all the time where people tell me they have the date and lay their hunch out in an attempt to get some reaction from me which they can then read. Or there is the theory that the devastation predicted by the Zetas will never come as the Council of Worlds has changed its mind. Then there is the theory that the Zeta predictions are all bull shit and only designed to cause fear in mankind. Every angle imaginable. But the bottom line is that the ZetaTalk on the matter has not changed! The date is not to be known. I put some 2003 ZetaTalk at the bottom of the lastest newsletter which details how society and the elite will react and maneuver as the truth becomes obvious. Seem relevant to today, 15 years later!

http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31ja2018.htm

As we have stated, the Council of Worlds has taken steps to slow down the 7 of 10 Plate Movements with humming boxes, in order to allow the establishment more time to inform the populace. The overall outcome - the Pole Shift – will not be stopped or delayed.  In the interim between the present, when most of the world is unaware of what is coming, and the hour of the Pole Shift itself, will be a time of challenge for man. This is in the hands of man, and thus cannot be predicted. This will likewise vary from country to country, from religion to religion, from family to family, with every possible variation expressed.

When a leader, either in officialdom or a natural leader that has emerged, points to and facilitates survival steps, this allows for hope and thus less denial and thus empathy can flourish. Denial requires a struggle to maintain a focus on pretense, so this energy is robbed from preparations to help others. This is why the Council of Worlds is pressing for the truth about Nibiru to be made known. 

Stanislav said:

To what extent do government / elite decisions influence the pace of Earth Сhanges?

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email: 

We are in Reno. All of a sudden [October 20] in the last few days all the chemtrail planes are now spitting out their normal double or quadruple streams but they are disappearing. So the sky is clear. We are in Reno.
[and from another]
https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message3919520/pg1
I'm in the desert near Palm Springs, CA. There has been a dramatic reduction in ChemTrail activity here for us in the last 6 months. It is amazing, honestly. Still some activity, but I would rate it approx 80% reduction by my casual observation. Gwad - we have clear blue skies often now - it is AWESOME.
[and from another]
Escondido Ca.is cleaning up. Much fewer chemtrails. Not completely gone, but much less.
[and from another]
Arizona, back to blue skies I remember from childhood, no chemtrails. Something has changed. If they were natural contrails wouldn't they still be around?
[and from another]
I can confirm Colorado. Hardly any compared to how it used to be since our POTUS took over!
[and from another]
Noticable increase over central Alabama the last few days. 
[and from another]
The sky has been covered in them yesterday and today. I live in central Alabama.
[and from another]
Here in SE Georgia, we do still have some, but nothing like it used to be. There are now many clear blue days. When they are spraying, you can see the lines, but it doesn't completely cover the sky like it used to.
[and from another]
Completely gone for over a year now in Georgia. The sky has been clear and blue. Butterflies and bees are starting to return, they had been totally gone the year before. The sky no longer looks like a checker board of trails. I live in a very rural mountain area. 
[and from another]
I'm in Atlanta area and they have been a staple of life for decade. I never see them anymore, ever.
I’ve noticed more in the last few days here in a suburb north of Atlanta.
[and from another]
Spraying as been off the charts this week in Tennessee. Day and evening. Usually just the morning. It had really slacked off the last few months but the last two days it’s been off the charts. Now they are spraying in an actual grid pattern rather than a stray trail here and there. I wonder why the drastic change all of a sudden?
[and from another]
It has been terrible here the past two days in Nashville. Heavy, heavy chem trails in the early am.
Since Trump, MAJOR reduction in East Tennessee. There have been a few days here and there, likely black ops $, deep state BS. Past 2 days, many trails. Under Obummer, there was rarely a day without trails, and the skies tended to remain hazy.
[and from another]
Here in the suburbs of Chicago it's decreased big time. I saw some last week, but for the most part the skies have been chemtrail free the past 6 months or so.
[and from another]
Chicago area, hardly any this past summer. It was amazing to see clear blue sky. Used to be any clear day was just destroyed by dozens of Chemtrails overhead.
[and from another]
Michigan: It’s been about a year here in Michigan, clear blue skies again.
[and from another]
I havent seen any since being in Michigan, almost 5 weeks now.
[and from another]
NYC big decrease... now we have normal blue skys and puffy normal white clouds.... just like the old days of when I was a kid.
[and from another]
Major decrease, cept yesterday 75 miles north of NYC.
[and from another]
Almost 95% reduction past 9 months Delmarva peninsula East Coast of Delaware. In the past week and a half, there have been many.
[and from another]
The sky this morning in Cambs UK was like a shiny waffle. They've increased it here no doubt.
[and from another]
Heavy in southern Ireland last few days.
[and from another]
I'm in Sydney and haven't seen them for a good month now.

SOZT
What has occurred in the Chemtrail pattern, where many locations in the US report a virtual absence for a year or more but then a sudden increase in late October. The Chemtrail campaign is run by the wealthy, as the US military refused to have anything to do with it. Reports in the US that the Chemtrail onslaught seemed to almost disappear since Trump’s inauguration are not an accidental coincidence, as Trump did indeed write a sealed Executive Order threatening prosecution of those engaged in Chemtrailing the skies.

But where there are unlimited funds, workers can always be hired, and with the increasing threat of the public becoming aware of Nibiru, this activity began anew. Now many layers of personnel are between those funding the operation and the crews doing the deed. Nibiru’s visibility has become a threat, as have the erratic sunrise and sunset times due to the Daily Earth Wobble. But the switch between Chemtrailed skies to clear skies and now back to the fog and obvious Chemtrail activity is a clue to many that they are indeed being denied the truth.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email: 

It seems likely that this is ploy to garner sympathy for these persons and the Dems in general, ahead of mid-term elections. 
[and from another]
This so called bomb scare looks like a very poorly done hoax at best/ false flag attempt. Was this done by the deep state or Soros or some affiliated group or persons to create empathy for the democratic party and the pull their electoral base together just before the midterms? Also with the caravan rapidly moving toward the US border this also seems to be organized by Soros's NGO's and likely intended to erupt into some kind of conflict with US customs, military or national guard?
[and from another]
Can the Zetas say who or what is the source of these packages?
[and from another]
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/10/bomb-disposal-officer-toda...
Several bombs were sent out to Democrat leaders – none of which detonated. The Secret Service announced that suspicious packages were sent to Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. George Soros, former AG Eric Holder, Rep. Maxine Waters were also sent mail bombs. The return address name on the suspicious packages sent to Clinton, Obama, Holder and Maxine Waters belonged to Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz. But now it appears this was all a hoax! The clocks taped to the “pipe bombs” do not have an alarm function.
[and from another]
https://gab.com/NeonRevolt/posts/39709307
 #Anons were able to locate the actual make and model of the clock taped to one of the bombs. It doesn't even have an alarm function. In other words, it can't count down to anything. It's literally just to make a "scary-looking" bomb prop.
[and from another]
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article2205424...
The New York Times reported that the device found inside Soros’ mailbox was “constructed from a length of pipe about six inches long filled with explosive powder” and that it was detonated by bomb squad technicians. The newspaper also reported that the device mailed to Soros was similar to those sent to the Obamas, Clintons and to CNN. Each package was affixed with computer-printed address labels and six “Forever” stamps and had a return address of “DEBBIE WASSERMAN SHULTZ,” misspelling the congresswoman’s name.
[and from another]
https://nypost.com/2018/10/24/bomb-sent-to-cnn-came-with-envelope-o...
The envelope sent to former CIA Director John Brennan at CNN offices in Manhattan also had his name misspelled, as was Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s home state. The first one discovered — in a mailbox outside the Katonah home of billionaire George Soros Monday — had black powder on it. But a source briefed on that device and the one sent to CNN told The Post on Wednesday that they couldn’t actually have blown up because neither was equipped with a blasting cap or other means of detonating explosive material.
[and from another]
https://gizmodo.com/mail-bomb-sent-to-john-brennan-allegedly-had-fa...
The one addressed to Brennan, now a senior analyst with NBC News and MSNBC, arrived at CNN instead. That bomb had a parody ISIS flag with silhouettes of women and sex toys above the words “Get ‘Er Done”
[and from another]
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Pipe-Bombs-Clinton-Obama-Soro...
The package was addressed to De Niro and that it had the same stamps and return address, that of ex-Democratic National Committee chairman Debbie Wasserman Schultz

SOZT
The onslaught of supposed pipe bombs mailed to Democrats on October 24 is a hoax, as is known. It was at first presumed to be an attack by an ultra-right maniac, but no harm came to the Democrats receiving these packages. The story dominated the news cycle for the entire day. It was then assumed that the Democrats themselves sent these packages in order to garner sympathy. But as the evidence quickly pointed to a hoax these theories fell apart. Highly visible clues were designed to mislead the public - ISIS lettering and misspelled names and addresses on the packages – as though someone from the Middle East might have sent the packages.

The Soros bomb exploded so the authorities would take the others seriously. But they were duds, filled with glass shards, with an electronic clock that was incapable of triggering a device. It had no alarm function. Since it is apparent that the anticipated Blue Wave is going to be a Red Wave, the Democrats are desperate. False accusations against Kavanaugh, the Warren DNA blunder, and the Soros funded Caravan marching to the Mexican border have not succeeded in turning that tide. The Democrats have no message to counter Trump’s booming economy and jobs reports.

Despite Democratic blunders, they are not the perpetrators, though the agenda behind these hoax mail bombs is intended to stop the Democrats from blundering on. Hillary is even allowing hints of another run in 2020, despite her failing health and lack of popularity. Those who received packages have a common nexus in past criminal conduct to protect and promote Hillary or, in the case of Waters and Holder and De Niro, openly suggesting violence against Republicans. The perpetrator was not hoping to garner sympathy for the Democrats, but rather to remind the public of their crimes.

An inherent message in the bomb packages was to send a warning to the recipients. Stop doing what you are doing to thwart the Trump administration, as you are only turning people to vote for Trump. The perpetrators want Democrats in charge, want them to win the Mid-Terms, and want Trump blocked in the House and deposed in 2020. The New World Order crowd is desperate to block Trump and his Junta. Private messages to the blundering Democrats have not succeeded, and they are too well known to just be gunned down, so the message is “Stop what you’re doing. We know where you live!”
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email:

Perfect rectangular monolith in Antarctic.
[and from another]
NASA spots a SECOND 'monolith' iceberg
October 24, 2018
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-6312659/NASA-spots-...
NASA has spotted a second perfectly rectangular iceberg in the Antarctic.   The second rectangular berg, known as a 'tabular' iceberg, was spotted off the east coast of the Antarctic Peninsula, near the Larsen C ice shelf and close to the first one.  It is part of a large 'field of bergs NASA experts may have recently broken off the shelf, and say the sharp angles and flat surfaces are evidence the break occurred very recently.

SOZT
Icebergs come in all shapes and sizes, depending upon the thickness of ice and the pressure that can come from all sides. These rectangular icebergs have a uniform thickness. The clue to their rectangular shape is the melt around them. They are included in a field where the ice is breaking up, thus where the ice is held at land and where the ice is sagging at the water’s edge creating a snapping pressure. When a crack starts, it continues, a straight line is the most likely direction. A long strip of ice would then snap at right angles, given the logical pressure at the end of these vertical strips.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email: 

Can the ZETA's comment on this cloud appearing on Mars? Was it an dormaint volcano due to Nibiru;s influence or just an ordinary developed cloud?
[and from another]
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/26/science/mars-cloud-volcano-erupt...
A Volcanic Eruption on Mars? Nope. October 26, 2018.
It’s just a cloud. A very long cloud. A photograph from a spacecraft orbiting Mars shows a long, white wisp, close to a thousand miles long, spilling out of a giant volcano. Could the volcano, thought to be dormant for some 50 million years, be about to blow? Planetary scientists confidently say no.
[and from another]
https://gizmodo.com/massive-cloud-forming-over-one-of-mars-biggest-...
Massive Cloud Forming Over One of Mars' Biggest Volcanoes Is Icy Water Vapor, Not Eruption
October 27, 2018
When wind hitting a massive structure such as a mountain—Arsia Mons in this case—is forced upwards, cooling and expanding due to lower atmospheric pressure. As a result, water vapor contained within can condense and freeze into clouds. Scientists detected similar clouds in 2009, 2012, and 2015, all during the Martian winter season—which is also occurring right now, accompanied by recent dust storms that could have made the clouds more visible. (Those dust storms throw tiny grains far up into the atmosphere, providing an ideal anchor for freezing ice.)
[and from another]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volcanology_of_Mars
Scientists have known since the Mariner 9 mission in 1972 that volcanic features cover large portions of the Martian surface. These features include extensive lava flows, vast lava plains, and the largest known volcanoes in the Solar System.

SOZT
Having denied that Mars had any water, NASA is now being forced to admit that water vapor is rising in a massive stream from a dormant volcano on Mars. Pray tell, where did that water vapor come from? Of course it is rising from the underground chambers that holds most of Mars water, having been poured down into those chambers by the Annunaki when they washed their gold ore with this flow. Unless frozen solid, water will vaporize and find an outlet, which is what occurred recently. Were it not for the dust storms, the NASA lie would still be in vogue.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email: 

The megalithic phenomenon developed at one time all over the world. It seems that the starting point is North West Europe, particularly the tip of Brittany (France) where we find the oldest monuments, including the famous alignments of Carnac. Some of these monuments can reach gigantic sizes, such as the large menhir of Er Groah in Locmariaquer which measured about 18 meters in height. At 4 km from Er Groah there was also a very particular cairn, unique of its kind: the cairn of Gavr'inis. All the parietal stones have been entirely engraved. Some structures of these engravings seem to be found in other traditions, and call upon universal symbols. Can the Zetas explain to us the origin of the megalithic phenomenon, the meaning of these erected stones, these alignments over kilometers or dolmens? How were these monuments erected? How to reconcile the apparent orientation of these monuments with stars, sun and moon, and the changes brought by the successive poleshifts? More specifically, what was the function of this magnificent and enigmatic monument of Gavr'inis?
[and from another]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnac_stones
The Carnac stones  are an exceptionally dense collection of megalithic sites around the village of Carnac in Brittany, consisting of alignments, dolmens, tumuli and single menhirs. 
[and from another]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavrinis
The island is famous because of its important passage grave, a megalithic monument from the Neolithic period, belonging to the same broad context as the Breton megaliths of Carnac and Locmariaquer, and closely connected with the monuments at Brú na Boínne (Ireland) and Maes Howe (Orkney). At the time of its construction, c. 3500 BC, the island was still connected with the mainland. 

SOZT
The Dolmens
http://zetatalk.com/ning/03ma2014.htm
found in various locations, as we have stated, were crematoriums for the Annunaki. Stonehenge,
http://www.zetatalk.com/orientat/o26.htm
which had massive rocks arranged in a circle, was older than man and designed to strike fear in early man, thus to drive them to the Service-to-Self orientation. Spirals
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/18ma2013.htm
were drawn by early man to record the spirals they saw in the skies ahead of a passage of Nibiru, ahead of the devastating storms and earthquakes that accompany a passage. Thus stone bunkers with such spirals can be assumed to be shelters built by early man.

But what of the long rows of stones, or the occasional standing stone that seems out of place for the geology? These do not bear the mark of the Annunaki, who preferred large carvings like the Easter Island heads or pyramids. They seem to serve no purpose other than to indicate a direction. But during a Pole Shift there are boulders that thud to Earth from the debris in the tail of Nibiru. Some of these lone stones can be those boulders, but others are erected by early man as a type of worship to the Gods whom they assumed sent the Pole Shift horrors their way.
EOZT

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/orientat/o26.htm
Stonehenge is older than the visitors from the 12th Planet. Older than the wandering of the cavemen, mankind's earliest numbers. It is so early that no cultural memory remains that can strike a cord. Stonehenge was built to the specifications of a reptilian King, who resided on Earth so long ago that humans were scarcely emerging. Yet the structure was to carry meaning for the emerging humans, which it has, to this day. Subliminal messages of power and sadistic treatment toward those sacrificed.

Prior ZT: http://zetatalk.com/ning/03ma2014.htm
Given that the Annunaki were seen as powerful and dominant giants by early man, and given that early man would likely thus try to eat the Annunaki dead to gain these qualities, the Annunaki regularly burned their dead. Why is it that no Annunaki mummies or graves have been discovered? They were burned, and their ashes strewn about.    

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/18ma2013.htm
Why the many spirals, which are seen in recent crop circles as well as on cave walls? Spirals are seen in the sky prior to a passage, due to magnetic tornados formed in the atmosphere. Thus, early man drew them to warn future generations. 

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email: 

What happened to this plane flight? EMP pulse from Planet X? Can the Zetas tell?
[and from another]
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-46014463
Lion Air said in a statement that the pilot and co-pilot had more than 11,000 flight hours between them. Established in 1999, Lion Air operates domestic flights as well as international routes to South East Asia, Australia and the Middle East. It has had issues of safety and poor management in the past and was banned from flying into European airspace until 2016. In 2013, Lion Air flight 904 crashed into the sea on landing at Bali's International Airport. In 2004, flight 538 from Jakarta crashed and broke up on landing at Solo City, killing 25 people.
[and from another]
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/lion-air-crash-updates-plane-crashe...
Data from flight tracking service FlightRadar24 shows the first sign that something was amiss came about two minutes into the flight when the plane had reached 2,000 feet. At that point, it descended more than 500 feet and veered to the left before climbing again to 5,000 feet, where it stayed during most of the rest of the flight. It began gaining speed in the final moments and reached 345 knots (397 mph) before data was lost when it was at 3,650 feet.
[and from another]
https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message3923901/pg1
Flightaware data shows the plane did not stall. The maintenance records from the day before indicate a possible pitot or elevator problem.
[and from another]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitot_tube
Aircraft use pitot tubes to measure airspeed. 
[and from another]
https://www.grc.nasa.gov/www/k-12/airplane/elv.html
The elevator is used to control the position of the nose of the aircraft and the angle of attack of the wing.
[and from another]
The Mystery of the New Boeing Jet That Plunged Into the Sea, Killing 189
October 29, 2018
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-29/boeing-s-first-7...
Investigators are beginning the grim task of determining why a brand-new Boeing Co. 737 Max jet flown by Indonesia’s Lion Air plunged into the Java Sea minutes after takeoff, killing all 189 people on board. There were already hints of possible causes: a request by pilots to return to the airport, a maintenance issue on a previous flight and erratic air speed tracked before the jet’s final dive.  The two-month-old 737 Max 8, operating as Flight 610, took off from the capital Jakarta headed for the island tourist destination of Pangkalpinang, at 6:20 a.m. local time Monday. Air-traffic controllers lost contact 13 minutes later when the plane was at an altitude of about 3,000 feet.
[and from another]
https://www.flightradar24.com/blog/flightradar24-data-regarding-lio...
The aircraft departed Jakarta at 23:20 UTC. Last data was received from the aircraft 11 minutes later at 23:31 UTC.

SOZT
Where at first glance this sudden plunge of JT610 might have been caused by a faulty elevator, pointing the nose of the plane down to a rapid descent, there are other clues which must be taken into consideration. Air Traffic Control lost contact with the pilot when the plane was still at 3,000 feet. Lost contact. This was not the pilot distracted and not speaking, it was lost contact. Radio silence. Indonesia has had many problems with Electro-Magnetic Pulse because the Sunda Plate is being squeezed, and thus the rock has electronic screech. The water is also shallow in many places, facilitating a connection between the EMP blasts from Nibiru and the screech.

Thus caught between these two points, the electronics on a plane are zapped, failing. This happened to MH370
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue390.htm
and MH066,
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue392.htm
both originating from Kuala Lumpur in 2014 and flying over shallow water. MH370 had massive electronic failure which caused the crew and passengers to die from lack of oxygen and the plane to fly on old auto-pilot instructions out over the Indian Ocean. MH066 had engine problems but survived. In these matters the EMP is denied. Blame is placed on the weather or pilot error or even suicidal impulses of the pilot. Airline profits are all that matter to the elite.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

As is our usual practice, we are closing this October chat and opening November. Please post your new questions there. 

http://poleshift.ning.com/forum/topics/zetatalk-chat-for-november-3...