ZetaTalk Chat for July 31, 2018

[Nancy Lieder]

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3. The Zetas, as all visitors, are under rules on how they interact with humanity. They are not here to rescue you. They cannot divert Planet X just as today they do not prevent droughts or floods. The Earth is mankind’s schoolhouse whereby he learns to help his fellow man.
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Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 70 [73] years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted. Am not including speculation that Raven Chan is Priscilla Chan's sister. She is not. Chan is a very common name. http://www.celebfamily.org/priscilla-chan "Dennis Chan and Yvonne Chan have three children; all are daughters, Priscilla, Elaine and Michelle." 

Juan F Martinez said:

Would the Zetas care to comment?   

Facebook stock took a huge plunge yesterday.  Some suggest this dump is because incriminating information is coming out that will affect Mark Zuckerberg personally and Facebook as a company. There are reports that FB has allowed secret pedophilia groups to run on their platform, and that FB asked users if pedophiles should be able to ask kids for 'sexual pictures.' Are these the real reasons the stock dropped, or is there more?  How bad is this for MZ and FB?  Is this the end of MZ?
[and from another]
Facebook asked users if pedophiles should be able to ask kids for 'sexual pictures' March 5, 2018
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2018/03/05/facebook-asked-users...
Facebook is under fire for asking users whether pedophiles should be able to proposition underage girls for sexually explicit photographs on the giant social network. The survey is the latest in a series of missteps by the Silicon Valley company, which has been criticized for allowing content that exploits children. Facebook scrapped the survey that posed questions about teens being groomed by older men after it was spotted by media outlets in the United Kingdom. It now says the survey could have been better "designed."
[and from another]
Facebook asked users if pedophiles should be able to ask kids for 'sexual pictures'
March 5, 2018
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2018/03/05/facebook-asked-users...
International attention to how pedophiles use social media to target and prey on children has grown in recent years. An investigation by the BBC in 2016 uncovered numerous private Facebook groups by and for men with a sexual interest in children to share images, with one run by a convicted pedophile. Photos of children taken from their parents' Facebook accounts have also been found on pedophile sites. Facebook faced criticism again in 2017 when the BBC flagged dozens of images and pages containing child pornography. Of the 100 reported images,18 were removed by Facebook, according to the BBC. At the time, the BBC said Facebook asked to be sent examples of the images and then reported the broadcaster to the child exploitation unit of Britain’s National Crime Agency.
[and from another]
Zuckerberg loses more than $15 billion in record Facebook fall
July 26, 2018
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-facebook-results-stock/zuckerber...
Chief Executive Mark Zuckerberg’s fortune took a more than $15 billion hit as the social media company suffered the biggest one-day wipeout in U.S. stock market history a day after executives forecast years of lower profit margins. Chief Financial Officer David Wehner startled an otherwise routine call with analysts by saying the company faced a multi-year squeeze on its business margins. That “bombshell,” as one analyst termed it, played into concerns on Wall Street that Facebook’s model could be under threat after a year dominated by efforts to head off concerns over privacy and its role in global news flow.
[and from another]
Facebook stock drops roughly 20%, loses $120 billion in value after warning that revenue growth will take a hit July 26, 2018
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/facebook-stock-crushed-after-reve...
The stock closed down 19% Thursday to $176.26, which means that investors erased the entirety of the company’s 2018 gains. Its market capitalization as of Wednesday: $630 billion. By the end of trading Thursday, it was worth $510 billion after close and 170 million shares had changed hands. 

SOZT
FaceBook stock is suddenly in a massive sell-off, supposedly due to analysts anticipating poor performance in the future. But is there more to this picture? Zuckerberg and the FaceBook enterprise are hand in hand with the elite intention to track migration in the future, and enslave mankind for the elite. We, the Zetas, have pointed this out in 2016 when a FaceBook satellite intent on establishing an Internet access for Africa was blown up on launch, and again in 2017 when Zuckerberg’s Disaster Maps were caught trying to track migration
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/17ju2017.htm
in S America. None of the chiding on ZetaTalk seemed to affect FaceBook earnings, but the Cambridge Analytica 
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/30ap2018.htm
scandal in April, 2018 set off a bomb.

During all the investigations into supposed Trump collusion with Russia, the fact that FaceBook allowed Cambridge Analytica to comb through private FaceBook data was revealed. Congress held hearings. Qanon analysts noted that a former Pentagon program called LifeLog,
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue603.htm
which kept a database on numerous people, closed down on February 4, 2004, the same day that FaceBook incorporated. None of this seemed to affect FaceBook earnings or stock price. But the enigmatic Q implied that Zuckerberg had bribed Congressmen to hold off on legislation for a 6 month period, and now implies that the markets moved faster than Congress.

What is going on behind the scenes? Insider trading is often noted when the stock suddenly rises ahead of an anticipated crash. Meanwhile insiders unload their overpriced stock to unsuspecting buyers, who then take the loss when the crash arrives. FaceBook stock charts show this manipulation. Thus the bribes to those in the Deep State in Congress to hold off on legislation re FaceBook activities. There is more than dropping stock prices to fear, as the enigmatic Q implies. Potentially a class action lawsuit which would bankrupt the company could emerge.

Why would such a class action lawsuit be justified? Who was harmed by the Cambridge Analytica matter, which seemed to blow over quickly? It is not shopping trends and political inclinations that are the worry. It is FaceBook supplying photos of young children, as the BBC reported in 2017, and identifying pedophiles during a March, 2018 survey. Pedophilia is used for blackmail purposes, an old CIA trick. Thus the enigmatic and highly accurate Q predicted a FaceBook collapse as far back as March, when these activities came into the spotlight.
EOZT

Prior ZT 6/17/2017: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/17ju2017.htm
The Council of Worlds slapped Zuckerberg down in 2016 over his ambitions to control survivors in Africa with his drone based Internet. He is now trying to be covert. His cover is to masquerade as an assist to disaster recovery providers. Zukerberg is hardly a humanitarian. As a member of the elite he wishes to limit and control the starving masses after the Pole Shift, to enslave them, and to eliminate those who will not be useful to he and his ilk. He seeks information. True karma awaits.

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/30ap2018.htm
Zuckerberg allowed Cambridge Analytica to examine FaceBook trends. If private data could be harvested for such examinations, what other mischief might be going on? Internet users share personal data via email, so email hosts are aware of these conversation, as are governments. We have stated that Zuckerberg is a member of the elite who hope to enslave survivors after the Pole Shift, and seek information on the populace to that end. Given that this is Zuckerberg’s goal, can he be stopped by hearings in Congress? 

[Stanislav]

Hi Nancy and Zetas,

The question about mental health. There are several questions at once. They are highlighted

3 April, 2017. 20% increase in global depression in a decade

https://www.health24.com/Medical/Depression/News/20-increase-in-glo...

30 October, 2017. Depression is on the rise in the US, especially among young teens

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/10/171030134631.htm

Depression is called a plague of the 21st century, which, to put it mildly, is strange. It would seem that today when the number of poor people are decreasing (at least until 2008), but the number of people with mental illness are increasing. The first question to the Zetas, why?

Although it is obvious that the World Health Organization's calculation can overestimate/underestimate this figure. It seems that this really is increasing. In my opinion, the most important factor today is of course the financial crisis the worst since the time of the Great Depression. But that's not all, sure.

Depression / suicides today affect young people more than previous generations. This is not surprising given the current economic situation. This is very detailed in this article:

Millennials Are Screwed

https://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/poor-millennials/

https://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/poor-millennials-pr... (TEXT ONLY)

In combination with incredible social pressure:

https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/6u1297/someone_made_a_collag...

But there are factors that can be considered special. These are suicides/depressions due to unrealized ambitions, etc. And they are also growing.

27 July, 2015. Suicide on Campus and the Pressure of Perfection

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/02/education/edlife/stress-social-m...

2 Septmber, 2017. Suicide is at record level among students at UK universities, study finds

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2017/sep/02/suicide-record-le...

The second question is why does suicide occur in this case?  Do Zetas deal with that in 4rd density? (suicides due to unrealized ambitions / mistakes / comparisons with others and etc)

We have stated that 43% of survivors will be insane to some degree, after the pole shift.

http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta468.htm

All this becomes relevant now and especially after the Pole Shift. We can not even determine what is the cause of depression in a particular case. It can be a genetic inclination or weakness of the spirit or other reasons. Could the Zetas advise how to cope with this? Of course, if at all, there is something to advise ...

I have close people who are sitting on antidepressants. But what to do after the Pole Shift? It's one thing when you're insane (and you do not realize what's going on). But it's different when you're depressed. It is obvious that most will be depressed. From diabetes you can die. But no one dies from a mental illness or lack of antidepressants. The sharp absence of antidepressants is very painful due to withdrawal syndrome. Hardly there is a solution here...

9 April, 2014. 30 Million Americans On Antidepressants And 21 Other Facts About America's Endless Pharmaceutical Nightmare

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-03/30-million-americans-anti...

9 Septmber, 2017. Babies On Drugs In America? 1984 Predicted It!

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-09/babies-drugs-america-1984...

22 February, 2018. Big Pharma's War On Our Children: 1 Million Kids Under Age 6 On Psychiatric Drugs

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-22/big-pharmas-war-our-child...

Thank you very much

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted. 

Stanislav said:

The question about mental health. 

Depression is called a plague of the 21st century, which, to put it mildly, is strange. It would seem that today when the number of poor people are decreasing (at least until 2008), but the number of people with mental illness are increasing. The first question to the Zetas, why? Although it is obvious that the World Health Organization's calculation can overestimate/underestimate this figure. It seems that this really is increasing. In my opinion, the most important factor today is of course the financial crisis the worst since the time of the Great Depression. But that's not all, sure. Depression / suicides today affect young people more than previous generations. This is not surprising given the current economic situation, in combination with incredible social pressure. This is very detailed in some articles. But there are factors that can be considered special. These are suicides/depressions due to unrealized ambitions, etc. And they are also growing. The second question is why does suicide occur in this case?  Do Zetas deal with that in 4rd density? (Suicides due to unrealized ambitions / mistakes / comparisons with others and etc.) All this becomes relevant now and especially after the Pole Shift. We cannot even determine what is the cause of depression in a particular case. It can be a genetic inclination or weakness of the spirit or other reasons. Could the Zetas advise how to cope with this? Of course, if at all, there is something to advise. I have close people who are sitting on antidepressants. But what to do after the Pole Shift? It's one thing when you're insane (and you do not realize what's going on). But it's different when you're depressed. It is obvious that most will be depressed. From diabetes you can die. But no one dies from a mental illness or lack of antidepressants. The sharp absence of antidepressants is very painful due to withdrawal syndrome. Hardly there is a solution here.
[and from another]
3 April, 2017. 20% increase in global depression in a decade
https://www.health24.com/Medical/Depression/News/20-increase-in-glo...
Cases of depression have ballooned almost 20% in a decade, making the debilitating disorder linked to suicide the leading cause of disability worldwide, according to the World Health Organization (WHO).
By 2015, the number of people globally living with depression, according to a revised definition, had reached 322 million, up 18.4% since 2005, the UN agency said.
[and from another]
30 October, 2017. Depression is on the rise in the US, especially among young teens
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/10/171030134631.htm
The increase in rates of depression was most rapid among the youngest and oldest age groups, whites, the lowest income and highest income groups, and those with the highest education levels. These results are in line with recent findings on increases in drug use, deaths due to drug overdose, and suicide.
[and from another]
06 November, 2017 From fatigue to anger: the hidden ‘faces’ of depression
https://www.health24.com/Medical/Depression/About-depression/from-f...
Depression is a constellation of symptoms present during a defined period and people can present differently as a result of gender, age and other defining characteristics. In a child, it might be through a failure to thrive, in a teenager through the onset of behavioural problems, while an adult may become very sensitive and irritable.
[and from another]
Why millennials are facing the scariest financial future of any generation since the Great Depression
https://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/poor-millennials-pr...
[and from another]
Someone made a collage of headlines saying what millennials are killing
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/6u1297/someone_made_a_collag...
[and from another]
27 July, 2015. Suicide on Campus and the Pressure of Perfection
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/02/education/edlife/stress-social-m...
[and from another]
2 September, 2017. Suicide is at record level among students at UK universities, study finds
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2017/sep/02/suicide-record-le...
Experts put the rise down to growing pressure on students who leave university with huge debt, as well as increased awareness – meaning more people are reporting problems.
[and from another]
9 April, 2014. 30 Million Americans On Antidepressants And 21 Other Facts About America's Endless Pharmaceutical Nightmare
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-03/30-million-americans-anti...
[and from another]
9 September, 2017. Babies On Drugs In America? 1984 Predicted It!
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-09/babies-drugs-america-1984...
[and from another]
22 February, 2018. Big Pharma's War On Our Children: 1 Million Kids Under Age 6 On Psychiatric Drugs
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-22/big-pharmas-war-our-child...

SOZT
We have stated that depression is almost always caused by anger turned inward,
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta468.htm
and the antidote to depression is to take ACTION.
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta452.htm
Exercise, and the mental mindset to take action to set things right, is a great cure for depression. Life today is no different than life decades ago, so why the increase in depression? Suicide to escape work demands or captivity, or among students pressed to excel by their parents, or among the aging or disabled lonely and with pain ridden lives is COMMON, and has been common throughout mankind’s history.

That said, why is depression on the increase? Awareness of the Earth changes, and where this is leading, has increased. We have stated that over half of humanity are now contactees, having given The Call for counseling due to awareness of the Earth Wobble and signs in the skies. Thus, they know what is coming, and are aware that the establishment is lying to them. How is this to be interpreted by the common man, most of whom are extremely immature young souls?
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta173.htm
Trust is shattered. Confidence in their leadership is shattered. They feel they are on their own, and uncertain how to proceed.

We have stated that most of the 90% die-off predicted to occur as a result of the Pole Shift will be due to depression,
http://www.zetatalk.com/xtime/x24.htm
a decision to give up. If they cannot be rescued, or their prior life cannot be re-established, then why live? These high numbers are due to the high number of highly immature souls on Earth at this time. Due to the population explosion over the past few centuries, most humans are not incarnated by established souls, but are at the point where a soul may or may not spark in that human body. They cannot rely on soul memory, or past lives. They are instead infants waiting to be rescued.

How can one help these individuals? Take the lead and give them a role! After a devastating earthquake, have a list of tasks to be done and bark orders, if need be. This has several advantages. Exercise is a depression dispeller, and by moving about to fill their task, they will feel better. Tasks that require more than one person are also ideal, as this allows conversation and shared feelings to emerge. As the tasks are completed, these immature souls will note their contribution helped others, a feeling of satisfaction. Those who refuse to participate, intractably depressed and sullen, should be left to die
http://www.zetatalk.com/xtime/x02.htm
as they have made their decision,
http://www.zetatalk.com/beinghum/b14.htm
which is their right.
EOZT

Prior 8/16/2008 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta468.htm
We have stated that 43% of survivors will be insane to some degree, after the pole shift. This may or may not include those who were subject to depression and mental illness before the shift. Our explanation on mental illness states that often it is the stress of trying to live in what is termed modern times that forced those genetically predisposed to mental illness over the line. Give them space, a quiet setting, fewer demands, and they often get well almost magically. Depression is very much related to repressed rage and anger. If the rage cannot be directed outward, it is directed inward. An animal unable to escape from a trap thus can be allowed to die, via depression, and not forced to live in unbearable circumstances. Cancer is another such escape mechanism. Thus, after the pole shift, many formerly depressed individuals will find themselves free of restraints and suddenly full of energy and no longer depressed!

Prior 5/3/2008 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta452.htm
Great loss does not normally cause insanity but rather depression, and the antidote for depression is to take action. This is why we have advised that group leaders have an action plan for the hours after the pole shift, so that everyone is busy doing something, if only gathering the broken crockery and preparing a group meal. Exercise, and the mental mindset to take action to set things right, is a great cure for depression.

Prior 1/15/2002 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/xtime/x02.htm
The recovery from shock takes two routes, depending upon the nature and resolve of the person affected, and this cannot be changed by others as it is a personal decision. If the individual, after surveying the situation, determines that life should go on and the devastation not overwhelming, they seem to shake of their disbelief and start talking about changes. If the individual, mentally computing the pros and cons of the situation while sitting in shock, determines that life after the shift will be too awful to contemplate, they will continue in shock. This is a clue to others about them that they have made a decision. For whatever reason, the person continuing in shock has decided not to make an adjustment, and attempting to force this will not bring satisfaction.

Prior 11/6/2004 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta173.htm
Depression, hysteria, hiding in closets and seeking comfort in delusions, all will emerge, epidemic. Those most needing to be in control, such as the self serving power mongers attempting to rule the world, and those most seeking the comfort that a sense of continuity provides, such as the spiritually immature, will be most affected. 

Prior 12/14/2002 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/xtime/x24.htm
The 90% die-off that we have predicted, as we have stated, will not occur simply because of the shift. Most will die because of depression, failure to thrive, sitting down with a slight injury and not eating or drinking, as occurs after all calamities. Mankind is used to limited calamities, where a single city suffers a quake, or a single family a devastating fire. In come the Red Cross, the rescue from neighboring towns, the assistance from neighbors. Global calamities are such that no area is prepared to go forth and rescue, and all sit and wait to be rescued. Thus, all sit and wait without rescue.

Prior 7/15/1995 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/beinghum/b14.htm
We, the Zetas, believe in the right to suicide. Whose life is it, anyway? 

[Juan F Martinez]

Nancy, was this a New Madrid Eastern Fault adjustment, or the White Hats taking out a Rockefeller Bunker?

TARRYTOWN, NY — A 1.5 magnitude earthquake hit Westchester County Monday. The epicenter was 1.6 miles southeast of Tarrytown, according to the United States Geological Service.

The time was 3:17 p.m. and the quake took place 10 kilometers (about six miles) below the surface.

https://patch.com/new-york/tarrytown/earthquake-westchester-county

This is coincidentally close to Kykuit, the Rockefeller Estate.  

Is there a correlation? Would the Zetas care to fill in the blanks? 

[Nancy Lieder]

Declined as a 1.5 mag quake barely shakes the jello. Tiny. Also the location should be tearing apart due to the bowing tension in the N America Plate. This is why there are rivers there, always a low and weak place in the crust. The term "sleep hollow" also implies further weak points in the crust, making a hollow. Last, I myself don't think whacking an estate is the methods being used by the White Hats. Taking the bad guys down in the court of public opinion seems to be the most effective approach. 

Juan F Martinez said:

Nancy, was this a New Madrid Eastern Fault adjustment, or the White Hats taking out a Rockefeller Bunker?

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email. 

Are these fires in Greece and California caused by hot earth?
[and from another]
Greece wildfires called Europe’s ‘deadliest’ in a century as rising death toll hits 91
July 30, 2018
https://www.rt.com/news/434598-greece-wildifres-death-toll-rises/
The wildfires that devastated the southern European country last week were described as the deadliest in Europe since 1900. The Greek authorities suspect that arson may have caused the fire. Photos taken at the site of the devastating fires show buildings totally burned-out from the ground floor to the roof and turned into ruins. The soil around some of the residential areas is apparently still smoldering and plumes of smoke can still be seen over the heaps of ash. Mati witnessed many dramatic incidents earlier this week, such as when one man narrowly escaped the blaze that consumed his house in a matter of minutes.
[and from another]
#CarrFire in Northern California so big it is making it’s own weather
July 28, 2018
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/07/28/carrfire-in-northern-califor...
The dirty part on the bottom is the smoke plume rising from the fire. The intense heating from this rising plume eventually reaches a level in the atmosphere where it can form a cumulus cloud, that’s the white part on top. It’s called a Pyrocumulus Cloud.
[and from another]
Deadly Carr Fire tilts away from Redding but still spreading with furious cadence
July 29, 2018
https://www.sacbee.com/latest-news/article215696770.html
The five-day-old fire’s burned area jumped from 48,000 acres Friday evening to 83,800 acres by Saturday night, a swath of 130 square miles, and was only at 5 percent containment. The Carr Fire, which was started by a vehicle mechanical failure, reached the city of Redding in full force Thursday night, blowing through western subdivisions and consuming entire blocks of homes.

SOZT
We have described hot earth
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/11ju2011.htm
as being a danger during the hour of the Pole Shift. This is due to friction from rapidly shifting rock layers found along plate borders or fault lines. The heat of friction was reported
http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfo07b.htm
by both West Coast Indians and in the annals of those in the eastern Mediterranean during prior Pole Shifts. The ground seemed to become as soft as wax or molten metal. The current wildfires in Greece and California seem to align with that premise. The fires are ultra hot, seeming to spring up from the ground, and too numerous and widespread to be caused by arson.

Fires spread by wind will find the upper levels of homes burned, and are spotty as sparks carried by the wind cause secondary fires. But in particular, the fires in Greece and California are following the plate borders or fault lines. The region in Greece is where the Aegean platelet is located. Platelets are a weak link during Plate shifting. Likewise in California where the San Andreas Fault Line is under tension due to the bowing of the N American Plate, and the Juan de Fuca Plate is pushing under the N American Plate. Thus where the ancients reported hot Earth during prior Pole Shifts, we have extremely hot fires springing up from the ground!
EOZT

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/11ju2011.htm
Then there is the issue of hot or melting Earth, where subduction in river valleys is so rapid and aggressive that the heat melts the ground, as has been recorded by the West Coast Indians in the past. The eastern Mediterranean coastline also recorded this during the Exodus. But being on high ground is a guard against hot or melting Earth, as the rock only melts when it is close to the point of friction between rock layers.

Prior 8/24/2002 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/myths/m72.htm
The heat of hot earth as many fault lines adjust, some by subducting under each other or by allowing lava to flow closer to the surface;

[Nancy Lieder]

As is our usual practice, we are closing out this July 31, 2018 chat. Please post your questions to the August 31, 2018 chat. Thank you. 

http://poleshift.ning.com/forum/topics/zetatalk-chat-for-august-31-...