ZetaTalk Chat for December 31, 2017

[Nancy Lieder]

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Zeta Rules that Apply

1. No personal counseling is done.This rule has been in place since 1996. Questions should be of broad interest to the general public.
2. Correlation or resolution of ZetaTalk with the work of other channels or authors is not done unless they predict and have a prediction accuracy track record, as otherwise they are not a peer of ZetaTalk which does so. This rule has been in place since 2002. Just because another website or author makes a statement does not make that statement true, nor will the Zetas explain to you why their statements are not true, as then they are taking time out to address the issue.
3. The Zetas, as all visitors, are under rules on how they interact with humanity. They are not here to rescue you. They cannot divert Planet X just as today they do not prevent droughts or floods. The Earth is mankind’s schoolhouse whereby he learns to help his fellow man.
4. The date of the pole shift cannot be given, but the sequence of events can be given. [ Link ] Check the ning pinned discussions and blogs for such information as the 7 of 10, the last weeks, etc.

Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 70 [73] years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email from many. 

Disclosure finally? Seems so.
[and from another]
Could the Zetas say something about this mysterious Pentagon UFO program?
[and from another]
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message3719436/pg1
[and from another]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tf1uLwUTDA0&feature=youtu.be&am...
[and from another]
The Pentagon’s Secret Search for UFOs
December 16, 2017
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/12/16/pentagon-ufo-sea...
The Pentagon, at the direction of Congress, a decade ago quietly set up a multi-million dollar program to investigate what are popularly known as unidentified flying objects—UFOs. The “unidentified aerial phenomena” claimed to have been seen by pilots and other military personnel appeared vastly more advanced than those in American or foreign arsenals. In some cases they maneuvered so unusually and so fast that they seemed to defy the laws of physics. The Pentagon’s AATIP program marked a 21st century effort to replicate some of the decades of inconclusive research undertaken by the Pentagon in 1950s and 1960s to try to explain thousands of reported sightings of unidentified flying objects, or UFOs by military and civilian pilots and average citizens—particularly an effort known as Project Bluebook that ran from 1947 to 1969.  
[and from another]
Pentagon admits running secret UFO investigation for five years
December 16, 2017
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/dec/17/pentagon-admits-runni...
Task force that investigated sightings of unidentified flying objects ran from 2007 to 2012 with annual budget of $22m. The Pentagon was less clear about whether the UFO program continues to hover somewhere in the vast universe of the US defense establishment.
[and from another]
Pentagon sank $22mn into a secret UFO-chasing program – reports
December 17, 2017
https://www.rt.com/usa/413430-pentagon-millions-aliens-research/
The secretive program, which the US Department of Defense has been keeping under wraps, was brought to light in simultaneous reports by Politico and the New York Times on Saturday, citing interviews with people involved or with knowledge of the program, as well as contracts, and Pentagon and Congressional records. “The Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program” was led by former military intelligence official Luiz Elizondo, who resigned from the Pentagon on October 4. In his resignation letter to Defense Secretary James Mattis, seen by Politico and the NYT, he lamented the lack of funding for the project and the fact that it continues to be shrouded in mystery, away from the public eye.

SOZT
The only item of interest in the news about a secret Pentagon UFO study, wasting $22 million in taxpayer monies, is why it is no longer secret. And why was it secret at all? This effort was a fraud from the start, not intended to reveal any facts or make any admissions, and was only allowed in order to deflect Congress. As with the Blue Book
http://www.zetatalk.com/govmt/g92.htm
task force of yore, the Pentagon posture was to deny all
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta347.htm
and ridicule or harass
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/11oc2014.htm
any who said otherwise. This latest admission about the Reid Pentagon study is more than creeping disclosure,
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue436.htm
it is a new policy.

The Pentagon study, given to two separate news channels in order to ensure it did not get stifled, has admissions that the Air Force and other pilots had noted maneuvers in UFOs that are not known to mankind, not explained or possible according to human physics. This will open up a new line of discussion. The US has been one of the hold-outs during disclosure, with other countries opening their files. This will now change, giving disclosure a boost.
EOZT

Prior ZT 6/15/1997: http://www.zetatalk.com/govmt/g92.htm
The Air Force officers assigned bustled about and issued reams of paper, all looking very official. They were given a list of probable explanations for strange lights in the sky, and dutifully ascribed something on the list to any sighting reported. When on occasion an officer working for project Blue Book got too curious, he was reassigned. Those who prated the party line and didn’t attempt any independent thought remained.

Prior ZT 1/6/2007: http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta347.htm
In the past, the establishment wanted to deny the alien presence for their own security and stature. Politicians and the Church wanted mankind to cling to them as power figures, to look up to and fear them, and were concerned about a loss of stature if the truth about the alien presence were known. Project Blue Book in the US, harassment of contactees, and suppression in the media followed. But this campaign has not worked. 

Prior ZT: 10/11/2014: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/11oc2014.htm
After claiming that UFO sightings were the result of mass hysteria, swamp gas, and pathological liars the establishment was weary of having any official body responsible for excuses. Blue Book was closed in 1970, the better to ignore the increasing UFO sightings. The eager public was punished, in the many ways a government cover-up can punish those wanting to talk about a subject. Belief in the alien presence was even claimed to be a mental illness. 

[Nancy Lieder]

My question this week. 

Was this EMP? What caused the fire?
[and from another]
Timeline of the Atlanta airport blackout
December 18, 2017
http://www.11alive.com/article/news/local/power-down-timeline-of-th...
An underground fire caused a complete power outage Sunday afternoon at Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport, resulting in thousands of canceled flights at the world's busiest terminal and affecting travelers worldwide.
[and from another]
What caused the power to go out at Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport
December 17, 2017
http://www.11alive.com/article/news/local/what-caused-the-power-to-...
Hartsfield-Jackson does have a backup system but Reed said that was damaged in the fire.
Because of the intensity of the fire, the switch which accesses the redundant system was damaged, leaving both systems damaged. A Georgia Power representative said the fire damaged multiple parts of their system, leading to the prolonged outage.

SOZT
Where it is clear that the busy Atlanta airport suffered a power outage caused by an underground electrical fire, it is not clear why the fire occurred. It was massive, crippling not only the substation but redundant setups, so recovery likewise was crippled and delayed. Was the electrical system old or poorly designs? No. Atlanta is noted for having an excellent city design, with highways and Marta trains and bus service all interconnected and well maintained. Hartsfield-Jackson is the busiest airport in the world for good reason. So what caused the fire?

We have repeatedly mentioned that the N American continent is being pulled into a bow, with the center of the bow at San Diego and with the Aleutian Islands and Mexico the tips of the bow. Rock layers frequently move independently of one another, sliding over each other, and this is occurring all along the Eastern Seaboard
http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx034.htm
at the edge of the Appalachian Mountains. This of course causes friction and friction produces heat. The Atlanta airport is situated on the flat lands of south Atlanta, but north Atlanta has its head in the foothills of Appalachia.
EOZT

Prior 2010 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx034.htm
The predicted New Madrid adjustment will pull the N American continent at a diagonal so that rock adjustments will occur from the New England and Great Lakes regions all the way to southern Texas and thence to Mexico. 

[Nancy Lieder]

Another question by Nancy: 

Alberto’s photos show many Moon Swirls. By November 30 it appears that there were four clusters of Moon Swirls, but the latest photo on December 17 seems to show six clusters. Just how many moons are there! The Zetas stated in 2002 that there were “dozens” of Moons, but is everything seen in these photos a moon? Or is it debris?

SOZT
Do the Moons have Moons? Yes, this is not only possible, it is occurring within the Moon Swirls of Nibiru. We have chosen to call them moons only when they are at least as large as Earth’s moon, but there is debris of all sizes within the swirl. What was seen in images in the past has been the conglomerate Moon Swirl, or on occasion an individual large moon. But lately more detail shows not only individual large moons but lesser trash. We have stated that the moons of Nibiru will not sling further than 5 million miles from Nibiru, thus will not strike Earth during the passage, but the trash is already arriving as flaming bolides plunging through Earth’s atmosphere. In the past, the trash in the tail of Nibiru has been described as hail, like gravel. This usually burns up in the atmosphere, but can land as hail and boulders.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email: 

Is this the area that the zetas say will rise in height?  Sounds like this may be confirmation of what they’ve been saying.
[and from another]
https://www.forbes.com/sites/trevornace/2017/12/05/enormous-pool-of...
By studying the seismic waves caused by earthquakes, the research team found an unusual massive area of molten rock underneath New England. In addition, it appears the molten rock is rising due to buoyancy as hotter objects are often less dense than cooler objects. This strange pool of hotter, less dense, molten rock is upwelling beneath central Vermont, western New Hampshire, and western Massachusetts.
[and from another]
http://bgr.com/2017/12/19/new-england-volcano-massachusetts-vermont...
The upwelling we detected is like a hot air balloon. The upwelling is occurring deep beneath parts of Massachusetts, Vermont, and New Hampshire. 
[and from another]
https://pubs.geoscienceworld.org/gsa/geology/article-abstract/52287...
Lateral changes beneath the Appalachian orogen (eastern North America) do not follow the pattern of its major terranes, suggesting that more recent, and possibly ongoing, geodynamic processes are taking place in the sub-lithospheric mantle. Strongly elevated asthenospheric temperature suggests the presence of a narrow thermal upwelling in the upper mantle beneath New England. 

SOZT
We predicted that the St. Lawrence Seaway would split open
http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p148.htm
during the Pole Shift, and this process has already begun. As the Atlantic spreads, this weak point in the N American Plate, along the St. Lawrence River, snaps repeatedly. The river stretch just North of Vermont is showing this recently depressed crust. The ripping mouth of the St. Lawrence River is just North of the states affected – Massachusetts, Vermont, and New Hampshire. Stretch zones rarely give an indication of this process, which is a silent process.

We have stated that the bottom of the Earth plates that float atop of magma is not even, but full of mountains and valleys
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta563.htm
which affect the speed and direction of the magma flow. The rip of the Seaway is opening up a plane, a flat region along the Seaway just North of Vermont. Thus, the bubble of magma is rising into the new void. The magma will harden, and when the Seaway rips fully open during the hour of the Pole Shift, the New England region will gain 450 feet
http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx333.htm
of elevation, essentially canceling out the rise of the sea level by our predicted 675 feet after the Pole Shift. Meanwhile, not factoring Nibiru into the equation, man’s scientists are puzzled.
EOZT

Prior 2002 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p148.htm
During the tearing of the Atlantic Ocean floor, and the dragging north or the North American continent, an already existing tear in the St. Lawence Seaway tears further, essentially the weak link in this landmass held at so many points to the further side of the Atlantic Ocean. Canada moves north, while the rest of the Americas cling to the Atlantic Rift while it separates.

Prior 2010 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx333.htm
We have stated that the tearing of the Seaway during the pole shift will allow the New England area to bounce up by 450 feet. The New England area will no longer be bonded to land to the north of the Seaway so the natural floatation characteristic of the rock is allowed to express itself. 

Prior ZT 2/13/2010: http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta563.htm
The magma connection to the crust is not even, as the crust has pockets where solid rock goes down into the magma just as the crust has mountain ranges thrusting rock skyward. The magma flows, in and out of these pockets, and for some pockets the flow is slow. 

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email.

We do not know what this is? Blue orb?
[and from another]
http://www.kentonline.co.uk/medway/news/photo-of-blue-planet-157075/

SOZT
The monster blue orb seen to the right of the Sun early in the day is a looming Venus, in the Monster persona where the light rays are bending back toward the Earth so the object looks larger than it is in reality. Is Venus coming closer? We have long talked about how the Dark Twin and Venus are being squeezed in the cup, with a strong particle flow from Nibiru coming round on both sides so they are forced toward the Earth. This situation will not end until the Last Weeks, when both escape the cup just prior to the Nibiru passage.
EOZT

[Andrey Eroshin]

Good afternoon everyone! The chat of this month will close soon, 2017 is coming to an end, this year there were many different events. Before the celebration of the new year, the people have a tradition to say goodbye to the old year and give forecasts for the next year - hopes, expectations, wishes. So I would like to ask our friends - could they give a forecast for 2018?

thanks in advance

[Nancy Lieder]

Oh, you know they won't do that!

They can tell us the sequence of events, such as the 7 of 10, or that the 7 and 8 of 10 have overlapped due to the humming boxes, but cannot tell us the rate of progress in the forthcoming months. They can tell us the Pole Shift will happen on a Magnetic Trimester, end of April or August or December, but not which one and not which year.

They can describe in great detail the dance that will happen between the Earth, Venus, Dark Twin and Nibiru, wherein Venus and Dark Twin escape the cup during the Last Weeks and Earth is temporarily drawn closer to the Sun and Nibiru, but cannot say when this will start. 

They have described a Severe Wobble, which can happen anytime and not just during the Last Weeks, but will not give a date for this. The dates are not to be known! And that includes the dates of big earthquakes or tidal slosh and such.

And what is in the hands of man, such as the outcome in N Korea, cannot be predicted as it is in the hands of man, as is often stated. Also, in what the US secret government or Putin might be planning to do to counter the forces of evil is allowing the enemy to have this information. Thus not helpful. The element of surprise is also used by the Council of Worlds. 

Andrey Eroshin said:

The chat of this month will close soon, 2017 is coming to an end, this year there were many different events. Before the celebration of the new year, the people have a tradition to say goodbye to the old year and give forecasts for the next year - hopes, expectations, wishes. So I would like to ask our friends - could they give a forecast for 2018?

[Nancy Lieder]

I will work up a newsletter feature for this coming week, called 2018 Predictions, and talk about what I mentioned below. What the Zetas have said in the past about "what to expect". This is all still true. A reminder. 

Andrey Eroshin said:

The chat of this month will close soon, 2017 is coming to an end, this year there were many different events. Before the celebration of the new year, the people have a tradition to say goodbye to the old year and give forecasts for the next year - hopes, expectations, wishes. So I would like to ask our friends - could they give a forecast for 2018?