ZetaTalk Chat for October 31, 2017

[Nancy Lieder]

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3. The Zetas, as all visitors, are under rules on how they interact with humanity. They are not here to rescue you. They cannot divert Planet X just as today they do not prevent droughts or floods. The Earth is mankind’s schoolhouse whereby he learns to help his fellow man.
4. The date of the pole shift cannot be given, but the sequence of events can be given. [ Link ] Check the ning pinned discussions and blogs for such information as the 7 of 10, the last weeks, etc.

Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 70 [73] years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email:

Would the Zeta's care to comment on these towers that even MTA employee's don't know what they are for?
[and from another]
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4930112/MTA-fire-spending-1...
The 30-feet-tall MTA Gateway Towers are a part of Gov Andrew Cuomo's $100 million vision to redesign the MTA's bridges and tunnels in the city. Some people are still unsure about the purpose of these towers, including folks on the MTA board, but according to some officials, the towers will host equipment related to homeland security, such as anti-terror technology.
[and from another]
http://www.politico.com/states/new-york/albany/story/2017/09/27/cit...
Metropolitan Transportation Authority Chairman Joe Lhota says he can't discuss what exactly will be housed in the authority's $100 million so-called Gateway towers, for reasons of security. MTA management originally described the bridge and tunnel erections as “architectural" in nature.


SOZT
If one wants to keep surveillance a secret, one should not conduct the surveillance from a 30 foot tall tower covered in cameras and detection devices. The MTA is being secretive because the federal department of Homeland Security asked them to say as little as possible about the new installations. Of course it’s not merely decorative. Of course it’s not just to read the pass cards at the toll stations. Anti-terrorism requires detecting nuclear material and ticking bombs, via all manner of detection devices. No need to lie about it, the terrorists are well aware of the purpose of these towers.
EOZT

Prior 2002 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/govmt/g163.htm
Now, with no more evidence that Microwave towers, EMF towers, in place here and there about the landscape, we have yet another conspiracy theory emerging. It has reached the point where the public leaps to the theory before they have a cause. Cell phones, using satellites and booster towers for phone conversations on the air waves, are increasing massively, due to their convenience. Does the public think that these cell phones, which are so sensitive to blockage from the towers that serve them that going under a bridge, behind a building, cuts out a conversation, do not need a strong infrastructure to support this deluge of conversations? In an attempt to service the public, and sell their networks, these towers have proliferated.

Prior 2010 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta575.htm
Cell phones are extremely popular and heavily advertised. They are billed as small computers on the move, supporting both text and voice communications. There is hardly a TV show or movie that does not contain the main characters using cell phones. Lots of towers allows a phone company to advertise that coverage is broad, so there is an immediate cost benefit return. But this effort is supported, behind the scenes, by units such as Homeland Security, as they foresee these many towers being used to support communications when long land lines go out or are torn down. Each tower can have its own battery or generator, and thus support emergency communications by the public.

[Juan F Martinez]

Hi Nancy, would the Zetas comment on the recent disclosure that the NYC MTA is spending $100,000,000 on a Homeland Security project at all major bridges and tunnels, and no one is telling the taxpayer what it is.  The Zetas mentioned often that the elites will attempt to blow up bridges and tunnels just prior to the pole shift to keep migrants away from elite enclaves, and to trap city dwellers along the coasts. 

My question is what is the purpose of these towers?  Is it to disable bridges and tunnels to block migrants, are they meant to snoop on migrants, or are they white-hat attempts to protect the bridges and tunnels?

What is known is that it is a $100 million MTA project shrouded in secrecy and that 18 of them will be built around tunnels and bridges in the city. But what ARE they?  MTA's man in charge of the bridges and tunnels, Cedrick Fulton, has dodged the issue when asked about it.  MTA spends 100,000,000 on secret project

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) – Mysterious metal towers are popping up at local tunnels, and soon they’ll start appearing at bridges, too.

But even people on the MTA board in charge of the towers can’t say why they’re being used or what’s in them, CBS2’s Dave Carlin reports.

MTA secret towers at bridges and tunnels

[Nancy Lieder]

Declined as this was just posted new ZT! We must have been ships passing in the night, Juan, posting at the same time.

Juan F Martinez said:

Hi Nancy, would the Zetas comment on the recent disclosure that the NYC MTA is spending $100,000,000 on a Homeland Security project at all major bridges and tunnels, and no one is telling the taxpayer what it is.

[Stanislav]

Hi Nancy and Zetas,

Could the Zetas comment on the current situation in Catalonia and in Kurdistan?

We also have Calexit in 2018. And given the slow pace (currently!) of earth changes, it will take place.

Source of image: wiki

This situation showed incompetence of the authorities. Such actions only aggravate an already complex situation

Catalan referendum: 38 injured amid reports of rubber bullets fired by Spanish police

"Violence breaks out in Barcelona as riot police attack protests, while Catalans cast independence votes in peaceful defiance of Spanish government"

Greenfield, P., Jones, S., & Burgen, S. (2017, October 01). Catalan referendum: 38 injured amid reports of rubber bullets fired by Spanish police - live. Retrieved October 01, 2017, from https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2017/oct/01/catalan-independ...

Iraq Escalates Dispute With Kurds, Threatening Military Action

"The Iraqi government escalated its confrontation with its northern Kurdish region on Wednesday, threatening to send troops and seize oil fields there and taking steps to shut down international flights to and from the region"

Zucchino, D. (2017, September 27). Kurds Back Independence by 92% in Referendum; Iraq May Send Troops. Retrieved October 01, 2017, from https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/27/world/middleeast/kurdistan-refer...

But there are also opinions that they were pushed to this, in the style of Kosovo, Ukraine, etc.

In the world, more and more independent states are formed.

Boundaries GIS data source (shapefile) : web.archive.org - library.thinkquest.org

Thank you very much

[Nancy Lieder]

Though this is excellent research, the question is declined as being just politics, essentially. Of course there is unease on every front as the End Times approaches (http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue561.htm). The Soros groups would like Martial Law yesterday to protect their assets (http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue455.htm) so Black Lives Matter and kneeling rather than standing during the anthem are incited. No doubt Cali seceding is also assisted by Soros and Hillary funds, though seceding by Texas during the Obama regime was a very real possibility too (http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue446.htm). Russia has Chechen rebels and Europe is infested with ISIS placed there by Merkel and Erdogan for an European takeover. Africa has terrorist groups. The right and left fight in every country.

Keeping our eye on the ball, on the horizon, when the Earth changes increase, devastating the control of the establishment everywhere, there will be splinters in every direction. You think there are factions NOW, just wait. Martial Law will increase but who will be in control? So trying to ask the Zetas to sort this out, moment by moment, as it proceeds, is declined. Expect chaos. As noted above. This will proceed to be STS camps vs STO camps. That's the trend to watch.

Stanislav said:

Could the Zetas comment on the current situation in Catalonia and in Kurdistan?

[SongStar101]

Could the Zetas please explain a bit about this phenomenon?

And suddenly a purple arc appeared in the night sky

http://strangesounds.org/2017/09/steve-mysterious-auroral-arc-purpl...

And suddenly a purple arc appeared in the sky. It was the mysterious aurora known as “Steve”

The Canadian Prairies seems to be ideal for sighting Steve, as they often get the main aurora to the north, placing Steve overhead or to the south. The Steve arc appeared for only about 20 minutes, starting at 10:45 pm MDT:

======================================

https://amazingsky.net/2017/05/12/meet-steve-the-odd-auroral-arc/

There’s been a lot of publicity lately about an unusual form of aurora that appears as a stationary arc across the sky, isolated from the main aurora to the north. It usually just sits there – motionless, featureless, and colourless to the eye, though the camera can pick up magenta and green tints.

We often see these strange auroral arcs from western Canada.

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email:

Mississippi River going dry above New Madrid Fault - Crack in ground? River gauges/pics show the Mighty Mississippi River going dry! New Madrid related?
[and from another]
https://youtu.be/EjwjUkoAxEM
September 29, 2017: 130 mile stretch of the Mighty Mississippi River from Tennessee to NW Mississippi is completely dry in places, so low making it impossible for barge traffic to deliver grain to the International or National markets.
[and from another]
https://youtu.be/I_XWW9CNWMU
October 1, 2017: Has a crack formed in the bottom of the Mississippi River leaking water down into the New Madrid Fault? The Mighty Mississippi is getting very low, even bone dry in some places. No drought. Where is the water going?
[and from another]
http://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/CurrentMap/StateDroughtMonitor.aspx?M...





SOZT
Is the mighty Mississippi so low above Memphis that barges can hardly navigate? Drought in the states feeding the Mississippi has been very moderate, and does not account for the river depth in the Memphis region. The river is at a normal depth upstream at or above St Louis, IL. The temporary low water depth at Memphis is due to heaving in the ground there, stress on the New Madrid Fault Line, and this stress will come and go until the New Madrid adjusts. Temporarily, the flow of the Mississippi is being held back, a fact that is not notable as the water above Memphis is not at flood stage.

Heaving land was noted during the last major New Madrid adjustment, when the river was reported to run backward. Rock strata being asked to rip on a diagonal will resist, and during this resistance will bunch up to create a heave. When the pressure to rip at a diagonal is eased, due to land ELSEWHERE moving instead, then the heave relaxes and seemingly goes back to normal. When the quakes in Mexico no longer suffice, then the New Madrid Fault Line will itself begin making its move.
EOZT

[Chris]

Hello Nancy, any comment on who this guy actually was and why he did this?
https://www.rt.com/usa/405409-isis-responsibility-vegas-shooting/

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted

Chris said:

Hello Nancy, any comment on who this guy actually was and why he did this?

[and from another]
Here's a second angle from where the shooting is coming from and it appears to be on the lower floors.   Of course, CNN still going with official story of the lone gunman. Looks like a false flag operation to me.
[and from another]
https://www.rt.com/usa/405409-isis-responsibility-vegas-shooting/
The Las Vegas shooter, who killed 59 people and injured hundreds more, did so on behalf of Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL), according to an IS-affiliated website. The FBI says the perpetrator had no connections to international terrorist groups.
[and from another]
https://www.facebook.com/TheAlexJonesChannel/posts/1703741896343718
[and from another]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=Gu9Z_KzcS3s
[and from another]
https://www.infowars.com/second-shooter-footage-shows-las-vegas-gun...
Footage from the shooting in Las Vegas Sunday night appearing to show gunfire emanating from the center of the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino could likely be a strobe light. FBI agents reportedly stormed Room 135 on the 32nd story of the Mandalay Bay hotel, and photos show two windows shot out on the edge of the right side of the building.
[and from another]
https://www.infowars.com/fbi-source-vegas-shooter-found-with-antifa...
The FBI team took the suspect out after he opened fired on them, according to the source, and afterwards the team found photos taken in the Middle East of a woman linked to the suspect, 64-year-old Stephen Paddock. A police scanner transcript (from the Daily Mail) collaborates with the source’s revelation:
[and from another]
https://youtu.be/IdoQq5bn7b4
[and from another]
https://youtu.be/475_Hc5MheI
[and from another]
http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/03/us/las-vegas-shooting-investigation/i...
At least 59 people were killed and 527 were injured in the shooting that started late Sunday night. Police believe he killed himself, ending the massacre.  Police searched the gunman's home in Mesquite, Nevada, where they found at least 19 firearms, explosives, several thousand rounds of ammunition and some electronic devices. In Paddock's 32nd-floor hotel room at the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino, police recovered 23 weapons, including a handgun, and multiple rifles -- some had scopes on them. Authorities also found several pounds of ammonium nitrate, a material used to make explosives, in his car. As police uncovered more evidence, they're still piecing together a motive. There was no explanation so far on why Paddock, a 64-year-old retired accountant who had never faced any notable criminal charges, unleashed a hailstorm of bullets into concertgoers. So far, police believe Paddock acted alone.
[and from another]
http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/02/us/las-vegas-attack-stephen-paddock-t...
One point of intrigue has emerged from the shooter's background, courtesy of his brother: Their father was a bank robber. According to the FBI, Benjamin Hoskins Paddock was on its most-wanted list from June 10, 1969 until May 5, 1977. He escaped from prison in 1969 and lived on the run until 1978, when he was arrested in Oregon, the Eugene Register-Guard reported at the time. Eric Paddock said his father died a few years ago. Eric said he was born while his father was on the run. They were married for four years and nine months.


SOZT
Details about the Las Vegas shooter’s life are emerging, showing a man who had the intelligence to accumulate wealth, but spent his retirement gambling. Had he lost it all? That he was becoming increasingly paranoid was apparent in that he had amassed a huge arsenal of guns. This was not a sudden snap, but a steady decline, over months and years. The fact that his girlfriend of many years recently left him is an indication of his decline, his touchy ego, and constant ruminating about his future and safety in general.  

Was Stephen Paddock, as a young boy, affected by his father, who was on the run for years while being sought by the FBI for bank robbery? Young boys both fear and admire their fathers, and the impression young Stephen got was that the family had to be on guard. Young minds cannot sort out the reasons for the paranoia, but the lingering sense of urgency and dread lingers. Despite conspiracy theories, this was not ISIS inspired nor some kind of Manchurian Candidate setup by the CIA to do a False Flag operation. He worked alone.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

Will add this to the Question.

Torsten Greifenstein said:

Looks like false flag, or staged by CIA / FBI?!

[Stanislav]

Hi Nancy and Zetas,

Could the Zetas comment on these negative trends. Elite is gaining strength before falling

Google’s chief search engineer legitimizes new censorship algorithm

31 July, 2017. "Between April and June, Google completed a major revision of its search engine that sharply curtails public access to Internet web sites that operate independently of the corporate and state-controlled media. Since the implementation of the changes, many left wing, anti-war and progressive web sites have experienced a sharp fall in traffic generated by Google searches. The World Socialist Web Site has seen, within just one month, a 70 percent drop in traffic from Google." [1]

Swiss central bank steps up stock buying spree

30 August, 2016. "Switzerland’s central bank now owns more publicly-traded shares in Facebook than Mark Zuckerberg, part of a mushrooming stock portfolio that is likely to grow yet further." [2]

This affected ZetaTalk.

https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/zetatalk.com

and poleshift.ning

https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/poleshift.ning.com

I'll try shortly:

They introduce censorship on the Internet, cash ban is already being pushed in many countries, Media become more consolidated [4], defense spending is growing amid economic problems, economic and climate data are manipualted [5], [6] and etc.

That list could be even longer. The control is greatly increased.

References:

[1] Damon, A. (2017, July 31). World Socialist Web Site. Retrieved October 10, 2017, from https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/07/31/goog-j31.html

[2] McLaughlin, A. T., & DavidStamp, E. B. (2016, August 30). Swiss central bank steps up stock buying spree. Retrieved October 10, 2017, from https://www.reuters.com/article/swiss-snb-stocks/swiss-central-bank...

[4] Lutz, A. (2012, June 14). These 6 Corporations Control 90% Of The Media In America. Retrieved October 10, 2017, from http://www.businessinsider.com/these-6-corporations-control-90-of-t...

[5] Singer's Elliott Says Optimism on U.S. Growth Unwarranted. (2014, November 04). Retrieved October 10, 2017, from https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-11-04/singer-s-elliott...

[6] Bombshell study: Temperature Adjustments Account For 'Nearly All Of The Warming' In Government Climate Data. (2017, July 06). Retrieved October 10, 2017, from https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/07/06/bombshell-study-temperature-...

[Nancy Lieder]

Basically, control of the media, control of public perceptions. Accepted question.

Stanislav said:

Could the Zetas comment on these negative trends. Elite is gaining strength before falling.

Could the Zetas comment on these negative trends. Elite is gaining strength before falling. They introduce censorship on the Internet, cash ban is already being pushed in many countries, Media become more consolidated, defense spending is growing amid economic problems, economic and climate data are manipulated. That list could be even longer. The control is greatly increased. This affected ZetaTalk and Pole Shift ning.
[and from another]
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/07/31/goog-j31.html
Google’s chief search engineer legitimizes new censorship algorithm. July 31, 2017.
Between April and June, Google completed a major revision of its search engine that sharply curtails public access to Internet web sites that operate independently of the corporate and state-controlled media. Since the implementation of the changes, many left wing, anti-war and progressive web sites have experienced a sharp fall in traffic generated by Google searches. The World Socialist Web Site has seen, within just one month, a 70 percent drop in traffic from Google. Google has recruited some 10,000 “evaluators” to judge the “quality” of various web domains. What this means, concretely, is that Google decides not only what political views it wants censored, but also what sites are to be favored.
[and from another]
https://www.reuters.com/article/swiss-snb-stocks/swiss-central-bank...
Swiss central bank steps up stock buying spree. August 30, 2016.
Switzerland’s central bank now owns more publicly-traded shares in Facebook than Mark Zuckerberg, part of a mushrooming stock portfolio that is likely to grow yet further.
[and from another]
https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/zetatalk.com
[and from another]
https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/poleshift.ning.com
[and from another]
http://www.businessinsider.com/these-6-corporations-control-90-of-t...
These 6 Corporations Control 90% Of The Media In America. June 14, 2012. That's consolidated from 50 companies back in 1983. 
[and from another]
Singer's Elliott Says Optimism on U.S. Growth Unwarranted. November 4, 2014.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-11-04/singer-s-elliott...
Optimism on U.S. growth is misguided as economic data understate inflation and overstate growth, and central bank policies of the past six years aren’t sustainable.
[and from another]
Bombshell study: Temperature Adjustments Account for 'Nearly All of the Warming' In Government Climate Data. July 6, 2017.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/07/06/bombshell-study-temperature-...
In fact, almost all the surface temperature warming adjustments cool past temperatures and warm more current records, increasing the warming trend.



SOZT
It is well known that dictatorships control the perceptions of the public by controlling the media. There is the state owned media outlet and then there are others who are nervous guests and tread carefully. Journalists in combat are killed, supposedly by accident, if they do not report what the field commanders wish the public to hear. Politics is rift with lies, rarely exposed, with politicians bought by the wealthy to do their bidding. And this battle for truth is an ongoing battle even in those countries which declare themselves the premier democracies on planet Earth.

The truth is the enemy of those who would control the world, continue their control in the face of a truth that would ruin this grip. We have spoken continuously about the cover-up over the pending passage of Nibiru, as this threatens the control of those who perceive themselves as running the world. The banking industry would certainly be damaged by the truth. Debt slavery of the working classes would be halted, debts unpaid, mortgages unpaid, replaced by the barter system. Corporate control would be the second victim, as the public realized they did not need the products or services advertised.

If money becomes worthless, then the elite are reduced to the level of the common man, and this is unthinkable to the elite. The stakes are high during the cover-up over Nibiru, and as the truth is threatening to explode due to visibility of the Nibiru complex in the skies and the violence of the daily Earth wobble. The elite are frantic to erect defenses. Their dilemma is that to deny Nibiru would increasingly be self-defeating, as they would lose credibility with the common man. As we have stated, the Internet will never be controlled, as it was built to withstand blockages.  

What to do, then, to control perceptions? We stated when the David Meade theory about the September 23, constellation lineup emerged earlier in 2017 that this was designed to discredit the Nibiru theories, but this failed as it only connected the public to ZetaTalk where the truth lay. This was in great part due to the Junta which has run the US since the last years of Obama, as it has forced Google to ensure that the Wiki article featuring Nancy and ZetaTalk be up top in any search. The major media in the West tries to present a diverse face, but is absolutely restricting news, but the truth has many friends, such as Russia, to counteract these maneuvers. In the end, tight media control will explode, like a dam breaking under the weight of water, with truth running in all directions. Media moguls will create the future they fear, thus.
EOZT