ZetaTalk Chat for February 4, 2017

[Nancy Lieder]

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3. The Zetas, as all visitors, are under rules on how they interact with humanity. They are not here to rescue you. They cannot divert Planet X just as today they do not prevent droughts or floods. The Earth is mankind’s schoolhouse whereby he learns to help his fellow man.
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Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 70 [73] years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email:

There is building buzz around the newly discovered asteroid labeled 2016 WF9. NASA is saying it will not come near the earth yet there are other Astronomers from around the world that are saying this is a piece of Nibiru’s tail and it is headed for a close call or full on impact. It is different than other asteroids in it’s make up and actions. It does not have a characteristic tail and does not reflect light as other asteroids do.  
[and from another]
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2709970/massive-asteroid-2016-wf9-to-...
 [and from another]
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6712
[and from another]
This one details the Russian astronomer and his thoughts.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/759540/asteroid-crash-earth-2...
The object, known as 2016 WF9, is hurtling towards Earth and is being tracked by NASA. NASA says the object, which could be a comet or an asteroid, will safely pass Earth at a distance of nearly 32 million miles on February 25. But Russian astronomer Dr Dyomin Damir Zakharovich has said the space agency is wrong. Dr Zakharovich believes the object could hit on February 16 sparking catastrophic tsunamis and causing the planet’s seas to boil. The Russian says the mysterious object comes from the rogue planet Niburu, also called Planet X, on the edge of the solar system.  The object they call WF9 left the Nibiru system in October when Nibiru began spinning counter clockwise around the sun.




SOZT
We stated early in the ZetaTalk saga, even before Nibiru became visible in observatory sightings in 2001, that it has assumed a retrograde orbit. It did so to evade what we have called the Sweeping Arms
http://www.zetatalk.com/science/s85.htm
of the Sun, which reaches out from the Sun as it rotates in a counterclockwise motion. The Sun rotates in this direction, and forces all the planets in the inner Solar System to orbit in this direction. Thus asteroids from the Asteroid Belt are likewise impelled to travel in a counterclockwise manner. Debris in the tail of Nibiru is on the increase, and after struggling to claim it is space junk returning to Earth or annual meteor showers or perhaps an asteroid, the media fell silent.

Why would a Russian astronomer state that a passing asteroid is an escapee from the tail of Nibiru? By whatever means, the awakening of the public to the existence of Nibiru and thus the pending passage of Nibiru will not be blunt and direct. There will more than likely be an increasing awareness of the SIGNS that Nibiru has arrived. One of these signs, of course, is the plethora of bolides and fireballs screaming to Earth since 2004. As in the case of the Chelyabinsk bolide,
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/16fe2013.htm
which came from the direction of the Sun, vs Asteroid 2012 DA14, which tracked in on the Earth’s orbit just behind the Earth, both in their counterclockwise orbits, this discussion will tend to prove Nibiru’s presence near the Sun.

As can be seen by photos of the Nibiru system, this tail curves out from Nibiru in a clockwise manner, a retrograde manner, curling under the Sun and thence up to the left. Nibiru itself also has a retrograde rotation. What will be the result of this Russian astronomer’s claims? More headlines with Nibiru in the title. More discussion on just what rotates in a retrograde manner in the Solar System. More awareness that the rash of fireballs and bolides afflicting the Earth are retrograde at their arrival. More examination of the history of asteroid WF9 in October to the present, and more “discoveries” in the news.
EOZT

Prior 2013 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/16fe2013.htm
Clearly not an asteroid, the Chelyabinsk meteor came from the direction of the Sun, where Planet X, aka Nibiru, is wafting its vast debris ridden tail. Does the Chelyabinsk meteor usher in a new era of larger and more devastating fireballs descending upon the Earth? Without a question, and all will be coming from the direction of the Sun.

[Stanislav]

Hi Nancy and Zetas,

Why do so many people criticize to Trump's immigration policy? Dozens of CEOs and many countries and Hillary

Google, Apple, Netflix, More Tech Companies Protest Trump's Immigration Order. Source: billboard.com

Judge blocks deportations as Trump order sparks global outrage. Source: politico.com

Merkel says Trump immigration ban 'not justified' Source: rte.ie

Iran retaliates, Canada opens arms after Trump immigration ban. Source: usatoday.com

'This is not who we are': Hillary Clinton's reaction to Trump's immigration ban. Source: dnaindia.com

and etc

It begins to seem that its Trump immigration policy is not so simple at first sight! We already know about the plans of Merkel to use migrants as slaves from previous ZetaTalk. It seems that the open-door policy is done on purpose, the Bush clique (destabilize the countries to impose martial law).  And they use the situation (with refugees). Of course it's clear that many factors implicated but maybe this is the main (or one of main).  And it looks like the situation with Mexico is not so simple.

Thank you very much

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted. I'm sure there are many agendas.

Stanislav said:

Why do so many people criticize to Trump's immigration policy?

Dozens of CEOs and many countries and Hillary. It begins to seem that its Trump immigration policy is not so simple at first sight! We already know about the plans of Merkel to use migrants as slaves from previous ZetaTalk. It seems that the open-door policy is done on purpose, the Bush clique (destabilize the countries to impose martial law).  And they use the situation (with refugees). Of course it's clear that many factors implicated but maybe this is the main (or one of main).  And it looks like the situation with Mexico is not so simple.
[and from another]
Google, Apple, Netflix, More Tech Companies Protest Trump's Immigration Order
http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7669985/google-apple-netflix...
[and from another]
Judge blocks deportations as Trump order sparks global outrage
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/trump-refugees-lawsuit-iraq-v...
[and from another]
Merkel says Trump immigration ban 'not justified'
https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0129/848487-us-politics-immigration/
[and from another]
Iran retaliates, Canada opens arms after Trump immigration ban
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/01/28/iran-retaliates-canad...
 [and from another]
'This is not who we are': Hillary Clinton's reaction to Trump's immigration ban
http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report-this-is-not-who-we-are-hillary...
[and from another]
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-01-29/may-under-fi...

SOZT
After ISIS attacks in France,
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue435.htm
Denmark,  
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/28no2015.htm
and Germany and gang rapes by immigrant men in Sweden and Germany, it is clear what an open border policy would mean for the US. ISIS has begun attacks in Turkey
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/02jy2016.htm
now too. Even after death, Soros funds continue to fund these attacks and riots such as Black Lives Matter within the US.  
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue512.htm
Soros even attempted to inflame Muslims by funding a Mohammad cartoon contest.
http://zetatalk.com/ning/30ma2015.htm
Have these threats gone away? Given her covert plans for a takeover of Europe with Erdogan, with the assist of ISIS soldiers, Merkel’s comments
http://zetatalk.com/ning/01oc2016.htm
should be expected and ignored.  

Trump is moving aggressively on many campaign promises, so there has been little time for travelers and airports and federal agencies to adjust ahead of time. Suddenly, there are people retained at airports or blocked in the middle of their journey. Change is always traumatic to some swept up in the process. Employers
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/trump-travel-ban-stirs-faint-corporate-ou...
find their anticipated cheap labor is missing, while American workers get employed. Families separated by miles may find a loved one unable to return, but families in the process of emigrating always have these issues. Why is there all this uproar now? In the main, it is the anti-Trump
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/schumer-tears-up-as-he-calls-trum...
pro-Hillary sentiment. But it is also the lingering grip of the Soros agenda,
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/24de2016.htm
trying to manipulate the world
http://www.infowars.com/soros-funded-groups-behind-effort-to-stop-t...
even after death.  
EOZT

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/24de2016.htm
Why would NATO and Soros and the Hillary crime family and the Jewish bankers in control of the IMF and World Bank not simply want peace? They are losing control. Trump has made his opinion on NATO clear. It is an anachronism, a leftover from World War II. To renew the alliance, there must be war! Soros considered himself a kingmaker, and wanted Europe to push into western Russia, into their oil and gas fields, for the benefit of Europe. Thus, he incited the coup in the Ukraine. Soros also wanted chaos in the US. As a hedge fund guy, he always won from chaos. But he also wanted Martial Law declared as soon as possible so the elite, presumably, would be protected from the masses. Soros and wealthy Jews supported Hillary because she would not prosecute Wall Street or the 911 insiders – the Bush crime family.

Prior ZT: http://zetatalk.com/ning/01oc2016.htm
Merkel has been an aggressive proponent of bringing in Syrian refugees, who seem to be disproportionately young men rather than complete families with women and young children and the aged. This begs the question, why did these young men desert their families? The suggestion made by this German engineer, in his deathbed confession, is that this refugee welcome is deliberate, to sculpt the population into a worker force rather than a citizen base demanding social services. The refugee influx into Europe has proved to be a disaster, with an aggressive counter push to keep refugees in their homeland, to be resettled there. Was this Merkel’s plan, and has it failed? Yes.

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/02jy2016.htm
Terrorism at the hand of ISIS has increased in Turkey in step with Turkey’s reluctance to continue to support ISIS. As Russia has pointed out, in fact proven, Erodogan’s son was brokering oil for ISIS, by this funding ISIS terrorism elsewhere while enriching the Erdogan family. ISIS is furious at Turkey for turning its back on them, and is punishing Turkey as a result.

Prior ZT: http://zetatalk.com/ning/30ma2015.htm
The Charlie Hebdo incident in France showed that it takes only a cartoon to incite a jihad. Who is behind the attempts to bring ISIS attacks to the US? Soros is known for supporting ultra-left organizations, including those supporting Islamic principles. When one aspires to be a kingmaker, the ability to incite a jihad is a card to be held. The elite desire to force Obama to declare martial law to defend their enclaves and assets.

[ewarlock]

Quebec-city-mosque-gun-shots

Are the shooting only the work of only one individual or others groups are involved? This remind me of immigrations issues and the new Trump policies. It seems the guy was pro Israel.

[Nancy Lieder]

Always groups, if only to some degree. Must decline due to workload and these incidents will not stop. As the Earth changes pick up, rioting and panic will too.

ewarlock said:

Quebec-city-mosque-gun-shots

Are the shooting only the work of only one individual or others groups are involved? This remind me of immigrations issues and the new Trump policies. It seems the guy was pro Israel.

[Nancy Lieder]

test for Latest Activity bug ...

[Nancy Lieder]

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[James Lechago]

Does Bannon play any role in the disclosure of planet X? The zetas have said that there will be no direct announcement from Trump. but the very presence of Bannon in the white house apparently writing policy is alarmimg. Is Bannon just a sideshow? Does he serve a purpose in the disclosure? I understand the need for security and change. But the way in which the administration is doing things appears to be hurting many people. I doubt I'm the only one that wishes that Bernie Sanders had won the democratic primary. Did he receive help during the primaries or is there a reason that the Council Of Worlds would prefer Trump?

[Nancy Lieder]

Declined. Please note that until earlier this week, the Zetas had NOTHING to say about how the announcement would proceed, other than to point to the Prongs. It was YOUR CURIOSITY IS NOT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, and that GIVING IT AWAY ONLY EMPOWERS THE ENEMY. I yelled at everyone, in prior weeks. Then Dr. Z the Russian astronomer made his statements about a hunk of rock from Nibiru, that asteroid 2016 WF9 was that, and talking about retrograde orbits. This week we had a CLUE about how the announcement might proceed. And you, James, want the whole enchilada laid out for you right away. Read these words from ZT given just this week.  Read prior descriptions on the Transformation team. That's as much as you are going to get.

By whatever means, the awakening of the public to the existence of Nibiru and thus the pending passage of Nibiru will not be blunt and direct. There will more than likely be an increasing awareness of the signs that Nibiru has arrived.

Then there was the description of the Transformation Team, given by the Zetas last week. http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/28ja2017.htm Did you see Bernie Sanders or Bannon in the list?If you don't understand the process, or are not included in the group so that you have inside info, then you must WAIT to see what unfolds!

There is confusion among humans reading our description of the Transformation Team, which includes both humans and aliens working as a team, and the broader world of human society on Earth.

http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/10de2016.htm

The Transformation Team, as we have explained, is composed of many parts. Ben Fulford and his groups, Wikileaks and Assange, Anonymous working with millions of contactees behind the scenes, General Dunford who is currently in charge in the US, the Puppet Master who wishes to see the populace of the world informed about Nibiru and the pending passage, and his protégé Trump, ourselves at ZetaTalk and Nancy, and many, many others who quietly work behind the scenes. This Transformation Team owes their strength to the backing of the Council of Worlds, who went to war with the elite of Earth over their objection to the Nibiru announcement.

http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue517.htm

James Lechago said:

Does Bannon play any role in the disclosure of planet X?

[James Lechago]

Thank you Nancy. Sorry for my impatience. 

Nancy Lieder Post Script: I do realize that when Obama was trying to do the announcement, we were constantly reporting on the attempts and what stopped them. Oh, Emergency Broadcast lines were cut. Oval Office 30 second delay. Many assassination attempts against Obama. Then Jade Helm braced for the announcement. When all that ultimately failed because Obama "lacked courage" we moved to the Prongs. That too was all out in the open, what this or that Prong revealed, how much ground was covered. Even talking about Dr. Z's opinion of Asteroid 2016 WF9 the Zetas were pointing out its relationship to the announcement. But what is NEXT, and WHO would do it, would be revealing the plan to the bad guys, who still want to keep the public dumb. So suddenly, mum's the word from the Zetas. And I realize this is a bit of a shock to the public who expects something different, based on past announcement phases.

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email: I have gotten several questions on this matter, but declined them as the Zetas refused them. My take was that they would have to engage with Service-to-Self aliens to do so, and it was not worth their time to engage. If the Service-to-Self have walked away from this operation, then the Service-to-Other aliens doing ZetaTalk are no longer restrained from talking freely about this matter. SO, the Zetas signaled me that they would accept the question. These links are from various email I declined, recently. Many of the links do seem to be related to disinfo sites or rely entirely on reports from Corey Goode. Though Ben Fulford has made mention also from his sources. 

The question is “what is going on here” and “is any of this true?”  
[and from another]
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2017/01/flash-frozen-alien-civ...
[and from another]
https://youtu.be/vLJuLfHWmp0
[and from another]
https://sitsshow.blogspot.com/2017/01/benjamin-fulford-january-9th-...
[and from another]
http://operationdisclosure.blogspot.co.uk/2017/01/benjamin-fulford-...
The source, who is a direct relative of a famous World War 2 Admiral, also had some X-files stuff to say namely that: “Two timelines are converging now and when that convergence is finished we will have full disclosure. This is why all of the major world leaders went to Antarctica, and continue to arrive every day. The ancient lost city is already in view. This is what I have been calling ‘The Base’ in earlier transmissions and discussions. Everything is there and the elites have been arriving by their special craft not only to seek protection from being arrested, but also to try and make a deal with the Galactics who are in control of the entire area now. There are those in the top ranks of the elite who are in ‘The City’ now and attempting to make a deal to get into the healing chambers. Kissinger included.”


SOZT
We stated in the past, in 2012, when asked about a Google Earth spaceport image,  
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/27oc2012.htm
that alien entities had used Antarctica in the past. We stressed that this was not mankind’s port, but alien, and did not exclude the Annunaki from that group. We also stated in the past, in 1997, that the Piri Reis map
http://zetatalk.com/poleshft/p87.htm
was showing Antarctica from days when it was not covered in ice. That said, are the reports of a city under the ice true, and was this an Annunaki base? There are many discoveries waiting to be uncovered in Antarctica, and obviously where there are space port entries, there is more than an entry to be discovered.

Despite disinformation being spread by Corey Goode and his cohorts under the influence of Service-to-Self liars, there will be NO alien technology made available to mankind by any such discoveries. Treat this like Egyptian tombs, or Tibetan artifacts – revealing of past civilizations but not technology waiting to have a switch thrown. For the Service-to-Self to leave technology lying about, even abandoned on an ice covered continent, would be against the Council of Worlds rules, as we have stated on many occasions. Do the artifacts include Annunaki bodies? Awaiting cremation, yes, and abandoned during a past Pole Shift when evacuation became an emergency.

Ben Fulford reported what a source told HIM, and Ben has on occasion failed colossally in his reports from various sources. He had Hillary Clinton dead, Neil Keenan dead, MH 370 found in Japan, and now reports about the Antarctica find. It is true we could not formerly comment on these finds, as to do so would be to engage the Service-to-Self. They have since abandoned the scam, which was to entice many humans such as Kissinger and the Clintons, operating in the Service-to-Self, into close consulting relationships with the aliens conducting the scam. Since Hillary lost the election and is under house arrest, and Kissinger is unwelcome everywhere, no more time is being devoted to them.  
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

As is our usual practice we are closing this 2/4 Q&A so answers can be prepared for the web. Please post your new questions on the chat for 2/11. Thank you.

http://poleshift.ning.com/forum/topics/zetatalk-chat-for-february-1...