Stainless Steel Water Distiller Design

[MegaMontana]

The following water distiller design is derived from the design that Mike offered on the Troubled Times website. This design, with it's condensing pot, can produce a 1/2 gallon of distilled water every hour, or 1 cup (8 oz.) every 7.5 minutes. The parts are all stainless steel. Water distillation is the one and only method recommended by the Zetas to purify your water. In all likelihood, water distillation will be needed before the hour of the poleshift even arrives. Building a water distiller seems simple but it is not all that easy. An efficient water distiller that can be operated with any heat source, most importanly fire, cannot necessarily be bought, so many look to other ways of water purification, mainly the water filter. It will always be a matter of opinion, but for those with children who will depend on them, it is urged to take a hard look at reality and what a water filter can do for you in the long term. Survival is no easy matter regardless of preparations, but since water is one of the most important aspects of survival, it should be one of the first steps taken.

I've been experimenting with different distiller designs for several years now, all the while I knew Mike's design was the best. I was intimidated by it since I had no metal working skills and wood was hard enough to work with. All the designs I came up with didn't even come close to what Mike's design could accomplish, so I sort of gave up for a while. Finally I got my act together since I don't like giving up, and created a prototype using aluminum and copper parts, since they are easier to work with than stainless steel. There were a number of failures on my part and the feeling that I wasn't going to conquer this task. I do not have welding skills, but I bought a mini kit and soon found out that I can't even keep the flame lit once the oxygen is turned on. After about 10 seconds of trying to weld, the flame would burn out, and make a loud noise at the same time which added to my insecurity. I finally bought a simple and safer propane torch and decided on lead free solder. It took me a while to get the hang of it and I found that you need the soldering flux that plumbers use or the solder will not bond well. But once it's properly done, the connection is very sturdy. Finally I had a complete distiller made of aluminum and copper that performed to my expectations of a 1/2 gallon every hour. Then the complaints came in that distilled water leached aluminum and copper, making it unsafe to drink in the long term. Apparently only stainless steel was acceptable. I didn't buy into this myth because logic and common sense tell a different story (note water tests for proof), but in an effort to appease the crowd and hopefully make a difference in the lives of children that must rely on adults for their future, an all stainless steel water distiller was made which costs more and is a metal that is much tougher to work with.

Plans are provided by Howard based on the specifications given to him and these can be taken to a metal worker if you do not feel comfortable making one yourself. In fact, I would recommend it since welding would be considered stronger and more reliable than soldering. If you choose to solder like I did, it should be noted that solder does not bond well with stainless steel, so all connections will have to be made extra tight to begin with and the solder acts like more of a gasket. But with aluminum and copper, the solder bonds very well.

This distiller utilizes a stainless steel pot to boil the contaminated water. A stainless steel pizza pan then sits on top. By using a pizza pan, it can be used on just about anything that can boil water, making it versatile. The steam travels up the 4 stainless steel tubes, into the stainless steel pie pan, where it hits the bottom of the stainless steel condensing pot that sits on top of the pie pan. The water in this pot creates the necessary temperature change to condense the steam into distilled water, where it collects in the pie pan and empties through the stainless steel drain tube. A high temperature, inert food grade silicone tube can be attached to the drain tube in order to allow water to drain into a collection container of your choice. Make sure the silicone tube has the same OD (outer diameter) of the drain tube, in this case 1/4". If the silicone tube is even just a bit larger, chances are it won't fit tight enough. To enlarge the end of a silicone tube to fit perfectly, heat it up in boiling water and then insert an object such as a pen to enlarge the tube just enough to fit over the stainless steel drain tube perfectly.

The part that will have to be constructed consists of a 16" stainless steel pizza pan, a 9" stainless steel pie pan, 4 pieces of stainless steel tubing - 1/2" OD (outer diameter) - cut to 8" each, and 1 stainless steel tube - 1/4 " OD - cut to 7-8" as the drainage tube. High temperature silicone tubing also comes in handy. It's guaranteed inert for beverages and withstands temps of up to 350 degrees Fahrenheit. I use 1/2" OD silicone tubing, split down the middle with scissors, and place it around the lip of the bottom boiling pot to create a better seal so steam will not escape and the system remains pressurized. The top condensing pot provides weight that seems to keep things tight enough so steam will either not escape, or very little escapes. I find that even if a small amount of steam escapes, the production results are the same. If enough steam escapes though, the system won't be pressurized very well and production can be cut in half, which is actually still more water than most electric distillers on the market can produce.

Feel free to experiment if you wish with the design. Whether you make your distiller from all stainless steel, or an aluminum/copper combo, you will have a means of purifying any water source at your disposal in the aftertime. Bacteria and viruses will be killed by the boiling process and all heavy metals including lead and mercury will be left behind as the water evaporates on it's way to the condensing chamber. Further testing will be done to deal with chemicals that also evaporate and condense such as alcohol and petrol chemicals. You will know if this is in your water in any case from both the smell and the sheen it would produce on top of the water. I will be testing to see how long it takes to boil these contaminants off, or if they can be removed effectively enough through regular charcoal and/or sand. All results will be posted and it's encouraged that others try as well and post any constructive ideas.

The following water purity tests were conducted with a TDS meter. TDS stands for Total Dissolved Solids which are the total amount of mobile charged ions, including minerals, salts, or metals dissolved in a given volume of water. TDS, which is based on conductivity, is expressed in parts per million (ppm). TDS includes any conductive inorganic element present other than the pure water molecules. TDS affects everything that consumes, lives in or uses water, from fish and plants to plumbing and laboratories. For people, the lower the TDS level in the water you drink, the more efficiently your body's cells are hydrated. The higher the TDS level in water, the greater the probability of harmful contaminants that can pose health risks or hinder the absorption of water. The U.S. EPA's Maximum Contaminant Level of TDS for human consumption is 500 ppm. Though I've seen water testing done first hand at a water treatment plant, and after the first stage of purification, the water was at 500 ppm and it looked dirty and smelled rotten. The purest water after all treatments was 50 ppm and was worthy of any bottled water. After this water made it's way through all the pipes to your house, it would no longer be so pure. TDS meters can be used to check the performance of water filters and ensure your tap water is acceptable.

The TDS meter used for these tests is brand new and I manually calibrated it using a hydroponic calibrating solution set at 342 ppm. When choosing a calibrating solution, make sure to get one that is closest to your target readings to ensure maximum accuracy. For example, 1500 ppm would be too high, but would still give you acceptable accuracy. The TDS meter used in these tests has an accuracy discrepancy of +/- 2%, which is very acceptable. Each water sample was tested multiple times to ensure accuracy as well. Here are the results from round 1 -

Hot tap water stored in a tank - 200 ppm
Iced Tea sweetened with HFCS - 180 ppm
Cold running tap water - 145-150 ppm
Cold tap water run through a Pure Source 2 water filter - 130 ppm
First cup of distilled water from aluminum/copper water distiller - 10 ppm
Second cup of distilled water from aluminum/copper water distiller - 7 ppm
First cup of distilled water from all stainless steel water distiller - 2 ppm
Third cup of distilled water from all stainless steel water distiller - 1 ppm

That is correct. There were only 1-2 particles per million detectable in the distilled water from the stainless steel distiller. It just doesn't get much purer than that. There were a few more particles detected in the aluminum/copper distilled water. The condensing pot used with that distiller was also aluminum. A very old pot that looked questionable but I used it anyway for the sake of science. 7-10 ppm is still incredibly pure and is too small of an amount to cause any long term problems. I would be more concerned about what the 130 ppm is in the filtered water, but still, that is as pure of water as a person really needs.

That leaves one of the final arguments, which is that somehow you will lose minerals by drinking distilled water. This one is hard to prove but I advise would-be survivors to use their common sense here. Nobody can say they rely on water for their mineral intake. You get these from the edible greens around you. Dandelions and Amaranth, for example, have all your minerals. I'm willing to bet that your kidneys will be happy at the increase in your distilled water intake, as you're easing their work load. Here is a link to some information about drinking distilled water and various regions that rely on it. There have never been any tests or experiments that prove distilled water is dangerous in any way. Many doctors say there is nothing wrong with drinking distilled water. The purer the water, the easier it is for your body to utilize and absorb. Your body works hard to purify the fluids it's given and distilled water eases the burden. There will be real problems in your midst that will take all your focus and energy. Having distilled water on hand will only make your life easier in the aftertime.

Here is a full view of the distiller with condensing pot on top. I ended up using the smaller 12 quart pot on bottom and the larger 16 quart pot on top.

Here is the distillation unit that has to be constructed. A 16" pizza pan connected to a 9" pie pan with 4 stainless steel tubes.

Close up of drain tube.

Here is the drain tube connection from inside the pie pan. It must be as flush as possible to allow for instant drainage.

Inside of the pie pan where distilled water collects and drains. Notice how the center has been pounded up and the area where the drain tube is connected has been pounded as flat as possible.

Here is the bottom of the pizza pan that sits on top of the bottom boiling pot.

Here is the 1/2" silicone tubing, split down the middle, being applied to the lip of the boiling pot in order to create the tightest seal.

Here is the silicone tubing fully applied

And finally a pic of the copper/aluminum prototype

Here are the plans provided by Howard that can be used by a professional metal worker or anyone with welding skills that you might know.

[0zosqnzq2jcjr]

For those that are worried about the lack of minerals from distilled water should learn what those minerals are which is salt. Go to your local pet store and get a mineral salt lick and scrape a bit into the distilled water and shake for good measure adding in the oxygen. Also the problem with distilled water for me is the acidicity which incourages the cancers which thrive in acidic inviroments. However I have drank distilled water for years after seeing the military dump barrel after barrel of toxic goo into our waters here in Alaska, besides all the vets I personally know that worked in munitions also drink only distilled water. Your choice what you drink for now I get my water right out of the mountain suits me fine till the shift.

[Derrick Johnson]

I don’t think anyone needs to worry about drinking distilled water, it’s going to save your life and if you want to add minerals to your distilled water just put bones in it, the distilled water will dissolve the minerals in the bone. How do you think the minerals got in your water in the first place? They were dissolved when the water came in contact with the mineral.

 It’s really a non issue, ether way you will be fine so you don’t have to put bones in your water but it’s not a bad way to make use of them.

 

Here are some of the minerals in bones

http://www.mamashealth.com/bones

Bones are made of , minerals, and vitamins. Minerals present in bones are: calcium, potassium, manganese, magnesium, silica, iron, zinc, selenium, boron, phosphorus, sulfur, chromium, and dozens of others

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Another way you can add minerals to your diet is to put a teaspoon of honey and and a teaspoon of cider vinegar in a glass of warm water and perhaps add a quarter or half teaspoon of dolomite, then drink at least once per day.

[MegaMontana]

Thank you Raven, Derrick, Trish, and Julia for providing some ideas for adding minerals to distilled water. Perfect examples of the STO spiritual philosophy being enacted. Rather than beat your fists and spread falsehoods and propaganda, you took the other route and provided constructive ideas to help solve an important issue. I am honored.

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breaking news the water wise non electric water distiler is back in production I just ordered 1 today

[astrogal50]

Thank you, Dana!  Water Wise's any-heat-source distiller will likely be the best $400 I ever spent.  If necessary that particular distiller could be hauled on foot, unlike the large Berkey Water filtering systems far too many mistakenly assume can substitute for distilling all drinking water in the Aftertimes.

[1ol2r81w468cf]

Beware Astrogal50  My distiller just came in today via ups, and the water collection cup was broken from the drain tube.  Looks like they need to do a little better job welding that part together.  I have sent them an email to customer service telling them of the problem.

[3694up5uqjh5p]

Great Posting, MegaMontana.

I commend you on your sucessful water distiller.

I have experience with welding metals, such as brazing with an oxygen/acetylene torch, electric arc welding with a mig welder or stick welder. I'm not an expert, but possibly an intermediate. In reading all the comments I noticed an issue regarding some stainless steel pans was not weldable, as in what grade of stainless it was. I wonder if the shops had tried brazing using a bronze filler rod or silver solder rod, rather than using a mig or tig arc welder?

I have brazed many grades of stainless steel, cast iron, copper, as well as steel using bronze filler rods with great success. The trick in brazing stainless steel with bronze, if you or the welding shop hadn't tried it before, is the temperature the stainless steel is heated to. It has to be just hot enough for the bronze to flow out like water and it will adhere. if to hot or not hot enough the bronze will just form a ball on top. The same technique is used in brazing cast iron. As far as using it on copper or steel it's similar, but not as sensitive to getting the temperature right.

I hope this alternative welding method will help everyone interested in making their own.

Another comment I'd like to make to those requirering everything to be stainless steel, I don't see that it makes any difference what metal the bottom boiler pot is made of. Since it is filled with contaminated water, possibly having heavy metals dissolved in the water. When the water turns to steam the contaminates are left behind in the bottom pot, providing you don't over fire "heat" the bottom boiling pot. If that happens it "all" gets contaminated. You don't want water perculating up thru the tubes in the lid, as it will carry the contaminates with it, only the steam passing thru.

Remember folks, that in the times after the shift your stainless steel or any kind of water distiller for that matter, may become damaged in so many different ways. The key thing Is knowing how to build one with parts you find here and there, and knowing how it works.

I wonder if anyone has thought of making one out of clay and then firing it in a wood fired oven. This would be a useful skill to learn, as in how to make pottery and the like.

Thanks for allowing my ramblings.

[MegaMontana]

Yes, thank you very much for your input Edward. You provided very helpful information and I hope to use this knowledge in the near future.

[3694up5uqjh5p]

Julia, MegaMontana, You are all very welcome.

I'm happy I had something beneficial to offer, As it was this posting "Stainless Steel Water Distiller Design" that had urged me to become a member of the Ning. It goes to show there are many followers of ZetaTalk and the Ning, whom are not "Registered" members.

Kudos to Nancy & Gerard for making "ALL" possible.

[09d4iwot1gtyt]

I have used distilled water for drinking/cooking exclusively for over 40 yrs. I have 3 distillers, two that make ultra-pure water ( more pure than triple-distilled water) and the Waterwise 1600 for emergencies/camping/power outages. I was diagnosed with ms when I was 19 and spent over a year crossing the country looking for alternatives that would keep me off crutches or eventually a wheechair.  Two of the people I contacted were Paul Bragg (died as a result of a surfing accident at 95), who was Jack LaLanne's mentor and Dr. Norman Walker (1876-1985). Both of these men told me to drink distilled water and that it was the closest to rainwater (natures distilled water), but that in the modern age this water is no longer suitable for drinking without further purification.  Do members of the Remnant have a preferance for using ground or rainwater to distill? What about pre-filters to make the job easier for the distillers?  I have used milk filters that local dairymen use in their milk parlors when I went camping and used the WW 1600.  Stock up on the Dulse & Kelp forALL the minerals you need. Goin' jogging, later.

[astrogal50]

@Dana  Thank you for the update.

I purchased a Water Wise distiller many years ago, long before they became so sought after.  Production of those distillers may have been rushed to meet demand, but for $400 the welds should be perfect!  If that is the level of quality of Water Wise is offering now, then maybe members/readers are better off making their own distiller.

Please people:  If you are serious about surviving the pole shift and helping others, forget all about water filters and concentrate on distilling drinking water.