ZetaTalk Chat for July 31, 2025

[Nancy Lieder]

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3. The Zetas, as all visitors, are under rules on how they interact with humanity. They are not here to rescue you. They cannot divert Planet X just as today they do not prevent droughts or floods. The Earth is mankind’s schoolhouse whereby he learns to help his fellow man.
4. The date of the pole shift cannot be given, but the sequence of events can be given. [ Link ] Check the ning pinned discussions and blogs for such information as the 7 of 10, the last weeks, etc.

Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 78 years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

[Nancy Lieder]

Restricted Satellite Data. June 29, 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6PfG2kSDjs
[and from another]
Suspension of All Defense Meteorological Satellite Program (DMSP) Data by June 30, 2025
https://www.ospo.noaa.gov/data/messages/2025/06/MSG_20250625_1735.html
Due to recent service changes, the Defense Meteorological Satellite Program (DMSP) and Navy’s Fleet Numerical Meteorology and Oceanography Center (FNMOC) will discontinue ingest, processing and distribution of all DMSP data no later than June 30, 2025.  ESPC interfaces will not receive DMSP data and all data products will be suspended. Users should expect all FINE, SMOOTH and HOUSEKEEPING data from Operational Linescan System (OLS), Special Sensor Microwave Imager Sounder (SSMIS), and all Near-Earth Space Weather instruments to be terminated. This service change and termination will be permanent. 
[and from another]
Defense Department will Stop Providing Crucial Satellite Weather Data
June 28, 2025
https://www.npr.org/2025/06/28/nx-s1-5446120/defense-department-cut...
For more than 40 years, the Defense Department has operated satellites that collect information about conditions in the atmosphere and ocean. The Navy did not respond to questions about why it has stopped sharing the data with scientists and forecasters. "It's not an issue of funding cuts," says Mark Serreze, the director of the National Snow and Ice Data Center, a federally funded research center in Colorado that has relied on the soon-to-be-terminated Defense Department data to track sea ice since 1979. "There are cybersecurity concerns. That's what we're being told." The Navy did not respond to questions about what those concerns are.

SOZT
Why would NOAA suddenly cut off public access to the data their satellites provide? This costs them nothing and they state this is not a budgetary issue. There is only one explanation and that is that they do not want the public to know the extent of the Daily Earth Wobble and the extent of the Plate Movements being caused by Nibiru. In short, this is to delay awareness of Nibiru’s presence and approach. In addition, any views of Nibiru the NOAA satellites could provide will be removed from public view.

The Junta, understandably, wants to delay panic as long as possible. Meanwhile, President Trump is attempting to settle all wars around the globe, and get his Big Beautiful Bill into law so that the world can run on automatic under Martial Law when Nibiru is admitted. By taking away access to current NOAA satellite data, the Junta is forcing the public to rely upon historical data or upon what can be seen from the ground. All this can be argued and debated.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

Halt to US Military Aid could Spell Doom for Kiev
July 2, 2025
https://www.rt.com/news/620910-halt-us-supplies-doom-kiev/
The decision to halt arms shipments was made as part of the “America first” policy. The US needs to focus on maintaining its own “strategic defense capabilities” and particularly make sure that “we have enough Patriot missiles.” The list also includes Stinger and AIM air-to-air missiles, hundreds of Hellfire and GMLRS systems, and thousands of 155mm artillery shells. The lack of Patriot missiles could deal a particularly significant blow to Ukraine’s air defense capabilities as the US-made weapons are reportedly the only ones capable of intercepting Russian ballistic missiles. The halt in deliveries of AIM missiles could potentially leave the Ukrainian military struggling to intercept Russian strike drones. The lack of GMLRS munitions would also reportedly be “devastating” as it would make US-made HIMARS multiple rocket launchers used by the Ukrainian military “virtually useless.”  Kiev’s forces have just enough western-supplied weapons to last them until late summer. Moscow has repeatedly stated that Western weapons supplies only prolong hostilities and human suffering while having no effect on the eventual outcome of the conflict.
[and from another]
Sense of Urgency
https://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue964.htm
Thus the sense of urgency in settling the Ukraine war.  All wars should be in a peace state when the world goes into panic and Martial Law over the presence of Nibiru. Note that Zelensky does not look happy. No more billions for his pocket, no membership in NATO, and no control over the former country of Ukraine either.
[and from another]
Washington Post Reversal
https://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue820.htm
Since the start of the Ukraine war, the western media has been describing this as a Russian invasion and stated that Russia was losing. Facts did not matter. Suddenly on May 27 the key leader in this western media lie did a complete reversal. The Ukraine has been losing. Was the Ukraine unable to convince NATO to join the fight? The US had openly refused.  Ukraine is technically part of Russia, so this was technically a police action, per Ben Fulford. Ukraine has been a money laundering hub and ground zero for Moloch worship, thus important for the Satanists. But why did the Washington Post reverse their stance?
[and from another]
Frame Russia
https://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue807.htm
Beyond the evidence that the European elite were planning an assault on Russia via the Ukraine in March and shot down MH17 with a fighter jet from Kiev in the past while trying to blame Russia, we have a recent drone incident to show the Cabal's maneuvers in attempting to frame Russia.

SOZT
Frustrated by the struggle to get both Kiev and Moscow to agree to a cease fire, President Trump is forcing the end of the conflict. Ukraine is rightfully Russian territory,
https://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31mr2025.htm
and a referendum run by Russia shows the people there consider themselves Russian. Russia was asked to intervene in Ukraine as Russian speaking citizens were being systematically murdered. In the resulting battle Russia has regained this territory, but Zelensky does not want the gravy train to stop and continues to demand money and weapons from the US.

Thus President Trump has chosen sides to end the conflict. At the start of the conflict Medvedev predicted
https://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31mr2025.htm
that all but Kiev would return to Russia, and this prediction is systematically proving true. President Trump is under pressure to resolve all war zones on the planet soon because the Nibiru admission cannot wait. Nibiru has been announcing itself via Skyfire and heavy debris. And now NATO’s intention
https://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31mr2021.htm
to invade Russia for its oil and gas fields via Ukraine is no longer a threat. There will be peace.
EOZT

Prior 3/1/2025 ZT: 
https://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31mr2025.htm
Ukraine was never declared a country when it separated from Russia so this war could be called a police action. In addition, Kiev was murdering Russian speaking citizens and Putin was requested to put a stop to this by the Ukraine leadership in those regions. And finally a NATO plan to push into Russia to gain control of Russian oil and gas fields was confirmed by a leaked NATO memo. Medvedev has predicted that the end of the Ukraine war will show only Kiev to be under Ukraine authority, and we the Zetas confirm this prediction. The remainder will return to Russia, as the Crimea has. President Trump is urgently trying to settle the war due to the pending awakening of the world’s people to the presence of Nibiru. But reluctant to stop the gravy train Zelensky intended to push for US involvement in his war, and Trump exposed this agenda. What now? Russia will be declared the winner of Ukraine territory already gained, but will stop short of Kiev.  

Prior 3/31/2021 ZT: 
https://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31mr2021.htm
NATO is desperate to entice the US into a war with Russia that will give the European elite conquest of Russian oil and gas fields. As proof that the aggression does not come from Russia but from NATO, the Russians produced a set of documents secured in Donbass showing plans to invade Russia. Thus the Russian "invasion" was to pre-empt this push into Russian territory.

Prior 11/18/2024 ZT: 
https://www.zetatalk.com/ning/30no2024.htm
The Kursk Oblast of Russia was invaded by Ukraine several months ago where fighting continues as Russia is being assisted by N Korean soldiers and weaponry and Ukraine is losing badly. Meanwhile, Russia lost no ground elsewhere in their battle with the Ukraine and Zelensky’s supporters in NATO feared a complete rout such that only Kiev would be left of the Ukraine. This will indeed be the outcome. President Trump will get a ceasefire between Russia and Kiev soon, and all the historical criminal activity in Ukraine will stop. No more money laundering, organ harvesting, bio labs using captives, or child sex trafficking. The approval by Biden to use long-range US missiles is a limited approval, only for the Kursk Oblast. NATO has already supplied such missiles to Zelensky, but this has not turned the battles in Kursk to Zelensky’s favor. Biden’s move is only a face-saving gesture.

[Shanyn Carey Gene Wolfe]

I am a Las Vegas born native. I lived in Las Vegas from 1980-2020 and never have I ever seen or heard of monsoons like this, or damage from weather like this. Monsoons in Las Vegas cause flash flooding, it's a valley....but nothing like July 1st, 2025. Would the Zetas please explain the cause of the sudden windstorm that was powerful enough to pull trees out of the ground and topple power poles? Thank you

https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/weather/severe-thunderstorm-war...

[Nancy Lieder]

Tornadoes rip trees out of the ground and topple poles. It may be new to you but the Severe Wobble has been creating mega storms for over a decade. The ZetaTalk website has plenty of examples and pertinent ZetaTalk. Please learn to use the dedicated search engine on the site. 

2012 http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue319.htm

2013 http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue375.htm

2017 http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue573.htm

2022 http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue796.htm

Shanyn Carey Gene Wolfe said:

Would the Zetas please explain the cause of the sudden windstorm that was powerful enough to pull trees out of the ground and topple power poles?

[Nancy Lieder]

Live Updates: Dozens Dead in Texas Floods, with 27 Still Missing from Summer Camp
July 5, 2025
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/texas-floods-live-up...
Catastrophic flooding struck central Texas yesterday, causing the Guadalupe River near Kerrville to surge by more than 20-26 feet within 90 minutes, leading to widespread damage and road washouts.
[and from another]
Kerrville Known as "Flash Flood Alley" for Years before Deadly Tragedy, Local Meteorologist tells CNN
July 6, 2025
https://www.cnn.com/weather/live-news/texas-flooding-camp-mystic-07...
Areas around the Guadalupe River have long been hazardous for flash flooding, owing to the rugged terrain and the river’s non-absorbent limestone bed, a local meteorologist based in Kerrville, Texas, told CNN. “This is a historically flood-prone region … this is ‘flash flood alley,’ and in the National Weather Service has appropriately so named this region as a flood-prone area for many, many years,” said meteorologist Cary Burgess. Speaking with CNN’s Brian Abel, Burgess noted how the massive flooding in Texas Hill Country has been especially devastating in Kerrville, with “more fatalities than we’ve ever had before in these flooding events.”
[and from another]
Severe Wobble Implications
September 4, 2016
https://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue518.htm
And where is that water to go, sloshing in from the Atlantic, when it arrives at Finland? It would bore inland, as it has nowhere else to go. Tidal bore is water on the move as the pressure behind it is unrelenting, as the Zetas explained at the start of the ZetaTalk saga. During the Pole Shift tides, or tides accompanying a severe wobble, tidal bore should be expected.
[and from another]
7 Steps Examples
October 11, 2015
https://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue471.htm
In the Safe Locations pages, the Zetas stress tidal bore up to 3,000 feet as Guadalajara’s greatest worry during the Pole Shift. Tidal bore can and does climb 3,000 feet when the pressure is sufficient. This will be Guadalajara’s horror for the unprepared. The Zetas have advised that the flood tide during the hour of the pole shift will be up to be 500 foot, with an additional 100 foot in height where tidal bore is expected due to the shape of the land. One must be 100 miles inland and 200 feet up for a 500-600 foot high tide.

SOZT
Early in the ZetaTalk Saga
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/23oc2010.htm
we explicitly lectured on the danger of tidal bore,
https://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p109.htm
where water on the move will climb to an astonishing degree when it has nowhere else to go to escape the water pressure driving it. This is true along coastlines dealing with a tsunami rush
https://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx223.htm
such as the 2004 Aceh tsunami or inland along ravines
https://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p109.htm
such as occurred during Hurricane Helene in N Carolina in 2024. When the terrain encapsulates a rush of water so it has only one way to go, tidal bore can and does occur.

Due to the Daily Earth Wobble increasing in its scope and violence, tidal bore dangers are on the increase. Tornadoes and hurricane force winds are now occurring in places never before experiencing them. Kerrville had more rain than forecast, as the weathermen have not adapted to forecasting during a wobble. Assume the worst and put safety as the first priority. Beaches may be idyllic and water sports part of vacation fun, but the times are changing.
EOZT

Prior 2010 ZT:
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/23oc2010.htm
There are spots on the globe known for enormous waves, often a surfer's delight. A tidal bore is not a wave, although such spots that feature large waves have compressed the area available to the incoming waves somewhat in order for the waves to increase in size. Tidal bore occurs where the rate of compression is sudden, so that no distribution of the incoming tide to the side can occur. Normally, the term is used for a high tide rolling inland along a river, so that a wave perhaps 20 feet high is rolling up the river. But when we refer to a tidal bore during the hour of the pole shift or during large tsunami, where the tide will be from 100 to 600 feet high, the bore rises dramatically. This is normally up along a ravine, with steep sides to retain the water, no escape. A 600-foot tide, so compressed, can rise several thousand feet. The water is stacked upon itself. It cannot go backward, so must go forward. It cannot spread to the side, so must rise. Would the result be an exploding wave at the top as appears in this photo? Yes, because the water in a bore is on the move and under great pressure. It does not rise into a gentle lapping pool. It explodes.

Prior 2010 ZT:
https://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx223.htm
Our general advice to be 100 miles inland and 200 feet above sea level does not apply in areas destined to experience tidal bore. Tidal bore, for those who have witnessed it, does not act as water is expected to act, as the water will climb when it has nowhere else to go, to release the pressure behind it. Water on the move likewise keeps moving, even above the pull of gravity. What this means is that those seeking shelter from the high winds in ravines will find a roiling wall of water coming up from the coast, which will engulf and drown them. Even the high points close to the coast will find water pouring over them. One must analyze the terrain, finding those high points that will be well enough inland to have the force of the water dissipating, and which have a drainage outlet for the water that does find its way around the high point. In that high winds, to the point of hurricane force, will likewise be experienced during the hour of the shift, those who would survive are advised to plan to be well anchored too.

Prior 6/1/1999 ZT: 
https://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p109.htm
Those who have witnessed tidal bore roaring up a ravine are astonished that water does not seem to respect the relative sea level during those times. What makes the water climb? Water pressure drives water to climb above its level because at the point where the pressure builds, it takes the easiest path. When the force of pressure is extreme, compressing the water at lower levels, the path of least resistance is taken. During a tidal wave, this path is away from the bulk of water. A tidal wave moves inland until one of two situations occurs: the level to which it has climbed is higher than the level elsewhere, and the wave recedes, or the pressure behind the wave decreases.

Where tidal waves meet mountains, this can result in tidal bore up ravines. Where tidal waves flow inland, this results in a flood tide going hundreds of miles inland. Where the tidal wave finds foothills or barriers, the force of the wave is broken such that it is slowed, allowing a reduction in pressure behind the wave to arrive before the wave moves far inland. But where the tidal wave finds virtually no barriers, due to the land being flat, it becomes water on the move, and this very momentum carries it far inland, and above a height that would otherwise be expected.

[Nancy Lieder]

What happened to Patel and Bondi (or whomever) that caused FBI and DOJ to lie about Epstein. No client list. Suicide in cell. They say they are withholding information to protect the exploited. Maybe Epstein never WROTE down the list. But others (Maxwell) sure did. So they contradict themselves WITHIN their memo.
[and from another]
BREAKING: The DOJ and FBI have Concluded they have No Evidence that Jeffrey Epstein Blackmailed Powerful Figures, kept a Client List
https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message6031934/pg1
[and from another]
https://x.com/alx/status/1942029348875256109
[and from another]
FBI is Demanded to Release HUNDREDS of 'Missing' Jeffrey Epstein Documents including Tapes, CDs, Passports and Pictures Raided from his $51 million NYC Townhouse Amid Suspicions Pedo was Linked to Mossad
January 5, 2024
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12930889/fbi-demanded-rele...
The FBI is facing fresh calls to release hundreds of 'missing' pieces of evidence raided from Jeffrey Epstein's $51 million New York townhouse following the release of a new list of his associates.
Among the items said to be missing are tapes, CDs, passports and pictures all located inside a safe within the property during a siege on the home in July 2019, shortly after Epstein was arrested.
It comes as speculation continues to swirl that Epstein was working as an agent for Israeli intelligence agency Mossad prior to his suicide while awaiting trial for child sex offences. The disclosure fueled speculation that Epstein may have been running a honeypot entrapment operation, gaining valuable 'kompromat' material to blackmail political and business elites. Former Israeli spies have gone on record stating as much and claiming that Epstein was brought into the spy game by Ghislaine Maxwell's father Robert Maxwell, who was also identified as a Mossad agent by Ari Ben-Menashe, who worked worked for Israel 's Military Intelligence Directorate from 1977 to 1987.
[and from another]
Mystery Surrounds the Jeffrey Epstein Files after Bondi Claims ‘Tens of Thousands’ of Videos
July 1, 2025
https://apnews.com/article/justice-department-jeffrey-epstein-pam-b...
Epstein’s crimes, high-profile connections and jailhouse suicide have made the case a magnet for conspiracy theorists and online sleuths seeking proof of a coverup. Elon Musk entered the frenzy during his acrimonious fallout with Trump when he said without evidence in a since-deleted social media post that the reason the Epstein files have yet to be released is that the Republican president is featured in them. During a Fox News Channel interview in February, Bondi suggested an alleged Epstein “client list” was sitting on her desk. The Justice Department after that distributed binders marked “declassified” to far-right influencers at the White House, but it quickly became clear much of the information had long been in the public domain. No “client list” was disclosed, and there’s no evidence such a document exists.
[and from another]
The Veil Drops
January 3, 2016
https://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue483.htm
The veil continued to drop on pedophiles in 2015. From Pope Francis’ steady resolve to prosecute pedophiles in the church, to the continuing patter on forced sex with underage girls by Epstein associates such as Bill Clinton and Prince Andrew, to the rape of young boys by associates of Margaret Thatcher in the UK in the past – investigations were in the news and no longer hush-hush and under wraps.
[and from another]
Pedophile Reveals
January 18, 2025
https://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue433.htm
Pedophilia among high ranking members of the UK government, and in the US at the hands of Herbert Bush and the GOP have long been rumored. The ability to blackmail politicians is the goal. In the UK, pedophilia investigations have been thwarted, files gone missing, and witness testimony ignored. But if the investigation is not in the UK, such as the suit against Epstein in Florida, then the Queen’s reach is thwarted. This seems to be the case for all the allegations against Prince Andrew, the Queen’s son, who has had a long and continuing friendship with the convicted pedophile Epstein. 
[and from another]
Epstein Suicides
August 26, 2019
https://zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue673.htm
On July 24 Epstein was found in a fetal position in his cell, blue in the face and with marks on his neck. He was put on a suicide watch, but on August 10 he was removed from his cell on a gurney, supposedly dead from a successful suicide attempt. Per the Zetas, Epstein’s injuries on July 24 were due to a murder attempt and he was not killed on August 10 but was instead taken into protective custody. Are there Epstein clients that want him silenced? Countless high profile individuals, yes. The Zetas, as usual, explain.

SOZT

The hope that Bondi and Patel and President Trump would release the long-awaited details on the Epstein client list were suddenly dashed with a DOJ memo denying that the Epstein client list exists. The public has seen flight logs and photos of clients such as Prince Andrew and Bill Clinton with Maxwell, but evidence of sexual activity with young children is lacking. Sealed court records to protect young children or honor plea deals with investigators is part of the reason, but the missing piece is White Mail. Black Mail is using material to coerce another against their will to commit crimes. White Mail is using material to force another to do the right thing. Israel has long been rumored to use Black Mail to maintain its power base, and the fact that Epstein is Jewish and Maxwell’s father was wired into the Mossad is a significant connection. Epstein worked for Israel. At the current time President Trump is intent on establishing peace throughout the world, and without delay, as Nibiru is intent on announcing itself and will cause panic worldwide once admitted by the establishment. Israel’s war with Gaza must end, and Israel must cooperate with President Trump’s cease fire plans.

EOZT

Prior 7/31/2019 ZT:  https://zetatalk.com/ning/31jy2019.htm We predicted recently that Epstein would be poisoned to silence him. A bribed or distracted guard can easily be arranged, so many could have had access to Epstein. An assassin - an unregistered visitor during off hours - called Epstein over to the bars of his cell, for a clandestine chat. Epstein was grabbed and strangled until he dropped, but the cord not left behind. The intent was to place blame on other prisoners in the cell block. Under suicide watch, Epstein’s cell will be watched more closely, but his life is still in danger.

Prior 7/31/2019 ZT:  https://zetatalk.com/ning/31jy2019.htm President Trump is not a pedophile, nor did he visit Epstein’s “pleasure island”, as Bill Clinton and Prince Andrew repeatedly did, though the Cabal controlled media is attempting to paint a different picture. The Cabal is frantic to hide the relationship between Bill Clinton and Epstein. Their pedophile connections are starting to appear in the press, from the Nxivm prosecution and its relationship to Democrat candidate Gillibrand, whose father was a member of this cult. Torching the evidence on Epstein Island will not suffice. President Trump knew Epstein socially, as they were both billionaires in the social swirl in New York City. But when Trump learned of Epstein’s tendencies he banned him immediately from Mar-a-Lago golf course. Epstein’s Mossad connections are also steadily coming to light, allowing the final phase of the Khazarian demise. Epstein is likely to be poisoned to silence him.

Prior 8/31/2019 ZT:  https://zetatalk.com/ning/31ag2019.htm How is it possible that Epstein, under suicide watch, could commit suicide? This begs the question, is he really dead or has he been taken into protective custody by the Tribunals. Now that the list of names from the unsealed docket from Epstein’s first trial has been published the media feast can begin. Very timely for a false report of an Epstein “suicide” to hit the news, and the media, so well controlled by the Cabal, cannot fail to refer to the list of names. Hollywood, so very liberal and a solid Hillary backer in the past, is well represented. Democratic politicians are likewise prominently featured. Epstein has chosen to sing like a bird rather than be thrown to the machinations of those who want to silence him. Many of the issues before the Tribunals – treason, attempting to remove a duly elected President on false charges, and a lawless FBI and DOJ in collusion with the Obama White House – will link to blackmail via the Epstein network. Israel and the Mossad are likewise linked as an attempt by a foreign government to control the US. As with McCain, Tribunal determinations are not public, except by the disappearance or death of those executed.

[Nancy Lieder]

At Least 15 People Trapped After Tunnel Collapse in Los Angeles – Update: All 31 Workers Rescued Over Night
July 9, 2025
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/07/least-15-people-trapped-af...
As many as 15 tunnel workers have been initially reported isolated by a “collapse” in an (undetermined depth or diameter) industrial tunnel as many as six miles south from the response address, which is the sole tunnel access. The tunnel is part of the $630?million Los Angeles Effluent Outfall Tunnel project, a wastewater management system being constructed by FlatironDragados. It runs roughly 7?miles, measures about 18?feet in diameter, and descends approximately 450?feet underground. Rescue teams noted that the trapped workers are located as much as six miles south of the tunnel’s only access point.
[and from another]
Geology of Mount St. Helens National Volcanic Monument
https://www.usgs.gov/geology-and-ecology-of-national-parks/geology-...
Mount St. Helens is a stratovolcano, a steep-sided volcano located in the Pacific Northwest region of the United States in the state of Washington.
[and from another]
Mount St. Helens: Cascades' Restless Giant
May 16, 2025
https://www.axios.com/local/seattle/2025/05/16/1980-mount-st-helens...
45 years ago on Sunday, Mount St. Helens erupted, killing 57 people and triggering one of the largest landslides ever recorded, according to the U.S. Geological Survey. Mount St. Helens is not just history; it remains the most active volcano in the Cascades.
[and from another]
Colorado River Red
https://x.com/ZT_Followers/status/1943664791501066556
The Colorado River in Eagle County has turned blood red due to mudslides and heavy rain that swept red mud and trees from the hillside into the river. The striking color is caused by iron oxide in the surrounding rocks.
[and from another]
https://zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue868.htm
A Las Vegas UFO filmed on April 25 of this year is another reminder that the Hoover Dam will not survive the New Madrid Rupture that is pending. 

SOZT
The collapse of the LA waste water management tunnel is an indication that the slip-slide of the San Andreas has begun. We predicted at the start of the ZetaTalk Saga
http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx359.htm
in 2007 that there would be a West Coast reaction to the New Madrid Adjustment. This includes earthquakes and volcanic eruptions and the failure of the Hoover Dam
https://zetatalk.com/info/tinfx391.htm
as we predict its spillways will jam.
https://zetatalk.com/ning/28fe2023.htm
The headwaters of the Colorado River have now turned blood red due to the ripping rock strata there, all signs that the New Madrid Adjustment is reaching the West Coast.
EOZT

Prior 2007 ZT:
https://zetatalk.com/info/tinfx359.htm
The New Madrid adjustment will affect so much area, in a domino manner, that it will not be a single large quake, but a series, separated by weeks and months. The primary adjustment will be within days, after shocks for weeks, but months later still, adjustments. Then, as we have explained, there will be a bow from San Diego out to Arizona, which will rupture the great dam on the Colorado. When this bow, which forces Mexico too far to the West for the comfort of the West Coast, adjusts, it will be a slip-slide adjustment of the San Andreas and related fault lines up the coast.

Prior 12/11/2010 ZT:
http://www.zetatalk8.com/info/tinfx359.htm
After the New Madrid adjusts the West Coast adjusts, as we have stated. We have not detailed this, as compared to the New Madrid this is minor. All the fault lines closely watched on the West Coast will adjust, the volcanoes nervously watched will erupt, and certainly the waters off the coast will be choppy if not generating some minor tsunami during the plate adjustments.

Prior 7/16/2011 ZT: 
https://zetatalk.com/info/tinfx391.htm
We have stated that the West Coast will adjust shortly after the New Madrid adjusts, in step with the Hoover Dam shattering.

Prior 2/10/2023 ZT: 
https://zetatalk.com/ning/28fe2023.htm
We detailed in 2007 how the city of Phoenix might be flooded via the Gila River connection to the Colorado River if and when the Hoover Dam is breached. We stated in 2012 that the Hoover Dam is vulnerable after the New Madrid Rupture occurs and the Mainland to the west of New Madrid adjusts. Hoover Dam itself is solid but the water of Lake Mead can force around the sides, emptying the water in a flood down the Colorado. This UFO display is a reminder of earlier warnings given to Phoenix, as the time of the New Madrid Rupture is at hand.

[Nancy Lieder]

WH Rips Reports Patel, Bongino May Quit If Bondi Stays AG
July 12, 2015
https://www.newsmax.com/politics/kash-patel-dan-bongino-fbi/2025/07...
The White House slammed "baseless" reports Friday that FBI Director Kash Patel and Deputy Director Dan Bongino are weighing resignation if Attorney General Pam Bondi keeps her job as the fallout grows from a memo that determined Jeffrey Epstein was not murdered and did not have a client list or blackmail powerful people. Bongino has told people he is thinking about stepping down amid a major clash between the FBI and the Department of Justice over the memo, CNN reported Friday, citing sources familiar with the matter. The Daily Wire, citing a source close to Bongino, also reported Friday that Bongino is threatening to leave the bureau if Bondi remains on the job. A source close to the DOJ told The Daily Wire that Patel also wanted Bondi gone and that he would consider leaving if Bongino departed.
[and from another]
FBI's Dan Bongino thinking of resigning after clash with AG Pam Bondi over Epstein files fallout: Source
July 12, 2015
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fbis-dan-bongino-ag-bondi-clash-ov...
FBI deputy director Dan Bongino is considering resigning over the Justice Department's handling of the Jeffrey Epstein files, a source told Fox News Digital, noting that Bongino took a day off from work on Friday due to his frustrations.
[and from another]
Inside Dan Bongino's Tense Meeting with White House Officials over Jeffrey Epstein Fallout
July 12, 2025
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/inside-dan-bonginos-tense-meeting-...
Bongino repeatedly raised alarm over Epstein’s "client list," saying "there’s a reason they’re hiding it" and that its release would "rock the political world." The DOJ and FBI said in their memo that much of the nonpublic information related to Epstein's case is under court-ordered seals or contains child pornography and private information about victims.
[and from another]
FBI Director Kash Patel ALSO Considering Resigning If Pam Bondi Keeps Her Job
July 12, 2025
https://www.mediaite.com/politics/just-in-fbi-director-kash-patel-a...
Patel has joined Bongino in his stand against Bondi.
“Source close to DOJ says Kash Patel also wants Pam Bondi gone, and that he’d consider leaving if Bongino leaves,” Olohan said. “Also that there are more frustrations with other documents Bondi hasn’t released.”

SOZT
Imagine being in President Trump’s shoes re the pending Nibiru admissions. Many parties are clamoring for more delays, as long as possible. Key among these are the banking industry who live off Mortgage and Loan interest. Of course mortgage holders and creditors along coastline and river bottoms will stop payments immediately while they run for the hills to avoid tidal sloshing, and this will result in the banking system collapsing. Then there is the panic that will spring forth, bringing the need for Martial Law everywhere to prevent riots and looting. Strong and trusted leadership will be needed.

As we have mentioned, Epstein worked for Israel, and there is a reason Israel gathered compelling blackmail on politicians and influencers worldwide. They want the largess from bank creditors paying interest to the Rothschild banks to last as long as possible. Fingers are being pointed at Bondi over the Epstein list denial, as the Memo denying Epstein kept a list was issued under her name. In fact, literally her Memo was true, as it was the Mossad and Israel leadership that kept the list and evidence. But all deflections aside, the Epstein list and evidence would shatter the leadership of the world, just when strong leadership is needed.

President Trump knows the public will be angry and feel they have been lied to. To minimize the damage, he and Musk have arranged to create a Third Party, as it would be difficult to get 2 out of 3 parties to replace the current GOP leadership in place now. In trying to settle all wars worldwide so that Martial Law does not be overwhelmed, he has arranged with his Cabinet to take the blame in good cop/bad cop situations. Hegseth took the blame for denying weapons to Zelensky so Russia can be the decisive winner there, and Bondi took the blame for denying the existence of an Epstein List. In using the list as White Mail President Trump also gets Israel’s cooperation.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

What do you think about the recent drawing in England? If it is legitimate, what message does it carry?
[and from another]
https://cropcircleconnector.com/2025/beech/beech2025a.html
Beech Clump, Nr Ludwell, Wiltshire. Reported 12th July, Map Ref: ST9208620936

SOZT
With the Epstein evidence showing that Israel used BlackMail to force their control of the world, Israel is braced for a back lash. This legitimate Crop Circle design is not speaking to the issue of the return of Jesus, but rather to the decline of Israel. The 5 pointed star in the center is, as everyone knows, the Jewish star. Thus Israel will be eclipsed from all sides. 
EOZT

[Howard Boldt]

Hadn't heard of the 5 pointed star being Jewish. Took some searching to find a source that said it did represent the 5 books of the Torah in ancient times. But mainly the 6 pointed star, the Star of David, symbolizes Jews, Judaism and Israel, no?

[Nancy Lieder]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagram

Also associated with Satanism and Wica, but in particular Satanism, 

"The inverted pentagram is broadly used in Satanism, sometimes depicted with the goat's head of Baphomet, as popularized by the Church of Satan since 1968. LaVeyan Satanists pair the goat head with Hebrew letters at the five points of the pentagram to form the Sigil of Baphomet. The Baphomet sigil was adapted for the Joy of Satan Ministries logo, using cuneiform characters at the five points of the pentagram, reflecting the shape's earliest use in Sumeria. The inverted pentagram also appears in The Satanic Temple logo, with an alternative depiction of Baphomet's head. Other depictions of the Satanic goat's head resemble the inverted pentagram without its explicit outline."

"From around 300–150 BCE the pentagram stood as the symbol of Jerusalem, marked by the 5 Hebrew letters ירשלם spelling its name.^{[13]" ... "Because of a perceived association with Satanism and occultism, many United States schools in the late 1990s sought to prevent students from displaying the pentagram on clothing or jewelry.[44] "} 

Howard Boldt said:

Hadn't heard of the 5 pointed star being Jewish. Took some searching to find a source that said it did represent the 5 books of the Torah in ancient times. But mainly the 6 pointed star, the Star of David, symbolizes Jews, Judaism and Israel, no?

[Howard Boldt]

Okay, got it, thanks. A reference to the dark side of Israel.