ZetaTalk Chat for May 31, 2025

[Nancy Lieder]

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Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 78 years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

[Nancy Lieder]

Today I note that in the N Atlantic H pressure areas swirl in Clockwise (retrograde) direction but L pressure areas swirl the other way, Counterclockwise. Why the diff? The S Atlantic is reverse of the N Atlantic, with the H pressure areas swirling in a Counterclockwise direction but the L pressure area swirling in a Clockwise direction. Checking the Pacific I find the S Pacific and Indian Ocean swirling as the S Atlantic did, and the N Pacific near Japan reflecting the swirl direction of the N Atlantic.

SOZT
Are the direction of swirl in High or Low Air Pressure Fronts in the atmosphere related to the Coriolis Effect? The Coriolis Effect results as the globe turns, such that the Equator moves fastest and air rolling away from this fast-moving edge rolls either North or South to equalize the Air Pressure. Thus to the North of the Equator the atmosphere curls Clockwise but to the South of the Equator it curls Counterclockwise. High Pressure Fronts align with this, as High Pressure is packed with air wanting to dissipate, being pushed along by the rotation of the Earth.

But why would Low Pressure Fonts curl in the opposite direction? While the Coriolis Effect dominates, pushing the bulk of the air from the Equator, there is a spinoff into the void left as this bulk of High Pressure Air moves along. How is it that High and Low Air Pressure Fronts linger rather than quickly dissipate? There are a thousand connections, attractions and snag points, that exist.  And thus hugging itself, the High Pressure Front is forced as a bulk by the rotation of the Earth, but those parts of the Atmosphere on the periphery are pulled into the void to ultimately form Low Pressure Fronts.
EOZT

Prior 2/20/2007 ZT:
https://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta351.htm
Combined with the Coriolis effect, this creates swirls, drawing the cold air from the Arctic down into the center, thus the hurricane formation. Will this type of extreme weather continue? Certainly, but other forms of extremes will show up too. We have warmed that the seasons will blend into one another, that hurricanes and tornadoes will appear where unexpected, and that swings from drought to deluge will continue, all in an unpredictable manner. We have warned of this since 1995, from the start of ZetaTalk, when it came under much ridicule. Are the debunker claims, that the weather is normal, still being made now?

Prior Jet Stream 7/23/2011 ZT:
https://www.zetatalk.com/ning/23jy2011.htm
The jet streams will reform over the Earth after the pole shift, as might be expected moving from the new west to the new east, and dipping or twisting where strong differences in temperature exist beneath them. Warm air is frequently lighter as the molecules bump around, excited by the heat. But high and low air pressure differences exist even outside of temperature differences. All this affects the movement of the jet streams, which reflect but do not create air movement. Jet streams are a symptom of the overall atmospheric movement, not a driving force.

[Nancy Lieder]

What about live organisms raining down on Earth from Nibiru's tail? Microbes survive in space and Nibiru is hosing us with organic matter. Now organic life raining down from space. 
[and from another]
https://x.com/HealthRanger/status/1923059876911038666
Stunning new video microscopy footage of the @RealDrJaneRuby chemtrails fallout sample, now THRIVING WITH LIFE after a few weeks of incubation at human body temperature, with saline solution. We've seen at least six different types of living organisms now, maybe more. Despite the early trolls saying "nothing is alive, it's all just dust particles." Clearly, this is teeming with life:
[and from another]
Red Rain Microbes https://www.zetatalk.com/index/blog0531.htm
On Jan 6, 2006 the Zetas stated that cell like structures in red rain that had fallen on India
after a meteor disintegrated were a precursor to life - the cell which forms prior to DNA setting up housekeeping inside the Cell. At that time, on Jan 6, 2006 news reports were skeptical that this was life in any form, despite the similarity to cellular structure on Earth. By March 8, 2006, confirmation from British scientists had come in that the cells appear to be of extraterrestrial origin.
[and from another]
Skepticism Greets Claim of Possible Alien Microbes
Jan 5, 2006
http://www.world-science.net/exclusives/060104_specksfrm.htm
A paper to appear in a scientific journal claims a strange red rain might have dumped microbes from space onto Earth four years ago. At least 50,000 kg (55 tons) of the particles have fallen in all. People on the streets found their cloths stained by red raindrops. In a few places the concentration of particles were so great that the rainwater appeared almost like blood. The particles look like one-celled organisms and are about 4 to 10 thousandths of a millimeter wide, somewhat larger than typical bacteria. The particles seem to lack a nucleus, the core DNA-containing compartment that animal and plant cells have. Chemical tests indicated they also lacked DNA, the gene-carrying molecule that most types of cells contain.
The outer envelope seems to contain an inner capsule, which in some places appears to be detached from the outer wall to form an empty region inside the cell. Further, there appears to be a faintly visible mucus layer present on the outer side of the cell. The major constituents of the red particles are carbon and oxygen. Carbon is the key component of life on Earth. Silicon is most prominent among the minor constituents of the particles; other elements found were iron, sodium, aluminum and chlorine. The red rain phenomenon first started in Kerala after a meteor airburst event, which occurred on 25th July 2001. Alive or dead, the particles have some staying power, if the paper is correct. Even after storage in the original rainwater at room temperature without any preservative for about four years, no decay or discolouration of the particles could be found.
[and from another]
Red rain from Another Planet?
March 08, 2006
http://in.rediff.com/news/2006/mar/08gspec.htm
On July 25, 2001, blood-red rain fell over Kerala. The unusual phenomenon continued for two months, raining crimson, turning clothes pink, burning leaves on trees. In some places, the rain fell in scarlet sheets. Scientists were shocked, and the government ordered an investigation. Scientists concluded that the rain was red because winds had swept up dust from Arabia and dumped it on Kerala. But Dr Godfrey Louis, a Reader in Physics at the School of Pure and Applied Physics at the Mahatma Gandhi University in Kottayam, Kerala, was not convinced. He diligently gathered rain samples and, after months of painstaking research, concluded: 'The red particles, which caused the red rain of Kerala, are of extraterrestrial origin.' His colleagues -- other scientists and physicists -- frowned at the conclusion. But Dr Louis stuck to his theory. His scientific conclusions have now received international support. Dr Milton Wainwright of the micro-biology Department at Sheffield University in Britain has been examining some of the particles of the red rain samples that hit Kerala.

SOZT
It is not that Chemtrails have life precursors included in the chemical mess fogging up the view of Nibiru, it is that these life form precursors are present in the atmosphere due to being carried there via the vast tail of Nibiru. In 2006 Red Rain
https://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta257.htm
fell in Kerala, India and was closely examined by scientists in Kerala and Britain. The conclusion was that the cell structures in this rain were extraterrestrial. That the rain was Red Rain ties it to Nibiru’s arrival just 3 years earlier in 2003. Red iron oxide dust, magnetically charged, is gathered from the Asteroid Belt when Nibiru and its entourage come through every 3,600 years.

Now some identical structures such as empty cell casings are seen in microscopic examination of Chemtrail rain. The Chemtrail rain also is filled with small white dots that chase and cluster with each other, even forming a String of Pearls arrangement. This is not life but the attraction phenomena so often seen in God’s Universe where like particles want to cluster but also are repulsed if too crowded, thus perpetually dance. Thus they seem to be alive. That this dance emerges only after weeks of incubation shows that they have been dormant, waiting for some nutrient or environment before attempting replication.

As with the Kerala Red Rain, these pre-life components cannot and would not emerge as new life forms but would decompose. They are rather food for the life forms of Earth. When seeds sprout on Earth, the leaves reach for the Sunlight, instinctively and guided by their chemistry and the dictates of their DNA. The pre-life found in the Chemtrail particles do not have DNA and cannot thus thrive and become a life form on Earth. The Chemtrail discovery will be blamed on the Chemtrail agenda, but in that it is caused by Nibiru components it is only proof of the Nibiru Coverup.
EOZT

Prior 1/6/2006 ZT:
https://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta257.htm
DNA supports the ability of life to replicate itself and carry forward the dictates of biological function. Since man comes late to examining his own beginnings, he cannot determine if DNA arrived before the cell, or the cell was in place before the DNA. The assumption is that DNA came first, links forming in some kind of primordial soup, and the cell developed later as a protective device. Now, they know otherwise. The cell body does not dissipate without DNA, as human scientists know. It feeds, and continues. The evidence dropped to Earth was encased in an asteroid chunk that protected the molecular composition of these cells from the formerly life bearing planets in the Asteroid Belt. They thus had no reason to die. But as the shape clearly presents, this was a stage of life prior to DNA insertion, the next stage.

[Nancy Lieder]

Crop circle season and 2 so far this year. The first one at the bottom of the page is rather plain. Dated 11th April 2025. 2nd was 15th May 2025 reminds me of the elaborate designs used in ancient texts, you know, the kind monks used to do.
[and from another]
https://www.theirishroadtrip.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/trinity...   
[and from another]
https://www.cropcircleaccess.com/latestcropcircles/  
15th May 2025
Sutton Veny, Warminster, UK 
Crop: barley
Size: diameter approximately 75 meters
Photo by Crop Circles from Above
[and from another]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insular_art
The "Irish insular arc" refers to the distinct artistic style, primarily seen in illuminated manuscripts and other objects, that emerged in Ireland and the British Isles after the Roman period and into the early medieval era. This style, also known as Insular art or Hiberno-Saxon art, is characterized by its dense, intricate decoration, intricate patterns, and fusion of figurative and ornamental elements. 

SOZT
This legitimate Crop Circle design is signaling those who live in former Celtic regions in Europe to expect an expanding impact during the coming Plate Movements. If the ancient Insular Art symbol had 3 interlocking spikes, the coming changes would have 4. The parts of Europe to be affected by the New Madrid Fault Line Rupture and collateral Eurasian Plate expansion to the East include the UK islands of England, Ireland, and Scotland with the fourth region on the coast of France.
EOZT

[Shaun Kazuck]

Hello:

My question is about the sudden cancer diagnosis in "Biden".  He stated in 2022 he had cancer in what the media said was a gaffe.  Is this just double clean up or is this being used as a pretext to investigate his Presidency?  They admit now, how mentally incompetent he was, if he was also battling aggressive cancer and they wanted him to run again in 2024...  Just hoping the Zetas can shed some light on this without compromising the Junta's plans. 

Thanks!

[Nancy Lieder]

What happened here? The new Alex is a real weirdo, even though the old one was a wild man. Did they remove him for some reason?
[and from another]
I think Alex Jones is the only person who looks worse after losing weight
https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/1htxxjr/i_think_alex_jon...
[and from another]
https://www.instagram.com/thejrecompanion/p/DEzUWR_upGz/?hl=en&...
Alex Jones, the founder of Infowars, has recently undergone a significant weight loss transformation. Reports indicate that he has lost approximately 45 pounds through a combination of dietary changes, regular exercise, and lifestyle adjustments.
[and from another]
Judge blocks Sandy Hook families' settlement in Alex Jones' bankruptcy
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/judge-blocks-sandy-hook-families-s...
Settlement would improperly carve up Infowars assets, judge said. Jones owes $1.3 billion in families' defamation lawsuits. Connecticut and Texas families agreed to 75/25 split of assets. Jones is bankrupt, but his company's bankruptcy ended last year
[and from another]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones
Alexander Emerick Jones (born February 11, 1974) is an American far-right radio show host and prominent conspiracy theorist. He hosts The Alex Jones Show from Austin, Texas. The Alex Jones Show is the longest-running online news and politics talk show; it was previously broadcast[5] by the Genesis Communications Network across the United States via syndicated and internet radio. He is the founder of InfoWars and Banned.Video, websites that promote conspiracy theories and fake news.

SOZT
Those who become Doubles are prominent, troublesome, and in a position to influence society. Alex Jones fit all of those criteria. Many of his “conspiracy theories” had more than a ring of truth and thus he had gained a following. After losing the Sandy Hook verdict and forced into bankruptcy, he became despondent and committed suicide but those wanting to influence public thinking saw an opportunity. The Double in place now is clearly not Jones, as the eyes went from blue to gray and the mouth became at least twice as wide. This Double gambit will not succeed.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

One less Double on the stage?
[and from another]
Top Doctors Stunned Biden's Cancer Diagnosis wasn't Caught Sooner: 'It is Inconceivable'
https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message6000197/pg1
Findings from one 2023 studyTrusted Source estimated that in those with prostate cancer that spreads to the bones: 73 percent have a 1-year survival rate; 33 percent have a 5-year survival rate. The prognosis for prostate cancer with bone metastases depends on several factors. When prostate cancer spreads to the bones, it’s stage 4, an advanced stage. There’s no cure for stage 4 prostate cancer, but treatment can help strengthen weakened bones and alleviate symptoms like bone pain.
[and from another]
https://nypost.com/2025/05/19/us-news/biden-aggressive-prostate-can...
"Several doctors have said it’s “inconceivable” former President Joe Biden’s aggressive form of prostate cancer went undetected by his medical team — as first son Don Trump Jr. even questioned whether the health diagnosis was part of a “cover-up.”
[and from another]
Top Doctors Stunned Biden's Cancer Diagnosis wasn't Caught Sooner: 'It is Inconceivable'
May 19, 2025
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14726001/Biden-cancer-do...
Medical experts have declared it 'inconceivable' that former President Joe Biden's 'aggressive' form of prostate cancer was not caught earlier by doctors. The 82-year-old's office announced the devastating diagnosis on Sunday, saying the cancer had spread to his bones and his family were reviewing treatment options. His cancer was given a Gleason score of 9 and a Grade Group of 5, a dire stage of the rapidly-spreading disease. The diagnosis came days after doctors found a 'small nodule' on his prostate. 
[and from another]
https://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue914.htm
Biden is a Double under the control of the Junta, and thus his “mistakes” are often deliberate. 
[and from another]
https://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue768.htm
A common phrase in military terminology is the two-front war – to be avoided. The US Junta under President Trump did not intend to fight a war on more than one front, but they had no choice. Soros money delivered the Antifa war to the US, and the CCP desire to nab the US and Canadian bread basket food supply brought the CCP war to the US, and the Moloch child sacrifice battle with the Satanists inevitably brought this war to the US home front which was leading the charge. And while cleaning up the Deep State treason at Gitmo the Junta encountered a massive 2020 election fraud. How many fronts is that? I count five.

SOZT
Ex-President Biden is currently a Double and as we explained years ago had been a Double
https://www.zetatalk.com/ning/30ju2020.htm
for some time. He went from being a Black Hat Double under the control of Obama and his handlers to being a White Hat Double during the 2020 campaign under the control of the Junta. At that time the Junta had much on their plate
https://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue768.htm
with the China CCP coming over the border from Canada, so in agreement with President Trump they delayed challenging the 2020 election results and focused on 2024.

As President Trump said at that time, “Stay with me Deplorables you will love the way this Movie ends”.
Doubles Management has been in process on many fronts, to avoid civil war while the these matters are put right. Maintaining a Double requires a team, and the worry about exposure of the lie is always present. Now that Biden is no longer in the White House, the Democrat machine has been exposed. There is no point in continuing that line, so instead the Junta is allowing “Biden” to be given some sympathy. The remains of the real Biden are on ice at Gitmo, in case of a DNA challenge.
EOZT

Prior 6/30/2020 ZT: 
https://www.zetatalk.com/ning/30ju2020.htm
Joe Biden was replaced with a Double some years ago, and not by those White Hats maintaining a public impression of normalcy during the Tribunal trials and executions. Obama and his handlers didn’t trust Biden, who was known to have pedophile leanings and thus could be blackmailed. Thus a Double was sought and the real Biden quickly replaced.