ZetaTalk Chat for September 30, 2019

[Nancy Lieder]

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3. The Zetas, as all visitors, are under rules on how they interact with humanity. They are not here to rescue you. They cannot divert Planet X just as today they do not prevent droughts or floods. The Earth is mankind’s schoolhouse whereby he learns to help his fellow man.
4. The date of the pole shift cannot be given, but the sequence of events can be given. [ Link ] Check the ning pinned discussions and blogs for such information as the 7 of 10, the last weeks, etc.

Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 78 years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted

M. Difato said:

Lately the iNtegrated Space Weather Analysis System - iSWA / Nasa Has been down for much of the past week.

Beginning September 13, 2019 following the posting of images in the Magnetosphere Eddy blog some of the ISWA web app went down. This image outage was mainly the Magnetosphere Y-Cut, Z-Cut, Magnetopause and a few other Magnetosphere cygnets, all offline and returned sometime September 18 ~ 20:00 UTC. The ISWA site ran for a short while (hours) then the entire site went down at 21:06 UTC. When the Mag. cygnets returned online 9/18 most of the timestamped images were there to see from the 13-18. Of course there were the usual missing frames during Polarity Increases and Mangled Magnetosphere postures.  In trying to be fairly consistent in viewing the ISWA  Magnetosphere cygnets and readings for the past 2 years. With the ground breaking insights from Howard, and you Nancy and the Zetas, there is plenty to study. I was able to help contribute images for some of the many events, postures and readings of the Magnetosphere of the Earth in response to the Bully Magnet as seen in ISWA. Lately there has been no shortage of events. I would like to add many times this past year I have posted images to ECPS only to see the ISWA Magnetosphere cygnets go down shortly after. Though not surprised it's just solid proof of how much and often they must visit the site daily. Could the Zetas give any insight as to what is currently going on with the ISWA Space Weather Analysis System? To be honest I'm amazed it has lasted this long given how much it has been an asset to counter the "Blaming the Sun" lies put forth for these time. This has been quiet a tool for the common man.
[and from another]
http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/manic-magnetosphere-silent...

SOZT
The cover-up over Nibiru is in full swing, but not all Earth changes can be hidden from the public. Earthquake magnitude and frequency can be hidden when quakes are recorded in the databases with a reduced magnitude, or removed altogether. They are currently being reported -2 magnitudes below their real magnitude. Volcanoes are the exception as their eruptions cannot be hidden from the public, though the compliant and controlled media avoids this subject just as they avoid the increase in bolide traffic.

President Trump’s EO on the US defenses
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue653.htm
and the DARPA testing
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue676.htm
in underground parking lots in DC is the exception, as it is an implicit admission. Nibiru’s influence on the Earth’s magnetic field is such that the field turns into a spaghetti mess with the bow shock facing Nibiru becoming an inflamed red, and the Poles forced into a Dipole Axis lean.
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue538.htm

Magnetic field modeling relies on numerous sources that cannot easily be forged. The government is aware of how much these models are being accessed, and those trying to maintain the cover-up are frantic. The common man does not know how to read the models and graphs, and they had relied upon this. But it does not take a genius or PhD to compare a chart from the past to charts in the present or to compare them to current images of the Sun. Until Nibiru is admitted, expect this data to be increasingly denied.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email: 

Will there be other types of defense partnerships amid countries emerging, as the Pole Shift approaches?
[and from another]
https://citizentruth.org/russia-china-and-central-asian-nations-hol...
Russia, China and Central Asian Nations Hold First Ever Joint Military Exercise
September 19, 2019
The drill, known as “Tsentr-2019,” began in Orenburg, south of the Urals in Russia which is near Kazakhstan. According to UPI, troops from several Central Asian states, India and Pakistan (which have been involved in tensions over the disputed Kashmir region), will train in Astrakhan Oblast, the North Caucasus region of the Russian republic of Dagestan, Chelyabinsk Oblast, the Siberian Altai and Kemerovo. This year’s drill is also noteworthy for the joint participation of Pakistan and India, traditionally bitter rivals who are currently engaged in heightened tensions over the long-standing Kashmir dispute. The joint-exercise aims to boost cooperation to tackle international terrorism and prevent Islamic extremists from entering Russia through Central Asia.
[and from another]
Russia conducts massive military drills with China, sending a message to the West
September 17, 2019
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/17/russia-conducts-tsentr-2019-militar...
Russia is carrying out a series of large-scale military exercises with China, India and Pakistan in what experts believe is Moscow trying to send a powerful message to the West. The military drills take place annually but Russia has upped the ante this year by inviting forces from China, India and Pakistan (as well as Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan) to take part in the drills.
[and from another]
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3029819/china-rus...
China, Russia, Iran ‘plan joint naval drill in international waters’
September 21, 2019
Iranian news outlet quotes military official as saying exercise will be held soon, but Chinese media silent on reported manoeuvres.

SOZT
It should not be surprising that India was welcomed into Russia’s military exercises, given the technology and immigration arrangements Modi and Putin
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue677.htm
recently reached for development of Russia’s Far East. We have often stated that Russia and China have each other’s backs, neither invading the other nor allowing invasion from elsewhere. It should also not be a surprise that the “stan” countries, former Russia satellites, are asked to join. But there is far more to the partnership than merely resisting terrorism, as publicly stated.

What is to be made of the reluctance to invite Iran, an ally of Russia? Iran is dominated by hard line Islamic rulers, and both Russia and China have had problems with some of their Muslim enclaves, such as the Chechen rebels in Russia and the Muslim Uyghurs
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/03de2016.htm
in China’s Xinjiang region. Islam is prone to Jihad and Sharia Law suppression of women. From the Taliban in Afghanistan to the religious leaders in Iran and the wars between the Shia and Sunni in the Middle East, these attitudes are not welcome. India is predominantly Hindu, China Buddhist, and Russia Christian.

What is to be made of the lack of any inclusion of countries in Europe, the Americas, Africa, or Australia? The answer lies in the Aftertime maps we have drawn for the public since the start of the ZetaTalk saga. India is expected to be the new S Pole, but her peoples will be welcomed in Russia’s Far East because of their proven track record on being industrious. We have predicted that Iran and other countries bordering India will freeze, including Indonesia and the southern China provinces. Russia, China, and the “stan” countries thus form a BLOCK, contiguous and cohesive.

N America is presumed to form its own BLOCK with the US and Canada. Due to the expected devastation of Central America and the Caribbean, S America will also form another BLOCK. The remnants of Australia, New Zealand, Japan and Europe will all be island nations. Africa is expected to be invaded by migrants from Europe, which will find its lands flooded, unable to migrate east because of the inland bay driven up through Persia toward the Ural Mountains. This migration will be joined by Muslims wishing to leave the chilly Middle East, and thus Africa will find itself quite diverse and contentious.
EOZT

[Willa Rawlings]

So--- Is this article helping to make headway?

NASA admits that climate change occurs because of changes in Earth’s solar orbit, and NOT because of SUVs and fossil fuels

https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-08-30-nasa-admits-climate-change-n...

That is, until Fb readers look at the Fact-Check articles provided:

https://climatefeedback.org/claimreview/earths-orbit-cannot-explain...
https://hoax-alert.leadstories.com/3470853-fake-news-nasa-not-admit...

[Willa Rawlings]

It's just that this comes off as possibly one step forward, three steps back. With "Fact-Checking" doing Good in one turn, and then Bad or Wrongful in the next?

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted. I had noted those articles too and saved them off for a future Newsletter discussion. Coverup battles, pro and con, apparently. 

Willa Rawlings said:

So--- Is this article helping to make headway?

That is, until Fb readers look at the Fact-Check articles provided. It's just that this comes off as possibly one step forward, three steps back. With "Fact-Checking" doing Good in one turn, and then Bad or Wrongful in the next?
[and from another]
https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-08-30-nasa-admits-climate-change-n...
NASA admits that climate change occurs because of changes in Earth’s solar orbit, and NOT because of SUVs and fossil fuels
August 30, 2019
For more than 60 years, the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) has known that the changes occurring to planetary weather patterns are completely natural and normal. But the space agency, for whatever reason, has chosen to let the man-made global warming hoax persist and spread, to the detriment of human freedom. In the year 2000, NASA did publish information on its Earth Observatory website about the Milankovitch Climate Theory, revealing that the planet is, in fact, changing due to extraneous factors that have absolutely nothing to do with human activity. But, again, this information has yet to go mainstream, some 19 years later.
[and from another]
https://climatefeedback.org/claimreview/earths-orbit-cannot-explain...
[and from another]
https://hoax-alert.leadstories.com/3470853-fake-news-nasa-not-admit...
[and from another]
https://www.breitbart.com/environment/2019/09/20/nolte-climate-expe...
Nolte: Climate ‘Experts’ Are 0-41 with Their Doomsday Predictions
September 20, 2019
For more than 50 years Climate Alarmists in the scientific community and environmental movement have not gotten even one prediction correct, but they do have a perfect record of getting 41 predictions wrong.  If we don’t immediately convert to socialism and allow Alexandria Ocasio-Crazy to control and organize our lives, the planet will become uninhabitable. Why would any sane person listen to someone with a 0-41 record?
1970: Ice Age By 2000
1974: Space Satellites Show New Ice Age Coming Fast
1976: Scientific Consensus Planet Cooling, Famines imminent
1978: No End in Sight to 30-Year Cooling Trend
1988: Temperatures in DC Will Hit Record Highs
2002: Famine In 10 Years If We Don’t Give Up Eating Fish, Meat, and Dairy
2008: Climate Genius Al Gore Predicts Ice-Free Arctic by 2013
2009: Climate Genius Prince Charles Says we Have 96 Months to Save World
[and from another]
https://www.crowdcast.io/e/climatecall/register
Climate change is a dire crisis that demands urgent, large-scale collective action at the community, state, regional, national, and global levels. We are seeing a movement emerge that is growing in political strength—forcing political leaders and candidates to talk in-depth about climate justice in ways they haven't before and forcing local governments, institutions, and corporations to act.

SOZT
Per Breitbart, in the past 50 years, climate doomsday predictions went from doom due to an Ice Age in 1970 to doom due to Al Gore’s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore
Global Warming in 2006. Neither rationale had a basis, but both had an agenda. Global Warming has been proven to be a hoax
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue542.htm
so the terminology has been changed to Climate Change, which certainly is in process. Climate Change is not man-made, but it is instead Nibiru-made, and therein lies the hysteria. In 1970 the establishment anticipated the approach of Nibiru to create a Volcanic Winter, thus Ice Age predictions. But by 2006, after its arrival in 2003, they found the opposite, thus the change to Global Warming predictions.

NASA is attempting to insert logic into the argument, asserting that the tilt of the Earth is responsible, which is of course true in that the Daily Earth Wobble tilts the globe in different directions, thereby roiling the atmosphere and ocean tides. NASA is attempting to gradually admit that Nibiru exists. But those in charge of the cover-up over Nibiru countered by mustering forth the children of the world to march in the streets. None of this will go away, even with official admissions that Nibiru is real and approaching for a passage.

We have stated that even when Nibiru is officially admitted, an estimated 50% of mankind will refuse to believe it. This has nothing to do with IQ or education level, it has to do with courage at the soul level, soul knowledge that reincarnation exists so the current life is not the last, a spiritual orientation to help others, and a determination thus to deal with the facts and plan a course of action. Since the vast majority of humans on Earth do not have sparked souls, and the vast majority that do are immature and undecided, hysteria results.
EOZT

[J Ph]

Hi Nancy,

As per the Zetas, Biden is highly STO.
What is the deal with the corruption allegation scandals with Ukraine and China? Thanks!

[Nancy Lieder]

STO souls are not perfect. Even in 4th density or higher, they can have soul flaws. Biden lost one son to cancer, and threw himself behind Hunter, who had drug addiction problems. In a word, he was spoiling his remaining son. Question declined as not the cutting edge issue here. 

http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta495.htm

It is not true that those incarnated in 4th Density are not challenged. We have explained that those in 4th Density carry a lot of baggage. Some are vain, some hoard as they have in past lives been without. Some avoid pain. Some have egos and are sensitive to criticism. Some carry guilt over situations that were out of their control, and are constantly seeking to assuage their guilt. 4th Density in fact has been described by us as a very long stage, because all this takes much time to work out.

Joseph said:

As per the Zetas, Biden is highly STO.

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email: 

Let's see if I got this right.   Nancy Pelosi has never wanted to pursue impeachment of Trump and still doesn't.   She views impeachment as another form of extremism and so it's to be avoided, except in exceptional cases.   It is normally counter-productive to her goal of returning the Dems to more moderate ground.   However, she's given in to the constant pressure and allowed an impeachment inquiry at this time, knowing it's bound to fizzle, as Trump is unlikely to have made a mistake in his communications with Ukraine, and the whole thing will likely only work to destroy Joe Biden.   Thus, Pelosi will have appeased the impeachment hounds, who will be silenced by the results, and so the cause of Democrat moderates will be furthered.   Back to business.   No more impeachment talk, no more Squad agenda, no more extremism of any type, she hopes.   Perhaps she also doesn't want Joe Biden as the Democrat nominee, so another bird killed with the same stone.   Trump, the master chess player, knows all this and is happy about the probable end results.   Am I close?
[and from another]
https://globalnews.ca/news/5944945/pelosi-trump-impeach-ukraine/
Pelosi announces Trump impeachment probe, saying ‘no one is above the law’
September 24, 2019
Democrats have questioned whether Trump improperly used his office to pressure the Ukrainian president to investigate political rival Joe Biden's family.
[and from another]
https://nypost.com/2019/09/24/goodwin-pelosis-impeachment-flip-flop...
Goodwin: Pelosi’s impeachment flip-flop changes everything
September 24, 2019
There is a next-to-zero chance the GOP controlled Senate would convict the president. Pelosi stopped short of creating a select panel and reportedly has no plans to call for a formal House vote. Reports that the so-called whistleblower had no direct access to the call raises questions of credibility. Ironically, a full examination of the facts could make Biden the first casualty of the impeachment jihad. He is already a weak front-runner and even if he did nothing legally wrong in dealing with Ukraine, the fact that his son was enriching himself by free-riding on the coattails of his father’s job won’t sit well with progressive voters.
[and from another]
https://www.bitchute.com/video/ePXQdRVgFRZx/
The Ingraham Angle 9/24/19 | Fox News Live Stream Today September 24, 2019
[and from another]
https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message4148528/pg1
This was a “Trump Trap” which was a specifically created story fiction, leaked to the leftist media, and designed to suck them into a make believe world of Trump wrongdoing. Once sucked in, the media exposure will have it explode to full force exposing their lies and hypocrisy, and in this case see them having to actually report on the same Biden Family crimes, and other Deep State crimes they’ve kept hidden from the American people.
[and from another]
https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message4148593/pg1
The President's attorneys will have the right to subpoena and question anyone they want! That is different than the special counsel investigation, which was very one-sided. So, during the impeachment trial, we will be hearing testimony from James Comey, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Bruce Ohr, Glenn Simpson, Donna Brazille, Eric Holder, Loretta Lynch, Christopher Steele, Hillary Clinton, John Brennan, James Clapper, and a whole host of other participants in this whole sordid affair and the ensuing coverup activities. 

SOZT
Was the whole Ukraine issue a trap set by President Trump? This is obvious to many, who see that during any impeachment investigation the Republicans will be able to subpoena and release material related to 2016 crimes by the DNC and Obama administration but also by Biden in the past. This coincides with the pending timing of the release of FISA documents. President Trump of course would never be formally impeached because this would not get the votes in the Senate. Even if the House does not formally impeach, Biden’s past will be forced into the media.

This was the plan. All that was needed was a catalyst to force these issues into the reluctant media. Pelosi has been sitting on a bomb, fearing the exposure, and now must try to either smother the bomb that just went off or make much of supposed impeachable “crimes”. If the whistleblower was a trap, how was he triggered? He was a known Deep State Trump hater, who was inflamed by reports that others gave him. He has no direct information, just rumors, to report. The transcripts of the Ukraine call will counter these rumors. Meanwhile, Biden will be exposed and the Democrats diminished.
EOZT

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted via email: 

Referring to Ezekiel’s Wheel in the Bible?
[and from another]
Massive "Wheel in the Sky" 
September 27, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAvZ0ztqCOk
Ezekiel’s Wheel … I've seen those "wheel's in the sky" traveling in serious thunderstorms. They are big. … The wheel within a wheel mentioned in Ezekiel 12 points of light. … I’ve seen that wheel in the sky here in Brooklyn, NY and it wasn’t that long ago. … My mother and everyone at the house saw a wheel in the sky with colored lights they described was just like that one. This was in the mid 70's in suburbs of SoCal during the day. It was so unlike anything they had ever experienced they never got over it. … Saw one of those tilted light rings in the sky over Joshua tree a couple years ago. The size of it was mind boggling. It was different colored lights and not white. … The wheel in the sky has 12 dots, that's pretty interesting, kinda seems like hours of a watch?
[and from another]
Ezekiel 1:14–18
https://biblia.com/bible/esv/Ezek%201.14-18
14 And the living creatures darted to and fro, like the appearance of a flash of lightning. 15 Now as I looked at the living creatures, I saw a wheel on the earth beside the living creatures, one for each of the four of them. 16 As for the appearance of the wheels and their construction: their appearance was like the gleaming of beryl. And the four had the same likeness, their appearance and construction being as it were a wheel within a wheel. 17 When they went, they went in any of their four directions without turning as they went. 18 And their rims were tall and awesome, and the rims of all four were full of eyes all around.
[and from another]
Ezekiel's Wheel within a Wheel Revealed
http://www.stellarhousepublishing.com/ezekielwheel.html
Ezekiel’s four beasts evidently symbolize the fixed points of the zodiac, the man equated with Aquarius, the ox or cherub with Taurus, the lion with Leo and the eagle with Scorpio. These points represent the signs immediately after the winter solstice, vernal equinox, summer solstice and autumnal equinox, respectively.

SOZT
This circular UFO display has been used around the world, though always to those who would understand its meaning in the Biblical context of Ezekiel. The Ezekiel wheel vision is often interpreted to be the Astrology chart, so that the 4 creatures are understood to be the four solstice or equinox points and thus the 12 lights in the recent UFO displays are understood to be the 12 months in the Gregorian calendar. What telepathic message is being relayed to those who see this display?

The wheel clearly relays a sense of time. Ezekiel is known as a prophet who predicted destruction and restoration. He scolded those who did not take the right path. This is certainly what the coming Pole Shift will bring. The Earth will be ravaged by earthquakes and high tides, such that coastal regions will be washed away, the inhabitants drown, and modern infrastructure ruined. No grid, no food distribution, no communication. Take heed to warnings, as the world of the future holds promise.
EOZT

[Willa Rawlings]

The following Hopi belief--- is a beautiful and very poignant read. Where the Red Star Kachina--The Purifier clearly is Nibiru---- and the Day of Purification--the Hour [Day] of Pole Shift.

Is the Blue Star Kachina the Dark Twin?  which will be "an alarm clock that tells us a new day, a new way of life, a new world that is coming."

Their prophecy speaks to when the Purifier comes it will see it first as a small Red Star which will come very close and sit in our heavens watching us. It speaks to the coming Madness and those who will go insane. Or those who will walk around like ghosts.  It speaks to the social unrest and much of it is clearly reflected in what's going on these days--- It speaks to needing to return to the old and simpler ways.

https://www.facebook.com/116756885014151/photos/a.118419131514593/1...

It was told to me that first the Blue Kachina would start to be seen at the dances, and would make his appearance known to the children in the plaza during the night dance. This event would tell us that the end times are very near. Then the Blue Star Kachina would physically appear in our heavens which would mean that we were in the end times.

"In the Final days we will look up in our heavens and... we will witness the return of the two brothers who helped create this world in the birthing time. Poganghoya is the guardian of our North Pole and his Brother Palongawhoya is the guardian of the South pole. In the final days the Blue Star Katchina will come to be with his nephews and they will return the Earth to its natural rotation which is counter clock wise.

"This fact is evidenced in many petraglyphs that speak of the Zodiac, and within the Mayan and Egyptian pyramids. The rotation of the Earth has been manipulated by not so benevolent Star beings . The twins will be seen in our North Western skies. They will come and visit to see who still remembered the original teachings flying in their Patuwvotas, or flying shields. They will bring many of their star family with them in the final days.

"The return of the Blue Star Katchina who is also known as Nan ga sohu will be the alarm clock that tells us of the new day and new way of life, a new world that is coming. This is where the changes will begin. They will start as fires that burn within us, and we will burn up with desires and conflict if we do not remember the original teachings, and return to the peaceful way of life.

" Not far behind the twins will come the Purifier The Red Katchina, who will bring the Day of Purification. On this day the Earth, her creatures and all life as we know it will change forever. There will be messengers that will precede this coming of the Purifier. They will leave messages to those on Earth who remember the old ways.

The messages will be found written in the living stone, through the sacred grains, and even the waters. ( Crop Circles have been found in ice) From the Purifier will issue forth a great Red Light. All things will change in their manner of being. Every living thing will be offered the opportunity to change from the largest to the smallest thing.

"Those who return to the ways given to us in the original teachings, and live a natural way of life will not be touched by the coming of the Purifier. They will survive and build the new world. Only in the ancient teachings will the ability to understand the messages be found.

"It is important to understand that these messages will be found upon every living thing, even within our bodies, even within a drop of our blood. All life forms will receive the messages from the twins.. those that fly, the plants, even the rabbit. The appearance of the twins begins a period of seven years will be our final opportunity to change our ways. Everything we experience is all a mater of choice.

"Many will appear to have lost their souls in these final days. So intense will the nature of the changes be that those who are weak in spiritual awareness will go insane, for we are nothing without spirit. They will disappear, for they are just hollow vessels for any thing to use. Life will be so bad in the cities that many will choose to leave this plane. Some in whole groups.

"Only those who return to the values of the old ways will be able to find peace of mind. For in the Earth we shall find relief from the madness that will be all around us. It will be a very hard time for women with children for they will be shunned, and many of the children in these times will be unnatural. Some being from the Stars some from past worlds, some will even be created by man in an unnatural manner and will be souless. Many of people in this time will be empty in Spirit they will have Sampacu. No life force in their eyes.

"As we get close to the time of arrival the Purifier there will be those who walk as ghosts through the cities, through canyons they will have constructed in their man made mountains. Those that walk through these places will be very heavy in their walk, it will appear almost painful as they take each step for they will be disconnected from their spirit and the Earth.

"After the arrival of the twins, they will begin to vanish before your eyes like so muck smoke. Others will have great deformities, both in the mind and upon their bodies. There will be those who would walk in the body that are not from this reality, for many of the gateways that once protected us will be opened, there will be much confusion. Confusion between sexes, and children and their elders.

"Life will get very perverted, and there will be little social order, in these times Many will ask for the mountains themselves to fall upon them just to end their misery. Still others will appear as if untouched by what is occurring. The ones who remember the original teachings and have reconnected their hearts and spirit. Those who remember who their mother and father is. The Pahana who have left to live in the Mountains and forest.

"When the Purifier comes we will see him first as a small Red Star which will come very close and sit in our heavens watching us. Watching us to see how well we have remembered the sacred teachings.

"This Purifier will show us many miraculous signs in our heavens In this way we will know Creator is not a dream. Even those who do not feel their connection to spirit will see the face of creator across the sky. Things unseen will be felt very strongly.

" Many things will begin to occur that will not make sense, for reality will be shifting back in and out of the dream state. There will be many doorways to the lower world that will open at this time. Things long forgotten will come back to remind us of our past creations. All living things will want to be present for this day when time ends, and we enter the forever cycle of the Fifth World.

"We will receive many warnings allowing us to change our ways from below the Earth as well as above. Then one morning in a moment. We will awaken to the Red Dawn. The sky will be the color of blood, many things will then begin to happen that right now we are nor sure of their exact nature. For much of reality will not be as it is now.

"There will be many strange beasts upon the Earth in those days, some from the past and some that we have never seen. . The nature of mankind will appear strange in these times we walk between worlds and we will house many spirits even within our bodies After a time we will again walk with our brothers from the Stars, and rebuild this Earth But not until the Purifier has left his mark upon the universe.

"No thing living will go untouched, here or in the heavens. The way through this time it is said is to be found in our hearts, and reuniting with our spiritual self. Getting simple and returning to living with and upon the Earth and in harmony with her creatures. Remembering that we are the caretakers, the fire keepers of the Spirit. Our relatives from the Stars are coming home to see how well we have faired in our journey.

 -Grandfather Dan -Hopi See More

[Nancy Lieder]

Accurate and profound! I am lecturing on End Times prophecies on 10/7 on the USAEBN show, which gets put up into a new YouTube on my channel. I will add all this as it encompasses so many aspects of these times. Thank you!!

Willa Rawlings said:

The following Hopi belief--- is a beautiful and very poignant read.

[Derrick Johnson]

Willa Rawlings said:

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Is the Blue Star Kachina the Dark Twin?  which will be "an alarm clock that tells us a new day, a new way of life, a new world that is coming."

Hi Willa Rawlings

Here is previous Zeta Talk that confirms the dark twin is the Blue Star Kachina

http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/03sp2011.htm 

Indeed, as we have reported that the Dark Twin has fallen behind the Earth, dropping outside of their shared orbit to evade the roiling particle flows, it will be seen increasingly in the night sky, and thus could be interpreted as a "star". When reflecting sunlight when it emerged from behind the Sun and caught up to the Earth in their shared orbit, it reflected only blue light with an occasional glint of yellow. Objects that appear black do so because they absorb light, reflecting little, and the Dark Twin is a big hunk of black rock.

We have predicted that the Dark Twin will be squeezed toward the Earth as the three planets in the cup - Venus, Earth, and the Dark Twin - are pressed together by the particle flow roiling in front of the approaching Planet X. During this time, and before the Dark Twin escapes the cup, it will be close enough that sunlight reflected from its surface will bounce toward the Earth and be seen on the night side of Earth - a blueish star! This drama has happened before, and been reported in Hindu religion, the god Kali, and in the Kolbrin literature. The Hopi prophecy also refers to this drama, which is likely to occur either within or close to the Last Weeks.