ZetaTalk Chat for January 28, 2017

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Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 70 [73] years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

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Permalink Reply by J Ph on January 21, 2017 at 8:04pm

Hi Nancy,

The Zetas stated that George Soros is dead.

A day before the inauguration, George Soros gave an interview to Bloomberg. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNJ5mK26mZ0

Is this then a double?

Permalink Reply by Nancy Lieder on January 21, 2017 at 8:13pm

Double. Took me some time to find the clues. He was not on camera for a few months, so time for some plastic surgery like creating bags under the eyes. Inject water, stretched skin, voile bags. And ears can be grown anywhere on the body, as a replacement for those Soros elf ears, stretching skin over a plastic mold as in the example below where an ear was grown on a man's forearm.

Joseph said:

The Zetas stated that George Soros is dead.

Permalink Reply by Nancy Lieder on January 22, 2017 at 5:17pm

I too am asking a Q this week.

What does this big CO burst indicate? New Madrid warming up?
[and from another]
https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3004
An utterly massive emission of Carbon Monoxide is emanating from the Pennsylvania portion of the Ramapo earthquake fault, which runs from eastern Pennsylvania into northern New Jersey. Nowhere else on the planet are the CO readings this high. Take a look at how a satellite model from the GEOS-5 Satellite shows the CO gas is literally bursting forth from the area of the Ramapo Fault line. The land in eastern Pennsylvania and into New Jersey in that area, is very old, very hard, rock. Earthquakes are not common in this region because the land is long settled. But this sudden and massive emission of CO gas from along the Ramapo Fault line is very noticeable and COULD indicate something is happening deep underground, causing the CO gas to come out of the Fault into the air.

SOZT
We have described the center of the bowing of the N American Continent as being at San Diego and tension thence traveling across the US to the East Coast. By early 2010 Pennsylvania had an inordinate number of sinkholes,
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/19ju2010.htm
in step with San Diego having an inordinate number of bursting water
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta538.htm
and gas mains. We have also described the break point
http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx070.htm
for the East Coast to be Pennsylvania, where above this point land will rise during the Pole Shift but below, be dragged down. The Ramapo Fault Line is a factor in this break point.

The Ramapo Fault Line parallels the New Madrid Fault Line, so would indeed be an indication of the amount of stress the New Madrid is experiencing at this time. The continental rip at the Chesapeake Bay
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/11ap2015.htm
is due to this area absorbing the bulk of the ripping action during the bow stress, as this is a thin crust region. The number of blackouts and electric train derailments along the East Coast, such as the Hoboken crash,
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue524.htm
in 2016, is an indication that the bow stress has increased.
EOZT

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/19ju2010.htm
This is likewise true for the large number of sinkholes in Pennsylvania, as the N American continent is being pulled down south of this point, but rising as the Seaway pulls apart north of this point. The bow in the N American continent is likewise pulling rock layers across each other, as the sinkhole in Tennessee shows. This point, as we explained, is directly in a line from San Diego across the continent, and includes the area of the Utah mining disaster a couple years ago.

Prior 2010 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx070.htm
The entire peninsula from central Pennsylvania north, will experience a bounce, but being on the edge of this drama, Pennsylvania will have its toes in water but its head above water.

Prior 2009: ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta538.htm
San Diego, as we have repeatedly mentioned, is at the center of a bow formed when the Aleutian Island and the tip of Mexico are pulled toward each other. This is what has been causing all the water main breaks in that region lately. The rock is under stress, which will not be relieved until the New Madrid adjusts.

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/11ap2015.htm
Why was Washington DC affected? The N American Continent is in a taut bow, the bow ends at the Aleutian Islands and the tip of Mexico pulling toward each other. The center of the bow is at San Diego. Follow the line across the continent and you arrive at Washington DC. Chesapeake Bay is an obvious rip point where tears have occurred in the past.

Permalink Reply by Ovidiu Pricopi on January 22, 2017 at 5:54pm

Hi , can Zeta give an inside of the announcement status, Elite scrambling posture is seen on many fronts: Soros double is used, show that they rely in a few top individuals to implement their ideas ! In Kissinger interview for World Economic Forum at Davos is saying how dependent they are now on the new president Trump to create a new world order, they acknowledge that the old concept of order is impossible to happen now! :” Trump must help create new international order”! Also he mention that the economic grip is slipping pointing to Brexit and also Europe is possible splitting in smaller economic Subgroups! He acknowledges that they rely on China and Russia also for the new concept of world order! What is announcement possibility also under Trump administration now that the Elite is cornered, Zeta mention that announcement will not come via Trump! Is Trump against the announcement even WHEN the Earth Changes will point to massive tectonic changes ? https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2017/jan/20/davos-2017-ph...

Permalink Reply by Nancy Lieder on January 22, 2017 at 8:03pm

No. Absolutely declined. YOUR CURIOSITY IS NOT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. I have been saying this steadily and will start to yell it at future requests. What do you think, that informing the enemy is the way to go? Just how it comes, in what order, by whom, in what timeframe, ALL this will happen with more certainty and security if YOU are not in the know!

Ovidiu Pricopi said:

can Zeta give an inside of the announcement status,

Permalink Reply by J A on January 23, 2017 at 1:38am

Trump is very polarizing and for many elicit a great feeling of hate. Is he being protected? Along with his family, who don't really come across as highly STO (the Trump sons hunting animals for fun).

Permalink Reply by Nancy Lieder on January 23, 2017 at 11:42am

Also absolutely declined. The Zetas said some time ago that they were NOT going to be used to reveal the spiritual orientation of every politician or such person, nor be asked if every UFO sighting was real or what it might mean, or be asked about every photo of a potential capture of Nibiru. I am being inundated with email asking for curiosity to be satisfied, for NO GOOD REASON other than curiosity. How many past lives has Melania had and what were her experiences. What are the next steps that Trump will take? Please, they have to know ahead of the actual steps which are pending, and likely to occur today! Just WAIT AND SEE. Trump is part of a very large and very large STO team that is NOT STUPID. His mission was to keep Bush/Clinton factions from control and he pulled that off very cleverly. He said whatever it took on the campaign trail to keep himself in the media and win. He exagerated, as we have already said.

Yes, he is obviously being protected. No need to ask! How many times would he have been killed by the evil Bush/Clinton group otherwise? Don't ask the obvious!

J A said:

Trump is very polarizing and for many elicit a great feeling of hate.

Permalink Reply by Willa Rawlings on January 23, 2017 at 8:57pm

In view of the recent revelation that certain members of the elite, around the world, are currently under house arrest, is there anything in the works for certain crime family members here in the states?

http://nypost.com/2017/01/23/the-clintons-are-hatching-a-plan-for-t...

Permalink Reply by Matt B on January 24, 2017 at 10:27am

Hi Willa.

There were some very interesting observations in the latest ZetaTalk Newsletter about members of the elite under house arrest.

ZetaTalk Newsletter as of January 19, 2017

http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/zetatalk-newsletter-as-of-...

That the Zetas and [Ben] Fulford are working off the same set of facts can be seen in the recent house arrest situations they describe. First, the Queen. On December 10, 2016 the Zetas stated there would be a crack down on European elites, such as royalty.

...

Next, Hillary Clinton. On December 10, 2016 the Zetas stated the Clinton and Bush crime families are in the process of being taken down, and investigations into the Clinton Foundation are still in process. On December 12, 2016 and again on December 19, 2016 Fulford described the Bush/Clinton crime families being under house arrest.

...

Benjamin Fulford Report
December 19, 2016
http://operationdisclosure.blogspot.com.au/2016/12/benjamin-fulford...
The sources also say the Clintons, the Bushes, Senator John McCain and many other cabal leaders are under house arrest and are only allowed out under carefully chaperoned circumstances pending their war crimes trials.

Willa Rawlings said:

In view of the recent revelation that certain members of the elite, around the world, are currently under house arrest, is there anything in the works for certain crime family members here in the states?

http://nypost.com/2017/01/23/the-clintons-are-hatching-a-plan-for-t...

Permalink Reply by Nancy Lieder on January 24, 2017 at 12:03pm

Accepted to explain, yet again, how the Rules of Engagement work. Aliens are not here to clean up mankind. This is a 3rd density world, a spiritual kindergarden, where self study occurs. What is happening with the Transformation Team is an exception.

Willa Rawlings said:

In view of the recent revelation that certain members of the elite, around the world, are currently under house arrest, is there anything in the works for certain crime family members here in the states?

[and from another]
http://nypost.com/2017/01/23/the-clintons-are-hatching-a-plan-for-t...

SOZT
There is confusion among humans reading our description of the Transformation Team, which includes both humans and aliens working as a team, and the broader world of human society on Earth. As we explained early in the ZetaTalk saga, there are NO RULES governing how humans interact with each other, beyond the rules that human society might impose. Humans can savage or jump in and rescue each other freely, and it is part of their spiritual learning curve to do so. The Earth is a self-study environment in this regard. The visitors, aliens from other worlds, are NOT ALLOWED
http://www.zetatalk.com/rules/r34.htm
to interfere in these situations.

Thus all interference must be approved by the Council of Worlds, without exception. When interference is deemed necessary, things, not people
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta120.htm
are manipulated. This means that the human soul can still take action on their decisions, can decide to savage or rescue another, though the action might not have the consequences anticipated. Thus benign space brothers do not willy-nilly jump in to rescue children from pedophiles or halt sex slavery operations, nor stop drug trafficking. Exceptions occur, to rescue or protect highly Service-to-Other humans, or in order to maintain a balanced spiritual school house.

How is it then that the Council of Worlds would go to war
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue429.htm
with the elite and their control of the media over the announcement admitting the presence of Nibiru and its pending passage? Such mass maneuvers have occurred in the past, for instance to quarantine the Annunaki
http://www.zetatalk.com/worlds/w71.htm
from Earth. By maintaining the cover-up over Nibiru, the elite are affecting the potential spiritual choices of billions of humans, and thus the Council stepped in. But the efforts by the Transformation Team are almost entirely done by humans, with only the ASSISTANCE of aliens. Thus it is things, not people, being affected.

Beyond the cover-up over Nibiru, there have been other Council approved actions to affect things, not people, in mankind’s world. One is to deactivate nukes, and to prevent nuclear accidents. This has been allowed because of the mass Call
http://www.zetatalk.com/call/c13.htm
given by many around the world, to prevent a nuclear war from destroying the globe. This was considered a Service-to-Other mass call, and honored by the Council. Thus a group intending to set off a dirty bomb might go through all the actions, but the desired effect would not result. Their spiritual choices have played out. Slavery, such as the FaceBook/Israeli dominance over Africa,
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue520.htm
and control by fear, are other such battles that have been assisted.
EOZT

Prior 1996 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/rules/r34.htm
Humans so often look to others beyond themselves for salvation that they can scarce imagine a situation where the Earth would not be rescued by what has been termed their benign space brothers if the chips were truly down. Even adults anticipate rescue. Bank failures see the steadying hand of the Fed, worthless stock the oversight of the SEC, reckless driving the flashing lights of a patrol car, and a call to 911 the swift arrival of numerous and varied rescue vehicles.

Prior 2004 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta120.htm
In a spiritual learning house, a schoolhouse for emerging souls, the prime directive is non-interference. In all these exceptions with the Rule of Non-Interference, manipulation is done to things, not the incarnated human or life form, and thus does not interfere with the setting the emerging young soul can control. The decisions by the entity, expressed into action by the incarnated human, are not interfered with, thus.